RE: Automatically configure ulimit -SOLVED

2002-03-12 Thread Richard Wilson

AFAIK
hard means that is the absolute max amount of (in my case) open files
soft means that the user will default to that amount.

So fo example my requirement was that the user account would have 8096 files
open, rather than setting the hard to 8096 and then requiring that the user
"ulimit -n 8096" from the default 1024, I put in the soft setting to 8096.
When I log on as a user and type ulimit -a I get the desired result.

Hope this helps 

Richard


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Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 2:56 AM
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On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 12:34:35PM -0800, Richard Wilson wrote:
> There is a way to configure this.
> see /ect/security/limits.conf
> 
> This is handled by a PAM during authentication.

Great, thanks.

Now can anyone explain the difference between "hard" and "soft"
limits?

Thanks,
Ben

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Re: Automatically configure ulimit -SOLVED

2002-03-12 Thread Ben Logan

On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 12:34:35PM -0800, Richard Wilson wrote:
> There is a way to configure this.
> see /ect/security/limits.conf
> 
> This is handled by a PAM during authentication.

Great, thanks.

Now can anyone explain the difference between "hard" and "soft"
limits?

Thanks,
Ben

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RE: Automatically configure ulimit -SOLVED

2002-03-11 Thread Richard Wilson

There is a way to configure this.
see /ect/security/limits.conf

This is handled by a PAM during authentication.




-Original Message-
From: Richard Wilson 
Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 1:57 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: Automatically configure ulimit


Ben:

I'm trying to increase the number of open files with "ulimit -n ", this
operation requires super user privilege. 
Here is what I've found out so far.
It seems that modifying either /etc/profile or /etc/bashrc will not work for
my purpose since this runs under the user's UID.
Another option would of been allowing a "su" for /bin/ulimit by modifying
/etc/sudoers, unfortunately ulimit is built in to /bin/bash so this is not a
possibility for me.

I did find one hack that mentioned that you had to replace init with a
different version.
see /usr/share/emacs/20.7/etc/ulimit.hack for details, this hack modifies
the size of the files not the number of files. So this hack will not work
for me.

I'm thinking that maybe recompiling the kernel or bash would also do the
trick. 
Another option is possibly modifying the settings via /proc file system, do
not know where to start on this one.
A third option is using inittab to launch a script that sets the desired
ulimit and then fires off migetty, or set this in ssh somehow;  all the user
sessions will be via ssh.
I may be way off base since I've only have less than 3 months experience
with Linux\Unix. Can somebody  on the  list tell me if I'm way off base
here?

TIA

Richard 


-Original Message-
From: Richard Wilson 
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 4:16 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: Automatically configure ulimit


Thank you Ben, we have tried that here, it seems that /etc/profile runs in
the context of the user, I've been told that only the super user can
increase default settings.

I will keep you posted on what I find out.

regards

Richard

-Original Message-
From: Ben Logan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 1:43 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: Re: Automatically configure ulimit


On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 11:31:35AM -0800, Richard Wilson wrote:
> I'm trying to configure a set of RH 7.2 machines to default to a specific
> number of files that can be opened. How would I configure this so the
> environment is set at boot time?

There is a 'ulimit' line in /etc/profile on my system (Redhat 7.1).
You could tweak that.  Of course, I guess that it only applies to
those running Bash as a shell.

I've wondered myself if there is a way to set those at a kernel level.

Regards,
Ben

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RE: Automatically configure ulimit

2002-03-08 Thread Richard Wilson

Ben:

I'm trying to increase the number of open files with "ulimit -n ", this
operation requires super user privilege. 
Here is what I've found out so far.
It seems that modifying either /etc/profile or /etc/bashrc will not work for
my purpose since this runs under the user's UID.
Another option would of been allowing a "su" for /bin/ulimit by modifying
/etc/sudoers, unfortunately ulimit is built in to /bin/bash so this is not a
possibility for me.

I did find one hack that mentioned that you had to replace init with a
different version.
see /usr/share/emacs/20.7/etc/ulimit.hack for details, this hack modifies
the size of the files not the number of files. So this hack will not work
for me.

I'm thinking that maybe recompiling the kernel or bash would also do the
trick. 
Another option is possibly modifying the settings via /proc file system, do
not know where to start on this one.
A third option is using inittab to launch a script that sets the desired
ulimit and then fires off migetty, or set this in ssh somehow;  all the user
sessions will be via ssh.
I may be way off base since I've only have less than 3 months experience
with Linux\Unix. Can somebody  on the  list tell me if I'm way off base
here?

TIA

Richard 


-Original Message-
From: Richard Wilson 
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 4:16 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: Automatically configure ulimit


Thank you Ben, we have tried that here, it seems that /etc/profile runs in
the context of the user, I've been told that only the super user can
increase default settings.

I will keep you posted on what I find out.

regards

Richard

-Original Message-
From: Ben Logan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 1:43 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: Re: Automatically configure ulimit


On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 11:31:35AM -0800, Richard Wilson wrote:
> I'm trying to configure a set of RH 7.2 machines to default to a specific
> number of files that can be opened. How would I configure this so the
> environment is set at boot time?

There is a 'ulimit' line in /etc/profile on my system (Redhat 7.1).
You could tweak that.  Of course, I guess that it only applies to
those running Bash as a shell.

I've wondered myself if there is a way to set those at a kernel level.

Regards,
Ben

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RE: Automatically configure ulimit

2002-03-06 Thread Richard Wilson

Thank you Ben, we have tried that here, it seems that /etc/profile runs in
the context of the user, I've been told that only the super user can
increase default settings.

I will keep you posted on what I find out.

regards

Richard

-Original Message-
From: Ben Logan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 1:43 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: Re: Automatically configure ulimit


On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 11:31:35AM -0800, Richard Wilson wrote:
> I'm trying to configure a set of RH 7.2 machines to default to a specific
> number of files that can be opened. How would I configure this so the
> environment is set at boot time?

There is a 'ulimit' line in /etc/profile on my system (Redhat 7.1).
You could tweak that.  Of course, I guess that it only applies to
those running Bash as a shell.

I've wondered myself if there is a way to set those at a kernel level.

Regards,
Ben

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Re: Automatically configure ulimit

2002-03-06 Thread Ben Logan

On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 11:31:35AM -0800, Richard Wilson wrote:
> I'm trying to configure a set of RH 7.2 machines to default to a specific
> number of files that can be opened. How would I configure this so the
> environment is set at boot time?

There is a 'ulimit' line in /etc/profile on my system (Redhat 7.1).
You could tweak that.  Of course, I guess that it only applies to
those running Bash as a shell.

I've wondered myself if there is a way to set those at a kernel level.

Regards,
Ben

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Automatically configure ulimit

2002-03-06 Thread Richard Wilson

I'm trying to configure a set of RH 7.2 machines to default to a specific
number of files that can be opened. How would I configure this so the
environment is set at boot time?



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