Subject: Re: OpenOffice/MS Office compatibility (was Re: easy installation)

2002-12-20 Thread Pramathesh Ambasta
On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 09:57:03AM -0600, Ed Wilts wrote:

It's not anywhere close to being compatible.  Many MS Office 
documents
can not be read or display incorrectly in OpenOffice.  This issue 
exists
Try it out at home first
with some typical documents that your office uses and see what 
happens.
I was very disappointed and ended up buying MS Office for my 
home
desktops.  OO couldn't even handle my trivial home files.

This is unbelievable. I have used OO to import all kinds of excel 
and word documents and export presentations in powerpoint format 
and it does a great job.
Pramathesh



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RE: OpenOffice/MS Office compatibility (was Re: easy installation)

2002-12-20 Thread Fred Paredes
I have used it myself at work and I was able open our documents without any issues. I 
used the Windows Version of Open Office.
Thanks
Fred
 
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Subject: Re: OpenOffice/MS Office compatibility (was Re: easy installation)



On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 11:18:16AM -0600, Dave Ihnat wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 09:57:03AM -0600, Ed Wilts wrote:
> > It's not anywhere close to being compatible.  Many MS Office documents
> > can not be read or display incorrectly in OpenOffice.  This issue exists
> > in both the Windows and Linux versions of OO.  Try it out at home first
> > with some typical documents that your office uses and see what happens.
> > I was very disappointed and ended up buying MS Office for my home
> > desktops.  OO couldn't even handle my trivial home files.
>
> How very strange.  I've not been using it in production, but I did run it
> through its paces on some of my nastier Word docs, and it had no problems.
>
> Is there something strange you're doing WRT normal Word usage--exotic
> plugins for manual generation, or somesuch?

Nope.  My documents were fairly basic with tables and graphics.  A few
different fonts and formatting features but no plug-ins nor macros.

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Re: OpenOffice/MS Office compatibility (was Re: easy installation)

2002-12-20 Thread Ed Wilts
On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 11:18:16AM -0600, Dave Ihnat wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 09:57:03AM -0600, Ed Wilts wrote:
> > It's not anywhere close to being compatible.  Many MS Office documents
> > can not be read or display incorrectly in OpenOffice.  This issue exists
> > in both the Windows and Linux versions of OO.  Try it out at home first
> > with some typical documents that your office uses and see what happens.
> > I was very disappointed and ended up buying MS Office for my home
> > desktops.  OO couldn't even handle my trivial home files.
> 
> How very strange.  I've not been using it in production, but I did run it
> through its paces on some of my nastier Word docs, and it had no problems.
> 
> Is there something strange you're doing WRT normal Word usage--exotic
> plugins for manual generation, or somesuch?

Nope.  My documents were fairly basic with tables and graphics.  A few
different fonts and formatting features but no plug-ins nor macros.

.../Ed
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Re: OpenOffice/MS Office compatibility (was Re: easy installation)

2002-12-20 Thread Manuel Camacho
Well, I have had problems with complex files all from Excel, Word and PP. 
A common problem are tables of content in Word docs. As we are thinking 
about the transition from MS to Linux, we are setting up our Office 
software to save all next year docs in "more compatible" formats. For 
instance, Word is set up to save by default in rtf format.

So, for 2004, we will be able to change to a Linux compatible office 
suite and reduce the document problems in about 75%.

Best regards,

-Manuel.

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From: Ed Wilts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 09:57:03 -0600
Subject: OpenOffice/MS Office compatibility (was Re: easy installation)

> On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 08:09:21AM -, Cannon, Andrew wrote:
> > On another point, how compatible with M$ Office is OpenOffice? I'm
> trying to
> > get our company away from M$ products (slowly does it...) and if the
> > OpenOffice suite is (nearly) fully compatible it might help persuade
> the
> > "people in power" that we don't need to pay out lots of dosh for
> rubbish,
> > when we can have a good, free, system.
> 
> It's not anywhere close to being compatible.  Many MS Office documents
> can not be read or display incorrectly in OpenOffice.  This issue
> exists
> in both the Windows and Linux versions of OO.  Try it out at home first
> with some typical documents that your office uses and see what happens.
> I was very disappointed and ended up buying MS Office for my home
> desktops.  OO couldn't even handle my trivial home files.
> 
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Re: OpenOffice/MS Office compatibility (was Re: easy installation)

2002-12-20 Thread Cliff Wells
On Fri, 2002-12-20 at 07:57, Ed Wilts wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 08:09:21AM -, Cannon, Andrew wrote:
> > On another point, how compatible with M$ Office is OpenOffice? I'm trying to
> > get our company away from M$ products (slowly does it...) and if the
> > OpenOffice suite is (nearly) fully compatible it might help persuade the
> > "people in power" that we don't need to pay out lots of dosh for rubbish,
> > when we can have a good, free, system.
> 
> It's not anywhere close to being compatible.  Many MS Office documents
> can not be read or display incorrectly in OpenOffice.  This issue exists
> in both the Windows and Linux versions of OO.  Try it out at home first
> with some typical documents that your office uses and see what happens.
> I was very disappointed and ended up buying MS Office for my home
> desktops.  OO couldn't even handle my trivial home files.

I'll toss in my $0.02 and say that I've had good results with
OpenOffice.  Compatibility seems fine (at least as far as basic files
go).  My only complaint is that it starts up so slow (even on my
Athlon XP 1700+ with 256MB DDR).  Almost 30s is far too long to open a
word processor.  I don't recall StarOffice 5.2 being that slow.


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Re: OpenOffice/MS Office compatibility (was Re: easy installation)

2002-12-20 Thread Dave Ihnat
On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 09:57:03AM -0600, Ed Wilts wrote:
> It's not anywhere close to being compatible.  Many MS Office documents
> can not be read or display incorrectly in OpenOffice.  This issue exists
> in both the Windows and Linux versions of OO.  Try it out at home first
> with some typical documents that your office uses and see what happens.
> I was very disappointed and ended up buying MS Office for my home
> desktops.  OO couldn't even handle my trivial home files.

How very strange.  I've not been using it in production, but I did run it
through its paces on some of my nastier Word docs, and it had no problems.

Is there something strange you're doing WRT normal Word usage--exotic
plugins for manual generation, or somesuch?
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RE: OpenOffice/MS Office compatibility (was Re: easy installation)

2002-12-20 Thread Ferguson, Michael
It works fine for me. My children uses it and they say it is just like
MSOffice.
I replaced MSWindows and MSOffice with RH8.0 and they have not missed a
beat. 
They are both very heavy Word and Powerpoint users

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Subject: Re: OpenOffice/MS Office compatibility (was Re: easy installation)


Ed Wilts wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 08:09:21AM -, Cannon, Andrew wrote:
> 
>>On another point, how compatible with M$ Office is OpenOffice? I'm 
>>trying to get our company away from M$ products (slowly does it...) 
>>and if the OpenOffice suite is (nearly) fully compatible it might help 
>>persuade the "people in power" that we don't need to pay out lots of 
>>dosh for rubbish, when we can have a good, free, system.
> 
> 
> It's not anywhere close to being compatible.  Many MS Office documents 
> can not be read or display incorrectly in OpenOffice.  This issue 
> exists in both the Windows and Linux versions of OO.  Try it out at 
> home first with some typical documents that your office uses and see 
> what happens. I was very disappointed and ended up buying MS Office 
> for my home desktops.  OO couldn't even handle my trivial home files.
> 

My experience has been different.  I use OO on Linux mostly and had a 
few thousand files that had been generated in Microsfot Word and Excel 
that OO had no trouble with at all.  The only thing that looks funny 
sometimes is OO displays a ? for a -, but it prints the - ok.  Whenever 
I save a file in OO I save it in Microsoft format and other people that 
need to open it in Word or Excel haven't had any problems either.

-Warren



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Re: OpenOffice/MS Office compatibility (was Re: easy installation)

2002-12-20 Thread Warren Johnson
Ed Wilts wrote:

On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 08:09:21AM -, Cannon, Andrew wrote:


On another point, how compatible with M$ Office is OpenOffice? I'm trying to
get our company away from M$ products (slowly does it...) and if the
OpenOffice suite is (nearly) fully compatible it might help persuade the
"people in power" that we don't need to pay out lots of dosh for rubbish,
when we can have a good, free, system.



It's not anywhere close to being compatible.  Many MS Office documents
can not be read or display incorrectly in OpenOffice.  This issue exists
in both the Windows and Linux versions of OO.  Try it out at home first
with some typical documents that your office uses and see what happens.
I was very disappointed and ended up buying MS Office for my home
desktops.  OO couldn't even handle my trivial home files.



My experience has been different.  I use OO on Linux mostly and had a 
few thousand files that had been generated in Microsfot Word and Excel 
that OO had no trouble with at all.  The only thing that looks funny 
sometimes is OO displays a ? for a -, but it prints the - ok.  Whenever 
I save a file in OO I save it in Microsoft format and other people that 
need to open it in Word or Excel haven't had any problems either.

-Warren



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Re: OpenOffice/MS Office compatibility (was Re: easy installation)

2002-12-20 Thread Johnathan Bailes
On Fri, 2002-12-20 at 10:57, Ed Wilts wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 08:09:21AM -, Cannon, Andrew wrote:
> > On another point, how compatible with M$ Office is OpenOffice? I'm trying to
> > get our company away from M$ products (slowly does it...) and if the
> > OpenOffice suite is (nearly) fully compatible it might help persuade the
> > "people in power" that we don't need to pay out lots of dosh for rubbish,
> > when we can have a good, free, system.
> 
> It's not anywhere close to being compatible.  Many MS Office documents
> can not be read or display incorrectly in OpenOffice.  This issue exists
> in both the Windows and Linux versions of OO.  Try it out at home first
> with some typical documents that your office uses and see what happens.
> I was very disappointed and ended up buying MS Office for my home
> desktops.  OO couldn't even handle my trivial home files.


That is very odd.  I have only experienced trouble with complicated form
documents and documents that use very odd large OLE embedding objects
and those issues have happened on only two types of documents that have
dealt with.  


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Re: OpenOffice/MS Office compatibility (was Re: easy installation)

2002-12-20 Thread z
Ed Wilts wrote:

On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 08:09:21AM -, Cannon, Andrew wrote:


On another point, how compatible with M$ Office is OpenOffice? I'm trying to
get our company away from M$ products (slowly does it...) and if the
OpenOffice suite is (nearly) fully compatible it might help persuade the
"people in power" that we don't need to pay out lots of dosh for rubbish,
when we can have a good, free, system.



It's not anywhere close to being compatible.  Many MS Office documents
can not be read or display incorrectly in OpenOffice.  This issue exists
in both the Windows and Linux versions of OO.  Try it out at home first
with some typical documents that your office uses and see what happens.
I was very disappointed and ended up buying MS Office for my home
desktops.  OO couldn't even handle my trivial home files.



I'd like to toss my experience into the pile.

In our business environment, i haven't run into many Word or Excel 
documents that OpenOffice.org couldn't render correctly. The only one i 
can recall was an .xls a few megs large. I haven't had any problems 
creating content in OpenOffice.org and having the MS users read it.

I use OO.o on Win and Linux, at home and at work.

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OpenOffice/MS Office compatibility (was Re: easy installation)

2002-12-20 Thread Ed Wilts
On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 08:09:21AM -, Cannon, Andrew wrote:
> On another point, how compatible with M$ Office is OpenOffice? I'm trying to
> get our company away from M$ products (slowly does it...) and if the
> OpenOffice suite is (nearly) fully compatible it might help persuade the
> "people in power" that we don't need to pay out lots of dosh for rubbish,
> when we can have a good, free, system.

It's not anywhere close to being compatible.  Many MS Office documents
can not be read or display incorrectly in OpenOffice.  This issue exists
in both the Windows and Linux versions of OO.  Try it out at home first
with some typical documents that your office uses and see what happens.
I was very disappointed and ended up buying MS Office for my home
desktops.  OO couldn't even handle my trivial home files.

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