Re: FW: Linux Bigot.

1998-06-17 Thread Anthony E. Greene

At 09:06 6/17/98 +1000, Bradley, Greg wrote:
>The problem is still, that I must know that Linux exists and that I want
>it, before I can subscribe to a journal to find somewhere that I can get
>it from.
>WIN95 screams at me from every newspaper advertisment and editorial.
>When was the last time you saw an ad in a non-enthusiast publication
>that advertised availability of Linux?

Reviews in non-Windows specific computer magazines (like Byte) are raising
the visibility of Linux. Vendor and/or non-profit web sites are usually
listed at the end of the article. Non-computing related publications don't
think anything else exists.

Granted, it's not like the frenzy over Win95, but exposure is increasing.

 Tony 


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RE: FW: Linux Bigot.

1998-06-16 Thread Paul Pettit

> From: Michael Jinks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 1998 6:24 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: FW: Linux Bigot.
>
>
> Bradley, Greg wrote:
>
> > When was the last time you saw an ad in a non-enthusiast publication
> > that advertised availability of Linux?
>
> . . . or a non-tech, non-Linux Web site that advertised the
> fact that it runs
> on a Linux box (as opposed to, say, M$*** IIS or the countless
> 'best-if-viewed-with' tags)?
>

Well your free to visit our site anytime. Just look in the left side frame,
I think you will be happy. And we are a "non-tech", "non-Linux", totally
commercial site.

By the way we are not some little start up company, CCB has been around for
7+ years (though we are just getting out on the Internet), and the bulk of
our business is selling Microsoft (!), Lotus, and Adobe though we sell just
about any hardware or software.

No one has asked us for Linux but if they did we would sell it (I would
hope), though probably not at the rate of CheapBytes.

Paul Pettit  \  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCB, Inc. \ CTO  \ 800-342-4222x114 fax:800-440-5036
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The #1 location for non-profit, academic, and religious computer
supplies.

"And down under all those piles of stuff, the secret was written: We
build our computers the way we build our cities -- over time, without a
plan, on top of ruins."
   -- Ellen Ullman, Software Engineer / Author, on Windows et.
all.

http://www.salon21st.com/21st/feature/1998/05/cov_12feature.html


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Re: FW: Linux Bigot.

1998-06-16 Thread Kit Cosper

> The problem is still, that I must know that Linux exists and that I want
> it, before I can subscribe to a journal to find somewhere that I can get
> it from.
> WIN95 screams at me from every newspaper advertisment and editorial.
> When was the last time you saw an ad in a non-enthusiast publication
> that advertised availability of Linux?
> 
I should say here that there are plans in the works to bring
Linux advertising to some publications that aren't Linux/Unix-centric.
It has taken some time and effort (and still has some time before coming
to fruition) but it will happen RSN.

--Kit




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Re: FW: Linux Bigot.

1998-06-16 Thread Michael Jinks

Bradley, Greg wrote:

> When was the last time you saw an ad in a non-enthusiast publication
> that advertised availability of Linux?

. . . or a non-tech, non-Linux Web site that advertised the fact that it runs
on on a Linux box (as opposed to, say, M$*** IIS or the countless
'best-if-viewed-with' tags)?

I agree; the only time I see a Linux vendor in the mainstream media is when
Caldera is suing M$ again.  (There it is again: Linux nuts are all a bunch of
petulent, paranoid freaks out to get Bill Gates.)  RedHat does a lot of
publicity stuff, but it seems to all be concentrated around trade shows and
the already-converted.

National exposure is expensive.  But think what would happen if (for example)
Compaq decided to include Linux as an option for their servers and/or high-end
PC's.  One supposes that they would have to advertise that choice as a
possible advantage for choosing Compaq products over others.  I can see it in
a newspaper ad right now: "The Compaq DeskPro-80-bajillion, now available with
WindowsNT -or- CPQ-Linux pre-installed. . . "


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Re: FW: Linux Bigot.

1998-06-16 Thread Zoki

On Tue, 16 Jun 1998, Bradley, Greg wrote:

->>While I can see that this may be the case in Australia,
->>all folks in the US have to do is pick up the phone and dial a
->toll-free
->>number to order a preinstalled Linux system.
->
->Actually, I read the Nader letter to IBM, he was unable to purchase a
->computer from anyone that he tried, and he provided a long list, sans
->windows let alone with another operating system installed. Of course he
->was talking 'NAME' brands, non the less, it appears that the options for
->pre-installed Linux are few.


*** I would be interested to read that letter. Where did you see it and
does Nader have a site?

Zoki.

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