Re: glibc 2.3 causing compile problems?

2002-11-29 Thread Michael A. Peters
It has been standard practice with Red Hat as long as I have been using
linux (MKLinux DR3 was my first distro - and that was Red Hat 5.1 except
with the Mach 3 mikrokernel and ppc binaries) to create a package
containing just the stuff the user needs to use the software (binary,
config files, documentation) in one package - and to put the headers and
stuff in a second package noted devel.

This allows people who don't want to do development on their system to
install far less number of packages and thus save space.

A lot of people have no intention of compiling anything on their system,
and it is common practice on web servers to not install a compiler so
that a cracker can't compile any code on the machine should he get on.

in these cases, where for whatever reason the user does not want to do
any software compiling, the headers for things like bzip2 etc. really
*don't* need to be installed.

I agree with the Red Hat model of seperating out the headers.
Back when I did some web dev on a little IBM Thinkpad with a small hard
drive, I didn't *want* the extra space taken that installing headers
would take.

On Thu, 2002-11-28 at 16:15, Rikard Bostrom wrote:
 Hi,
 
 The reason the program didn't compile had something to do with
 bzip2. If I installed the rpm bzip2-development it worked like
 a charm... same thing if I downloaded the bzip2 source code
 and compiled that. I think it's stupid that the bzip2-development
 package wasn't installed in the first place, as I selected all the
 development packages in the install. But bzip2 isn't even listed
 there, so I had to install it manually.
 
 I really don't like RedHat's package tool in 8.0, is there an other tool
 out there I can use?
 
 /dahonk
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Re: glibc 2.3 causing compile problems?

2002-11-28 Thread Michael Schwendt
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On Thu, 28 Nov 2002 00:31:40 +0100, Rikard Bostrom wrote:

 I'm running RedHat 8.0. I've installed all the development packages
 there is to be installed, but I still get errors and make stops when I
 try to compile certain
 programs. I used to run Slackware 8.1, and all programs compiled fine
 under it.
 Does this has something to do with RedHat 8.0 shipping a buggy version
 of glibc?

Or buggy source code. ;)

 Is there anyway do downgrade to a older, more stable version?

Can you give any particular examples of what makes you believe the
shipped version would be buggy? Because if you were right, you
should submit a bug report at https://bugzilla.redhat.com

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Re: glibc 2.3 causing compile problems?

2002-11-28 Thread jesse jacobs

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 On Thu, 28 Nov 2002 00:31:40 +0100, Rikard Bostrom wrote:

 I'm running RedHat 8.0. I've installed all the development packages
 there is to be installed, but I still get errors and make stops when I
 try to compile certain
 programs. I used to run Slackware 8.1, and all programs compiled fine
 under it.
 Does this has something to do with RedHat 8.0 shipping a buggy version
 of glibc?

 Or buggy source code. ;)

 Is there anyway do downgrade to a older, more stable version?

 Can you give any particular examples of what makes you believe the
 shipped version would be buggy? Because if you were right, you
 should submit a bug report at https://bugzilla.redhat.com

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I was having the same problems until I realived that 8.0 builds with gcc
3.2 only.
Now I update the cvs trees and apply my patches for gcc 3.2.
Redhat does have a compatibility rpm for gcc 2.96 (err something like that)
ie. binaries that were compiled with gcc 2.X are able to run on 8.0 but
the building compiles for 3.2.
The long and short, re-work your tree for 3.2 or use another build box (/w
2.9X).

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Re: glibc 2.3 causing compile problems?

2002-11-28 Thread Rikard Bostrom
Hi,

My problems are now addressed to the source code of the
software I tried to compile, so I guess it's not really glibc's
fault. But I'll keep my eyes open! :-)

Thanks for all your answers.

/dahonk



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Re: glibc 2.3 causing compile problems?

2002-11-28 Thread Rikard Bostrom
Hi,

The reason the program didn't compile had something to do with
bzip2. If I installed the rpm bzip2-development it worked like
a charm... same thing if I downloaded the bzip2 source code
and compiled that. I think it's stupid that the bzip2-development
package wasn't installed in the first place, as I selected all the
development packages in the install. But bzip2 isn't even listed
there, so I had to install it manually.

I really don't like RedHat's package tool in 8.0, is there an other tool
out there I can use?

/dahonk



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Re: glibc 2.3 causing compile problems?

2002-11-27 Thread Michael A. Peters
On Wed, 2002-11-27 at 15:31, Rikard Bostrom wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm running RedHat 8.0. I've installed all the development packages there is
 to be installed, but I still get errors and make stops when I try to compile
 certain
 programs. I used to run Slackware 8.1, and all programs compiled fine under
 it.
 Does this has something to do with RedHat 8.0 shipping a buggy version of
 glibc?
 
 Is there anyway do downgrade to a older, more stable version?
 
 /dahonk

I don't know if this will solve your problem - but where I use to work,
we would do a Red Hat 6.2 install and then chroot to it when there was
something we needed to compile that Red Hat 7.0's compiler choked on.

The obvious disadvantage to this was that some things needed older
versions of libraries when we brought the binary into the RH 7
environment - for those cases, we had a machine that was RH7 but had the
older gcc on it in /usr/local - and we would specify that gcc.

Perhaps if the problem is Red Hat's glibc (check with the code
maintainer - he may know the problem, its possible you just need the
makefile updated) you could build an older glibc and install it in
/usr/local and specify those libraries when compiling this software?

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