Re: [RHL] Re: [RHL] Re: [RHL] Re: ;) This silly [RHL] nonsense.

2000-08-05 Thread Leonard den Ottolander

Hi Vidiot!

 Oh well.  It was nice while it lasted.

 I agree on that ;-) .

CU all O,

Leonard.

 By the way, how do I unsubscribe? :)



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Re: This silly [RHL] nonsense.

2000-08-04 Thread Nitebirdz

On Thu, 3 Aug 2000, Kambiz Aghaiepour wrote:

 
 On a lighter note, I'm personally glad to have the list under Mailman.  Just a
 few more lists to go and I decomission the old box!!!
 

Just out of technical curiosity: what were the reasons that make you
decide to switch to Mailman?

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Re: This silly [RHL] nonsense.

2000-08-04 Thread John Aldrich

On Thu, 03 Aug 2000, you wrote:
 
 I agree, totally.  When you subscribe to many lists and get 150 emails a
 day, it's very helpful to to have the prefix to quickly goto certain list
 messages.
 
HmmONLY 150 messages per day? Heh. I get at LEAST two or three
times that many!
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This silly [RHL] nonsense.

2000-08-03 Thread Jason Costomiris

Can we lose the [RHL] prefix?  It's silly, clutters up the list of
messages, and generally makes it harder to read.

People who think they HAVE to filter on the subject heading are wrong.
Here's some procmail.

:0:
* ^X-Loop.*[EMAIL PROTECTED]
$HOME/mail/redhat-list

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Re: This silly [RHL] nonsense.

2000-08-03 Thread Adam Goucher

On Thu, 3 Aug 2000, Jason Costomiris wrote:

 Can we lose the [RHL] prefix?  It's silly, clutters up the list of
 messages, and generally makes it harder to read.

Isnt there a way, also through procmail, to rewrite subject lines to nuke
annoying list prefixes? Seems to me I had a link to do that (but hadnt
actually tried to implement it yet). Though I imagine it was somewhere in
http://www.procmail.org/jari/pm-tips.html -- not sure exactly which
section though. (Would look it up exactly, but this whole work thing seems
to get in the way everytime I try...)

-adam

 People who think they HAVE to filter on the subject heading are wrong.
 Here's some procmail.
 
 :0:
 * ^X-Loop.*[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 $HOME/mail/redhat-list
 
 



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Re: This silly [RHL] nonsense.

2000-08-03 Thread Vidiot

Can we lose the [RHL] prefix?  It's silly, clutters up the list of
messages, and generally makes it harder to read.
Jason Costomiris|  Technologist, geek, human.

NO DO NOT LOSE THE PREFIX

I am a subscriber of many lists and the prefix helps me determine from
which mail list the message comes from.

I am very happy to see that it was added to this list.

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Re: This silly [RHL] nonsense.

2000-08-03 Thread Charles Galpin

use Jason's procmail recipe as a start, and put your *own* [RHL] on the
subjects.

jeesh. This is not a complicated topic. Why can't each person handle their
own mail the way they please and not enforce it on the rest of us?

On Thu, 3 Aug 2000, Vidiot wrote:

 Can we lose the [RHL] prefix?  It's silly, clutters up the list of
 messages, and generally makes it harder to read.
 Jason Costomiris|  Technologist, geek, human.
 
 NO DO NOT LOSE THE PREFIX
 
 I am a subscriber of many lists and the prefix helps me determine from
 which mail list the message comes from.
 
 I am very happy to see that it was added to this list.



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[RHL] Re: [RHL] Re: [RHL] Re: ;) This silly [RHL] nonsense.

2000-08-03 Thread Leonard den Ottolander

Hi,

 Can we lose the [RHL] prefix?  It's silly, clutters up the list of
 messages, and generally makes it harder to read.

 I guess they saw it coming and dropped the thing already.

Bye,

Leonard.

 P.S. Vidiot, you can filter on sender/forwarder.



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Re: [RHL] Re: [RHL] Re: [RHL] Re: ;) This silly [RHL] nonsense.

2000-08-03 Thread Vidiot

 P.S. Vidiot, you can filter on sender/forwarder.

I don't filter.  The last thing I need is to wade through separate
mail boxes.

Oh well.  It was nice while it lasted.

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Re: This silly [RHL] nonsense.

2000-08-03 Thread Kambiz Aghaiepour

It's really six of one or half-dozen of another.  Either the folks that want
it can procmail it in (why not just procmail to a different folder???)  or
those that don't want it can procmail it out.  I had added "[RHL] " cuz I
thought six extra letters on the subject line would not bother anyone.  Boy
was I wrong!  I should have known better and just left the prefix off (as it
was when the list was under smartlist).

So bottom line, regardless of the fact that I personally preferred the prefix,
I took it off and let's not start a war over it!  End of story. BTW, for those
that care, there is also the "X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED]" header that
gets added by default by Mailman, as well as an "X-Loop:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]" which we added to each message (not via Mailman
though).

On a lighter note, I'm personally glad to have the list under Mailman.  Just a
few more lists to go and I decomission the old box!!!

Kambiz

Charles Galpin wrote:
 
 use Jason's procmail recipe as a start, and put your *own* [RHL] on the
 subjects.
 
 jeesh. This is not a complicated topic. Why can't each person handle their
 own mail the way they please and not enforce it on the rest of us?

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Re: This silly [RHL] nonsense.

2000-08-03 Thread Bret Hughes

Kambiz Aghaiepour wrote:
 
 On a lighter note, I'm personally glad to have the list under Mailman.  Just a
 few more lists to go and I decomission the old box!!!
 

Out of Curiousity, how big of a box runs the lists?

Bret



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Re: This silly [RHL] nonsense.

2000-08-03 Thread Peter Kiem

Jason Costomiris [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

 Can we lose the [RHL] prefix?  It's silly, clutters up the list of
 messages, and generally makes it harder to read.
 
 People who think they HAVE to filter on the subject heading are wrong.
 Here's some procmail.

Well I for one prefer to have this on the subject line for when I am reading 
my email via the TWIG web interface.  Good on em I say!!!

I'd rather not write procmail rules as well...

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Re: This silly [RHL] nonsense.

2000-08-03 Thread Romain Kang

Since I use procmail to automatically file list mail, I don't need the
prefixes, either.  Here's what I use to get rid of them:

In .procmailrc
:0:redhat-digest.lock
* ^TO.*redhat-list@
* ^Subject: Redhat-list digest, Vol
|sed -f .rhl.sed  redhat-digest

And .rhl.sed, which resides in the same directory as my auto-filed mail,
has
1d
/^Subject: *\[RHL] */s//Subject: /
/^Subject: *\([Rr][Ee]\): \[RHL] */s//Subject: \1: /

The 1d takes off the "From " line, which makes it possible for for
nn to recognize the file as a digest and do some rudimentary
sort on the messages inside.

Romain

You write:
| Isnt there a way, also through procmail, to rewrite subject lines to nuke
| annoying list prefixes? Seems to me I had a link to do that (but hadnt
| actually tried to implement it yet). Though I imagine it was somewhere in
| http://www.procmail.org/jari/pm-tips.html -- not sure exactly which
| section though. (Would look it up exactly, but this whole work thing seems
| to get in the way everytime I try...)



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Re: This silly [RHL] nonsense.

2000-08-03 Thread Glen Lee Edwards

I prefer the prefix also.  I receive between 3000 and 4000 letters a week.
When someone I don't know posts a response directly to me about a question
I posted to the list it helps to see the [RHL] in the subject line so I
know it's not a spam letter.  A procmail filter won't fix this unless the
reply is sent to the list as well.

Glen



On Thu, 3 Aug 2000, Peter Kiem wrote:

Jason Costomiris [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

 Can we lose the [RHL] prefix?  It's silly, clutters up the list of
 messages, and generally makes it harder to read.
 
 People who think they HAVE to filter on the subject heading are wrong.
 Here's some procmail.

Well I for one prefer to have this on the subject line for when I am reading 
my email via the TWIG web interface.  Good on em I say!!!

I'd rather not write procmail rules as well...





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Re: This silly [RHL] nonsense.

2000-08-03 Thread Martin Brown

On Thu, 3 Aug 2000, Vidiot wrote:

 Can we lose the [RHL] prefix?  It's silly, clutters up the list of
 messages, and generally makes it harder to read.
 Jason Costomiris|  Technologist, geek, human.
 
 NO DO NOT LOSE THE PREFIX
 
 I am a subscriber of many lists and the prefix helps me determine from
 which mail list the message comes from.
 
 I am very happy to see that it was added to this list.
 
 MB
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I agree, totally.  When you subscribe to many lists and get 150 emails a
day, it's very helpful to to have the prefix to quickly goto certain list
messages.

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Re: [RHL] Re: [RHL] Re: [RHL] Re: ;) This silly [RHL] nonsense.

2000-08-03 Thread Bob Taylor

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Vidiot writes:
  P.S. Vidiot, you can filter on sender/forwarder.
 
 I don't filter.  The last thing I need is to wade through separate
 mail boxes.

You must lead a *very* cluttered life. However do you find anything?

Just a thought. :-)

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Re: This silly [RHL] nonsense.

2000-08-03 Thread Danny

You can find out where your email comes from if you know how to apply your
email filters properly.

You can use procmail or some filter program in Kmail whatever.

At 03:02 PM 8/3/00 -0500, Vidiot wrote:
Can we lose the [RHL] prefix?  It's silly, clutters up the list of
messages, and generally makes it harder to read.
Jason Costomiris|  Technologist, geek, human.

NO DO NOT LOSE THE PREFIX

I am a subscriber of many lists and the prefix helps me determine from
which mail list the message comes from.

I am very happy to see that it was added to this list.

MB
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Re: This silly [RHL] nonsense.

2000-08-03 Thread Steve Frampton

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On Thu, 3 Aug 2000, Jason Costomiris wrote:

 Can we lose the [RHL] prefix?  It's silly, clutters up the list of
 messages, and generally makes it harder to read.

Harder to read?

 People who think they HAVE to filter on the subject heading are wrong.
 Here's some procmail.

You're assuming everyone uses procmail.  You're assuming everyone knows
how to *use* procmail.  You're also assuming everyone uses a system
capable of supporting procmail.

(Personally, I am an unabashed procmail fan, but ...)

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Re: This silly [RHL] nonsense.

2000-08-03 Thread Anthony E . Greene

On 03 Aug 2000 22:02 Vidiot wrote:
Can we lose the [RHL] prefix?  It's silly, clutters up the list of
messages, and generally makes it harder to read.
Jason Costomiris|  Technologist, geek, human.

NO DO NOT LOSE THE PREFIX

I am a subscriber of many lists and the prefix helps me determine from
which mail list the message comes from.

I am very happy to see that it was added to this list.

If you can use procmail, you should try this:

:0 f:
* ^X-Loop:.*[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| sed -e "s/^Subject: /Subject: [RHL]"

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Re: This silly [RHL] nonsense.

2000-08-03 Thread Anthony E . Greene

On 04 Aug 2000 03:19 Steve Frampton wrote:
On Thu, 3 Aug 2000, Jason Costomiris wrote:
 People who think they HAVE to filter on the subject heading are wrong.
 Here's some procmail.

You're assuming everyone uses procmail.  You're assuming everyone knows
how to *use* procmail.  You're also assuming everyone uses a system
capable of supporting procmail.

Netscape, Eudora, and OE5 can each filter on X-Loop. That should cover most
non-Linux users.

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