[reiserfs-list] Reiserfs and recovering from the format action...

2002-10-10 Thread Fabrizio Morbini

Hi, if I format a reiserfs partition there are methods for recover it?

Fabrizio.




Re: [reiserfs-list] Catastrophe with mailboxes on ReiserFS

2002-10-10 Thread Newsmail

What are those write barrier patches? and where can I find them? I was also 
hurted by several 'cross linked' files, described in here. is there a way 
to deactivate write caching for just one filesystem?
regards, greg

ps: please somebody let me know where I can find documentation about those 
chris mason patches, or at least what is dara=ordered or data=journal 
options. everybody talks about it, nobody explains. or did I miss something?

I'd like to see these patches merged. I hurt myself several times with
reiserfs, when the computer locked up during heavy file system activity,
with NUL blocks in files, files mixed up and the like. I've never seen
this on any data=ordered or data=journal file system, regardless of ext3
or reiserfs.

Of course, write caches must be turned of or write barrier patches be
applied to be safe in case of a power blackout.

--
Matthias Andree





Re: [reiserfs-list] Catastrophe with mailboxes on ReiserFS

2002-10-10 Thread Matthias Andree

On Thu, 10 Oct 2002, Newsmail wrote:

 What are those write barrier patches? and where can I find them? I was also 

I don't know. Some vendor kernels have them (SuSE), but I'm not sure
where they are available ATM.

 hurted by several 'cross linked' files, described in here. is there a way 
 to deactivate write caching for just one filesystem?

No. You can only disable it per drive.

 ps: please somebody let me know where I can find documentation about those 
 chris mason patches, or at least what is dara=ordered or data=journal 
 options. everybody talks about it, nobody explains. or did I miss something?

You can safely consult ext3 documentation on these options, reiserfs
should behave the same in respect to these options.

-- 
Matthias Andree



Re: [reiserfs-list] Reiserfs and recovering from the format action...

2002-10-10 Thread Oleg Drokin

Hello!

On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 09:01:40AM +0200, Fabrizio Morbini wrote:
 Hi, if I format a reiserfs partition there are methods for recover it?

http://namesys.com/support.html

Bye,
Oleg



Re: [reiserfs-list] Reiserfs with Samba vs NetApp Filer

2002-10-10 Thread Philippe Gramoullé


Hi,

On Thu, 10 Oct 2002 09:48:34 +0800
darren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  |  Hi all,
  |  
  |  I was just wondering if I should spend $$ (my company's of cos) on a
  |  NetApp filer...
  |  
  |  OR
  |  
  |  I just get one of the Dell 3650 doing nothing in the corner with RAID5
  |  and run Samba as a fileserver?
  |  
  |  Anyone got any benchmarks to compare the two?
  |  
  |  Is NetApp as good as its advertised?

We switched from NetApp to DELL ( PowerVault 210S ) mainly because of the $$ :o)

NetApp are really good but really expensive as well.So it depend how much value
you give to your data.

Netapp as well have tons of features that  linux boxes +PV210S can't do :Clustering
volume copy, out out the box snapshots,etc..

  |  
  |  Any comments on this setup is welcomed

Now i think DELL realease their 220S with 14 disks in a shelf so that would have the 
bang
for your bucks. On the otherside, NetApp comes with a very nice , proprietary , OS 
that's quite
simple to use.

So best price/performance = DELL
If you have unvaluable data = NetApp (+ backup :o)

  |  
  |  Regards
  |  Darren
  |  


Philippe.



Re: [reiserfs-list] Reiserfs with Samba vs NetApp Filer

2002-10-10 Thread Hans Reiser

Philippe Gramoullé wrote:

Hi,

On Thu, 10 Oct 2002 09:48:34 +0800
darren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  |  Hi all,
  |  
  |  I was just wondering if I should spend $$ (my company's of cos) on a
  |  NetApp filer...
  |  
  |  OR
  |  
  |  I just get one of the Dell 3650 doing nothing in the corner with RAID5
  |  and run Samba as a fileserver?
  |  
  |  Anyone got any benchmarks to compare the two?
  |  
  |  Is NetApp as good as its advertised?

We switched from NetApp to DELL ( PowerVault 210S ) mainly because of the $$ :o)

NetApp are really good but really expensive as well.So it depend how much value
you give to your data.

I would say that WAFL is an absolutely superb filesystem for the purpose 
of RAID NFS fileserving.  Reiser4 may give it some serious competition 
after some time has passed and we have time for such things as carefully 
benchmarking NFS, etc., but WAFL is a great filesystem for NFS RAID as 
it is right now.  That said, mp3.com saved $22 million dollars by using 
Linux+reiserfs instead of Netapps and Veritas.  They may be good, but 
reiser3 is cheaper.  A lot cheaper.  Do the math, and you'll buy Linux 
instead I think.;-)

Nobody has done reiser3 vs. WAFL benchmarks.


Netapp as well have tons of features that  linux boxes +PV210S can't do :Clustering
volume copy, out out the box snapshots,etc..

Linux has snapshots if you use lvm, but it is true that  Netapp makes a 
good product.


  |  
  |  Any comments on this setup is welcomed

Now i think DELL realease their 220S with 14 disks in a shelf so that would have the 
bang
for your bucks. On the otherside, NetApp comes with a very nice , proprietary , OS 
that's quite
simple to use.

So best price/performance = DELL
If you have unvaluable data = NetApp (+ backup :o)

  |  
  |  Regards
  |  Darren
  |  


Philippe.


  







Re: [reiserfs-list] Reiserfs with Samba vs NetApp Filer

2002-10-10 Thread Philippe Gramoullé

Hi,

Yes, that's what i meant by not *out of the box* snapshots.

We quite never played with LVM as it adds another software layer and i didn't feel
it was mature enough at the time we put everything in production but given the benefits
we might want to give it a try.

BTW, Hans, what you would recommand : LVM or EVMS ?

Thanks,

Philippe


On Thu, 10 Oct 2002 21:31:29 +0400
Hans Reiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  |  Netapp as well have tons of features that  linux boxes +PV210S can't do 
:Clustering
  |   volume copy, out out the box snapshots,etc..
  |   
  |   Linux has snapshots if you use lvm, but it is true that  Netapp makes a 
  |   good product.



Re: [reiserfs-list] Reiserfs with Samba vs NetApp Filer

2002-10-10 Thread Hans Reiser

Philippe Gramoullé wrote:

Hi,

Yes, that's what i meant by not *out of the box* snapshots.

We quite never played with LVM as it adds another software layer and i didn't feel
it was mature enough at the time we put everything in production but given the 
benefits
we might want to give it a try.

BTW, Hans, what you would recommand : LVM or EVMS ?

Thanks,

Philippe


On Thu, 10 Oct 2002 21:31:29 +0400
Hans Reiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  |  Netapp as well have tons of features that  linux boxes +PV210S can't do 
:Clustering
  |   volume copy, out out the box snapshots,etc..
  |   
  |   Linux has snapshots if you use lvm, but it is true that  Netapp makes a 
  |   good product.


  

I lack the expertise to advise on this.  There has been a lot of 
controversy on this.  Keep an eye out for lvm2 to come out.

Hans





Re: [reiserfs-list] Reiserfs with Samba vs NetApp Filer

2002-10-10 Thread Dieter Nützel

Am Donnerstag, 10. Oktober 2002 20:02 schrieb Hans Reiser:
 Philippe Gramoullé wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Yes, that's what i meant by not *out of the box* snapshots.
 
 We quite never played with LVM as it adds another software layer and i
  didn't feel it was mature enough at the time we put everything in
  production but given the benefits we might want to give it a try.
 
 BTW, Hans, what you would recommand : LVM or EVMS ?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Philippe
 
 
 On Thu, 10 Oct 2002 21:31:29 +0400
 
 Hans Reiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   |  Netapp as well have tons of features that  linux boxes +PV210S can't
   |   do :Clustering
   |  
   |   volume copy, out out the box snapshots,etc..
   |
   |   Linux has snapshots if you use lvm, but it is true that  Netapp
   | makes a good product.

 I lack the expertise to advise on this.  There has been a lot of
 controversy on this.  Keep an eye out for lvm2 to come out.

Read about it on LKML.
LVM is dropped with 2.5.41+.
LVM2 comes under the hood of EMVS.

-Dieter



Re: [reiserfs-list] Reiserfs with Samba vs NetApp Filer

2002-10-10 Thread Dieter Nützel

Am Donnerstag, 10. Oktober 2002 20:57 schrieb Dieter Nützel:

 Read about it on LKML.
 LVM is dropped with 2.5.41+.
 LVM2 comes under the hood of EMVS.

Of course EVMS ;-)

-Dieter



[reiserfs-list] ReiserFS Documentation

2002-10-10 Thread Abhijit Dinkar

Hi,
Can anyone point me to ReiserFS documentation? I have been through the
whitepapers on www.namesys.com and some code. 
A more detailed note would be useful.

TIA,
Abhijit