[Repeater-Builder] SS-32/5K/Micor

2004-08-24 Thread Kevin Berlen
I am installing a Comm Spec SS-32 encoder in a Micor
repeater. I am using a logic output from an S-Com 5K
controller to key the ground connection to the encoder
whenever the RX COR is active. I need to do this to
be able to link into another system.

My problem is when ever the encoder is keyed or
unkeyed, it causes the TX to drift off frequency about
+/- 900Hz. It apears that this is being casued by a cap
charging/discharging. I have tried several different
tone insertion points, always with the same result.

Has anyone else had this problem? Is there an
alternate way to hook up the PL encoder? TIA
and 73,

Kevin, K9HX






 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Coaxial Cable Specs.

2004-08-24 Thread k6tam




Thanks for the help Joe, I unrolled it today and measured 320 FT. with no cuts or dings. I'll do the measure thing but doing some comparing it looks like 50 ohm.

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] rfi 28-70-41a

2004-08-24 Thread ian wells
hi eric
i tried emailing txrx on both email addresses and it came back with not
valid
but if the unit is for 450-470mhz then it wont be suitable for 473 and
478mhz
i thank you for the reply
Thank you
Ian Wells
Kerinvale Comaudio
mail service 1017,
Biloela,4715.
www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au
1-email- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
2-email- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Original Message - 
From: Eric Lemmon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 12:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] rfi 28-70-41a


 Ian,

 I suspect that the duplexer was made by TX-RX Systems.  The 28
 indicates that it uses the Vari-Notch pseudo bandpass circuit, the
 70 indicates that it is for the 450-470 MHz band, and the 41 is an
 electrical specification of the number, size, and shape of the
 cavities.  The a indicates a standard 19-inch rack mount.

 My TX-RX catalog does not list a 41 variant, so it might be a special
 model.  Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] for help in determining the
 specifications of your duplexer.

 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY

 ian wells wrote:
 
  can anyone advise any information on the above diplexer
  Thank you
  Ian Wells
  Kerinvale Comaudio
  mail service 1017,
  Biloela,4715.
  www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] rfi 28-70-41a

2004-08-24 Thread Eric Lemmon
Ian,

I suspect that the duplexer was made by TX-RX Systems.  The 28
indicates that it uses the Vari-Notch pseudo bandpass circuit, the
70 indicates that it is for the 450-470 MHz band, and the 41 is an
electrical specification of the number, size, and shape of the
cavities.  The a indicates a standard 19-inch rack mount.

My TX-RX catalog does not list a 41 variant, so it might be a special
model.  Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] for help in determining the
specifications of your duplexer.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY

ian wells wrote:
 
 can anyone advise any information on the above diplexer
 Thank you
 Ian Wells
 Kerinvale Comaudio
 mail service 1017,
 Biloela,4715.
 www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au
 1-email- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] rfi 28-70-41a

2004-08-24 Thread W9DHI

Actually there is enough tuning to allow you to use their 450-470 units from
about 440 to 480so it will work for you.  I've used the same model
(different Variant) both on a 442 system and on a T Band system at 473.


Gregg R. Lengling, W9DHI, Retired
Administrator http://www.milwaukeehdtv.org
K2/100 S#3075 KX1 S# 57
Member:  ARRL, RSGB, RCA, WERA and ORC
 


-Original Message-
From: ian wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 9:31 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] rfi 28-70-41a

hi eric
i tried emailing txrx on both email addresses and it came back with not
valid
but if the unit is for 450-470mhz then it wont be suitable for 473 and
478mhz
i thank you for the reply
Thank you
Ian Wells
Kerinvale Comaudio
mail service 1017,
Biloela,4715.
www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au
1-email- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
2-email- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Original Message - 
From: Eric Lemmon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 12:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] rfi 28-70-41a


 Ian,

 I suspect that the duplexer was made by TX-RX Systems.  The 28
 indicates that it uses the Vari-Notch pseudo bandpass circuit, the
 70 indicates that it is for the 450-470 MHz band, and the 41 is an
 electrical specification of the number, size, and shape of the
 cavities.  The a indicates a standard 19-inch rack mount.

 My TX-RX catalog does not list a 41 variant, so it might be a special
 model.  Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] for help in determining the
 specifications of your duplexer.

 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY

 ian wells wrote:
 
  can anyone advise any information on the above diplexer
  Thank you
  Ian Wells
  Kerinvale Comaudio
  mail service 1017,
  Biloela,4715.
  www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] rfi 28-70-41a

2004-08-24 Thread ian wells
thanks
would anyone have tuneing information
Thank you
Ian Wells
Kerinvale Comaudio
mail service 1017,
Biloela,4715.
www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au
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Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 12:43 PM
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] rfi 28-70-41a



 Actually there is enough tuning to allow you to use their 450-470 units
from
 about 440 to 480so it will work for you.  I've used the same model
 (different Variant) both on a 442 system and on a T Band system at 473.


 Gregg R. Lengling, W9DHI, Retired
 Administrator http://www.milwaukeehdtv.org
 K2/100 S#3075 KX1 S# 57
 Member:  ARRL, RSGB, RCA, WERA and ORC



 -Original Message-
 From: ian wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 9:31 PM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] rfi 28-70-41a

 hi eric
 i tried emailing txrx on both email addresses and it came back with not
 valid
 but if the unit is for 450-470mhz then it wont be suitable for 473 and
 478mhz
 i thank you for the reply
 Thank you
 Ian Wells
 Kerinvale Comaudio
 mail service 1017,
 Biloela,4715.
 www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au
 1-email- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 2-email- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 - Original Message - 
 From: Eric Lemmon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 12:30 PM
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] rfi 28-70-41a


  Ian,
 
  I suspect that the duplexer was made by TX-RX Systems.  The 28
  indicates that it uses the Vari-Notch pseudo bandpass circuit, the
  70 indicates that it is for the 450-470 MHz band, and the 41 is an
  electrical specification of the number, size, and shape of the
  cavities.  The a indicates a standard 19-inch rack mount.
 
  My TX-RX catalog does not list a 41 variant, so it might be a special
  model.  Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] for help in determining the
  specifications of your duplexer.
 
  73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
 
  ian wells wrote:
  
   can anyone advise any information on the above diplexer
   Thank you
   Ian Wells
   Kerinvale Comaudio
   mail service 1017,
   Biloela,4715.
   www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au
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[Repeater-Builder] R100 Repeater

2004-08-24 Thread texaswpd103

I picked up a good used Mot R100 repeater that I received today. It 
did not come with a manual or the key to open the cover. Does anybody 
know if the key is a universal Motorola key or each take an 
individual key. Also, does anybody have an electronic version of the 
manual. I am going to take to my local Motorola shop to have 
programmed but would like to know all of the options I have before I 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Low band Maxtrac band change?

2004-08-24 Thread Mike Mullarkey
Yes it is possible I have a unit in service and works great.

K7pfj

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Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004 10:24 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Lowband Maxtrac band chage?


At 10:04 AM 8/18/04, you wrote:


Hello, everyone. I have a 2 channel 36-42 split 100W Maxtrac, is it
possible
to slide it up to 6 meters? If not, anyone want to trade? =]

Jason

First of all, the name Maxtrac got used on several different chassis.

You need to post the full model number for us to help you.

Lastly once you supply the model number we can look it up in
a manual and post the differences.  You may want to rebuild the
RF circuits, or you may end up trading, or selling on eBay.

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[Repeater-Builder] UHF GE Mastr II /or transmission line wanted

2004-08-24 Thread Rodger, AB0YW

Hi,

I'm looking for a UHF repeater system.  I need 7/8 hardline (about 250')
as well as the station equipment.  My ideal system would be a GE Mastr II
base station setup, complete with duplexers.  I'm interested in 75w or
110w PA, but would be willing to buy a system minus PA.  I will handle
conversion and re-crystaling.

Also, I would be interested in buying duplexers separate if anyone has a
good deal.

I live in Nebraska and am willing to drive regionally for pick-up.  If
anyone has these items, please let me know.

Thanks and 73,

- Rodger
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] R100 Repeater

2004-08-24 Thread Maire Company
the 2135 key it is


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Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 8:31 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] R100 Repeater


 
 I picked up a good used Mot R100 repeater that I received today. It 
 did not come with a manual or the key to open the cover. Does anybody 
 know if the key is a universal Motorola key or each take an 
 individual key. Also, does anybody have an electronic version of the 
 manual. I am going to take to my local Motorola shop to have 
 programmed but would like to know all of the options I have before I 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] SS-32/5K/Micor

2004-08-24 Thread Jim B.

Kevin Berlen wrote:

 I am installing a Comm Spec SS-32 encoder in a Micor
 repeater. I am using a logic output from an S-Com 5K
 controller to key the ground connection to the encoder
 whenever the RX COR is active. I need to do this to
 be able to link into another system.
 
 My problem is when ever the encoder is keyed or
 unkeyed, it causes the TX to drift off frequency about
 +/- 900Hz. It apears that this is being casued by a cap
 charging/discharging. I have tried several different
 tone insertion points, always with the same result.
 
 Has anyone else had this problem? Is there an
 alternate way to hook up the PL encoder? TIA
 and 73,
 
 Kevin, K9HX
 

You're right about the cap part, but it's an indication of a bad cap. If 
you have another channel element, try putting it in and see if the 
problem is still there. If not, change the xtal over to that element. If 
it is still there, it could either be both elements are bad, or more 
likely one of the caps in the exciter itself are bad.
If you're injecting tone where the PL encoder normally injects it, then 
you're in the right place-don't change it. Although you COULD try 
putting a resistor in series with the output of the decoder. Don't know 
if that would help or not...

-- 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] R100 Repeater

2004-08-24 Thread Neil McKie

  An SASE to 

  WA6KLA 
  PO Box 6267
  Bend OR 97708  
 
  Will get you one, 

  Neil 
 

Maire Company wrote:
 
 the 2135 key it is
 
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 Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 8:31 PM
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] R100 Repeater
 
 
  I picked up a good used Mot R100 repeater that I received today. It
  did not come with a manual or the key to open the cover. Does anybody
  know if the key is a universal Motorola key or each take an
  individual key. Also, does anybody have an electronic version of the
  manual. I am going to take to my local Motorola shop to have
  programmed but would like to know all of the options I have before I
  go in. Thanks,  Ryan Holt
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] R100 Repeater

2004-08-24 Thread N9WYS
Ryan - if you DO find a copy of the manual, PLEASE let me know.  I have two
of these, and certainly would like to have a manual for them.  Also, if you
need help with programming, contact me off list.

Not many options - PL / DPL is about it.  BTW - the key is a standard 2135
key...

Mark - N9WYS

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 Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 8:31 PM
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] R100 Repeater

 
  I picked up a good used Mot R100 repeater that I received today. It
  did not come with a manual or the key to open the cover. Does anybody
  know if the key is a universal Motorola key or each take an
  individual key. Also, does anybody have an electronic version of the
  manual. I am going to take to my local Motorola shop to have
  programmed but would like to know all of the options I have before I
  go in. Thanks,  Ryan Holt
 






 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: R100 Repeater

2004-08-24 Thread motarolla_doctor
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, texaswpd103 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 I picked up a good used Mot R100 repeater I am going to take to my 
local Motorola shop to have programmed 

Ryan, I'll bet the motorola shop does not even know how to work on 
the R100, letalone program it.

If the R100 IS PL, then it can only do PL. DPL requires a different 
microprocessor and a lot of parts changes. They will go to 440 and to 
474 with some alignment. They are NOT broadband.

Being that the German Maxtrac, alias R100, are up near 14 to 18 years 
old you may need to replace a few caps, the two big ones in the power 
supply, and a few on the big logic board.
There are a few improvement mods we have made to the R100's over the 
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[Repeater-Builder] Motorola Radius i50 interconnect

2004-08-24 Thread Daron J. Wilson
Looking for a book on this little autopatch, or at least the pinout for
the DB-15 on the back and the critical (patch on/patch off) commands or
notes.

Thanks,

Daron J. Wilson, RCDD  ) )
Telecom Manager   ( (
LH Morris Electric, Inc.   ) )
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: R100 Repeater

2004-08-24 Thread Dave Schmidt
I had several Moto R100 repeaters. The PA is based on the Motorola
MOSTAR, everything else, I have no clue. 

Software can be found at the hackersrussia web site

The software hack to make the R100 go out of band can be found at:
http://www.batlabs.com/r100.html

The programming cable is VERY SIMPLE, and DOES NOT need a RIB
interface, it just plugs directly into the serial port on the computer.
That schematic is at:
http://www.batlabs.com/images/r100.gif

As for using the repeater - I left the R100 controller connected -
somewhat, but connected the audio path cables to the empty DB-25 port
on the bottom of the case as well as bringing the COR, PTT etc, all the
necessary signals down to the DB-25 port. If you have a DB-25 already
there, Get rid of it, its not of any use its some funky phone patch
thingie, and install your own DB-25. Then make up your cable that goes
from the DB-25 on the R100 to your controller. Much much more reliable,
better audio, more options and control but the best thing, you will
then have an IDer. The stock R100 does not have an IDer built in the
controller board.  One of those Motorola - DUH - things I guess.

As for a manual - No can do here. I sold the last manual a while back,
but you can find them at hamfests.

And forget about taking it to a Moto dealer, a few years ago I had an
R100 that stumped me for at least a month with a problem that
disapeared if you had your eyes looking at it - but would re-aprear if
if you looked away. I took it to a couple moto shops - no one would
touch it, Motorola does not supply the parts anymore for the R100 and
the service shops do not want to waste their time on fixing an old
heap.

Don't get me wrong, I like the dang things in fact I'm actually looking
for a couple more just because they are compact.

I have a question though, I've always seen UHF R100 repeaters, Was
there ever a VHF version? If so, I would love to get my hands on one of
them.

Dave Schmidt
N9NLU
Kewaskum, WI




--- texaswpd103 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks for the info. When I called the radio shop at the City I work 
 for, the radio guy laughed when I aske dif he knew what a 2135 key 
 was. When I got there, I figured out why. He opened a drawer and 
 there were probably 100 of those keys laying there. Still hunting the
 
 manual, though. Even Motorola doesn't have 'em for any price. Keep up
 
 the good work!
 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Radius i50 interconnect

2004-08-24 Thread skipp025
Been there, done that, now have the coffee 
mug and tee shirt.

It was easiest for me to just call motorhead 
(Motorola) and order it direct. The price 
was fair and the shipping was fast. They 
should be able to help you with the current 
manual part number and ordering information. 

cheers
skipp 

skipp025 at yahoo.com 
www.radiowrench.com/sonic

 re: Motorola Radius i50 interconnect
 Daron J. Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Looking for a book on this little autopatch, 
 or at least the pinout for the DB-15 on the 
 back and the critical (patch on/patch off) 
 commands or notes.
 
 Thanks,
 
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 Telecom Manager  
 LH Morris Electric, Inc.  





 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: R100 Repeater

2004-08-24 Thread n2ckh

Well I never had one, but the manual for the R-110 lists  VHF 150Mhz and
225Mhz models as well as UHF. I would love to find some of the 225Mhz
models myself.

/s/ Steve, N2CKH

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From: Dave Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 1:19 pm
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: R100 Repeater

 I had several Moto R100 repeaters. The PA is based on the Motorola
 MOSTAR, everything else, I have no clue. 
 
 Software can be found at the hackersrussia web site
 
 The software hack to make the R100 go out of band can be found at:
 http://www.batlabs.com/r100.html
 
 The programming cable is VERY SIMPLE, and DOES NOT need a RIB
 interface, it just plugs directly into the serial port on the 
 computer.That schematic is at:
 http://www.batlabs.com/images/r100.gif
 
 As for using the repeater - I left the R100 controller connected -
 somewhat, but connected the audio path cables to the empty DB-25 port
 on the bottom of the case as well as bringing the COR, PTT etc, 
 all the
 necessary signals down to the DB-25 port. If you have a DB-25 already
 there, Get rid of it, its not of any use its some funky phone patch
 thingie, and install your own DB-25. Then make up your cable that goes
 from the DB-25 on the R100 to your controller. Much much more 
 reliable,better audio, more options and control but the best 
 thing, you will
 then have an IDer. The stock R100 does not have an IDer built in the
 controller board.  One of those Motorola - DUH - things I guess.
 
 As for a manual - No can do here. I sold the last manual a while back,
 but you can find them at hamfests.
 
 And forget about taking it to a Moto dealer, a few years ago I had an
 R100 that stumped me for at least a month with a problem that
 disapeared if you had your eyes looking at it - but would re-
 aprear if
 if you looked away. I took it to a couple moto shops - no one would
 touch it, Motorola does not supply the parts anymore for the R100 and
 the service shops do not want to waste their time on fixing an old
 heap.
 
 Don't get me wrong, I like the dang things in fact I'm actually 
 lookingfor a couple more just because they are compact.
 
 I have a question though, I've always seen UHF R100 repeaters, Was
 there ever a VHF version? If so, I would love to get my hands on 
 one of
 them.
 
 Dave Schmidt
 N9NLU
 Kewaskum, WI
 
 
 
 
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  Thanks for the info. When I called the radio shop at the City I 
 work 
  for, the radio guy laughed when I aske dif he knew what a 2135 
 key 
  was. When I got there, I figured out why. He opened a drawer and 
  there were probably 100 of those keys laying there. Still 
 hunting the
  
  manual, though. Even Motorola doesn't have 'em for any price. 
 Keep up
  
  the good work!
  
  Ryan Holt, KC5LEU  WQAU267
  
  
  
  
  
  
   
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: R100 Repeater

2004-08-24 Thread Jim B.
hmm...R110? I know the R100 is Maxtrac based, and the R-200 is a Flexar 
rptr...
-- 
Jim Barbour
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 Well I never had one, but the manual for the R-110 lists  VHF 150Mhz and
 225Mhz models as well as UHF. I would love to find some of the 225Mhz
 models myself.
 
 /s/ Steve, N2CKH
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Dave Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 1:19 pm
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: R100 Repeater
 
 
I had several Moto R100 repeaters. The PA is based on the Motorola
MOSTAR, everything else, I have no clue. 

Software can be found at the hackersrussia web site

The software hack to make the R100 go out of band can be found at:
http://www.batlabs.com/r100.html

The programming cable is VERY SIMPLE, and DOES NOT need a RIB
interface, it just plugs directly into the serial port on the 
computer.That schematic is at:
http://www.batlabs.com/images/r100.gif

As for using the repeater - I left the R100 controller connected -
somewhat, but connected the audio path cables to the empty DB-25 port
on the bottom of the case as well as bringing the COR, PTT etc, 
all the
necessary signals down to the DB-25 port. If you have a DB-25 already
there, Get rid of it, its not of any use its some funky phone patch
thingie, and install your own DB-25. Then make up your cable that goes
from the DB-25 on the R100 to your controller. Much much more 
reliable,better audio, more options and control but the best 
thing, you will
then have an IDer. The stock R100 does not have an IDer built in the
controller board.  One of those Motorola - DUH - things I guess.

As for a manual - No can do here. I sold the last manual a while back,
but you can find them at hamfests.

And forget about taking it to a Moto dealer, a few years ago I had an
R100 that stumped me for at least a month with a problem that
disapeared if you had your eyes looking at it - but would re-
aprear if
if you looked away. I took it to a couple moto shops - no one would
touch it, Motorola does not supply the parts anymore for the R100 and
the service shops do not want to waste their time on fixing an old
heap.

Don't get me wrong, I like the dang things in fact I'm actually 
lookingfor a couple more just because they are compact.

I have a question though, I've always seen UHF R100 repeaters, Was
there ever a VHF version? If so, I would love to get my hands on 
one of
them.

Dave Schmidt
N9NLU
Kewaskum, WI





 
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[Repeater-Builder] M2 station PA output network revisited

2004-08-24 Thread Jeff DePolo

A few months back there was some discussion about the tunable antenna
matching network in Mastr II station PA's.  I thought I'd throw out some
measurements I made today on a 100 watt UHF, 450-470 split (unmodified)
operating at 442.550.

With the antenna network tuned per the GE instructions, current draw was
29.0A at 13.80V (13.80V measured at the ring lugs at the end of the
power cables).  This equates to an efficiency of 24.99% - 300 watts of
heat.  The relative reading on the DVM at the test point on the antenna
network was 0.92V.

With the antenna network re-tuned for best efficiency (which is how I
always tune them), current draw was reduced to 22.6A for 100 watts.
This is an efficiency of 31.6%, 216 watts dissipation.  With the network
tuned like this, the relative reading at the test point was 2.82V.

Note that the current draws cited above were for the whole station, not
just the PA, so in reality, the efficiency of the PA by itself is a
little better (and the dissipation a little lower) than what was stated
above.  I'm guessing the station sans PA consumes maybe 10-15W, the rest
is the PA.

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[Repeater-Builder] Simulcast

2004-08-24 Thread Randy Elliott
Hi Gang

I have an interesting problem that has come to me. A small Fire Dept. near
me call today and were wondering if I could get them a Zetron Simplexer. Not
too familiar with it I surmised it was a digital recorder with a
re-broadcaster. I could be way off in this guess. Anyway their main problem
is that their main repeater located many miles north of downtown is
connected via land line from their dispatch center that is located in the
downtown core. When they activate the pagers the transmitted signal of
course comes from the repeater, the coverage into south parts of the town is
very poor in some areas so as a result some peoples pagers never active.
My question is this, could a low power transmitter be located at their
dispatch center that would be only keyed when a page out was initiated? This
would hopefully help coverage into the lower parts of town.
Hope this makes sense to everyone. Looking forward to any comments.

Randy Elliott


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R.E. Communications
234 Rands Rd.
Ajax, Ontario, Canada
L1S 3Y5
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Simulcast

2004-08-24 Thread bradley glen
Hi Randy

We used a Zetron model 55 which is a regenerative
paging store and forward(imagine a digital parrot
repeater.We used it for remote paging zoning but am
quite sure it can be used on same frequency as voice .
They were reliable and one model 55 Zetronwith a
gm300\or m120 was the complete hardware required.
I do remember a model 66 which could basically do
voice and paging as a remote panel.
Regards

Bradley Glen ZS5WT 

--- Randy Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Gang
 
 I have an interesting problem that has come to me. A
 small Fire Dept. near
 me call today and were wondering if I could get them
 a Zetron Simplexer. Not
 too familiar with it I surmised it was a digital
 recorder with a
 re-broadcaster. I could be way off in this guess.
 Anyway their main problem
 is that their main repeater located many miles north
 of downtown is
 connected via land line from their dispatch center
 that is located in the
 downtown core. When they activate the pagers the
 transmitted signal of
 course comes from the repeater, the coverage into
 south parts of the town is
 very poor in some areas so as a result some peoples
 pagers never active.
 My question is this, could a low power transmitter
 be located at their
 dispatch center that would be only keyed when a page
 out was initiated? This
 would hopefully help coverage into the lower parts
 of town.
 Hope this makes sense to everyone. Looking forward
 to any comments.
 
 Randy Elliott
 
 
 Randy Elliott
 R.E. Communications
 234 Rands Rd.
 Ajax, Ontario, Canada
 L1S 3Y5
 905.427.6853
 www.recommunications.ca
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Simulcast

2004-08-24 Thread skipp025
Two or three ways to go: 

If the repeater has a high stability tx channel element, 
you could add a southern similcast transmitter with audio 
delay line and it's respective high stab osc. The process 
requires a bit of enginnering and setup. 

The other thought would be to simply duplicate the page 
on the added local southern transmitter, delayed or same time 
with an expected not-so-good sounding overlap. 

If the page function is not that busy, the delayed/stored and 
forward /que'd method would be easier and mo'cheaper. 

cheers
skipp

 Randy Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Gang
 
 I have an interesting problem that has come to me. A small Fire
Dept. near
 me call today and were wondering if I could get them a Zetron
Simplexer. Not
 too familiar with it I surmised it was a digital recorder with a
 re-broadcaster. I could be way off in this guess. Anyway their main
problem
 is that their main repeater located many miles north of downtown is
 connected via land line from their dispatch center that is located
in the
 downtown core. When they activate the pagers the transmitted signal
of
 course comes from the repeater, the coverage into south parts of the
town is
 very poor in some areas so as a result some peoples pagers never
active.
 My question is this, could a low power transmitter be located at
their
 dispatch center that would be only keyed when a page out was
initiated? This
 would hopefully help coverage into the lower parts of town.
 Hope this makes sense to everyone. Looking forward to any comments.
 
 Randy Elliott
 
 
 Randy Elliott
 R.E. Communications
 234 Rands Rd.
 Ajax, Ontario, Canada
 L1S 3Y5
 905.427.6853
 www.recommunications.ca
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