[Repeater-Builder] NAB Las Vegas

2005-04-16 Thread JOHN MACKEY

Who all is going to NAB next week?






 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] NAB Las Vegas

2005-04-16 Thread mch

I hope I nab it. I sure would hate to miss a week! ;-

Joe M.

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[Repeater-Builder] RP4020 Parts

2005-04-16 Thread Robert Purvis






Hi,

Does anyone know where I can buy a replacement transmitter 
board and/or PA for an Icom RP4020 UHF repeater. 

Bob VE3INY
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Jazz up a repeater

2005-04-16 Thread Rick Charlotte

for all the good stuff I would go with IRLP 

Clock, converts text to speech for weather  and a whole lot more .. 

Rick



On 15 Apr 2005 at 22:50, geodude2010 wrote:

 
 
 
 All that does is id a repater and send messages. It doesnt have a
 clock or any thing goodor does it?
 
 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Ronny Julian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:  I thought something like that was called Echostation? 
 Although he does  charge a fee for it so it's not free.  But then
 what is out there?   I'm planning on buying an Echostation licence
 very soon.  It's the best  and only software based solution I've ever
 seen.  Anyone know any others  for any price? geodude2010
 wrote:  I have a repeater that is hardly used. I have
 echolink on this  repeater.  I want some freeware that I can install
 on my computer  connected with the same interface that will jazz it
 up. Tools like:  saying the time, courtsy tones..e.c.t. All from my
 compter, FOR FREE.  Sense I dont own the repeater, I dont want to
 spend any more(I already  am paying for echolink). Thanks for any
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Audio limiting on incoming signals

2005-04-16 Thread Dave VanHorn

At 11:37 AM 4/15/2005, DCFluX wrote:
Here is the schematic for a Compressor/Expandor/Limiter. I got busy
with other high priority projects, so is any one daring enough to
write the software?


Project has begun.
Did you do PCBs for these, or should I?






 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] RP4020 Parts

2005-04-16 Thread Tedd Doda

On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 00:15:51 -0400, Robert Purvis wrote:

Does anyone know where I can buy a replacement transmitter 
board and/or PA for an Icom RP4020 UHF repeater.  

If I remember right Bob, the 4020 uses a *standard* brick
for the PA. If you remove the top lid, it will be mounted
to the heatsink in the middle of the chassis.

Should be available from RF Parts.



Tedd Doda, VE3TJD

Lazer Audio and Electronics
Baden, Ontario, Canada





 
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[Repeater-Builder] please identify unknown 222Mhz repeater equipment

2005-04-16 Thread Chris Peterson

All,

Please help me identify this unknown 222 TX and RX.  It was donated gear, so
if you're just going to tell me to throw it away, please be prepared to
donate something to replace it.

http://www.sector14.net/~curt/unknown-rx.jpg
http://www.sector14.net/~curt/unknown-tx.jpg

Thanks,
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] please identify unknown 222Mhz repeater equipment

2005-04-16 Thread Rich Poczkalski

Chris,
   This looks like an old VHF Engineering repeater. Popular in the 1970's.
I had one each on VHF and UHF.  Not bad for the price and vintage, but 
a bear to keep stable.  I no longer have any docs on the stuff as they went
with the equipment when it was sold.  As I recall, the tx was about 25 watts
with the PA option, 2.5 watts without.

Hope this helps.


73,

Rich

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All,

Please help me identify this unknown 222 TX and RX.  It was donated gear, so
if you're just going to tell me to throw it away, please be prepared to
donate something to replace it.

http://www.sector14.net/~curt/unknown-rx.jpg
http://www.sector14.net/~curt/unknown-tx.jpg

Thanks,
Chris, KG0BP



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[Repeater-Builder] Motorola Saber 8K Display Board .

2005-04-16 Thread pikeco44




Hello Everyone .
 I'm trying to find a Motorola Saber 3 8K Display Board . Pleas e-mail me Direct . 

Thanks

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[Repeater-Builder] Re: please identify unknown 222Mhz repeater equipment

2005-04-16 Thread wb6fly


Chris,

That is definitely a VHF Engineering repeater, made from a kit.  You 
can download the manuals for these repeaters from several Web sites.  
Here's one:
http://www.qsl.net/yu4dpr/radiotehnika/
Look for the folders with vhfeng in the title.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY

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 All,
 
 Please help me identify this unknown 222 TX and RX.  It was donated 
gear, so
 if you're just going to tell me to throw it away, please be 
prepared to
 donate something to replace it.
 
 http://www.sector14.net/~curt/unknown-rx.jpg
 http://www.sector14.net/~curt/unknown-tx.jpg
 
 Thanks,
 Chris, KG0BP
 
 
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] NAB Las Vegas

2005-04-16 Thread DCFluX

I am thinking of going Tuesday/Wendsday.

On 4/16/05, mch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I hope I nab it. I sure would hate to miss a week! ;-
 
 Joe M.
 
 JOHN MACKEY wrote:
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] duplexer tuning - help

2005-04-16 Thread DCFluX

That would be the best, but you have avalibility and cost issues.

On 4/16/05, Per Molund [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Or maybe Invar alloy for maximum temperature stability?
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] duplexer tuning - help

2005-04-16 Thread Joe

At 07:23 PM 4/15/2005 -0700, you wrote:
The problem with the stability is that most of these were constructed
using a Galvinised steel rod to set the tuning correct?

I solved that problem by putting some slop into the connection between 
the rod and the plunger.  It's kind of hard to explain, but I put two nuts 
on the threaded rod above the plunger, and two nuts below the plunger.  I 
then locked each set of nuts so that the plunger had about 1/16 of play on 
the threaded rod.  This made tuning a little more difficult.  If you past 
either the notch or the peak, you had to back up and take out the slack 
before the tuning went the other way.  Once I had it tuned, I turned the 
threaded rod one-half the distance that it took to take out the slack.  At 
this point, the top nuts and bottom nuts are not touching the threaded 
rod.  Therefore, there was no thermal pull on the plunger when the 
galvanized rod changed length.

By now, you are probably wondering why I went through all the 
trouble!  First, 22oMhz duplexers were hard to come by in the 
1980's.  Second, I'm a very stubborn person and I was going to figure out a 
way to keep them stable.

73, Joe, K1ike






 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] please identify unknown 222Mhz repeater equipment

2005-04-16 Thread Joe

At 10:35 AM 4/16/2005 -0400, you wrote:
Chris,
This looks like an old VHF Engineering repeater.

I agree.  I don't have the docs for it.  I do have the docs for the TX432 
transmitter kit made by VHF Engineering if someone is looking for that one.

73, Joe, K1ike






 
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[Repeater-Builder] Club Deluxe and TKR-750 K2

2005-04-16 Thread Jimmy Floyd

Need the wisdom of the group.

I am trying to interface a TKR-750 K2 to an RLC Club Deluxe controller.
The radio is working fine and controller is known good.
Have not been able to make interface.
Here is pinout of cable that I have from controller to K2:

DB9 pin --- DB25pin
1 ground   7
2  PL i/p   n/c
3  PTT Out   16
4 Audio output  9
5 Audio input10
6 Ground   n/c
7 COR   25
8 Ground   19
9 Ground   12


What settings in Kenwood software need to be on/off - ie: Aux
in/out  if any.
The internal K2 controller is working properly.
Any help appreciated.

Thanks
Jimmy Floyd
NQ4U
www.mtndx.org





 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: please identify unknown 222Mhz repeater equipment

2005-04-16 Thread Chris Peterson

Eric, Rich, Joe, Dave, and anyone else who responded to this whom I might've
forgotten,

Thanks very much for helping not only identify these, but find docs for them
also.

Thanks even more for not letting this degenerate into a flame war about VHF
Engineering.

73,
3,
Chris, KG0BP



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equipment




 Chris,

 That is definitely a VHF Engineering repeater, made from a kit.  You
 can download the manuals for these repeaters from several Web sites.
 Here's one:
 http://www.qsl.net/yu4dpr/radiotehnika/
 Look for the folders with vhfeng in the title.

 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY

 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Chris Peterson
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  All,
 
  Please help me identify this unknown 222 TX and RX.  It was donated
 gear, so
  if you're just going to tell me to throw it away, please be
 prepared to
  donate something to replace it.
 
  http://www.sector14.net/~curt/unknown-rx.jpg
  http://www.sector14.net/~curt/unknown-tx.jpg
 
  Thanks,
  Chris, KG0BP
 
 
 
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[Repeater-Builder] MSF-5000 Manual

2005-04-16 Thread Joe

Was someone looking for a manual for a MSF-5000 on this list?  If so, I 
have one.

Joe







 
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[Repeater-Builder] Fw: [PRM80] prm80 L UW

2005-04-16 Thread ian wells






Hi guys I have a prm80 L UW -PRM8025 and the backlighting has 
failed .light bulbs are ok and no 8 volts on pin 5 on the microphone .This 
occured after a mic that was wired wrong was tried in the mic 
socket.I have service manual to it but the model must be different as very 
few diagrams match up.any sugestions .both 5 volt and 9 volt regs are 
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[Repeater-Builder] 406-420 MHz.ANTENNA

2005-04-16 Thread horsmanmichael




I have a surpluse [80+] of Motorola # TDE7230A made by Decibel
Products, mod# DB404[406-420MHz.]

All antennas are new in box with test spec sheet,including N male
termination and mounting hardware.

These antennas list for $343 each. Reasonable offers considered.
Referrals to interested parties very much appreciated.

Thanks,Mike H.












 
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[Repeater-Builder] RE:406-420MHz.

2005-04-16 Thread horsmanmichael





Hi -- The last few I sold for $195 + $50 UPS to most places [large , 
heavy box. Here is a link the may have more info for you. 
http://www.andrew.com/products/antennas/bsa/results.aspx?modnum=db404 

I would like to find a new home for these antennas so make me an offer 
that I cannot refuse! 


Have a good one, Mike H.

 

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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Jazz up a repeater

2005-04-16 Thread geodude2010


Is there a windows version?

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Jazz up a repeater

2005-04-16 Thread Rick Charlotte

NO !

bercause windows is an unstable OS it runs under linux .. FC3  ( 
readhat)

there are a lot of people that will help you out if needed and you 
install the OS witch is FREE and the install team will install the 
software for you (basic IRLP you have to add the extras)

System needed to run IRLP P 2  with 128 meg ram and a 2 gig HD ( 
extra space allways nice IRLP will run under a 1 gig HD)

all you have to do is give dave a shout (irlp.net) order an interface 
board and away you go .. ( no you cant use the interface from 
echolink) BUT you can run IRLP and Echo link off the same Linux 
box   go to the IRLP list on yahoo groups and also the 
echolinkirlp (echoirlp) and there are a lot of people that run both 


I hope this helps out .. sorry for the bandwith here .. but I thought it 
would be nice to answer this on the list 

Rick



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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: please identify unknown 222Mhz repeater equipment

2005-04-16 Thread Dexter McIntyre W4DEX

Chris Peterson wrote:

 Thanks very much for helping not only identify these, but find docs for them
 also.
 
 Thanks even more for not letting this degenerate into a flame war about VHF
 Engineering.

I think this is the first time a VHF Engineering question has been asked 
without a bunch of negative comments being made :)

The power amp board you have isn't VHF Engineering.  Their power amp is 
on a PC board about the same dimension as the transmitter.

I built a VHF Engineering 220 repeater kit in January 1977.  It has seen 
very little down time and is still on the air working well now after 28 
years of yeoman service.  A RC-1000 controller and Micor squelch has 
been added but the RF boards are original.

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[Repeater-Builder] What have I got here? Micor mobile

2005-04-16 Thread Ronny Julian

VHF Hi band elements are in 156 range.  Model # T53RTA1404BA

60W drawer only.  I've never seen one like this though.  It has a option 
installed that looks to be a mobile extender.  It fits onto the end of 
the drawer and makes the entire thing just about 5 inches longer 
overal.  This has a small duplexer and two other channel elements.  What 
have I got here and what are the repeater modification possibilities?  
(222?)

Thanks!

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: [PRM80] prm80 L UW

2005-04-16 Thread Glenn Little WB4UIV

Check for an open choke in series with the power lead to the microphone.

73
Glenn
WB4UIV

At 05:28 PM 04/16/05, you wrote:

  Hi guys I have a prm80 L UW -PRM8025  and the backlighting has failed .
light bulbs are ok and no 8 volts on pin 5 on the microphone .This
occured after a mic that  was wired wrong was tried in the mic socket.
I have service manual to it but the model must be different as very few
diagrams match up.any sugestions .both 5 volt and 9 volt regs are ok


















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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Club Deluxe and TKR-750 K2

2005-04-16 Thread Mike Mullarkey

DONOT use the 9-pin connector use the DB-25 contact me off the list and ill
give you a dat file.

Oregon Repeater Linking Group
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jimmy Floyd
Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 12:59 PM
To: Repeater-Builder
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Club Deluxe and TKR-750 K2


Need the wisdom of the group.

I am trying to interface a TKR-750 K2 to an RLC Club Deluxe controller.
The radio is working fine and controller is known good.
Have not been able to make interface.
Here is pinout of cable that I have from controller to K2:

DB9 pin --- DB25pin
1 ground   7
2  PL i/p   n/c
3  PTT Out   16
4 Audio output  9
5 Audio input10
6 Ground   n/c
7 COR   25
8 Ground   19
9 Ground   12


What settings in Kenwood software need to be on/off - ie: Aux
in/out  if any.
The internal K2 controller is working properly.
Any help appreciated.

Thanks
Jimmy Floyd
NQ4U
www.mtndx.org





 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: please identify unknown 222Mhz repeater equipment

2005-04-16 Thread Dave VanHorn



The power amp board you have isn't VHF Engineering.  Their power amp is
on a PC board about the same dimension as the transmitter.

It looks identical to the power amp in our 440 machine, which was 
from hamtronics.






 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] What have I got here? Micor mobile

2005-04-16 Thread Kevin Custer

Likely an EMS mobile repeater...
Not really any better (or easier) to convert to a Ham repeater.

Kevin

Ronny Julian wrote:

VHF Hi band elements are in 156 range.  Model # T53RTA1404BA

60W drawer only.  I've never seen one like this though.  It has a option 
installed that looks to be a mobile extender.  It fits onto the end of 
the drawer and makes the entire thing just about 5 inches longer 
overal.  This has a small duplexer and two other channel elements.  What 
have I got here and what are the repeater modification possibilities?  
(222?)

Thanks!

K4RJJ Ronny






 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: [PRM80] prm80 L UW

2005-04-16 Thread ian wells





thanks glen .i found it to be a small surface mount 
transistor just up from the regulators .it was burned out 
Thank youIan WellsKerinvale 
Comaudiomail service 1017,Biloela,4715.www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au

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  [PRM80] prm80 L UW
  Check for an open choke in series with the power lead to 
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  wrote: Hi guys I have a prm80 L UW -PRM8025 and 
  the backlighting has failed .light bulbs are ok and no 8 volts on pin 
  5 on the microphone .Thisoccured after a mic that was wired 
  wrong was tried in the mic socket.I have service manual to it but the 
  model must be different as very fewdiagrams match up.any sugestions 
  .both 5 volt and 9 volt regs are 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] What have I got here? Micor mobile

2005-04-16 Thread N9WYS

I also recall low band Micor's being equipped with an extended receive
option - worked so the county sheriff (on 39 MHz) could receive the State
Police (on 42 MHz)...  That added an extra section to the drawer, just like
you described.

Sorry if the model number given wasn't for a low band radio - I'm not up to
speed on immediate decoding of mother M's model numbers off the top of my
head...

Mark - N9WYS

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Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] What have I got here? Micor mobile

Likely an EMS mobile repeater...
Not really any better (or easier) to convert to a Ham repeater.

Kevin

Ronny Julian wrote:

VHF Hi band elements are in 156 range.  Model # T53RTA1404BA

60W drawer only.  I've never seen one like this though.  It has a option
installed that looks to be a mobile extender.  It fits onto the end of
the drawer and makes the entire thing just about 5 inches longer
overal.  This has a small duplexer and two other channel elements.  What
have I got here and what are the repeater modification possibilities?
(222?)

Thanks!

K4RJJ Ronny





 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] What have I got here? Micor mobile

2005-04-16 Thread Ronny Julian

It's VHF but who knows  Maybe it's one of those for high VHF. 

I'm going to pursue making a 222 repeater out of it.  After I tackle the 
UHF conversion.

I'll take some pics of it on Sunday and upload them to the files section.




N9WYS wrote:

I also recall low band Micor's being equipped with an extended receive
option - worked so the county sheriff (on 39 MHz) could receive the State
Police (on 42 MHz)...  That added an extra section to the drawer, just like
you described.

Sorry if the model number given wasn't for a low band radio - I'm not up to
speed on immediate decoding of mother M's model numbers off the top of my
head...

Mark - N9WYS

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Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] What have I got here? Micor mobile

Likely an EMS mobile repeater...
Not really any better (or easier) to convert to a Ham repeater.

Kevin

Ronny Julian wrote:

  

VHF Hi band elements are in 156 range.  Model # T53RTA1404BA

60W drawer only.  I've never seen one like this though.  It has a option
installed that looks to be a mobile extender.  It fits onto the end of
the drawer and makes the entire thing just about 5 inches longer
overal.  This has a small duplexer and two other channel elements.  What
have I got here and what are the repeater modification possibilities?
(222?)

Thanks!

K4RJJ Ronny







 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE Delta/Ranger Wall mount

2005-04-16 Thread mch

Paul Finch wrote:
 
 Is this radio synthesized?

Yes

 How hard it is to come up with programming facilities?

It's fairly common.

 Is it able to be duplexed?

No

 Is it worth it?

Not as a repeater. The duty cycle is only 5%.

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] GE Delta/Ranger Wall mount

2005-04-16 Thread Paul Finch

Joe,

Found the book, there were two of them.  One says 14% and the other says 20%
duty cycle.  I looked in the schematics and sure enough it has only one
synthesizer.  Would be nice if there was two, guess GE saved a dollar or two
on the cost.

Paul


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Paul Finch wrote:

 Is this radio synthesized?

Yes

 How hard it is to come up with programming facilities?

It's fairly common.

 Is it able to be duplexed?

No

 Is it worth it?

Not as a repeater. The duty cycle is only 5%.

Joe M.






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Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE Delta/Ranger Wall mount

2005-04-16 Thread mch

And why not? No need for two synthesizers in a mobile. In fact, I can't
say I know of any mobiles that use two. The base station may be 20% with
the fan. I'm pretty sure the mobile is 5% (no fan).

Joe M.

Paul Finch wrote:
 
 Joe,
 
 Found the book, there were two of them.  One says 14% and the other says 20%
 duty cycle.  I looked in the schematics and sure enough it has only one
 synthesizer.  Would be nice if there was two, guess GE saved a dollar or two
 on the cost.
 
 Paul
 
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 Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 8:33 PM
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 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE Delta/Ranger Wall mount
 
 Paul Finch wrote:
 
  Is this radio synthesized?
 
 Yes
 
  How hard it is to come up with programming facilities?
 
 It's fairly common.
 
  Is it able to be duplexed?
 
 No
 
  Is it worth it?
 
 Not as a repeater. The duty cycle is only 5%.
 
 Joe M.
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE Delta/Ranger Wall mount

2005-04-16 Thread mch

I just re-read your original post. I assumed it was a RANGR you had. Is
it a DELTA-S or DELTA-SX? If it's a plain DELTA, those are crystal and
can be converted to a repeater, but the duty cycle still isn't adequate
for repeater use.

Joe M.

mch wrote:
 
 And why not? No need for two synthesizers in a mobile. In fact, I can't
 say I know of any mobiles that use two. The base station may be 20% with
 the fan. I'm pretty sure the mobile is 5% (no fan).
 
 Joe M.
 
 Paul Finch wrote:
 
  Joe,
 
  Found the book, there were two of them.  One says 14% and the other says 20%
  duty cycle.  I looked in the schematics and sure enough it has only one
  synthesizer.  Would be nice if there was two, guess GE saved a dollar or two
  on the cost.
 
  Paul
 
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  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE Delta/Ranger Wall mount
 
  Paul Finch wrote:
  
   Is this radio synthesized?
 
  Yes
 
   How hard it is to come up with programming facilities?
 
  It's fairly common.
 
   Is it able to be duplexed?
 
  No
 
   Is it worth it?
 
  Not as a repeater. The duty cycle is only 5%.
 
  Joe M.
 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] GE Delta/Ranger Wall mount

2005-04-16 Thread Paul Finch

Joe,

Are you saying that the offset oscillator can be strapped to continue doing
it's job while the receive is still working?  Most synthesized repeaters I
know of have two VCO's, may have not used the correct terminology there when
I said synthesizer.  Sorry bout that!!


By the way, I am looking at two different original GE books and like I said,
one says 14 the other says 20%, don't really care.  If this would have been
a useable transmitter even 14% would have been OK just to get the repeater
on the air while ordering crystals for one of the other Mastr II's.

Paul


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Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE Delta/Ranger Wall mount



And why not? No need for two synthesizers in a mobile. In fact, I can't
say I know of any mobiles that use two. The base station may be 20% with
the fan. I'm pretty sure the mobile is 5% (no fan).

Joe M.

Paul Finch wrote:

 Joe,

 Found the book, there were two of them.  One says 14% and the other says
20%
 duty cycle.  I looked in the schematics and sure enough it has only one
 synthesizer.  Would be nice if there was two, guess GE saved a dollar or
two
 on the cost.

 Paul

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 From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of mch
 Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 8:33 PM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE Delta/Ranger Wall mount

 Paul Finch wrote:
 
  Is this radio synthesized?

 Yes

  How hard it is to come up with programming facilities?

 It's fairly common.

  Is it able to be duplexed?

 No

  Is it worth it?

 Not as a repeater. The duty cycle is only 5%.

 Joe M.

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[Repeater-Builder] Adding TD-5 Decoder to Hamtronics REP100

2005-04-16 Thread Rennie Kontak



I just bought the Hamtronics TD-5 Encoder/Decoder to install in my
Hamtronics REP-100 220mHz Repeater. I have been reading the manual
that came with the TD-5 Encoder/Decoder and cross referencing it with
the Hamtronic R220 VHF FM Rcvr and COR-3 Manuals and I am getting more
confused with each reading. I did not build this unit so I am not
fully familliar with it. It has been kerchunking itself pretty
regularly the last 6 months and I want to install the receive decoder
to help eliminate some (if not all) of the problems. Maybe after I get
this working I can get some insight into connecting it to the
Touch-Tone to turn it on and off; I am the weakest link... ;-)

Can anyone offer me some advice?

Thank you,
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: please identify unknown 222Mhz repeater equipment

2005-04-16 Thread NØATH

Yep - and it's a good one too. It has the optional narrow filter in it. I have 
a manual for it I believe. Used to have one,
wasn't all that bad actually. Repeater audio sounded good. I think I still have 
the ID board somewhere here. Used to double up the diodes to shift gears on the 
CW id, about the same time they came out with the codeless tech.
Dave / NØATH

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Chris,

That is definitely a VHF Engineering repeater, made from a kit.  You 
can download the manuals for these repeaters from several Web sites.  
Here's one:
http://www.qsl.net/yu4dpr/radiotehnika/
Look for the folders with vhfeng in the title.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY

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 All,
 
 Please help me identify this unknown 222 TX and RX.  It was donated 
gear, so
 if you're just going to tell me to throw it away, please be 
prepared to
 donate something to replace it.
 
 http://www.sector14.net/~curt/unknown-rx.jpg
 http://www.sector14.net/~curt/unknown-tx.jpg
 
 Thanks,
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] GE Delta/Ranger Wall mount

2005-04-16 Thread Paul Finch

Joe,

The wall mount book LBI-31453D says to refer to the mobile book which is
a Rangr 403-512 MHZ book, LBI-38181 if that helps.

Like I said, just hoping this would work as a temporary repeater to get me
by till I can get the crystals ordered for some Mastr II equipment I have.

Thanks,
Paul



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I just re-read your original post. I assumed it was a RANGR you had. Is
it a DELTA-S or DELTA-SX? If it's a plain DELTA, those are crystal and
can be converted to a repeater, but the duty cycle still isn't adequate
for repeater use.

Joe M.

mch wrote:

 And why not? No need for two synthesizers in a mobile. In fact, I can't
 say I know of any mobiles that use two. The base station may be 20% with
 the fan. I'm pretty sure the mobile is 5% (no fan).

 Joe M.

 Paul Finch wrote:
 
  Joe,
 
  Found the book, there were two of them.  One says 14% and the other says
20%
  duty cycle.  I looked in the schematics and sure enough it has only one
  synthesizer.  Would be nice if there was two, guess GE saved a dollar or
two
  on the cost.
 
  Paul
 
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  From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of mch
  Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 8:33 PM
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE Delta/Ranger Wall mount
 
  Paul Finch wrote:
  
   Is this radio synthesized?
 
  Yes
 
   How hard it is to come up with programming facilities?
 
  It's fairly common.
 
   Is it able to be duplexed?
 
  No
 
   Is it worth it?
 
  Not as a repeater. The duty cycle is only 5%.
 
  Joe M.
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE Delta/Ranger Wall mount

2005-04-16 Thread mch

No - I'm saying in a mobile there is no need for duplex operation, so
why not '(save) a dollar or two on the cost' when you're not affecting
the operation of the mobile? There was no need for two synthesizers, so
you can't fault them for not designing it with two.

Yes - most REPEATERS have two. You don't have a repeater there, though -
you have a mobile, albeit in a cabinet with external controls and a
power supply. It's still not a repeater.

Joe M.

Paul Finch wrote:
 
 Joe,
 
 Are you saying that the offset oscillator can be strapped to continue doing
 it's job while the receive is still working?  Most synthesized repeaters I
 know of have two VCO's, may have not used the correct terminology there when
 I said synthesizer.  Sorry bout that!!
 
 By the way, I am looking at two different original GE books and like I said,
 one says 14 the other says 20%, don't really care.  If this would have been
 a useable transmitter even 14% would have been OK just to get the repeater
 on the air while ordering crystals for one of the other Mastr II's.
 
 Paul
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of mch
 Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 9:37 PM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE Delta/Ranger Wall mount
 
 And why not? No need for two synthesizers in a mobile. In fact, I can't
 say I know of any mobiles that use two. The base station may be 20% with
 the fan. I'm pretty sure the mobile is 5% (no fan).
 
 Joe M.
 
 Paul Finch wrote:
 
  Joe,
 
  Found the book, there were two of them.  One says 14% and the other says
 20%
  duty cycle.  I looked in the schematics and sure enough it has only one
  synthesizer.  Would be nice if there was two, guess GE saved a dollar or
 two
  on the cost.
 
  Paul
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of mch
  Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 8:33 PM
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE Delta/Ranger Wall mount
 
  Paul Finch wrote:
  
   Is this radio synthesized?
 
  Yes
 
   How hard it is to come up with programming facilities?
 
  It's fairly common.
 
   Is it able to be duplexed?
 
  No
 
   Is it worth it?
 
  Not as a repeater. The duty cycle is only 5%.
 
  Joe M.
 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] GE Delta/Ranger Wall mount

2005-04-16 Thread Paul Finch

I know it's not a repeater, none of my repeaters were repeaters before I
made them repeaters.

Never mind,
Paul


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No - I'm saying in a mobile there is no need for duplex operation, so
why not '(save) a dollar or two on the cost' when you're not affecting
the operation of the mobile? There was no need for two synthesizers, so
you can't fault them for not designing it with two.

Yes - most REPEATERS have two. You don't have a repeater there, though -
you have a mobile, albeit in a cabinet with external controls and a
power supply. It's still not a repeater.

Joe M.

Paul Finch wrote:

 Joe,

 Are you saying that the offset oscillator can be strapped to continue
doing
 it's job while the receive is still working?  Most synthesized repeaters I
 know of have two VCO's, may have not used the correct terminology there
when
 I said synthesizer.  Sorry bout that!!

 By the way, I am looking at two different original GE books and like I
said,
 one says 14 the other says 20%, don't really care.  If this would have
been
 a useable transmitter even 14% would have been OK just to get the repeater
 on the air while ordering crystals for one of the other Mastr II's.

 Paul

 -Original Message-
 From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of mch
 Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 9:37 PM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE Delta/Ranger Wall mount

 And why not? No need for two synthesizers in a mobile. In fact, I can't
 say I know of any mobiles that use two. The base station may be 20% with
 the fan. I'm pretty sure the mobile is 5% (no fan).

 Joe M.

 Paul Finch wrote:
 
  Joe,
 
  Found the book, there were two of them.  One says 14% and the other says
 20%
  duty cycle.  I looked in the schematics and sure enough it has only one
  synthesizer.  Would be nice if there was two, guess GE saved a dollar or
 two
  on the cost.
 
  Paul
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of mch
  Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 8:33 PM
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE Delta/Ranger Wall mount
 
  Paul Finch wrote:
  
   Is this radio synthesized?
 
  Yes
 
   How hard it is to come up with programming facilities?
 
  It's fairly common.
 
   Is it able to be duplexed?
 
  No
 
   Is it worth it?
 
  Not as a repeater. The duty cycle is only 5%.
 
  Joe M.
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE Delta/Ranger Wall mount

2005-04-16 Thread mch

You're not understanding what I'm saying. You said (still quoted at
bottom) Would be nice if there was two, guess GE saved a dollar or two
on the cost.

It's not fair to blame GE for there only being one synthesizer. It's a
mobile (or a base in your configuration). It's not a repeater and was
never meant to be a repeater, so there was no need for two synthesizers.
Do you think they should have put two in because someday someone might
want to make a duplex repeater out of it? There was no need for two, so
it's not fair to blame them for saving the cost.

Joe M.

Paul Finch wrote:
 
 I know it's not a repeater, none of my repeaters were repeaters before I
 made them repeaters.
 
 Never mind,
 Paul
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of mch
 Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 10:16 PM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE Delta/Ranger Wall mount
 
 No - I'm saying in a mobile there is no need for duplex operation, so
 why not '(save) a dollar or two on the cost' when you're not affecting
 the operation of the mobile? There was no need for two synthesizers, so
 you can't fault them for not designing it with two.
 
 Yes - most REPEATERS have two. You don't have a repeater there, though -
 you have a mobile, albeit in a cabinet with external controls and a
 power supply. It's still not a repeater.
 
 Joe M.
 
 Paul Finch wrote:
 
  Joe,
 
  Are you saying that the offset oscillator can be strapped to continue
 doing
  it's job while the receive is still working?  Most synthesized repeaters I
  know of have two VCO's, may have not used the correct terminology there
 when
  I said synthesizer.  Sorry bout that!!
 
  By the way, I am looking at two different original GE books and like I
 said,
  one says 14 the other says 20%, don't really care.  If this would have
 been
  a useable transmitter even 14% would have been OK just to get the repeater
  on the air while ordering crystals for one of the other Mastr II's.
 
  Paul
 
  -Original Message-
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  Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 9:37 PM
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE Delta/Ranger Wall mount
 
  And why not? No need for two synthesizers in a mobile. In fact, I can't
  say I know of any mobiles that use two. The base station may be 20% with
  the fan. I'm pretty sure the mobile is 5% (no fan).
 
  Joe M.
 
  Paul Finch wrote:
  
   Joe,
  
   Found the book, there were two of them.  One says 14% and the other says
  20%
   duty cycle.  I looked in the schematics and sure enough it has only one
   synthesizer.  Would be nice if there was two, guess GE saved a dollar or
  two
   on the cost.
  
   Paul





 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE Delta/Ranger Wall mount

2005-04-16 Thread mch

OK - so it's a wall mount RANGR - actually, a wall mount RANGR 450.
Those have very low duty cycles. Again, they may have increased it when
combined with the fan. Still, not good in any respect for repeater use.
If it's that big of a deal, get the crystals on an emergency basis (48
hours). You will have as much work tied up in making the temporary
repeater as you would spend in money for the expedited crystal service.

Joe M.

Paul Finch wrote:
 
 Joe,
 
 The wall mount book LBI-31453D says to refer to the mobile book which is
 a Rangr 403-512 MHZ book, LBI-38181 if that helps.
 
 Like I said, just hoping this would work as a temporary repeater to get me
 by till I can get the crystals ordered for some Mastr II equipment I have.
 
 Thanks,
 Paul
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
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 Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 9:39 PM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE Delta/Ranger Wall mount
 
 I just re-read your original post. I assumed it was a RANGR you had. Is
 it a DELTA-S or DELTA-SX? If it's a plain DELTA, those are crystal and
 can be converted to a repeater, but the duty cycle still isn't adequate
 for repeater use.
 
 Joe M.
 
 mch wrote:
 
  And why not? No need for two synthesizers in a mobile. In fact, I can't
  say I know of any mobiles that use two. The base station may be 20% with
  the fan. I'm pretty sure the mobile is 5% (no fan).
 
  Joe M.
 
  Paul Finch wrote:
  
   Joe,
  
   Found the book, there were two of them.  One says 14% and the other says
 20%
   duty cycle.  I looked in the schematics and sure enough it has only one
   synthesizer.  Would be nice if there was two, guess GE saved a dollar or
 two
   on the cost.
  
   Paul
  
   -Original Message-
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   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of mch
   Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 8:33 PM
   To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE Delta/Ranger Wall mount
  
   Paul Finch wrote:
   
Is this radio synthesized?
  
   Yes
  
How hard it is to come up with programming facilities?
  
   It's fairly common.
  
Is it able to be duplexed?
  
   No
  
Is it worth it?
  
   Not as a repeater. The duty cycle is only 5%.
  
   Joe M.
  
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