[Repeater-Builder] re: RE: RE: duplexer retuning
well, we are going to try this method: first, we are going to try the unit as is and pay close attention to rx sensitivity and swr. second, we'll retune the notches (this was recommended by mary brown @ tx/rx) third, they go back in a box for a trip back to mama (tx/rx) i'll keep everyone posted. doug Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] re: RE: RE: duplexer retuning
third, they go back in a box for a trip back to mama (tx/rx) Nobody around with a spectrum analyzer or service monitor? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking for alignment data for TPL HMS
There are 3 TPL Manuals on my sonic page, one is for the low band version, another VHF High-band and the last UHF. www.radiowrench.com/sonic Requires the free Adobe PDF File Reader if you don't already have it installed. Enjoy, skipp skipp025 at yahoo.com nj902 wrote: Before I try contacting the manufacturer, I though I would ask the list if anyone might happen to have alignment instructions for a TPL HMS power amplifier. The full model number is PA3-1FG-HMS50. It came to me factory tuned to a 152 MHz paging frequency. It works perfectly, and appears to be a continuous duty product. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Cushman Radio Communications Test Set
I have picked up one of these and the front Designation is obscured. On the back serial number sticker, it refers to it as a model 4000B M02. The unit is equipped with a Model 408 Universal Encoder. Some of the keys on this unit have lost their return spring. So far that is all I have found wrong with it. I thought there should of been a designation such as CE-3 or CE-4 or something like that on the front. I have no documentation on the unit. Can anyone tell me something about it. Thanks Doug VE5DA Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] re: RE: RE: duplexer retuning
milguy Were rootin' for ya'let us know how you do because we have a Wacom 641 that is also 15 khz off and we plan to walk them in.My analyzer is on its way back to IFR. Good luck Gary Katona K2UQ Trenton, NJ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] Motorola Micors
We have a bunch of Motorola Micor VHF radios just gathering dust. All were taken out of railroad service, so they operate in the 160 MHz range. So far I haven't pulled them out to see how clean they are. I'm first interested in opinions on their general value. This group seems like a good place to gather such info. I looked at model numbers. Probably a dozen are R43RTE1190BA (70 / 12 volt); other model numbers were R43RTN1190A, R73RTN3100A R43RTE1190AA. Do I have a gold mine or a bunch of boat anchors? 73 Don Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Duplexer Retuning
Doug, It is a characteristic of BpBr (bandpass/bandreject) duplexers that the pass function is very broad while the reject notch is extremely sharp. While it is true that a 15 kHz shift will probably not be noticed on the pass, it *might* be significant on the notch. It takes a network analyzer, or a tracking spectrum analyzer with a return-loss bridge, to accurately set the pass tuning. The notch is relatively easy to tune- just tune for minimum signal at the reject frequency. Another characteristic of BpBr duplexers is that adjustment of the threaded tuning rod moves both the pass and the notch in unison, while adjustment of the notch capacitor moves only the notch. Therefore, you should NOT touch the capacitor. Simply tune the threaded rod while watching the notch on a spectrum analyzer or RF millivoltmeter for minimum signal at the notch frequency. It may be a good idea to tune each cavity individually. Keep in mind that 15 kHz is a very small shift, so the movement of the threaded rod may be very small- perhaps 1/8 of a turn or less. On a TX-RX duplexer, maybe much less. I tend to agree with other posters who suggest that you could probably use the duplexer as-is. A 15 kHz shift is a pretty small change, and the tuning should be attempted only with test equipment that is known to be exactly on frequency or is slaved to a frequency standard. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY doug wrote: well, we are going to try this method: first, we are going to try the unit as is and pay close attention to rx sensitivity and swr. second, we'll retune the notches (this was recommended by mary brown @ tx/rx) third, they go back in a box for a trip back to mama (tx/rx) i'll keep everyone posted. doug Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Micors
Somewhat depends on if you are going to build a repeater - or - feel the need to have a bunch of spare parts handy. Neil - WA6KLA Don Pomplun wrote: We have a bunch of Motorola Micor VHF radios just gathering dust. All were taken out of railroad service, so they operate in the 160 MHz range. So far I haven't pulled them out to see how clean they are. I'm first interested in opinions on their general value. This group seems like a good place to gather such info. I looked at model numbers. Probably a dozen are R43RTE1190BA (70 / 12 volt); other model numbers were R43RTN1190A, R73RTN3100A R43RTE1190AA. Do I have a gold mine or a bunch of boat anchors? 73 Don Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Micors
My personal opinion is that you may have trouble giving them away. I likely wouldn't take one if they were free, maybe others would. But then all my repeaters are either UHF or on 6. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Don Pomplun To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 12:44 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Micors We have a bunch of Motorola Micor VHF radios just gathering dust. All were taken out of railroad service, so they operate in the 160 MHz range. So far I haven't pulled them out to see how clean they are. I'm first interested in opinions on their general value. This group seems like a good place to gather such info.I looked at model numbers. Probably a dozen are R43RTE1190BA (70 / 12 volt); other model numbers were R43RTN1190A, R73RTN3100A R43RTE1190AA.Do I have a gold mine or a bunch of boat anchors?73Don Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Micors
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Don Pomplun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have a bunch of Motorola Micor VHF radios just gathering dust. All were taken out of railroad service, so they operate in the 160 MHz range. So far I haven't pulled them out to see how clean they are. I'm first interested in opinions on their general value. This group seems like a good place to gather such info. I looked at model numbers. Probably a dozen are R43RTE1190BA (70 / 12 volt); other model numbers were R43RTN1190A, R73RTN3100A R43RTE1190AA. Do I have a gold mine or a bunch of boat anchors? 73 Don EBAY them! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Micors
Don Pomplun wrote: We have a bunch of Motorola Micor VHF radios just gathering dust. All were taken out of railroad service, so they operate in the 160 MHz range. So far I haven't pulled them out to see how clean they are. I'm first interested in opinions on their general value. This group seems like a good place to gather such info. I looked at model numbers. Probably a dozen are R43RTE1190BA (70 / 12 volt); other model numbers were R43RTN1190A, R73RTN3100A R43RTE1190AA. Do I have a gold mine or a bunch of boat anchors? One of the hardest parts of building a good repeater from a Micor is the control head removal and subsequent (re)placement of the Volume/Squelch controls. The Railroad Micor is a great candidate for building a 2 meter repeater because the interconnect/control board already has a good number of items that make repeater building less painful. If anyone is interested, here is the conversion of the Micor Railroad Mobile to a repeater: http://www.repeater-builder.com/rbtip/railroad.html Kevin Custer Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking for alignment data for TPL HMS
SKIPP: I've been trying to email you for 4 weeks, with no response... is there a problem with your email? Lance Alfieri - Original Message - From: skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 11:26 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking for alignment data for TPL HMS There are 3 TPL Manuals on my sonic page, one is for the low band version, another VHF High-band and the last UHF. www.radiowrench.com/sonic Requires the free Adobe PDF File Reader if you don't already have it installed. Enjoy, skipp skipp025 at yahoo.com nj902 wrote: Before I try contacting the manufacturer, I though I would ask the list if anyone might happen to have alignment instructions for a TPL HMS power amplifier. The full model number is PA3-1FG-HMS50. It came to me factory tuned to a 152 MHz paging frequency. It works perfectly, and appears to be a continuous duty product. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking for alignment data for TPL HMS
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are 3 TPL Manuals on my sonic page... _ skipp, Thanks for the link to your page. I found the three TPL files. This particular amp is a big one - rack mounted infrastructure component - with integrated power supply, alarms, etc. There is a picture of the HMS series and others here: http://www.wiscointl.com/tpl/index.htm Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking for alignment data for TPL HMS
Of course you know the history of where the name TPL came from ... don't you? Neil - WA6KLA nj902 wrote: --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are 3 TPL Manuals on my sonic page... _ skipp, Thanks for the link to your page. I found the three TPL files. This particular amp is a big one - rack mounted infrastructure component - with integrated power supply, alarms, etc. There is a picture of the HMS series and others here: http://www.wiscointl.com/tpl/index.htm Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking for alignment data for TPL HMS
At 03:16 PM 4/24/2005 -0700, you wrote: Of course you know the history of where the name TPL came from ... don't you? ---Ooooh, I do, I do! (don't forget I worked for the guy for a year or so) Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Come see us at Dayton 2005! We now offer complete Kenwood TKR repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] TPL (toilet paper line)
Neil McKie wrote: Of course you know the history of where the name TPL came from ... don't you? Ripped from the internet: To compete with the MOTRAC, GE introduced what many consider to be the greatest flop in two-way radio history, the GE Transistorized Progress Line or TPL. GE actually re-purchased many of the dysfunctional TPL's and supplied customers with the older tube-type Progress Lines that actually worked. Only the later iteration of TPL's (without the quirky delay-line modulators) were viable but the damage to the GE name took many years to correct. Thankfully, the MASTR-Pro and MASTR-II replaced the notorious TPL. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking for alignment data for TPLHMS
Oh yes ... you certainly do ... Neil Ken Arck wrote: At 03:16 PM 4/24/2005 -0700, you wrote: Of course you know the history of where the name TPL came from ... don't you? ---Ooooh, I do, I do! (don't forget I worked for the guy for a year or so) Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Come see us at Dayton 2005! We now offer complete Kenwood TKR repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking for alignment data for TPLHMS
At 03:26 PM 4/24/2005 -0700, you wrote: Oh yes ... you certainly do ... ---Whatever happened to him anyway? I lost track of him a few years after he was CE at the company in Torrance I worked for (this was after he left Pace). Is he even alive these days? Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Come see us at Dayton 2005! We now offer complete Kenwood TKR repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] TPL (toilet paper line)
Actually not. The TPL line of RF Power Amplifiers came from the initials of the guy who started TPL Communications 30 some odd years ago, Thomas P. Litty. I think his ham call was K6RAD (Ken, please correct me if I am wrong.) The original TPL is the earlier General Electric 2-way product referred to below ... and the first use, as I remember, of the GE BF-10/BF10A key. Hope this is at least partially used as cannon fodder for the Repeater-Builder web site ... somehow ... ;) Neil - WA6KLA Kevin Custer wrote: Neil McKie wrote: Of course you know the history of where the name TPL came from ... don't you? Ripped from the internet: To compete with the MOTRAC, GE introduced what many consider to be the greatest flop in two-way radio history, the GE Transistorized Progress Line or TPL. GE actually re-purchased many of the dysfunctional TPL's and supplied customers with the older tube-type Progress Lines that actually worked. Only the later iteration of TPL's (without the quirky delay-line modulators) were viable but the damage to the GE name took many years to correct. Thankfully, the MASTR-Pro and MASTR-II replaced the notorious TPL. --- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking for alignment data forTPLHMS
I just looked him up on www.qrz.com not there. There is a Litty who was born in 1923 ... could be Tom's father? Lives in Paradise, California. Tom was younger than me ... perhaps not by much but younger still. I think Tom was the first person to realize a tall camper on the back of a pick-up truck will not fit under a lower roof at a motel complex. Ken Arck wrote: At 03:26 PM 4/24/2005 -0700, you wrote: Oh yes ... you certainly do ... ---Whatever happened to him anyway? I lost track of him a few years after he was CE at the company in Torrance I worked for (this was after he left Pace). Ah yes, Pace ... :( Is he even alive these days? Ken Neil Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] TPL (toilet paper line)
At 03:36 PM 4/24/2005 -0700, you wrote: The TPL line of RF Power Amplifiers came from the initials of the guy who started TPL Communications 30 some odd years ago, Thomas P. Litty. ---Actually, wasn't his last name spelled Liddy? I think his ham call was K6RAD (Ken, please correct me if I am wrong.) --I don't remember. I think I heard him on the air a grand total of 1 time and that was when he was CE at Pace. A good friend of mine also worked at Pace at the time - Ken St. John. Gee, remember Pace? Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Come see us at Dayton 2005! We now offer complete Kenwood TKR repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] TPL (toilet paper line)
Neil McKie wrote: The original TPL is the earlier General Electric 2-way product referred to below ... and the first use, as I remember, of the GE BF-10/BF10A key. Hope this is at least partially used as cannon fodder for the Repeater-Builder web site ... somehow ... ;) It's not, it's available from the GE-MOTO site, which is where I ripped it from: http://www.gemoto.com/FM.htm Kevin Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] TPL (toilet paper line)
Remember Pace? Vaguely ... think that was the radio that had the built-in microphonic modulator ... yelling at the radio produced recoverable audio at the receiver. Knowing my 'collection' here I might have a Pace radio - if I find it, I'll ship it to you. Then you can frame it and hang on the wall. :) Neil Ken Arck wrote: At 03:36 PM 4/24/2005 -0700, you wrote: The TPL line of RF Power Amplifiers came from the initials of the guy who started TPL Communications 30 some odd years ago, Thomas P. Litty. ---Actually, wasn't his last name spelled Liddy? I think his ham call was K6RAD (Ken, please correct me if I am wrong.) --I don't remember. I think I heard him on the air a grand total of 1 time and that was when he was CE at Pace. A good friend of mine also worked at Pace at the time - Ken St. John. Gee, remember Pace? Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Come see us at Dayton 2005! We now offer complete Kenwood TKR repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] TPL (toilet paper line)
Remember Pace? Vaguely ... think that was the radio that had the built-in microphonic modulator ... yelling at the radio produced recoverable audio at the receiver. ---Hahahaa, yep that's the one! Man, you ARE an old fart, aren't ya? But in all fairness, it was only one cheap line they made that had that problem. Some of the later stuff was actually starting to be halfway decent. Post TPL that is :-) Knowing my 'collection' here I might have a Pace radio - if I find it, I'll ship it to you. Then you can frame it and hang on the wall. :) --When Pace went belly up, I bought several parts cabinets worth of parts from them. Mostly generic stuff (caps, inductors, coils, etc) but to this day, I still have several of their PL decks laying around somewhere. Some used Spenc's cylindrical resonators and others used a resistive code plug, ala Batwing. Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Come see us at Dayton 2005! We now offer complete Kenwood TKR repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] TPL (toilet paper line)
Kevin ... I looked at the site URL'd below ... The service shop bench picture near the bottom ... I remember those days except we didn't have the Motorola Station Monitor. We used either a Gertsch FM-6 (at the GE Shop) or the Motorola equivalent T-1020 version of the Gertsch FM-7 - both are hetrodyne frequency meters. Basic range is 20-40 MHz (Mc back then.) Think I still have at least one T-1020 somewhere ... Deviation was checked on Radio Speciality Deviation 'Scope. Seems I used to have two of those Dev' Scopes... but I guess they got 'loaned out.' Top shelf, left to right in the picture identifiable is the early a Bird Model 43 Wattmeter, I have (at least) one here one here; Motorola Portlable test set, later years; I preferred the Motorola TEK-5 Series Metering Panel (I have two of them here); looks to be a Heathkit V7A VTVM, I have three of them here; and the Motorola Station Monitor. In regards to the Heathkit VTVM, I found I have a Heathkit V6A and three V7A VTVM's upstairs in the garage. Got them all out, began to test them and get one going as I want a second VTVM on the north end of the 10' work bench for an extensive upcoming project. Ain't older test gear wonderful? Neil - WA6KLA Kevin Custer wrote: Neil McKie wrote: The original TPL is the earlier General Electric 2-way product referred to below ... and the first use, as I remember, of the GE BF-10/BF10A key. Hope this is at least partially used as cannon fodder for the Repeater-Builder web site ... somehow ... ;) It's not, it's available from the GE-MOTO site, which is where I ripped it from: http://www.gemoto.com/FM.htm Kevin Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] TPL (toilet paper line)
I couldn't let this one go by ... Ken Arck wrote: Remember Pace? Vaguely ... think that was the radio that had the built-in microphonic modulator ... yelling at the radio produced recoverable audio at the receiver. ---Hahahaa, yep that's the one! Man, you ARE an old fart, aren't ya? Ya, I guess so ... www.qrz.com has you born 15 years, less one month and two days ... after me ... But in all fairness, it was only one cheap line they made that had that problem. Some of the later stuff was actually starting to be halfway decent. Post TPL that is :-) Knowing my 'collection' here I might have a Pace radio - if I find it, I'll ship it to you. Then you can frame it and hang on the wall. :) --When Pace went belly up, I bought several parts cabinets worth of parts from them. Mostly generic stuff (caps, inductors, coils, etc) but to this day, I still have several of their PL decks laying around somewhere. Some used Spenc's cylindrical resonators and others used a resistive code plug, ala Batwing. Oh, you are referring to Spence's ME3 CTCSS tone oscillator - have several here in the collection. Which reminds me of an e-mail I need to send to Mr. Kevin ... Ken Neil -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Come see us at Dayton 2005! We now offer complete Kenwood TKR repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Micors
ANY Lobanders in that group ? like 45 thru 50 Mhz. ? something is up in the air right now being asked indirectly to help out when I have very little time right now seems kinda odd ? for me that is. Mark Holman[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.ab8ru.org Life Member A.R.R.L. - Original Message - From: Don Pomplun To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 12:44 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Micors We have a bunch of Motorola Micor VHF radios just gathering dust. All were taken out of railroad service, so they operate in the 160 MHz range. So far I haven't pulled them out to see how clean they are. I'm first interested in opinions on their general value. This group seems like a good place to gather such info.I looked at model numbers. Probably a dozen are R43RTE1190BA (70 / 12 volt); other model numbers were R43RTN1190A, R73RTN3100A R43RTE1190AA.Do I have a gold mine or a bunch of boat anchors?73Don Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] Antenna Specialists Antenna
Hello All, I just tore down a tower for someone and was given an antenna that was sitting in their garage, did not get any specs on it. The label is pretty much disintegrating but it says: Antenna Specialists, Made in Ohio USA, Model Number ASPF 701. If anyone is familiar with this antenna I would really appreicate it if I could ask you a few questions. Thanks, 73. Alexander KG4OGN Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] TPL (toilet paper line)
Neil, I remember them well! Glad we did not have many of them. Paul -Original Message-From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Kevin CusterSent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 5:26 PMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] TPL (toilet paper line)Neil McKie wrote: Of course you know the history of where the name TPL came from ... don't you?Ripped from the internet:To compete with the MOTRAC, GE introduced what many consider to be the greatest flop in two-way radio history, the GE Transistorized Progress Line or TPL. GE actually re-purchased many of the dysfunctional TPL's and supplied customers with the older tube-type Progress Lines that actually worked. Only the later iteration of TPL's (without the quirky delay-line modulators) were viable but the damage to the GE name took many years to correct. Thankfully, the MASTR-Pro and MASTR-II replaced the notorious TPL. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna Specialists Antenna
web site is http://www.antenna.com/ I imagine that they may have someone there who would know. Mark Holman [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ab8ru.org Life Member A.R.R.L. - Original Message - From: kg4ogn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 8:09 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna Specialists Antenna Hello All, I just tore down a tower for someone and was given an antenna that was sitting in their garage, did not get any specs on it. The label is pretty much disintegrating but it says: Antenna Specialists, Made in Ohio USA, Model Number ASPF 701. If anyone is familiar with this antenna I would really appreicate it if I could ask you a few questions. Thanks, 73. Alexander KG4OGN Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna Specialists Antenna
At 08:31 PM 4/24/2005 -0400, you wrote: Hello All, I just tore down a tower for someone and was given an antenna that was sitting in their garage, did not get any specs on it. The label is pretty much disintegrating but it says: Antenna Specialists, Made in Ohio USA, Model Number ASPF 701. If anyone is familiar with this antenna I would really appreicate it if I could ask you a few questions. Thanks, 73. --- A quick google turns up this: Decibel, ASPF701 BASE ANTENNA, Broadband fiberglass collinear UHF base antenna. 460-470 MHz, 250watts, 8.25dB gain. Harness with N male termination and ... http://www.ecwest.com -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Come see us at Dayton 2005! We now offer complete Kenwood TKR repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] TPL (toilet paper line)
Dawg gone Ken are'nt you a AARP member yet ? now I can get away ABT saying that just turned 50 last week ( snicker ! ) Mark Holman [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ab8ru.org Life Member A.R.R.L. - Original Message - From: Ken Arck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 7:06 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] TPL (toilet paper line) Remember Pace? Vaguely ... think that was the radio that had the built-in microphonic modulator ... yelling at the radio produced recoverable audio at the receiver. ---Hahahaa, yep that's the one! Man, you ARE an old fart, aren't ya? But in all fairness, it was only one cheap line they made that had that problem. Some of the later stuff was actually starting to be halfway decent. Post TPL that is :-) Knowing my 'collection' here I might have a Pace radio - if I find it, I'll ship it to you. Then you can frame it and hang on the wall. :) --When Pace went belly up, I bought several parts cabinets worth of parts from them. Mostly generic stuff (caps, inductors, coils, etc) but to this day, I still have several of their PL decks laying around somewhere. Some used Spenc's cylindrical resonators and others used a resistive code plug, ala Batwing. Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Come see us at Dayton 2005! We now offer complete Kenwood TKR repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna Specialists Antenna
Mark Holman [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ab8ru.org Life Member A.R.R.L. - Original Message - From: kg4ogn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 8:09 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna Specialists Antenna Hello All, I just tore down a tower for someone and was given an antenna that was sitting in their garage, did not get any specs on it. The label is pretty much disintegrating but it says: Antenna Specialists, Made in Ohio USA, Model Number ASPF 701. If anyone is familiar with this antenna I would really appreicate it if I could ask you a few questions. Thanks, 73. Alexander KG4OGN Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna Specialists Antenna
Several hits on Google if you plug in the model number Richard, N7TGB -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of kg4ogn Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 5:09 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna Specialists Antenna Hello All, I just tore down a tower for someone and was given an antenna that was sitting in their garage, did not get any specs on it. The label is pretty much disintegrating but it says: Antenna Specialists, Made in Ohio USA, Model Number ASPF 701. If anyone is familiar with this antenna I would really appreicate it if I could ask you a few questions. Thanks, 73. Alexander KG4OGN Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna Specialists Antenna
Mark; ASP / Antenna Specialist was purchased by Andrew and the antenna is still a production model. I have used several in amateur as well as commercial service. The specifications sheet is available at : http://www.wa8dbw.ifip.com/ASPD-701.pdf 73 Richard D. Reese http://www.wa8dbw.ifip.com - Original Message - From: Mark Holman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 8:38 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna Specialists Antenna Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] TPL (toilet paper line)
Neil, I also had one of the TEK-5 Metering panels where I worked. I used one of the portable test sets before that. I remember some of that stuff in that photo but my first service monitor was a CE-2, graduated from there to a CE-3 then to a CE-6 and finally a CE-50. I have a Bird 43 with a manufactures date of 1954! Forgot where I got it. Still have a couple of the portable test sets in my shop. Have not used them in years but they look important. Paul -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Neil McKie Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 6:17 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] TPL (toilet paper line) Kevin ... I looked at the site URL'd below ... The service shop bench picture near the bottom ... I remember those days except we didn't have the Motorola Station Monitor. We used either a Gertsch FM-6 (at the GE Shop) or the Motorola equivalent T-1020 version of the Gertsch FM-7 - both are hetrodyne frequency meters. Basic range is 20-40 MHz (Mc back then.) Think I still have at least one T-1020 somewhere ... Deviation was checked on Radio Speciality Deviation 'Scope. Seems I used to have two of those Dev' Scopes... but I guess they got 'loaned out.' Top shelf, left to right in the picture identifiable is the early a Bird Model 43 Wattmeter, I have (at least) one here one here; Motorola Portlable test set, later years; I preferred the Motorola TEK-5 Series Metering Panel (I have two of them here); looks to be a Heathkit V7A VTVM, I have three of them here; and the Motorola Station Monitor. In regards to the Heathkit VTVM, I found I have a Heathkit V6A and three V7A VTVM's upstairs in the garage. Got them all out, began to test them and get one going as I want a second VTVM on the north end of the 10' work bench for an extensive upcoming project. Ain't older test gear wonderful? Neil - WA6KLA Kevin Custer wrote: Neil McKie wrote: The original TPL is the earlier General Electric 2-way product referred to below ... and the first use, as I remember, of the GE BF-10/BF10A key. Hope this is at least partially used as cannon fodder for the Repeater-Builder web site ... somehow ... ;) It's not, it's available from the GE-MOTO site, which is where I ripped it from: http://www.gemoto.com/FM.htm Kevin Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna Specialists Antenna
Alexander, The ASPF-701 is listed in the Decibel Products catalog as a Base Commander omni fiberglass antenna for 460-470 MHz, with 8.5 dBd gain and a 10 MHz bandwidth. It's a current model that used to be sold under the Antenna Specialists label. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY Hello All, I just tore down a tower for someone and was given an antenna that was sitting in their garage, did not get any specs on it. The label is pretty much disintegrating but it says: Antenna Specialists, Made in Ohio USA, Model Number ASPF 701. If anyone is familiar with this antenna I would really appreicate it if I could ask you a few questions. Thanks, 73. Alexander KG4OGN Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] TPL (toilet paper line)
I had the same experience with a Quintron 75mhz transmitter,if you yelled into the ovened crystal area,you could be clearly heard. Too bad I was cursing out the boss who was listening 60 miles away at the other end as we were setting levels. I sure do miss that job! We were also a Pace/GESS/Kenwood/Uniden/Johnson dealer shop... Neil McKie wrote: Remember Pace? Vaguely ... think that was the radio that had the built-in microphonic modulator ... yelling at the radio produced recoverable audio at the receiver. Knowing my 'collection' here I might have a Pace radio - if I find it, I'll ship it to you. Then you can frame it and hang on the wall. :) Neil Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] TPL (toilet paper line)
Pyramid SVR 200 vehicular repeaters are the same or worse. I set some up to work with maratrac radios and when I keyed the svr 200 with no audio input or pl encode the deviation of the dead carier alone was 400 hz white noise these things were so microphonic I could have tied a string and can to the case and used it for a microphone. I called the factory and they told me it was the vco they use and it was normal. I would not even consider running something like this on the ham bands unless I was desperate. On the other hand the hardware platform and software/firmware were great just the rf part sucked. tom n8ies [Original Message] From: Q [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: 4/24/2005 10:29:39 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] TPL (toilet paper line) I had the same experience with a Quintron 75mhz transmitter,if you yelled into the ovened crystal area,you could be clearly heard. Too bad I was cursing out the boss who was listening 60 miles away at the other end as we were setting levels. I sure do miss that job! We were also a Pace/GESS/Kenwood/Uniden/Johnson dealer shop... Neil McKie wrote: Remember Pace? Vaguely ... think that was the radio that had the built-in microphonic modulator ... yelling at the radio produced recoverable audio at the receiver. Knowing my 'collection' here I might have a Pace radio - if I find it, I'll ship it to you. Then you can frame it and hang on the wall. :) Neil Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] TPL (toilet paper line)
... finally ... Neil Mark Holman wrote: Dawg gone Ken are'nt you a AARP member yet ? now I can get away ABT saying that just turned 50 last week ( snicker ! ) Mark Holman [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ab8ru.org Life Member A.R.R.L. - Original Message - From: Ken Arck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 7:06 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] TPL (toilet paper line) Remember Pace? Vaguely ... think that was the radio that had the built-in microphonic modulator ... yelling at the radio produced recoverable audio at the receiver. ---Hahahaa, yep that's the one! Man, you ARE an old fart, aren't ya? But in all fairness, it was only one cheap line they made that had that problem. Some of the later stuff was actually starting to be halfway decent. Post TPL that is :-) Knowing my 'collection' here I might have a Pace radio - if I find it, I'll ship it to you. Then you can frame it and hang on the wall. :) --When Pace went belly up, I bought several parts cabinets worth of parts from them. Mostly generic stuff (caps, inductors, coils, etc) but to this day, I still have several of their PL decks laying around somewhere. Some used Spenc's cylindrical resonators and others used a resistive code plug, ala Batwing. Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Come see us at Dayton 2005! We now offer complete Kenwood TKR repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
