[Repeater-Builder] Re: Poor Repeater RX

2005-05-21 Thread johnmichaelwelton
Alexander,

Motorola makes a preamp for their T43-T83 Mitreks that is inserted 
after some filtering on the front end. May be a better way to 
implement a rx preamp in your setup, and they're pretty cheap, bought 
a few recently for $25/each. Also, I agree with Glenn that separating 
the Mitrek decks into separate receive and transmit rather than doing 
the duplex mod is a much better approach for 2M on the Mitrek. 

John/N4SJW


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Alexander Tubonjic 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hello,
  Well here is one that cant be figured out locally, thought I would
 throw it to the experts. My high school radio club has recently 
made a
 few upgrades to our VHF repeater. We replaced the Ringo Ranger 
antenna
 with a Comet GP-9 Antenna, replaced the 9913 coax with Andrews 1/2''
 Heliax, and put a Mirage Pream inline. The problem we are having is
 mainly with the preamp (I think) 
   I will describe the setup and give all the specs first. The 
repeater
 Rx and Tx is from a 110 Watt Motorola Mitrek power out from the 
Mitrek
 is 50 watts. The power supply is an Astron RS-70M, Duplexer is a
 Sinclair Q202G (yes, it is properly tuned and working as it should)
 the antenna is rooftop on the schools theater building (the roof is
 about 75 feet AGL and the antenna is on an 8' mast pipe) there are 
no
 obstructions for at least 5 miles around. The preamp setup is as
 follows, it is after the duplexers and before the reciever. We have
 the preamp directly connected into the duplexer and a jumper going
 from the preamp to the Rx bulkhead on the repeater cabinet. The 
preamp
 has two settings, a higher gain and a lower gain setting, initially 
we
 had it setup to the higher gain setting but I went up today and
 switched over to lower gain and turned the power output to 30 watts.
   The problem we have is the Rx is not what is should be. It is a 
tad
 worse then when we were running the repeater at 15 watts without the
 Preamp. I would really like to get the preamp to work like it should
 in the repeater system, I just dont have any ideas on what to do 
next
 to get better sensitivity on the machine. Any thoughts and ideas 
would
 be appreciated. Thanks.
 Alexander KG4OGN
 
  P.s, all jumpers are made with double shielded ridgid coax, so 
thats
 not the cause of the problem.






 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: RB Antennas

2005-05-21 Thread kc7gf




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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Poor Repeater RX

2005-05-21 Thread Al
Where did you buy the Mitrek rx preamp?

- Original Message - 
From: johnmichaelwelton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 9:23 AM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Poor Repeater RX


 Alexander,
 
 Motorola makes a preamp for their T43-T83 Mitreks that is inserted 
 after some filtering on the front end. May be a better way to 
 implement a rx preamp in your setup, and they're pretty cheap, bought 
 a few recently for $25/each. Also, I agree with Glenn that separating 
 the Mitrek decks into separate receive and transmit rather than doing 
 the duplex mod is a much better approach for 2M on the Mitrek. 
 
 John/N4SJW
 
 
 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Alexander Tubonjic 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hello,
  Well here is one that cant be figured out locally, thought I would
 throw it to the experts. My high school radio club has recently 
 made a
 few upgrades to our VHF repeater. We replaced the Ringo Ranger 
 antenna
 with a Comet GP-9 Antenna, replaced the 9913 coax with Andrews 1/2''
 Heliax, and put a Mirage Pream inline. The problem we are having is
 mainly with the preamp (I think) 
   I will describe the setup and give all the specs first. The 
 repeater
 Rx and Tx is from a 110 Watt Motorola Mitrek power out from the 
 Mitrek
 is 50 watts. The power supply is an Astron RS-70M, Duplexer is a
 Sinclair Q202G (yes, it is properly tuned and working as it should)
 the antenna is rooftop on the schools theater building (the roof is
 about 75 feet AGL and the antenna is on an 8' mast pipe) there are 
 no
 obstructions for at least 5 miles around. The preamp setup is as
 follows, it is after the duplexers and before the reciever. We have
 the preamp directly connected into the duplexer and a jumper going
 from the preamp to the Rx bulkhead on the repeater cabinet. The 
 preamp
 has two settings, a higher gain and a lower gain setting, initially 
 we
 had it setup to the higher gain setting but I went up today and
 switched over to lower gain and turned the power output to 30 watts.
   The problem we have is the Rx is not what is should be. It is a 
 tad
 worse then when we were running the repeater at 15 watts without the
 Preamp. I would really like to get the preamp to work like it should
 in the repeater system, I just dont have any ideas on what to do 
 next
 to get better sensitivity on the machine. Any thoughts and ideas 
 would
 be appreciated. Thanks.
 Alexander KG4OGN
 
  P.s, all jumpers are made with double shielded ridgid coax, so 
 thats
 not the cause of the problem.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Poor Repeater RX

2005-05-21 Thread johnmichaelwelton
Probably any used commercial vendor will have them. I mostly use Bob 
Parker, he took over from Bud Wolfe. See the repeater builders web 
page for a list of vendors:

http://www.repeater-builder.com/rbtip/supplyindex.html

John/N4SJW

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Al [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Where did you buy the Mitrek rx preamp?
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: johnmichaelwelton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 9:23 AM
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Poor Repeater RX
 
 
  Alexander,
  
  Motorola makes a preamp for their T43-T83 Mitreks that is 
inserted 
  after some filtering on the front end. May be a better way to 
  implement a rx preamp in your setup, and they're pretty cheap, 
bought 
  a few recently for $25/each. Also, I agree with Glenn that 
separating 
  the Mitrek decks into separate receive and transmit rather than 
doing 
  the duplex mod is a much better approach for 2M on the Mitrek. 
  
  John/N4SJW
  
  
  --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Alexander Tubonjic 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
   Well here is one that cant be figured out locally, thought I 
would
  throw it to the experts. My high school radio club has recently 
  made a
  few upgrades to our VHF repeater. We replaced the Ringo Ranger 
  antenna
  with a Comet GP-9 Antenna, replaced the 9913 coax with Andrews 
1/2''
  Heliax, and put a Mirage Pream inline. The problem we are having 
is
  mainly with the preamp (I think) 
I will describe the setup and give all the specs first. The 
  repeater
  Rx and Tx is from a 110 Watt Motorola Mitrek power out from the 
  Mitrek
  is 50 watts. The power supply is an Astron RS-70M, Duplexer is a
  Sinclair Q202G (yes, it is properly tuned and working as it 
should)
  the antenna is rooftop on the schools theater building (the roof 
is
  about 75 feet AGL and the antenna is on an 8' mast pipe) there 
are 
  no
  obstructions for at least 5 miles around. The preamp setup is as
  follows, it is after the duplexers and before the reciever. We 
have
  the preamp directly connected into the duplexer and a jumper 
going
  from the preamp to the Rx bulkhead on the repeater cabinet. The 
  preamp
  has two settings, a higher gain and a lower gain setting, 
initially 
  we
  had it setup to the higher gain setting but I went up today and
  switched over to lower gain and turned the power output to 30 
watts.
The problem we have is the Rx is not what is should be. It is 
a 
  tad
  worse then when we were running the repeater at 15 watts without 
the
  Preamp. I would really like to get the preamp to work like it 
should
  in the repeater system, I just dont have any ideas on what to do 
  next
  to get better sensitivity on the machine. Any thoughts and ideas 
  would
  be appreciated. Thanks.
  Alexander KG4OGN
  
   P.s, all jumpers are made with double shielded ridgid coax, so 
  thats
  not the cause of the problem.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Poor Repeater RX

2005-05-21 Thread Alexander Tubonjic
  Thanks for all the replies, lets see. We cant afford to get another
duplexer or another antenna, what we have stays. 
  The SWR on the antenna is about 1.3:1/1.4:1 
Regarding the dual Mitreks, the repeater was working fairly well
before, I was just wanting to get the preamp to function a little better. 
  I was talking with a friend about the setup and we are going to
headup to the repeater site Monday and take the preamp out of line and
see what the performance is like at that time (we installed the new
antenna and preamp at the same time) so we will see what the receive
is like without the preamp. Thanks again for all the replies.
  Alexander KG4OGN






 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Poor Repeater RX

2005-05-21 Thread Chuck Kelsey
You really should check for desense by disabling the TX while listening to a 
weak signal. If you have any without the preamp, you don't even want to 
consider adding the preamp back. You need to resolve the desense problem 
first.

Chuck
WB2EDV



- Original Message - 
From: Alexander Tubonjic [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 2:20 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Poor Repeater RX


  Thanks for all the replies, lets see. We cant afford to get another
 duplexer or another antenna, what we have stays.
  The SWR on the antenna is about 1.3:1/1.4:1
Regarding the dual Mitreks, the repeater was working fairly well
 before, I was just wanting to get the preamp to function a little better.
  I was talking with a friend about the setup and we are going to
 headup to the repeater site Monday and take the preamp out of line and
 see what the performance is like at that time (we installed the new
 antenna and preamp at the same time) so we will see what the receive
 is like without the preamp. Thanks again for all the replies.
  Alexander KG4OGN
 





 
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[Repeater-Builder] Mitrek PL (HLN4181 board)

2005-05-21 Thread JOHN MACKEY
OK Mike (WA6ILQ), I am reading on the repeater builder web site about the
Mitrek PL (HLN4181) board.  I have a 10 Meter FM remote base connected to my
repeater via an RLC-3 controller.  I CURRENTLY use the HLN4020 dual element PL
board in my 10FM remote base  am strongly considering swapping it for the
reedless HLN4181 board due to the ease of changing PL.  I know I could simply
put a Comm-Spec board in, but using the HLN4181 saves money (since have one
currently collecting dust) and it would give me reverse burst no metter what
tone I am using.  (Rev burst is nice because I occasionally access another
remote base across the countty during band openings, and our two remotes using
the same PL with rev burst is really nice!!)  I could simply set the reedless
board up with a couple of different tone options  switch resistor networks on
the fly. 

On the web site regarding the HLN4181 reedless board you state:
There is also an audio notch filter on the board to remove the received PL
tone from the received audio.   However it's a pretty poor design and you
don't want to try to use it in repeater service - just plan on using an
external high-pass filter between the receiver and your repeater controller

So, Mike, what exactly is the proble with the high-pass filter?  Is is any
worse that the other moto PL board high pass filters?

I know I could simply pick the audio off the discriminator BEFORE the PL
filter, but I don't do that.  I always use a PL filter BEFORE the audio goes
into my controller so the PL tone does not get repeated  cause other
problems.

Type away!!

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mitrek PL (HLN4181 board)

2005-05-21 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
At 02:33 PM 5/21/05, JOHN MACKEY K0SSF [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

OK Mike (WA6ILQ), I am reading on the repeater builder web site about the
Mitrek PL (HLN4181) board.  I have a 10 Meter FM remote base connected to my
repeater via an RLC-3 controller.  I CURRENTLY use the HLN4020 dual element PL
board in my 10FM remote base  am strongly considering swapping it for the
reedless HLN4181 board due to the ease of changing PL.  I know I could simply
put a Comm-Spec board in, but using the HLN4181 saves money (since have one
currently collecting dust) and it would give me reverse burst no metter what
tone I am using.  (Rev burst is nice because I occasionally access another
remote base across the countty during band openings, and our two remotes using
the same PL with rev burst is really nice!!)  I could simply set the reedless
board up with a couple of different tone options  switch resistor networks on
the fly.

You will need a 2-pole relay to do that - switch the two strobe pulses.

On the web site regarding the HLN4181 reedless board you state:
There is also an audio notch filter on the board to remove the received PL
tone from the received audio.   However it's a pretty poor design and you
don't want to try to use it in repeater service - just plan on using an
external high-pass filter between the receiver and your repeater controller

So, Mike, what exactly is the proble with the Mitrek high-pass filter?

It's a shunt gyrator design tuned to roughly 134hz.  Picture a series
LC network tuned to 134hz and shunted across the RX audio.

Is is any worse that the other moto PL board high pass filters?

Much worse.  The Mitrek is a low-Q notch, the Micor and Motrac
at least had real inductors in a true high pass / low cut filter.

Go yourself a favor - grab a Micor RX PL board or a GE M2 repeat
audio card (from a station shelf) and copy the highpass audio filter.

I know I could simply pick the audio off the discriminator BEFORE
the PL filter, but I don't do that.  I always use a PL filter BEFORE
the audio goes into my controller so the PL tone does not get
repeated

I with others would do that.

 cause other problems.

BTW look at
http://www.repeater-builder.com/mitrek/mitrek-interfacing.html#Audio_Out
for more tricks on Mitrek repeat audio (the link is into the middle of a
writeup on the Mitrek).

Mike WA6ILQ

PS - Note to John: do you think that Silke would do a writeup on
the RCA-700 interfacing? 





 
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RE : Re: [Repeater-Builder] Poor Repeater RX

2005-05-21 Thread Kevin K. Custer



--- Original Message ---From: Eric Lemmon[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 5/21/2005 4:05:15 PMTo  : Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comCc  : Subject : RE : Re: [Repeater-Builder] Poor Repeater RX Alexander,TheSinclair Q-202G duplexer can barely make 85 dB when tuned on a networkanalyzer, so that's the major part of your desense problem.  It's only afour-cavity duplexer, specified at 80 dB minimum isolation, so no amountof tuning is going to make it operate at an isolation above its designlimit.

While I don't disagree with what has been written, please realize that
*most* commercial manufacturers 'rate' their highband/2M duplexer at
500 kiloHertz split, not 600 kiloHertz where most amateur 2 meter
repeaters are operated. This added frequency separation allows
for the duplexer to provide more than the stated isolation at the 500
kiloHertz specification.

The Wacom WP-641 is specified at 85 dB of isolation at a 500 kiloHertz
split, but provides 93 dB of isolation at 600 kiloHertz. The
Sinclair Q202G is similar in its factory specifications, and isolation
provided.

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[Repeater-Builder] Low Power VHF (Ham) Radio Required.

2005-05-21 Thread Kevin Natalia





Hi Guys,and the Gals,

I am looking for a low power radio unit, to be used for a portable VHF, Ham 
repeater.
Power out needs only be 10 watts max, RX and TX in the one unit, easy to 
cahnge freq's when required, and ease of interfacing with a basic 
controller.

I have seen and read information on the Mitreks, but concerned when reading 
about dropping the power down too low. However these are crystal controlled, and 
do not change too quickly.
I did see somewhere about a "Ranger", but know nothing about this radio, 
and ease of conversion. :(

If anyone could guide me with any information, on what to use, and obtain, 
I would be grateful. :))

Of course with any Ham aquiring, we wish to keep the price down as much as 
possible. (Upfront about it)


Regards

Kevin, ZL1KFM.














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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38A connector

2005-05-21 Thread Russ Crisp



I may have an extra. Is this the connector that wires connect to that plugs into the Zetron?

Russ
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Re: RE : Re: [Repeater-Builder] Poor Repeater RX

2005-05-21 Thread DCFluX
Don't you mean, kiloCycles?

On 5/21/05, Kevin K. Custer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
 
 
 --- Original Message ---
 From : Eric Lemmon[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent : 5/21/2005 4:05:15 PM
 To : Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Cc : 
 Subject : RE : Re: [Repeater-Builder] Poor Repeater RX
 
  Alexander,
 
 The
 Sinclair Q-202G duplexer can barely make 85 dB when tuned on a network
 analyzer, so that's the major part of your desense problem. It's only a
 four-cavity duplexer, specified at 80 dB minimum isolation, so no amount
 of tuning is going to make it operate at an isolation above its design
 limit.
  
  While I don't disagree with what has been written, please realize that
 *most* commercial manufacturers 'rate' their highband/2M duplexer at 500
 kiloHertz split, not 600 kiloHertz where most amateur 2 meter repeaters are
 operated.  This added frequency separation allows for the duplexer to
 provide more than the stated isolation at the 500 kiloHertz specification.
  
  The Wacom WP-641 is specified at 85 dB of isolation at a 500 kiloHertz
 split, but provides 93 dB of isolation at 600 kiloHertz.  The Sinclair Q202G
 is similar in its factory specifications, and isolation provided.
  
  Kevin Custer
  
 
  
  
  
 
  
  
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RE: RE : Re: [Repeater-Builder] Poor Repeater RX

2005-05-21 Thread Richard
KiloHertz is the correct term!

Richard, N7TGB


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Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 7:17 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: RE : Re: [Repeater-Builder] Poor Repeater RX


Don't you mean, kiloCycles?

On 5/21/05, Kevin K. Custer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 --- Original Message ---
 From : Eric Lemmon[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent : 5/21/2005 4:05:15 PM
 To : Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Cc :
 Subject : RE : Re: [Repeater-Builder] Poor Repeater RX
 
  Alexander,
 
 The
 Sinclair Q-202G duplexer can barely make 85 dB when tuned on a network
 analyzer, so that's the major part of your desense problem. It's only a
 four-cavity duplexer, specified at 80 dB minimum isolation, so no amount
 of tuning is going to make it operate at an isolation above its design
 limit.

  While I don't disagree with what has been written, please realize that
 *most* commercial manufacturers 'rate' their highband/2M duplexer at 500
 kiloHertz split, not 600 kiloHertz where most amateur 2 meter repeaters
are
 operated.  This added frequency separation allows for the duplexer to
 provide more than the stated isolation at the 500 kiloHertz specification.

  The Wacom WP-641 is specified at 85 dB of isolation at a 500 kiloHertz
 split, but provides 93 dB of isolation at 600 kiloHertz.  The Sinclair
Q202G
 is similar in its factory specifications, and isolation provided.

  Kevin Custer







  
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[Repeater-Builder] Philips BFQ-43S

2005-05-21 Thread Don
Hello all Normally I can find things on the WWW, But I have had No
luck in finding a Data Sheet for the Following Transistor 


Philips BFQ-43SIf anyone has the Info Please E-mail Me direct
 

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[Repeater-Builder] Foxbat [harris]Repeater Info Needed

2005-05-21 Thread iamkd4hlh





Greetings, All
 I have acquired a portable repeater made by Harris Law 
Enforcement Products out of Melbourne, FL. It has a Icom IC-R1
Receiver, along with a Icom IC-2SAT VHF radio. I'm 
looking for any info on this unit. I think the model# is: 
HLE-FB-2601
 any info greatly appreciated!! Thanks, 
Mike

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Re: RE : Re: [Repeater-Builder] Poor Repeater RX

2005-05-21 Thread DCFluX
I've got a kiloCycle to kiloHertz conversion table you can study.

On 5/21/05, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 KiloHertz is the correct term!
 
 Richard, N7TGB
 
 
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 Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 7:17 PM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: RE : Re: [Repeater-Builder] Poor Repeater RX
 
 
 Don't you mean, kiloCycles?
 
 On 5/21/05, Kevin K. Custer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 
  --- Original Message ---
  From : Eric Lemmon[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent : 5/21/2005 4:05:15 PM
  To : Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Cc :
  Subject : RE : Re: [Repeater-Builder] Poor Repeater RX
  
   Alexander,
  
  The
  Sinclair Q-202G duplexer can barely make 85 dB when tuned on a network
  analyzer, so that's the major part of your desense problem. It's only a
  four-cavity duplexer, specified at 80 dB minimum isolation, so no amount
  of tuning is going to make it operate at an isolation above its design
  limit.
 
   While I don't disagree with what has been written, please realize that
  *most* commercial manufacturers 'rate' their highband/2M duplexer at 500
  kiloHertz split, not 600 kiloHertz where most amateur 2 meter repeaters
 are
  operated.  This added frequency separation allows for the duplexer to
  provide more than the stated isolation at the 500 kiloHertz specification.
 
   The Wacom WP-641 is specified at 85 dB of isolation at a 500 kiloHertz
  split, but provides 93 dB of isolation at 600 kiloHertz.  The Sinclair
 Q202G
  is similar in its factory specifications, and isolation provided.
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Low Power VHF (Ham) Radio

2005-05-21 Thread rs . gilmore

RANGR = one of GE's 'replacement' for the MASTR line ( $.05
answer)
It is programmable; typically as 16-32 channels, sometimes
64 or more; problem being that they were 'intended' for
simplex (ie PTT) ops -- single VCO, if you will.  Duplex ops
pretty-much means using 2 radios.
Heatsink isn't especially beefy either.  Overall, wouldn't
be *my* choice.

Then, of course -- duplexers and frequency hopping creates
another set of issues...  not to say there aren't solutions;
(separate antennas  LOTS of vertical separation...)  much
food for thought  experimentation.  ;-)

~/ RSG - N8BQN /~



Kevin  Natalia wrote:

 I am looking for a low power radio unit, to be used for a
 portable VHF, Ham repeater.Power out needs only be 10
 watts max, RX and TX in the one unit, easy to cahnge
 freq's when required, and ease of interfacing with a basic
 controller. I have seen and read information on the
 Mitreks, but concerned when reading about dropping the
 power down too low. However these are crystal controlled,
 and do not change too quickly.I did see somewhere about a
 Ranger, but know nothing about this radio, and ease of
 conversion. :( Kevin, ZL1KFM.





 
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[Repeater-Builder] Philips BFQ-43S

2005-05-21 Thread Don
Thanks to all who replied I did get the Info Data ,from A Gentleman
named Jerry 

Thanks Don KA9QJG 







 
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