RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Update--Chance of a Lifetime (kinda OT)???

2005-07-09 Thread Ron Wright
Steve,

On the property I would have a title company do a search on it.  This is
common when buying land or houses.  These people do searchs for leans,
debts, lawsuits, EPA issues, etc anything that might come to you if you
buy.  Would cost about $300, but think it would be wise.  Also you get an
insurance policy from them to cover things that could pop up later.

One acre is alot, but the location and shape is probably the reason for
selling...has no use for it other than radio site.

I wish I could find just a 300 ft hill here near me in Tampa Bay, FL.  Now
it would go for about $10-15 grand even in the boones.  Just in the last 2
years most properities have doubled.  Good when I sell my home, but bad
when I have to buy another one, hi.  With over 1000 people moving to
Florida each day one can see the demand.  We build a new school here in my
county each year at $5,000,000.

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Update--Chance of a Lifetime (kinda OT)???

2005-07-09 Thread Jamey Wright

We are on a former ATT site here and the owner had to have asbestos tiles
removed from the building.

Jamey Wright

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rich Garcia
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 6:40 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Update--Chance of a Lifetime (kinda
OT)???


Steve.. he seems oh so eager. Be really sure of why he is so eager to sell
with no apprasial.
Have you attempted to contact other apprasiers for a lower quote ? One VERY
important thing
to look into is an Enviromental Study. With many of the ATS Microwave Tower
Site sales (they had
bought them from ATT Long Distance years ago)one of the problems was fuel
tanks and batteries on site. Is there
a burried tank somewhere on the property, hidden ?? leaking ?? Did a former
tennant dump all of their lead acid wet cells
there years ago, possibly burried by a previous owner and then bought by
this poor guy who can't afford the clean up ?

Make sure they don't have a haz-mat situation that is going to cost him tens
of thousands to clean up
and he is trying to rid himself of the cost! If you buy it lock stock and
barrel that means you are buying
a clean up also! I am in the cellular industry and you will not believe what
we do for each and every site that we build on, not even buy just lease all
the checks and tests are costly but once bitten twice shy.

Rich

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Steve Matda
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 5:02 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Update--Chance of a Lifetime (kinda
OT)???


Well, after looking a little bit at the property, I decided the cost
of an appraiser plus the property was a little extreme--the appraiser
alone wanted $800-$1000.  I called the appraiser and told him thanks
but no thanks.  I then called the land agent and explained the
situation to him and told him I was going to pass.

He then offered me the property for $1000 with no appraisal
necessary.  I then said But you all only paid $500 for it back in
1970 to which he replied Ok, that's fair...I'll offer it to you for
$500.

At that point a real Holy Crap! moment ensued on my part...

After nailing him down on some details (like the road easement and
the power situation), I am on track to get 1 acre of property at 3000
ft elevation (about 1000 ft HAAT) for $500 with written road easement
and concrete block building with 3 20 ft commercial masts.  He still
has to get the proposal approved by his superiors, so I'm keeping my
fingers crossed they won't shoot it down.

It's been a very busy week!

Steve, KE4MOB

PS.  Paul: you were talking about assessed value to sale price ratio
of 8:1.  Mine's looking at close to 15:1 !!!


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Steve Matda [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Thanks to all who have responded.  I was able to obtain a plat
 showing the property from the utility company.  The plat does
specify
 a square parcel 208.7 feet on a side--1 acre completely enclosed
 within someone else's property. The plat shows the property
includes
 a building with a security fence and a 30 ft wide access road
 easement, along with a right of way for electric service.  There is
 no tower currently on site.  An abandonded state fire tower sits 30
 ft outside the parcel.  Tax records show an assessed value of $7500
 and a current tax rate of 60 cents/$100.

 I get the impression that this may have been an imminent domain
case,
 as the plat is marked Court Order-Acquired From and then the
 surrounding landowners name.  I do know that the tax records show
the
 surrounding landowners are a family who have created a corporation
 and then turned the land over to the corporation.  The land is
zoned
 conservation and recreation.

 At any rate...I have contacted a property assesor.  We'll see where
 that leads.

 Steve, KE4MOB


 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi Steve,
 
  My partner (Erik NY9D) and I purchased one of the former ATT
 microwave tower sites in Minnesota two years ago.  Our situation
was
 similar, we needed a site for a packet radio link and ran across a
1
 acre site with a 125 foot microwave tower on it and a 1600 sq ft
 building.
 
  We negoiated the site price with American Tower (who had
purchased
 this site from ATT) and finally agreed on a price. We did get a
 chance to see the site and the interior of the building and
reviewed
 the real estate data with the county assessor before we purchased
the
 site.(Important- know what you are buying before you buy it).
 
  We did purchase the site, but then found out all of the problems
 that.we did not identfy up front: 1) the access road to the site
 never had a written road easement, and the person who owned it
wanted
 $ 25,000 for us to use the road, 2) the road to the site was listed
 as a township road but when we drove up 

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater heard on Aviation Channel! HELP

2005-07-09 Thread Tom Manning





Matthew
 I hesitate to make the 
statements I am about to make. I worked in the aviation field with FAA for 
40+ years and have seen several problems you are having. One of the 
hardest to find was caused by a corroded pipe joint in an antenna mast. 
There an FAA freq was mixing with a commercial FM station andFM music was 
being broadcast to aircraft in a 25 mile radius. We solved this by using a 
DF and looking for the source. We could create our problem just by keying 
the FAA freq
 If as you are saying the 
repeater is being heard by aircraft then something is converting the repeater FM 
to aircraftAM. There is a possibility the aircraft radio is 
slope detecting the FM. Wish I could be of more assistance.
73 de Tom Manning, AF4UG

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Mathew Quaife 

  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 9:30 PM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater 
  heard on Aviation Channel! HELP
  
  Hi Mike, thanks for the tips, I will gather this up. I have found 
  that if I turn the power way down, it is not as bad. Someone had 
  mentioned to me that my power supply could be acting up, although it is only 
  drawing 22 amps on a 70 amp power supply, I suppose there could be an issue 
  there. As for a pattern, I have not been able to follow one as of yet, 
  it is very sporadic at this time. I will compile as much as I can before 
  he gets to the site. Thanks.
  
  Mathew
  Mike/k1eg [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
  



Hey Mathew I know it must be frustrating for 
you but you know there is something you could be doing to help Dave 
out.

1) Track the times it does this. Look for a 
pattern.

2) Record the temperature at the site, 
especially when it acts up. Both inside and outside temp and is the sun 
shinning on the antenna when it acts up.

3) Make a list of all Xmitters in a 15 mile 
range with frequency.

4) Note if this problem only shows up with one 
user or all users. Or do they have to be in a certain location for it 
to happen.

5) Make note what your old antenna was when you 
didn't have the problem vs. the new one and did you use a new connector for 
it? This checks to see if the antenna pattern has 
changed.

6) This maybe out in left field but is anybody 
playing with BPL in the area?

7) Nominal voltages on you supply when it 
doesn't act up and what they are when it does act up.

I can't think of anything else but I'm sure 
other people on the list will have some ideas to add also. Intermitant 
problems like this can be the hardest thing to track down so all info you 
can gather will help Dave.

73,
Mike, K1EG


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Mathew Quaife 
  
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 6:19 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 
  Repeater heard on Aviation Channel! HELP
  
  Well I think with Dave's knowledge and equipment, he might be able to 
  see what is going on. I'm certain he will find a number of my 
  mistakes as I call them. I'm a tinker with a dangerous plan. 
  I've talked with the EE Spectrum engineer at the aviation department, he 
  seems to think I am riding along something as well, another frequency or 
  something nearby. Hopefully there is an easy answer for it.
  
  Mathew
  Bob Dengler 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  At 
7/8/2005 12:21 PM, you wrote:Best bring the biggest hammer that 
you have. It's back at it. There has got to be something near 
here that is mixing. All morning it has been clean and now it's 
back to it's old tricks.MathewI say throw an 
isolator on the amp output. This is standard procedure for me 
anytime an intermittent spurious/noise problem shows up. It's also 
standard procedure for all my comm site installations.Bob 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater heard on Aviation Channel! HELP

2005-07-09 Thread Mathew Quaife



Hi Tom, you might be correct about this, it's a mystery. I've only got two actual reports, but is enough to casue alarm with the FAA. I've been in and out of this repeater so much I'm almost married to it. Hopefully Dave will be able to see something I was not able to see.

Mathew
Tom Manning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Matthew
 I hesitate to make the statements I am about to make. I worked in the aviation field with FAA for 40+ years and have seen several problems you are having. One of the hardest to find was caused by a corroded pipe joint in an antenna mast. There an FAA freq was mixing with a commercial FM station andFM music was being broadcast to aircraft in a 25 mile radius. We solved this by using a DF and looking for the source. We could create our problem just by keying the FAA freq
 If as you are saying the repeater is being heard by aircraft then something is converting the repeater FM to aircraftAM. There is a possibility the aircraft radio is slope detecting the FM. Wish I could be of more assistance.
73 de Tom Manning, AF4UG

- Original Message - 
From: Mathew Quaife 
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 9:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater heard on Aviation Channel! HELP

Hi Mike, thanks for the tips, I will gather this up. I have found that if I turn the power way down, it is not as bad. Someone had mentioned to me that my power supply could be acting up, although it is only drawing 22 amps on a 70 amp power supply, I suppose there could be an issue there. As for a pattern, I have not been able to follow one as of yet, it is very sporadic at this time. I will compile as much as I can before he gets to the site. Thanks.

Mathew
Mike/k1eg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




Hey Mathew I know it must be frustrating for you but you know there is something you could be doing to help Dave out.

1) Track the times it does this. Look for a pattern.

2) Record the temperature at the site, especially when it acts up. Both inside and outside temp and is the sun shinning on the antenna when it acts up.

3) Make a list of all Xmitters in a 15 mile range with frequency.

4) Note if this problem only shows up with one user or all users. Or do they have to be in a certain location for it to happen.

5) Make note what your old antenna was when you didn't have the problem vs. the new one and did you use a new connector for it? This checks to see if the antenna pattern has changed.

6) This maybe out in left field but is anybody playing with BPL in the area?

7) Nominal voltages on you supply when it doesn't act up and what they are when it does act up.

I can't think of anything else but I'm sure other people on the list will have some ideas to add also. Intermitant problems like this can be the hardest thing to track down so all info you can gather will help Dave.

73,
Mike, K1EG


- Original Message - 
From: Mathew Quaife 
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 6:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater heard on Aviation Channel! HELP

Well I think with Dave's knowledge and equipment, he might be able to see what is going on. I'm certain he will find a number of my mistakes as I call them. I'm a tinker with a dangerous plan. I've talked with the EE Spectrum engineer at the aviation department, he seems to think I am riding along something as well, another frequency or something nearby. Hopefully there is an easy answer for it.

Mathew
Bob Dengler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 7/8/2005 12:21 PM, you wrote:Best bring the biggest hammer that you have. It's back at it. There has got to be something near here that is mixing. All morning it has been clean and now it's back to it's old tricks.MathewI say throw an isolator on the amp output. This is standard procedure for me anytime an intermittent spurious/noise problem shows up. It's also standard procedure for all my comm site installations.Bob NO6BYahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/


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[Repeater-Builder] RLC-ICM

2005-07-09 Thread w6jll
Looking to buy an RLC-ICM interface for icom 901 to RLC controller. Need for 
new 900 
MHz site in Los Angeles area. Have tried mfr, but they are sold out and uniut 
is out of 
production.

Thanks

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Update--Chance of a Lifetime (kinda OT)???

2005-07-09 Thread Rich Garcia
I have a paging transmitter at a site and the tiles are all cracked and
smashed up into pieces from the moving of racks in and out of the 20X15
building. Remembering my haz-mat training from years ago on the rescue squad
I requested a site quality inspection and they found that the tiles and
mastic were indeed positive.

So far it's been 3 months and I have not been able to go to the site since
it has not been cleaned up. If the tiles are not broken up or ground up into
dust you can tile over them legally, it's safe till' someone shows up and
starts drilling in the floor to install equipment rack anchors!!

Rich

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jamey Wright
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 11:16 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Update--Chance of a Lifetime (kinda
OT)???



We are on a former ATT site here and the owner had to have asbestos tiles
removed from the building.

Jamey Wright

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rich Garcia
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 6:40 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Update--Chance of a Lifetime (kinda
OT)???


Steve.. he seems oh so eager. Be really sure of why he is so eager to sell
with no apprasial.
Have you attempted to contact other apprasiers for a lower quote ? One VERY
important thing
to look into is an Enviromental Study. With many of the ATS Microwave Tower
Site sales (they had
bought them from ATT Long Distance years ago)one of the problems was fuel
tanks and batteries on site. Is there
a burried tank somewhere on the property, hidden ?? leaking ?? Did a former
tennant dump all of their lead acid wet cells
there years ago, possibly burried by a previous owner and then bought by
this poor guy who can't afford the clean up ?

Make sure they don't have a haz-mat situation that is going to cost him tens
of thousands to clean up
and he is trying to rid himself of the cost! If you buy it lock stock and
barrel that means you are buying
a clean up also! I am in the cellular industry and you will not believe what
we do for each and every site that we build on, not even buy just lease all
the checks and tests are costly but once bitten twice shy.

Rich

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Steve Matda
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 5:02 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Update--Chance of a Lifetime (kinda
OT)???


Well, after looking a little bit at the property, I decided the cost
of an appraiser plus the property was a little extreme--the appraiser
alone wanted $800-$1000.  I called the appraiser and told him thanks
but no thanks.  I then called the land agent and explained the
situation to him and told him I was going to pass.

He then offered me the property for $1000 with no appraisal
necessary.  I then said But you all only paid $500 for it back in
1970 to which he replied Ok, that's fair...I'll offer it to you for
$500.

At that point a real Holy Crap! moment ensued on my part...

After nailing him down on some details (like the road easement and
the power situation), I am on track to get 1 acre of property at 3000
ft elevation (about 1000 ft HAAT) for $500 with written road easement
and concrete block building with 3 20 ft commercial masts.  He still
has to get the proposal approved by his superiors, so I'm keeping my
fingers crossed they won't shoot it down.

It's been a very busy week!

Steve, KE4MOB

PS.  Paul: you were talking about assessed value to sale price ratio
of 8:1.  Mine's looking at close to 15:1 !!!


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Steve Matda [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Thanks to all who have responded.  I was able to obtain a plat
 showing the property from the utility company.  The plat does
specify
 a square parcel 208.7 feet on a side--1 acre completely enclosed
 within someone else's property. The plat shows the property
includes
 a building with a security fence and a 30 ft wide access road
 easement, along with a right of way for electric service.  There is
 no tower currently on site.  An abandonded state fire tower sits 30
 ft outside the parcel.  Tax records show an assessed value of $7500
 and a current tax rate of 60 cents/$100.

 I get the impression that this may have been an imminent domain
case,
 as the plat is marked Court Order-Acquired From and then the
 surrounding landowners name.  I do know that the tax records show
the
 surrounding landowners are a family who have created a corporation
 and then turned the land over to the corporation.  The land is
zoned
 conservation and recreation.

 At any rate...I have contacted a property assesor.  We'll see where
 that leads.

 Steve, KE4MOB


 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi Steve,
 
  My partner (Erik NY9D) and I purchased 

[Repeater-Builder] 222 Mhz Duplexer Questions

2005-07-09 Thread Chris Williams W6NOB
I'm in need of a new 222 MHz Duplexer for my company sponsored club 
repeater. The guy that built and maintained our old box retired and took his 
toy's with him so the club has to replace it with a new one.

As I have not been in the market for a duplexer myself for over 10 years or 
so, I'm not up to date on who still makes duplexers for 222 and which are 
the better ones available. Are there any brands that should be avoided, for 
technical or business reasons?

I'd sure like to know if there are any thoughts on which types e.g. 
Bandpass, Notch, Pass/Notch or number of cans, etc.

The new repeater will run about 25 Watts output power and it will operate on 
a 1.6 MHz frequency offset. The RF environment it will be installed in will 
not be near any other in-band or adjacent-band transmitters that we know of.

My thanks to the group for your help in this matter.

73 de Chris W6NOB









 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] 222 Mhz Duplexer Questions

2005-07-09 Thread XE2SI





This is a good choice, I am in any way related with the 
seller.
Juan, XE2SI
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=5787657543rd=1sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AITrd=1

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Chris Williams 
  W6NOB 
  To: Repeater-Builder List 

  Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 1:27 
  PM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 222 Mhz 
  Duplexer Questions
  I'm in need of a new 222 MHz Duplexer for my company sponsored 
  club repeater. The guy that built and maintained our old box retired and 
  took his toy's with him so the club has to replace it with a new 
  one.As I have not been in the market for a duplexer myself for over 10 
  years or so, I'm not up to date on who still makes duplexers for 222 and 
  which are the better ones available. Are there any brands that should be 
  avoided, for technical or business reasons?I'd sure like to know 
  if there are any thoughts on which types e.g. Bandpass, Notch, Pass/Notch 
  or number of cans, etc.The new repeater will run about 25 Watts output 
  power and it will operate on a 1.6 MHz frequency offset. The RF 
  environment it will be installed in will not be near any other in-band or 
  adjacent-band transmitters that we know of.My thanks to the group for 
  your help in this matter.73 de Chris 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] 222 Mhz Duplexer Questions

2005-07-09 Thread Scott Overstreet
Chris

If you need to buy new for some reason, I suggest that you take a look at
the offerings of Telewave in San Jose Calif.. They make a full line of
duplexers and they are very good and reasonably priced and they offer a ham
discount. So long as you are working with corporate money, I would suggest
that you spring for a 6 section unitit will cost you about 0.7 dB in the
receiver and transmitter paths which in practical terms is negligible and
you will be well away from any problems with desense.

Scott, N6NXI



- Original Message - 
From: Chris Williams W6NOB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder List repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 1:27 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 222 Mhz Duplexer Questions


 I'm in need of a new 222 MHz Duplexer for my company sponsored club
 repeater. The guy that built and maintained our old box retired and took
his
 toy's with him so the club has to replace it with a new one.

 As I have not been in the market for a duplexer myself for over 10 years
or
 so, I'm not up to date on who still makes duplexers for 222 and which are
 the better ones available. Are there any brands that should be avoided,
for
 technical or business reasons?

 I'd sure like to know if there are any thoughts on which types e.g.
 Bandpass, Notch, Pass/Notch or number of cans, etc.

 The new repeater will run about 25 Watts output power and it will operate
on
 a 1.6 MHz frequency offset. The RF environment it will be installed in
will
 not be near any other in-band or adjacent-band transmitters that we know
of.

 My thanks to the group for your help in this matter.

 73 de Chris W6NOB










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Re: [Repeater-Builder] 222 Mhz Duplexer Questions

2005-07-09 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
At 03:08 PM 7/9/05, you wrote:

Chris

If you need to buy new for some reason, I suggest that you take a look at
the offerings of Telewave in San Jose Calif.. They make a full line of
duplexers and they are very good and reasonably priced and they offer a ham
discount. So long as you are working with corporate money, I would suggest
that you spring for a 6 section unitit will cost you about 0.7 dB in the
receiver and transmitter paths which in practical terms is negligible and
you will be well away from any problems with desense.

Scott, N6NXI

I second the Telewave endorsement, with one caveat... get the 6-can unit,
plus any brackets/hardware you need to mount it into a 19 rack, and if
you can swing it, and your repeater controller has analog inputs, get the
remote power/swr sensing option.  This option gives you two meter
outputs, one for forward power and one for reverse power.   You can get
the same thing from Bird - a rack panel with two line sections mounted
to it (a line section is what a Bird slug fits into, and gives the DC output
that is fed to a meter)

Mike  





 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Anybody have the ability to scan microfiche?

2005-07-09 Thread Glenn Little WB4UIV
I also have the LBI library on microfiche. I have copied some at the 
library onto paper, but the quality is not real good. I suspect that the 
microfiche is not going to produce great PDF files, but much better than 
nothing. My set is also available for reproduction to PDF. I have been 
looking for more than a year now for a scanner that has the resolution to 
scan the microfiche, but have had no luck. When I attempted to scan one at 
2400 dpi optical as if it were a negative, the results were almost unreadable.

73
Glenn
WB4UIV

At 06:29 PM 07/09/05, you wrote:
I received an email that presents an interesting possibility...

  Mike
  I don't know if you would be interested of not.  I have a set of 
 the old
  LBI library on microfiche.  I have no way of transferring them but I would
  be glad to make them available to someone who can.

I've had enough emails referencing the LBI list web page and asking
if I have Mastr-Pro or even Progress line equipment LBIs that the
above offer is interesting.

So - - -
anybody have access to a system that can scan a microfiche
and make a PDF out of it?

Mike WA6ILQ






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[Repeater-Builder] VXR7000 Manual

2005-07-09 Thread l_digit
If someone needs a manual try this url 
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[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Builder Hats

2005-07-09 Thread Kevin Custer
A few weeks ago I had posted the availability of another run of Official 
Repeater Builder hats.  I have about 5 left unspoken for.  If you would 
like to purchase a hat, email me directly.  First come first served...

The Repeater Builder hats are $16.00 in single quantities and $15.00 for 
two or more.
Shipping is $4.00 for up to two hats.

Custom call sign embroidery is $9 additional per hat, regardless of 
quantity.  This is done on the back of the hat, and looks real nice.

The total would be $29 for the custom hat or $20 for a regular hat with 
no call sign, shipped.

kuggie (at) kuggie  dot  com

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[Repeater-Builder] Micro UHF trippler

2005-07-09 Thread n9eerptr
Does anyone have a good source for the transistors/variactor in the 
Motorola Micro trippler module.  I have a couple in need of repair.

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[Repeater-Builder] Aviation Interference Issue (Update)

2005-07-09 Thread Mathew Quaife
First I would like to thank Dave from Muncie, IN and his father for 
coming out and assisting with the beast of a nuisance.  It seems there 
is some very critical coils inside the exciter, that has very little 
tolerance.  A slight movement and the thing goes whacko.  All that can 
be done now is to watch the output of the exciter on the SA and watch 
for any spurs.  When he started, and I have to admit, I made some 
adjustments on the exciter over the past few days, but there was spurs 
that did more than jangle, they sang all over.

As well I would like to thank everyone that had input on this issue.  
I'm certain it will be visited a few more times, but hopefully not 
often if it should.  Lots of good information and suggestions came out 
of it.  I'm glad it was the exciter and not a mix, a much easier fix.

Thanks again.

Mathew






 
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[Repeater-Builder] Quintron DigiCap FM exciter

2005-07-09 Thread radio questions



Hello all im new to this group, and I am trying to locate some Quintron Info.
I have a Quintron DigiCap FM exciter
with a Daul Channel FSK
it is a diode matrix for the Freq from A , B and 0 -12
set up like this
 Ch1 1lo 1hi
A
B
0
1
2
3
4
5
6
etc 
also has two jumper JW1 a/b and JW2 a/b

Im trying to find out what configuration gives me what frequencies
which is the multiplier etc.. any help on this CARD please let me know thank you for your help
Byron
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Aviation Interference Issue (Update)

2005-07-09 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Based on your findings, if it were me, I'd scrap the exciter for something 
more reliable -- like a GE Mastr II/MVP or a Motorola Micor. Sounds like 
what you've got is going to come back and bite you in the rear again.

Chuck
WB2EDV



- Original Message - 
From: Mathew Quaife [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 10:25 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Aviation Interference Issue (Update)


 First I would like to thank Dave from Muncie, IN and his father for
 coming out and assisting with the beast of a nuisance.  It seems there
 is some very critical coils inside the exciter, that has very little
 tolerance.  A slight movement and the thing goes whacko.  All that can
 be done now is to watch the output of the exciter on the SA and watch
 for any spurs.  When he started, and I have to admit, I made some
 adjustments on the exciter over the past few days, but there was spurs
 that did more than jangle, they sang all over.

 As well I would like to thank everyone that had input on this issue.
 I'm certain it will be visited a few more times, but hopefully not
 often if it should.  Lots of good information and suggestions came out
 of it.  I'm glad it was the exciter and not a mix, a much easier fix.

 Thanks again.

 Mathew







 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TM-541 service manual needed...

2005-07-09 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi Mike

I have a Instruction Manual for the TM-241a/241e,441a, 541a.
I has block diagram and schematic on a sheet that is about
16 X 12 inches. ( very small lines )
I could get Kinkos to maybe blow it up.

Is this of any help.

73
Dick
WB6DNX

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Quintron DigiCap FM exciter

2005-07-09 Thread Paul Finch





Byron,

What 
model it it, I probably have a manual for it. Is it a "B" or "C" 
exciter? If it is a diode matrix it's has to be a "B" exciter, the 
frequency is set on the matrix board. Does it have a high stab Ovenaire 
ovenized oscillator on the right hand side of the backplane? Are there 
about five cards mounted verticallyto the leftand two or three 
smaller cards mounted horizontally over the Ovenaire oscillator oven? If 
that sounds familiar it's a "B" exciter, it will do simulcast analog audio if 
you have a good delay brick of some kind.

Let me 
know what you have, like I said I probably have a book. You will need it 
if you have never worked on one before. 

Paul


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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of radio 
  questionsSent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 9:09 PMTo: 
  Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: [Repeater-Builder] 
  Quintron DigiCap FM exciter
  Hello all im new to this group, and I am trying to locate some Quintron 
  Info.
  I have a Quintron DigiCap FM exciter
  with a Daul Channel FSK
  it is a diode matrix for the Freq from A , B and 0 -12
  set up like this
   Ch1 
  1lo 1hi
  A
  B
  0
  1
  2
  3
  4
  5
  6
  etc 
  also has two jumper JW1 a/b and JW2 a/b
  
  Im trying to find out what configuration gives me what frequencies
  which is the multiplier etc.. any help on this CARD please let me know 
  thank you for your help
  Byron
  
  
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Aviation Interference Issue (Update)

2005-07-09 Thread Mike/k1eg
Great news Mathew and well done to Dave and his father for solving this
problem.

73,
Mike, K1EG

- Original Message - 
From: Mathew Quaife [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 9:25 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Aviation Interference Issue (Update)


 First I would like to thank Dave from Muncie, IN and his father for
 coming out and assisting with the beast of a nuisance.  It seems there
 is some very critical coils inside the exciter, that has very little
 tolerance.  A slight movement and the thing goes whacko.  All that can
 be done now is to watch the output of the exciter on the SA and watch
 for any spurs.  When he started, and I have to admit, I made some
 adjustments on the exciter over the past few days, but there was spurs
 that did more than jangle, they sang all over.

 As well I would like to thank everyone that had input on this issue.
 I'm certain it will be visited a few more times, but hopefully not
 often if it should.  Lots of good information and suggestions came out
 of it.  I'm glad it was the exciter and not a mix, a much easier fix.

 Thanks again.

 Mathew







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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Aviation Interference Issue (Update)

2005-07-09 Thread Mark A. Holman
Gang ;
  I have some Moto Gear on Ebay just sold a Mara Trac  a Max 
Trac 300 , Now a Max Trac and sometime future wise I think its a Syntor  VHF 
BTW , and a few speakers, and a Remote just sold ,  have more stuff to sell, 
well its 12:39am. my time in MI.  its under my call AB8RU .

drop in every day for updated list !

AB8RU  Mark
http://www.ab8ru.org

the Ham Radio Fest thats on line no tickets to buy, no parking.
all from the comfy or yer chair !
73


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From: Chuck Kelsey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 10:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Aviation Interference Issue (Update)


 Based on your findings, if it were me, I'd scrap the exciter for something
 more reliable -- like a GE Mastr II/MVP or a Motorola Micor. Sounds like
 what you've got is going to come back and bite you in the rear again.

 Chuck
 WB2EDV



 - Original Message - 
 From: Mathew Quaife [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 10:25 PM
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Aviation Interference Issue (Update)


 First I would like to thank Dave from Muncie, IN and his father for
 coming out and assisting with the beast of a nuisance.  It seems there
 is some very critical coils inside the exciter, that has very little
 tolerance.  A slight movement and the thing goes whacko.  All that can
 be done now is to watch the output of the exciter on the SA and watch
 for any spurs.  When he started, and I have to admit, I made some
 adjustments on the exciter over the past few days, but there was spurs
 that did more than jangle, they sang all over.

 As well I would like to thank everyone that had input on this issue.
 I'm certain it will be visited a few more times, but hopefully not
 often if it should.  Lots of good information and suggestions came out
 of it.  I'm glad it was the exciter and not a mix, a much easier fix.

 Thanks again.

 Mathew








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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Aviation Interference Issue (Update)

2005-07-09 Thread Dave VanHorn
At 09:25 PM 7/9/2005, Mathew Quaife wrote:
First I would like to thank Dave from Muncie, IN and his father for
coming out and assisting with the beast of a nuisance.

Glad to do it, and glad to meet you!

It was an interesting situation. After all the theories, the facts 
turned out to be thankfully simple.

I've just got home, after being on the road for the last 18 hours, so 
I hope this is reasonably coherent :)

The maggiore exciter was not outputting a spur.  It was more like a 
comb generator. Bunches of them all over the place.
Sort of a spread spectrum approach, say from DC to about 350 MHz.

Matt didn't have any easy way to couple his test gear into the 
system, so he couldn't see this, but I've left a line sampler with 
him to make that relatively easy.

This behavior can be tuned out in the exciter, but it varies with 
supply voltage, and we were able to find some tuning points that were 
bad all the time, and some that were bad for only a few seconds after 
keyup.  This appears to be a situation where the change in loading on 
the astron supply caused just enough voltage drift to take it in and 
out of the problem area.

Matt's system is set up with diode transfer between the Astron and 
the batteries, rather than having the battries float charged by the 
power supply and sitting in parallel with the load. This probably 
caused some of the comings and goings of the problem.

The exciter was also sensitive to the load impedance changes, but 
tuning the final a bit seems to have minimized that.
We replaced a long coax attenuator with a short N connector 3dB pad, 
which I just happened to find at the Indy Hamfest this AM.
That should provide a more flat resistive load than the coax would, 
plus it's less bulky.

Thinking on this on the way home, I think between cans 3,4, and 5 in 
the exciter, there is a problem.
It may be a bad solder joint, and it may or may not be visibly bad.
I'd be very tempted to replace everything in that area with new 
parts, except probably the inductors.
While it would be interesting to know the exact fault, it's not 
really necessary, and the parts are likely only a couple dollars.
I'd put my money on a failing transistor first, but then it becomes a 
random guess really, at shifted resistance values, cracked ceramic 
caps, or who knows what.

  It seems there is some very critical coils inside the exciter, 
 that has very little
tolerance.  A slight movement and the thing goes whacko.

About 1/16th of a turn, from a couple of spurs at -60dBc to 
WAHoooOO! and back to quiet, and that point seems to move around as 
the loading on the power supply changes.

Check the exciter schematic, does it internally regulate the 
voltages? If not, that might be a very useful mod.
The Daniels modules use a regulated 9.5V to feed all the modules, and 
they internally regulate to 6V in each module, so that there's no 
passing of noise between modules on the 9.5V bus.


  I'm glad it was the exciter and not a mix, a much easier fix.

Indeed, sometimes these things are pretty nasty.

It's not dead yet, but Matt knows where it lives now, and I think 
he's got a good handle on getting rid of it permanently.

FWIW, the system was very nicely done.  Well organized, and good 
craftsmanship all around.

I'll cut out a piece of that foam for you tomorrow, and mail monday.
I'm sending a chunk of MosFoam, a very effective RF absorber that I 
use in boxes that might have unwanted RF flying around.
Enclosed in a ziplock bag, it's completely safe for the system, and 
it can help a great deal in cutting down RF in tight enclosures.






 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] QRZ Database

2005-07-09 Thread Mark A. Holman





Have you changed anything on 
your computer ( or did another user change a setting ) ? 
sometimes a security setting may been changed. if a setting is more 
restricted , thats the first area to look at , especially if you have a net 
sitter software, and the like.

Win XP all the way to 95 have 
settings in similarity for IE. 

73 
AB8RU
Mark A. Holman AB8RU ARRL Life Member[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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  W7FDF 
  To: Repeater-Builder 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 2:43 
PM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] QRZ 
  Database
  
  
  Anyone 
  have any ideas why the QRZ Database website has been “offline” the past couple 
  of days???
  
  Doug 
  W7FDF
  Vail, 
  Arizona








  
  





  
  
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