[Repeater-Builder] Noise on RX when CTCSS LED flickers (RC210)
I'm not sure if the group members of the RC210 group remembers several weeks back me mentioning about hearing noise on the RX when the CTCSS LED is barely flickering. What happens is the repeater will be idle. The CTCSS LED is flickering...even just a little bit. If anyone keys up...there is a background stratching noise (almost like a weak signal) that will be there. Even with the ID (noise on the ID). I thought (and several of you) it was the TS32 board that I had in the GE Mastr II. I took the power off of the tone board...thinking that would at least cure it till I could get around to fixing it. No The LED would still flicker and would have noise on the tx signal. I keyed up the local mic on the repeater...noise was still there. I unplugged the db9 going from the radio and the controller...noise went away. Now...the noise will sometimes go away while a user is using the repeater and stay gone for quite awhile. When it sits idle...about 75% time will have noise on it when keyed up. Ideas? Thanks, Robert Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Micor VHF High Band Repeater Amplifier
GM, Would anyone have by chance a Motorola Micor VHF High Band repeater final amplifier, part number C53RCB-3105AT, 60-watts, PL with unified chassis? If so, please e-mail me off list. A C43, C63 or C73 would also work. Tnx, W1CG, Chas Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor VHF High Band Repeater Amplifier
For what frequency range? 162-174 MHz, yes! Neil - WA6KLA Charles Greene wrote: GM, Would anyone have by chance a Motorola Micor VHF High Band repeater final amplifier, part number C53RCB-3105AT, 60-watts, PL with unified chassis? If so, please e-mail me off list. A C43, C63 or C73 would also work. Tnx, W1CG, Chas Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Looking for GE 4EF5A1 tube Amp
I'm looking for a GE 4EF5A1 330w tube amp for our VHF voting system. Thanks from Bruno Bouliane VE2VK.VE2RVK 146.865mhz- 141.3hz 53.030mhz- 141.3hz 443.600mhz+ 141.3hz 442.500mhz+ 141.3hz VE2RYM442.550mhz+ 141.3hz 443.550mhz+ 141.3hz Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] TLN5731A / 5732A Micor UHF mobile PL encoder ??
Can anyone help me out with this one? I have a UHF Micor mobile T34RTA3000AA (450-470 range), exciter is TLE8423A. I have a manual but the closest model listed has a 'BA' suffix. The manual has a fold out page covering TLN5731A and TLN5732A PL encoder boards, but doesn't explain the difference between them. I found a picture of a TLN5731A, which obviously will NOT fit this radio. It has the mounting ears/screws on the opposite side of the board from the tone reed. They have to be on the SAME side as the tone reed to fit in this radio. Can anyone tell me the difference between the TLN5731A and TLN5732A... or tell me for certain what encoder fits the radio I have? I'm kludging in a TS32 for now, but would still like to sort out what encoder actually fits this thing. Paul N1BUG Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: ANI Options
you can use CDCSS in conjunction with MDC1200 ANI signaling, and I have a commercial VHF system using exactly that arrangement, right now. Consider MDC1200 to be like using telephone modem tones on the radio. MDC1200 is an earlier Motorola Format copied by some after-market mfgrs. ANI can be done in a number of different tone formats and styles. Another ANI format is the use of simple DTMF tones. A number of companies make really nice display decoders for such a function. Many newer software driven radios include the dtmf ani function. Some also include an MSK or MDC type of ANI option. The CTCSS/CDCSS squelch control is completely independent of the MDC1200 or compatible ANI, so there is no issue there. You may have to fine tune the code delay on the field units, so that the ANI code is not heard. It only takes 1/4 second, but some code may leak through. Another option is to greatly reduce the speaker audio during the ANI. Helps prevent missed words. ANI can also take place at the end of a radio transmission. cheers, skipp Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: DCS and Tone Code
Many of the popular ANI Detectors can/do connect direct to unsquelched audio sources in the receiver. The speaker audio doesn't have to be on or open to have the mdc function work. The mobile/portable keys, mdc or similar is sent out well before the distant radios speaker audio comes on/up at normal volume. There are cases to be made where voice audio is not sent as the ANI also has a status message included. It gets really crazy when the two radios must send and confirm the receipt of the signaling data as in some public safety applications. Kenwood has an ANI, Status and Message signaling system known as Fleet-sync in two versions. Other companies also offer similar products. Just enough going on to keep the average technicians brain cells in liquid format. cheers, skipp skipp025 at yahoo.com www.radiowrench.com Thanks for advices. May be I have to define the question more clearly: the DCS is for opening the squelch circuit, and tone code mentioned here is for ANI (Automatic Number Identification). What is the radio internal process to handle these two functions: does the squelch circuit require to be open so that the following ANI tone could be detected? Best Regards, Kent Chong Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Alpha 2000 radio and AP4800 Rptr controller
Hi can you send me the web address for this harris group? I'm running out of patient, I will appreciate it very much, thank you Rick Charlotte. - Original Message - From: Rick Charlotte [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: v44kaiy [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 12:13 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Alpha 2000 radio and AP4800 Rptr controller On 8 Nov 2005 at 19:14, v44kaiy wrote: Hi one and all, my name is Joel and my call is v44kai I'm from St. Kitts in the Caribbean. I have been reading the board for sometime, and I must say, there are many well experience repeater wi on this post. so I will like to express my appreciation for the many post that I have learnded from. (1)Is there anyone on this network who are familiar with the Harris Alpha 2000 radios VHF and UHF. Go to the Harris group on yahoo groups We have a chap that works on thoese radios and can answer most if not all questions for you Sorry I can not help you with the controller question Rick Rick,Charlote Kids Daisy , Sir Red-A-Lot Our Border Collie Message Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website www.karolinabc.ca Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/162 - Release Date: 11/05/2005 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Need GE1000 / 1000GE Key
Hi folks, Might anyone have one or two GE1000 / 1000GE cabinet keys they don't need? Mine was, sadly, misplaced. One would be great, two even better. (I can hide the second one somewhere I won't lose it!) If so, please contact me off list. Thanks 73, -Matt W6KGB GRONK Radio Net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Micor Manual 6881025E50 needed
Hi looking for a motorola manual part number 6881025E50 for a UHF Micor Repeater. Any help would be appreciated as Motorola obviously said it was too old. Mainly need back plane layout with pin ID as squelch is not working and not sure if there is a squelch disable function or pl disable. All backplane cuts have been repaired so it should be a stock backplane with all the jumpers now installed. Thanks Steve N4YZA Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Alpha 2000 radio and AP4800 Rptr controller
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/harris-radio/ On 9 Nov 2005 at 13:18, Joel wrote: Hi can you send me the web address for this harris group? I'm running out of patient, I will appreciate it very much, thank you Rick Charlotte. - Original Message - From: Rick Charlotte [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: v44kaiy [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 12:13 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Alpha 2000 radio and AP4800 Rptr controller On 8 Nov 2005 at 19:14, v44kaiy wrote: Hi one and all, my name is Joel and my call is v44kai I'm from St. Kitts in the Caribbean. I have been reading the board for sometime, and I must say, there are many well experience repeater wi on this post. so I will like to express my appreciation for the many post that I have learnded from. (1)Is there anyone on this network who are familiar with the Harris Alpha 2000 radios VHF and UHF. Go to the Harris group on yahoo groups We have a chap that works on thoese radios and can answer most if not all questions for you Sorry I can not help you with the controller question Rick Rick,Charlote Kids Daisy , Sir Red-A-Lot Our Border Collie Message Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website www.karolinabc.ca Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/162 - Release Date: 11/05/2005 Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/163 - Release Date: 11/8/2005 Rick,Charlote Kids Daisy , Sir Red-A-Lot Our Border Collie Message Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website www.karolinabc.ca Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor VHF High Band Repeater Amplifier
Meil, I think it's 134 to 156. The repeater transmit frequency is 144.45 MHz. Chas At 07:14 AM 11/9/2005, you wrote: For what frequency range? 162-174 MHz, yes! Neil - WA6KLA Charles Greene wrote: GM, Would anyone have by chance a Motorola Micor VHF High Band repeater final amplifier, part number C53RCB-3105AT, 60-watts, PL with unified chassis? If so, please e-mail me off list. A C43, C63 or C73 would also work. Tnx, W1CG, Chas Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] GM300 Squelch Adj.
OK thanks for that info. Now the next question is does anybody have a trick for opening up one of those radios? I got the screws out but that cover just dosen't want to come off. Andy KC2GOW Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor 412.XXXX repeater and Syntor X mobile
420-430MHz is the site-to-site /linking/ band here in SoCal, *not* a mobile relay/repeater subband. We've had active links on the band for about 40 years. Due to the concentration of radios in our area, it would neither be practical nor desirable to place repeaters in the 420-430 subband again. There actually were some repeaters in this subband many years ago, but these were all phased out by the mid-80s at absolute latest (to my knowledge). Things are rather complex here as well, beyond the raw numbers. A number of issues come to mind, some of the most important being transmitters receivers ending up 1MHz or even 100KHz from each other, should 420 'repeaters' be put at hilltop sites. It'd cause one big mess! Juggling link frequencies is plenty of work as it is. No site follows a single regionwide bandplan, but rather each site has its own bandplan. Other areas of the country have relatively little utilization in this subband. As such, I can see its appeal practicality in those areas. NorCal would have the same basic problem as SoCal. There's both a lack of real room a general incompatibility, since mobile relay operation is essentially counter to the purpose of this subband. It's good to experiment make use of equipment, but we should be careful courteous as well. 73, -Matt W6KGB The GRONK Radio Network At 02:47 PM 11/8/2005 -, you wrote: Hi Paul, Why not put them on the 420-430 MHz amateur band? Several states now have 420 MHz fm voice (non-atv) repeaters. Texas has six, Virginia has two, Ohio has two itinerent 420 machines that appear at Dayton Hamvention every year, and a bunch in SoCal is working to coordinate one now in the Los Angeles area. I have heard of several more under construction. My local machine is on 420.050 out / 426.050 in w/136.5 Hz tone. Been on the air for four years not without any interference issues with local ATV ops. 73, Mark Cobbeldick, KB4CVN Monroe, VA ALSO SEE: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AR420MHz-FM/ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] GM300 Squelch Adj.
take the 2 screws out of the front. the face panel will come off, and is attached by 2 connectors. once the front panel is off, the outer case should pop right off. the metal covers inside, will have to be CAREFULLY pried off with a flathead screwdriver. STEVE - KC8RSR [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kc8rsr.tripod.com/ AIM / YAHOO = KC8RSR ---Original Message--- From: Andrew G. Date: 11/09/05 18:14:41 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] GM300 Squelch Adj. OK thanks for that info. Now the next question is does anybody have a trick for opening up one of those radios? I got the screws out but that cover just dosen't want to come off. Andy KC2GOW Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group Repeater-Builder on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] GM300 Squelch Adj.
Since the radio is so similar to a MaxTrac, I'll assume it's enclosed the same way. Remove the two screws from the control head (T15) and the four flat-head screws from the sides (T10). Pull the control head off the covers, then pry the covers off. They're identical and split in the middle of each side. Sometimes they're hard to get apart, but nothing else holds them together. Usually you can get them going by starting in the front where the edge is exposed over the metal chassis. If this isn't how they're put together, I'll go have a look at my GM300 service manual, but I recall opening one a couple of weeks ago and it sure looks like a MaxTrac in this respect. Bob M. == --- Andrew G. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK thanks for that info. Now the next question is does anybody have a trick for opening up one of those radios? I got the screws out but that cover just dosen't want to come off. Andy KC2GOW __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] GM300 Squelch Adj.
Thanks a lot. That worked like a charm. I needed to lower the squelch as this is the receiver on my repeater. With the current setting, on a mobile station there is no swoosh, just chopping in and out. Again, thanks for all the replies. Andy KC2GOW 445.125 (4A) Staten Island,NY Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Using VOIP to control a repeater?
Hi I am very interested in voip to radio is there some good info in the mags. I am in oz and we can not get it here. Can recommend another source? Cheers Banjupb - Original Message - From: Mark A. Holman To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 9:38 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Using VOIP to control a repeater? if you are going to need a VOIP Connection for commercial application I may sugguest checking a Mag called Mission Critical I just got the recent issue and BTW FREE Subscription even the skinflints can afford that ! :-) lotta good stuff in there been a sub 4 well few yrs somewhere in the 90's mark h.Erik Finskas wrote: Coy Hilton wrote: If you have a couple of older computers that you wouldn't mind throwing at the project try using Echolink. You can have the link recover if it is dropped AND ONLY allow the "other" node to connect. like a private connection. If you don't know about Echolink ask around the local group and someone will fill you in. 73 AC0Y Just my two cents, I understood this is a commercial repeater, not ham radio, so echolink wont work as it requires registration of a licenced operators. .. Erik Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Using VOIP to control a repeater?
Good question...I get a printed copy of MRT Magizine, and it is available on the web as well www.mrtmag.com But I get a lot of trade mags... few of them are worth the paper they are printed on. I would be interested in checking it out if there is a weblink.. is there such a thing for mission critical? mike -Original Message-From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of BrettSent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 9:05 PMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Using VOIP to control a repeater? Hi I am very interested in voip to radio is there some good info in the mags. I am in oz and we can not get it here. Can recommend another source? Cheers Banjupb - Original Message - From: Mark A. Holman To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 9:38 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Using VOIP to control a repeater? if you are going to need a VOIP Connection for commercial application I may sugguest checking a Mag called Mission Critical I just got the recent issue and BTW FREE Subscription even the skinflints can afford that ! :-) lotta good stuff in there been a sub 4 well few yrs somewhere in the 90's mark h.Erik Finskas wrote: Coy Hilton wrote: If you have a couple of older computers that you wouldn't mind throwing at the project try using Echolink. You can have the link recover if it is dropped AND ONLY allow the "other" node to connect. like a private connection. If you don't know about Echolink ask around the local group and someone will fill you in. 73 AC0Y Just my two cents, I understood this is a commercial repeater, not ham radio, so echolink wont work as it requires registration of a licenced operators. .. Erik Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Looking for GE 4EF5A1 tube Amp
bruno i have a comlete 300w vhf mastr II base station. I'm not quite sure whether you are looking for a complete station or just the p/a. what about the power supply?? the station we have is $400 + shipping. it is of course in a 6 ft cabinet. allin mint condition we are near Chicago. call me Thursdayif interested. 708 681 0300 mdm tedBruno Bouliane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking for a GE 4EF5A1 330w tube amp for our VHF voting system. Thanks from Bruno Bouliane VE2VK. VE2RVK 146.865mhz- 141.3hz 53.030mhz- 141.3hz 443.600mhz+ 141.3hz 442.500mhz+ 141.3hz VE2RYM442.550mhz+ 141.3hz 443.550mhz+ 141.3hz Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Ted Bleiman K9MDM MDM Radio Ltd - 1629-B N. 31 st Ave Melrose Park, IL 60160 708.681.0300 fax 708.681.9800 web http://www.mdmradio.com - Check it now!! Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] TKR-820 Timeout Timer Problem - Frustrating!
Before you all banish me to the outer reaches of Mongolia - or somewhere else - because of all the questions I keep posing about this machine, please understand that I have tried to research this issue in the technical material I have available to me and I keep coming up empty. This is why I keep prodding. I know there is quite a wealth of knowledge here, so Im trying to tap into some of that knowledge That being said, heres the latest on this frustrating issue. I have a TKR-820 interfaced with a CAT-300 repeater controller. The CAT-300 operates fine, whether the internal controller is turned ON or OFF. The only issue I have is with the internal timeout timer. Previously, the repeater would shut itself down after 2-1/2 minutes when the internal controller circuitry was turned OFF. (REPEAT button OFF) The external controller was set for a much longer time, so I knew it wasnt the CAT-300 causing the problem. I went to the site a few days ago, and adjusted the TOT pot on the internal controller to its maximum (5 min). I then made certain that the external controllers TOT was set shorter (4 min) than the internal one worked just fine. (So I thought) I departed. Apparently, I departed prematurely. (No jokes here, OK? Hehehehe) Anyway, this evening I heard two stations using the repeater and at 5 minutes the repeater dropped. DAMN!! I went back out to the repeater site to trouble check some more. I found that if I unplug the external controller and have the internal REPEAT function turned ON, the internal controller controls the machine I expected this. (Not what I want!) If I unplug the external controller and have the REPEAT function turned OFF, the repeater does not repeat plug the controller back in, and the repeater works. (This IS what I want!) However, if I dont turn the REPEAT function ON, the repeater times itself out way too soon I presume that this is because of the INTERNAL timeout timer So, how do I totally disable the internal timeout timer? It is becoming more apparent that the timeout timer functions in two ways the first, as a repeater timeout timer (of course); but secondly, as a stuck mic timeout timer when the radio is in base station configuration (simplex operation) This has really frustrated me, and now Im on a quest to figure out just how to shut that damned internal timeout timer off once and for all. Any suggestions?? Can I just unplug the internal controller board altogether? Mark N9WYS YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-820 Timeout Timer Problem - Frustrating!
sounds like you need to try to rewire the whole system, separate the TX and the RX and wire them into the CAT 300 separately. i have never been fond of systems that use an internal controller. i would rather have 2 separate radios, one for TX and one for RX and tie them into the controller. just my 2 cents worth. 73 STEVE - KC8RSR [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kc8rsr.tripod.com/ AIM / YAHOO = KC8RSR ---Original Message--- From: N9WYS Date: 11/09/05 22:24:11 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-820 Timeout Timer Problem - Frustrating! Before you all banish me to the outer reaches of Mongolia - or somewhere else - because of all the questions I keep posing about this machine, please understand that I have tried to research this issue in the technical material I have available to me and I keep coming up empty. This is why I keep prodding. I know there is quite a wealth of knowledge here, so Im trying to tap into some of that knowledge That being said, heres the latest on this frustrating issue. I have a TKR-820 interfaced with a CAT-300 repeater controller. The CAT-300 operates fine, whether the internal controller is turned ON or OFF. The only issue I have is with the internal timeout timer. Previously, the repeater would shut itself down after 2-1/2 minutes when the internal controller circuitry was turned OFF. (REPEAT button OFF) The external controller was set for a much longer time, so I knew it wasnt the CAT-300 causing the problem. I went to the site a few days ago, and adjusted the TOT pot on the internal controller to its maximum (5 min). I then made certain that the external controllers TOT was set shorter (4 min) than the internal one worked just fine. (So I thought ) I departed. Apparently, I departed prematurely. (No jokes here, OK? Hehehehe) Anyway, this evening I heard two stations using the repeater and at 5 minutes the repeater dropped. DAMN!! I went back out to the repeater site to trouble check some more. I found that if I unplug the external controller and have the internal REPEAT function turned ON, the internal controller controls the machine I expected this. (Not what I want!) If I unplug the external controller and have the REPEAT function turned OFF, the repeater does not repeat plug the controller back in, and the repeater works. (This IS what I want!) However, if I dont turn the REPEAT function ON, the repeater times itself out way too soon I presume that this is because of the INTERNAL timeout timer So, how do I totally disable the internal timeout timer? It is becoming more apparent that the timeout timer functions in two ways the first, as a repeater timeout timer (of course); but secondly, as a stuck mic timeout timer when the radio is in base station configuration (simplex operation) This has really frustrated me, and now Im on a quest to figure out just how to shut that damned internal timeout timer off once and for all. Any suggestions?? Can I just unplug the internal controller board altogether? Mark N9WYS YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group Repeater-Builder on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor 412.XXXX repeater and SyntorX mobile
Matt (W6KGB), I remember back in the early 70's when I was in college, a couple of us guys made a long bus trip from Southern Oregon down to Fresno in May, just a couple of weeks after the annual Fresno Hamfest. 2-Meter Repeaters were just really catching on in the rest of the country, and there was a special FM West, I believe it was called, hamfest in Fresno. I remember Wayne Green from _73_ Magazine attended the event and spoke at the banquet. He was pushing 220 MHz at that time, and I still have a 220 MHz T-shirt that I got from him at the event. While we were there, I remember that we saw a GRONK van, with a wooden rack in the back that had about six Motorola Motracs in it (really high-tech stuff at that time!) and a bunch of control heads, speakers and mics up front, and the roof covered with antennas. Needless to say, we poor college students, who were barely able to afford a one-channel 2-Meter Motorola 80D were quite impressed! We still talk about it once in a while to this day. It was a great hamfest, and we went back to Oregon all enthused about putting up our own 146.94 Repeater, as soon as we could afford it. It was a great day when we bought an old Motorola Sensicon A receiver, the matching 60-watt transmitter and power supply, and built up a COR copy of the Motorola tube-type COR circuit (out of The Red Book.) Anyone who has been involved with Amateur FM back in the 70's will know what the Red Book and Yellow Books were. Of course, such luxuries like Heliax, Stationmaster antennas, Duplexers, etc. were out of the question. But the repeater was born. Most radios back then in our area (if you had a two-channel radio) had room for 146.76 Simplex and the 146.34/146.94 Repeater pair. In Oregon, there were four - 146.94 Repeaters across the State, and a ham group in Southern Oregon built up tone burst boxes - each repeater used a different tone burst. The hand-built, hand-tuned (hand picked capacitors for the oscillator using an 88 mh. toroid) units were sold for $25 each to the Southern Oregon Repeater Assn. members. I still have mine! There was one UHF Repeater in Oregon that I know of back then - across the State up in Portland. Please excuse the off-topic rant, just seeing the GRONK note reminded me of the fun we had when ham radio FM was just taking off, and how some of the Southern California people were really going all out with real high-tech installations. We could never have foreseen what the FM Repeater activity would become in later years. 73, Larry, K7LJ Original Message: - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 15:50:13 -0800 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor 412. repeater and SyntorX mobile 420-430MHz is the site-to-site /linking/ band here in SoCal, *not* a mobile relay/repeater subband. We've had active links on the band for about 40 years. Due to the concentration of radios in our area, it would neither be practical nor desirable to place repeaters in the 420-430 subband again. There actually were some repeaters in this subband many years ago, but these were all phased out by the mid-80s at absolute latest (to my knowledge). Things are rather complex here as well, beyond the raw numbers. A number of issues come to mind, some of the most important being transmitters receivers ending up 1MHz or even 100KHz from each other, should 420 'repeaters' be put at hilltop sites. It'd cause one big mess! Juggling link frequencies is plenty of work as it is. No site follows a single regionwide bandplan, but rather each site has its own bandplan. Other areas of the country have relatively little utilization in this subband. As such, I can see its appeal practicality in those areas. NorCal would have the same basic problem as SoCal. There's both a lack of real room a general incompatibility, since mobile relay operation is essentially counter to the purpose of this subband. It's good to experiment make use of equipment, but we should be careful courteous as well. 73, -Matt W6KGB The GRONK Radio Network At 02:47 PM 11/8/2005 -, you wrote: Hi Paul, Why not put them on the 420-430 MHz amateur band? Several states now have 420 MHz fm voice (non-atv) repeaters. Texas has six, Virginia has two, Ohio has two itinerent 420 machines that appear at Dayton Hamvention every year, and a bunch in SoCal is working to coordinate one now in the Los Angeles area. I have heard of several more under construction. My local machine is on 420.050 out / 426.050 in w/136.5 Hz tone. Been on the air for four years not without any interference issues with local ATV ops. 73, Mark Cobbeldick, KB4CVN Monroe, VA ALSO SEE: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AR420MHz-FM/ Yahoo! Groups Links mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor VHF High Band Repeater Amplifier
The model number C53RCB-3105AT is for a complete repeater station, not just the power amplifier. If all you need is the 60 watt continuous duty PA, then look for a TLD1703 for the 150.8-162 MHz band, or a TLD1704 for the 162-174 MHz band. Note that the 60 watt PA was not made in a version for the 132-150.8 MHz band, according to my manual. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY Charles Greene wrote: GM, Would anyone have by chance a Motorola Micor VHF High Band repeater final amplifier, part number C53RCB-3105AT, 60-watts, PL with unified chassis? If so, please e-mail me off list. A C43, C63 or C73 would also work. Tnx, W1CG, Chas Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] GM300 Squelch Adj.
One trick I've seen: Take the speaker out of the control head, and drill the front panel in front of the speaker for a pot and two mini-toggle switches (one on each side of the pot), then reinstall the speaker. The cone shape creates enough clearance for the parts. Wire one switch as per the squelch mod article at http://www.repeater-builder.com/maxtrac/gm300-squelch-mod.html, the other as a PL / Carrier switch, and the pot in place of the internal squelch control. Mike WA6ILQ At 05:15 PM 11/9/05, you wrote: Thanks a lot. That worked like a charm. I needed to lower the squelch as this is the receiver on my repeater. With the current setting, on a mobile station there is no swoosh, just chopping in and out. Again, thanks for all the replies. Andy KC2GOW 445.125 (4A) Staten Island,NY Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group Repeater-Builder on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
