Re: [Repeater-Builder] looking for a micor cable for test set

[Mike Morris]

At 08:30 PM 11/26/05, you wrote:

>Hello group
>
>I am looking for the extension cable that fits on the portable
>Motorola test set that does micor mobiles and stations
>the only number i can find on the test set is  (s1056a thru s1059a )
>can any one help ??
>
>keith va3kmc node 2650 irlp
>
>thanks all

You're looking for a TEK-37 or TEK-37A cable.

You can find them on eBay occasionally, but more
commonly packaged with a test set

You DON'T want to price a TEK37A cable from Motorola - they
must think it's gold plated (if it's still available - it may discontinued).

The parts alone for just the connector that plugs into the test
set - the body, shell, cable clamp, etc. total over $60

There's a mini-test-set that was shipped with some Micor base
stations... it's micor-only... One is on ebay right now as
item 5834926029

Mike WA6ILQ





 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] How Accurate is Radio Mobile?

[no6b]

At 11/26/2005 16:55, you wrote:
>Bob,
>
>I cannot state that Radio Mobile is not as accurate as a commercial program.

Well, IMO the remainder of your post attempts to implicitly bash RM in many 
ways.  Fair enough - it would be foolish for any multi-million dollar 
corporation to try to save $10k on coverage prediction software.  My only 
claim is that it would be just as foolish for the average ham to blow the 
lion's share of his or her repeater budget on the same software.

TASMA also uses RM as an aid to repeater coordination.  Since we have to 
deal with many other variables such as tropo ducting that can't be 
accurately modeled, it doesn't make sense for us to try to fine-tune any 
ITM software down to the nearest dB.

Bob NO6B






 
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[Repeater-Builder] looking for a micor cable for test set

[Keith]

Hello group

   I am looking for the extension cable that fits on the portable 
Motorola test set that does micor mobiles and stations
the only number i can find on the test set is  (s1056a thru s1059a ) 
can any one help ??

keith va3kmc node 2650 irlp

thanks all







 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] How Accurate is Radio Mobile?

[Nate Duehr]

Eric Lemmon wrote:
> Bob,
> 
> I cannot state that Radio Mobile is not as accurate as a commercial program.
> However, the commercial programs use digital elevation models that have been
> extensively refined with additional data points and calibrations that are not
> provided by the NGS.  It is this value-added aspect that makes these data
> costly.  In commercial broadcasting, when an error in computing coverage may
> mean a difference of a million dollars in advertising value, accuracy counts.
> I don't think that the potential advertisers are going to be swayed much by
> predictions based upon a shareware program.

I keep hearing about this better data from commercial propagation
software but can't find any reference to it on any of their marketing
material nor references to how they actually do it -- even assuming it's
proprietary, I don't even see hints about it anywhere.

I always wonder if it's just Bravo Sierra from the people trying to sell
the software.

Never met anyone who said their job was driving around gathering
geologic data better than USGS who worked for a software company.

I'm sure there's someone out there that does this stuff, and would be
interested in reading up on it, but it just makes me wonder when I see
these grandiose  claims from software manufacturers.  It's all got to be
coming from the same "pool", or we'd see a lot more trucks out driving
around doing this stuff.

I'd bet all the commercial vendors probably DO have some kind of
"better" data, but it all comes from the same pool -- a commercial
company that gathers it.

Geographical data for Geocoding and mapping at one company I worked at
was all from the same commercial providers -- all our competitors used
the same data, too.  We could confirm it by looking at their output
after one of our users reported a data error... yep, they have the same
error we do.  We'd fix ours, and not too far into the future we'd notice
all the competitors had fixed theirs also, even without that "fix" being
sent to the upstream data provider.  (In other words, we all watched
each other's changes and then double-checked them for ourselves, but we
didn't have any better raw data to start out with than the next guy.)

> Nor will I embrace a simplistic assumption when I have the tools to verify my
> calculations.  One of my most valued tools is a BVS "Coyote" GPS-based mobile
> signal measurement system.  It creates a map of actual signal levels measured
> during travels over the areas where coverage is desired and expected.  There
> have been very few instances where the predicted coverage determined by
> ComStudy did not agree closely with the measured values.  This is reason
> enough to trust the commercial software.

So run a Radio Mobile plot and see if it matches your commercial
software's plot or what the percentage difference is.  You could then
feel "comfortable" with it based solely on how well it matched a plot
from your other software.

You'd be doing the community a favor.  Very few have access to the tools
 you do, and it wouldn't be that time-consuming a project.  And RM is
free, of course.

Anyone ever compared the high-dollar stuff to RM head-to-head.  I'd bet
they're awfully close for VHF/UHF work.

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6 meter repeater duplexer (not used)

[Nate Duehr]

skipp025 wrote:

> Channel 2 from San Francisco is line of sight to our 
> system.  A combination of antenna shielding, some 
> homebrew filters and a bit of dancing made the system 
> usable and a lot of fun before the higher power tx 
> was placed in service. 

Skipp,

Try about 8 miles line of sight with Ch 2 @ ~20 KW.  :-(

Having any Ch 2 nearby -- no matter how you slice it -- really sucks.

Hmmm... antenna shielding...

Hey, yeah, we could put the antenna underground! ;-)  Yeah, yeah...
that's the ticket!  (GRIN)

Our poor 6m machine is quite deaf due to the noise level.

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] How Accurate is Radio Mobile?

[Paul Kelley]

> I guess it doesn't really make much difference how accurate a propagation
> program is, since the Hams I know who have used Radio Mobile or similar
> programs, simply put the computed coverage plot on the wall and proudly
> proclaim that it represents the coverage of their particular station.  I don't
> think any of them check to see how accurate it is.  If they're happy with it,
> let them be happy.

FWIW, I used Radio Mobile to see what it thought the coverage of my 
VHF and UHF repeaters would be. I used free SRTM elevation data, and 
I might add we have varying terrain from almost flat to rolling 
hills to rocky mountains. I have since driven hundreds of miles 
checking and verifying real coverage, and walked at least a couple 
hundred miles (not all at once!) with HTs and portable half wave 
antennas checking areas I couldn't get my Jeep into. I'm happy with 
the RM results because my actual coverage matches very closely with 
RM predictions. Have I personally checked every square foot of the 
coverage area? No, bt I have checked enough to have confidence in 
the software. Where it says there should be a dead spot, there's a 
dead spot (and not always where I would have expected them either). 
Where it says there should be signal, there is. Of course you have 
to get all the system properties entered correctly in RM, and if you 
go out to verify results you'd better use mobile/portable equipment 
with the same performance parameters you used for the mobile unit in 
the simulation!(*) Your results may vary, of course.

The expensive commercial programs and data may be better. I don't 
know. Radio Mobile is plenty accurate enough for me. BTW, it does 
let you enter height of antenna above ground and antenna horizontal 
pattern.

(*) one guy I know did a RM simulation assuming a 50 watt mobile 
unit and then went out to verify coverage using a 2 watt HT in the 
car (with quarter wave on the roof). He said the software was wrong 
because he couldn't get into his repeater from areas where RM said 
he could. Geez.

Paul N1BUG




 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] How Accurate is Radio Mobile?

[Eric Lemmon]

Bob,

I cannot state that Radio Mobile is not as accurate as a commercial program.
However, the commercial programs use digital elevation models that have been
extensively refined with additional data points and calibrations that are not
provided by the NGS.  It is this value-added aspect that makes these data
costly.  In commercial broadcasting, when an error in computing coverage may
mean a difference of a million dollars in advertising value, accuracy counts.
I don't think that the potential advertisers are going to be swayed much by
predictions based upon a shareware program.

Nor will I embrace a simplistic assumption when I have the tools to verify my
calculations.  One of my most valued tools is a BVS "Coyote" GPS-based mobile
signal measurement system.  It creates a map of actual signal levels measured
during travels over the areas where coverage is desired and expected.  There
have been very few instances where the predicted coverage determined by
ComStudy did not agree closely with the measured values.  This is reason
enough to trust the commercial software.

But, let's consider Amateur Radio applications, since we are in it for the
pleasure and for Public Service, rather than for the money.  The coordinating
bodies need to know, with some degree of accuracy, what the predicted signal
level will be at some distance from the transmitter.  As I noted in a previous
posting, the free-space attenuation calculation is the easy part.  But, to
determine diffraction and Fresnel losses to any reasonable degree of accuracy,
one must know the elevation profile of the path to a far greater accuracy than
the publicly-available NGS Digital Elevation Models will allow.  A sharp-edged
ridge diffracts radio signals in a far different manner than a smooth-edged
ridge.  Trees and brush on the ridge make a huge difference.  Earth curvature
must be considered.

When calculating HAAT, the elevation of the radiation center of the antenna
must be known and considered in the equation.  Many inexpensive or free
propagation programs (I dunno how Radio Mobile does this) simply assume that
the antenna is at the ground elevation.  This, of course, will result in
inaccurate data.  Who is going to verify its accuracy?

What about directional antennas?  Can the propagation software accept the
antenna manufacturer's horizontal and vertical response patterns in the
industry-standard formats, and include their influences on the calculated
contour?  Not all Ham repeaters use omnidirectional antennas; some use offset,
corner reflector, and Yagi antennas.

I guess it doesn't really make much difference how accurate a propagation
program is, since the Hams I know who have used Radio Mobile or similar
programs, simply put the computed coverage plot on the wall and proudly
proclaim that it represents the coverage of their particular station.  I don't
think any of them check to see how accurate it is.  If they're happy with it,
let them be happy.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> >Radio Mobile should be used with the realization that an inexpensive (or
> >free) program cannot possibly duplicate the features and accuracy of
> >commercial propagation programs like ComStudy, TAP, CovLab, RPS, and
> >others which are in the $5,000 to $12,000 class.
>
> The question here is are the $5k-$12k programs really $5k to $12k better
> than Radio Mobile?
>
> >   One of the key elements in determining coverage is a high-resolution
> digital elevation model, and this data is costly, perhaps $500 for a CD
> covering only a few states.
>
> I wasn't aware of any wide-area digital elevation data more accurate than
> the publicly available (free) SRTM data.
>
> Bob NO6B






 
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[Repeater-Builder] GTX Information article

[Bob M.]

There's a new article in the Motorol section on
www.repeater-builder.com that deals with 900 MHz GTX
mobiles and portables. Lots of information, a few
photos, manual pages, part numbers.

http://www.repeater-builder.com/motorola/gtx/gtx-info.html

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[Repeater-Builder] MaxTrac 800 to 900 conversion addendum

[Bob M.]

Finally, the long-awaited article that tells you how
to perform surgery on the 800 MHz MaxTrac VCO to get
non-talk-around radios to receive 902-928, and
talk-around radios to transmit 902-903 and receive
927-928.

http://www.repeater-builder.com/maxtrac/maxtrac-8to9part2.html

See this and others on www.repeater-builder.com in the
Motorola section.

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[Repeater-Builder] Re: MTR 2000 Repeater Intermod

[Laryn Lohman]

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Jim, K8COP" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Laryn,
> 
> What intermod program would you suggest?
> 
> Jim, K8COP


Well Jim, there are several listed here:

  

I've used the TCS program; I can't vouch for any of the others...

Laryn K8TVZ







 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6 meter repeater duplexer (not used)

[Neil McKie]

  True ... 

  Before 6 meter repeaters became really popular in Oregon - last 
 several years - DB Products 40-50 MHz cans were going for $25 or 
 $50 at the local swapmeets. 

  Neil 

Paul Finch wrote:
> 
> Neil,
> 
> In Texas it's 1 MHz.  At least it's better than 500 KHz.
> 
> Paul
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Neil McKie
> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 2:20 PM
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6 meter repeater duplexer (not 
> used)
> 
>   Another nice item about living the Pacific Northwest ... the
>  six meter band plan in western Washington and all of Oregon has
>  a 1.7 MHz in/output split.
> 
>   Neil - WA6KLA
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > At 11/26/2005 10:19, you wrote:
> > >One of my first (Hamtronics) 6 meter repeaters
> > >worked fine... same site no duplexer.  I had
> > >65 ft antenna separation, a ground plane (converted
> > >CB 5/8 wave) for rx at the top and a low gain
> > >1/2 dipole (converted scanner antenna) at the
> > >bottom.
> > >
> > >The elevated site worked an easy 30 mile radius with
> > >a whopping 2.3 watts output.  Talk about a smoker...
> > >
> > >Who says you need a duplexer..?
> > >
> > >Just drop the power down...
> > >
> > >cheers,
> > >skipp
>





 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6 meter repeater duplexer (not used)

[Paul Finch]

Neil,

In Texas it's 1 MHz.  At least it's better than 500 KHz.

Paul


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Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6 meter repeater duplexer (not used)



  Another nice item about living the Pacific Northwest ... the
 six meter band plan in western Washington and all of Oregon has
 a 1.7 MHz in/output split.

  Neil - WA6KLA

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> At 11/26/2005 10:19, you wrote:
> >One of my first (Hamtronics) 6 meter repeaters
> >worked fine... same site no duplexer.  I had
> >65 ft antenna separation, a ground plane (converted
> >CB 5/8 wave) for rx at the top and a low gain
> >1/2 dipole (converted scanner antenna) at the
> >bottom.
> >
> >The elevated site worked an easy 30 mile radius with
> >a whopping 2.3 watts output.  Talk about a smoker...
> >
> >Who says you need a duplexer..?
> >
> >Just drop the power down...
> >
> >cheers,
> >skipp
>
> What I/O split does it run?  Here in SoCal we use 500 kHz.  FWIW, I notice
> more repeaters on 6 meters with self-desense than any other band, which is
> even worse when you consider that the noise floor on 6 is higher than the
> higher bands.
>
> Bob
>
> P.S.: 2.5 watts TX power would never cut it here - too much ch. 2 VSB
>
>






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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6 meter repeater duplexer (not used)

[Neil McKie]

  Another nice item about living the Pacific Northwest ... the 
 six meter band plan in western Washington and all of Oregon has 
 a 1.7 MHz in/output split. 

  Neil - WA6KLA 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> At 11/26/2005 10:19, you wrote:
> >One of my first (Hamtronics) 6 meter repeaters
> >worked fine... same site no duplexer.  I had
> >65 ft antenna separation, a ground plane (converted
> >CB 5/8 wave) for rx at the top and a low gain
> >1/2 dipole (converted scanner antenna) at the
> >bottom.
> >
> >The elevated site worked an easy 30 mile radius with
> >a whopping 2.3 watts output.  Talk about a smoker...
> >
> >Who says you need a duplexer..?
> >
> >Just drop the power down...
> >
> >cheers,
> >skipp
> 
> What I/O split does it run?  Here in SoCal we use 500 kHz.  FWIW, I notice
> more repeaters on 6 meters with self-desense than any other band, which is
> even worse when you consider that the noise floor on 6 is higher than the
> higher bands.
> 
> Bob
> 
> P.S.: 2.5 watts TX power would never cut it here - too much ch. 2 VSB
> 
>





 
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[Repeater-Builder] KPT-50 for Kenwood TKR-720

[hamradio_india]

Hi all,

We are looking for KPT-50 (Filed programming Unit) and KPG-21D
(Programming Disk for use with KPT-50) for our TKR-720 desktop repeater.

 This repeater covers the costal and flood prone areas and is
dedicated for Amateurs Emergency service.

 If anyone have please let us know and the price you expect with details.

our website:

http://geocities.com/hamradio_india

Thanks for viewing

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[Repeater-Builder] Re: 6 meter repeater duplexer (not used)

[skipp025]

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> What I/O split does it run?  Here in SoCal we use 
> 500 kHz.  

The original hamtronics repeater I put on the air 
about 1980 ran the original 600KHz split.  I replaced 
the receiver with a Midland Low-Band Mobile (works 
very well), which scans both the 500 & 600KHz inputs 
as well as two other popular frequencies. (The repeater 
inputs are priority scanned). 

I favor the original 600KHz split because I couldn't 
stand having the 500KHz split forced down my throat 
even though it probably makes more sense. So both 
inputs remain in the game plan for now... 

> FWIW, I notice more repeaters on 6 meters with 
> self-desense than any other band, which is 
> even worse when you consider that the noise floor 
> on 6 is higher than the higher bands.
> Bob

Circa 1981 I built a tube type 15 watt amplifier to 
use with the Hamtronics transmitter. It would pretty 
much make the system hose up real bad so I took it 
off (even after building much strip line filtering 
from the ARRL Handbook.  The original 2.3 whoping 
watts system works fine...  for higher power more 
tx and rx protection would obviously be required. 

> P.S.: 2.5 watts TX power would never cut it here 
> - too much ch. 2 VSB

Channel 2 from San Francisco is line of sight to our 
system.  A combination of antenna shielding, some 
homebrew filters and a bit of dancing made the system 
usable and a lot of fun before the higher power tx 
was placed in service. 

cheers, 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help in using Radio Mobile Deluxe?

[no6b]

At 11/25/2005 08:18, you wrote:
>Robert,
>
>Radio Mobile should be used with the realization that an inexpensive (or
>free) program cannot possibly duplicate the features and accuracy of
>commercial propagation programs like ComStudy, TAP, CovLab, RPS, and
>others which are in the $5,000 to $12,000 class.

The question here is are the $5k-$12k programs really $5k to $12k better 
than Radio Mobile?

>   One of the key elements
>in determining coverage is a high-resolution digital elevation model, and
>this data is costly, perhaps $500 for a CD covering only a few states.

I wasn't aware of any wide-area digital elevation data more accurate than 
the publicly available (free) SRTM data.

Bob NO6B






 
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[Repeater-Builder] antenna combiner systems example

[skipp025]

A short time back we heard from Alex with the 
problematic VHF Trunking system in South America. 

I mentioned part of the problem was the lack of 
pre-selection and notch cavities in both the 
transmit & receive sides of the combiner system. 

An example of a pretty well done combiner system 
is now up on Ebay as item # 5834603001  

This is one of the classic 220 ACSB trunking 
combiner systems again finding their way onto the 
surplus market from the poorly done 220 narrow 
band trunking systems (Securicor, Intek and Linear 
Modulation Systems). 

If you can follow the wires around... you'll see 
how this one works.  As I use one of these combiners 
for multiple 224MHz ham repeaters...  yes, the parts 
move up into the ham bands no problama. 

I have nothing to do with the auciton, although the 
listed price appears kind of high... what you get 
is well worth the money.  I have the diagram if you 
end up being the happy bidder. 

cheers,
skipp 

www.radiowrench.com 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6 meter repeater duplexer (not used)

[no6b]

At 11/26/2005 10:19, you wrote:
>One of my first (Hamtronics) 6 meter repeaters
>worked fine... same site no duplexer.  I had
>65 ft antenna separation, a ground plane (converted
>CB 5/8 wave) for rx at the top and a low gain
>1/2 dipole (converted scanner antenna) at the
>bottom.
>
>The elevated site worked an easy 30 mile radius with
>a whopping 2.3 watts output.  Talk about a smoker...
>
>Who says you need a duplexer..?
>
>Just drop the power down...
>
>cheers,
>skipp

What I/O split does it run?  Here in SoCal we use 500 kHz.  FWIW, I notice 
more repeaters on 6 meters with self-desense than any other band, which is 
even worse when you consider that the noise floor on 6 is higher than the 
higher bands.

Bob

P.S.: 2.5 watts TX power would never cut it here - too much ch. 2 VSB






 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: 6 meter repeater duplexer (not used)

[skipp025]

One of my first (Hamtronics) 6 meter repeaters 
worked fine... same site no duplexer.  I had 
65 ft antenna separation, a ground plane (converted 
CB 5/8 wave) for rx at the top and a low gain 
1/2 dipole (converted scanner antenna) at the 
bottom. 

The elevated site worked an easy 30 mile radius with 
a whopping 2.3 watts output.  Talk about a smoker...

Who says you need a duplexer..? 

Just drop the power down... 

cheers,
skipp 

ps: the repeater still works...  

> "Kevin King" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I can help you with the construction of 6 meter duplexers. And NO
not using
> hardline! Real pass/notch cavities.
> e-mail me direct [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> I read all the e-mails you sent, I did not se an e-mail that quoted
a price
> to you other than the 40.00 per unit. Was your quote verbal? Not
trying to
> stir it up just want to see both sides.
> 
> Kevin King SCSA BSCIS
> ARS KC6OVD
> GMRS KAG0378
> EIEIO 2722
> Acworth Georgia
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Paul Finch
> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 8:04 AM
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Controller
> 
> 
> Kevin,
> 
> Your correct but the price of the controller has not changed.  If
they had
> gone up on their product I would understand their position.  My problem
> right now is Mr. Otterson called me a liar, I will not accept that
at any
> time.
> 
> Guess I am lucky, the 500 foot tower is in my back yard (literally) and
> maintaining them will not be a problem.  There are two split site
repeaters
> in the bunch and I go to that site all the time for a customer.  That is
> unless I can find a good (big) duplexer for 10 and 6 meters.
> 
> Paul
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin King
> Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 10:45 PM
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Controller
> 
> 
> In my line of work (cellular) I have never seen a quoted price that
was good
> for more than 30 days. Most of the quotes I receive are good for 10
to 15
> days. then we take 6 months to pay :)
> 
> 40 bucks- heck that is a tank of gas these days. Buy what you can
and build
> what you have parts for. the controllers will be the least of your
problems
> with the project you have on the table. Don't get me wrong 5 bucks
times 6
> controllers can make a good dent in your project budget. this is a
> non-profit project? sounds like the scope of project needs some work. 6
> repeaters is quite a bit of hardware to maintain. depending on what the
> project is going to resolve I might be interested in supporting your
> efforts.
> 
> I have no interest in nhrc, but can say Mr. Otterson is a good person to
> deal with. I am in the same town as he and can say he is a good citizen.
> 
> 
> Kevin King SCSA BSCIS
> ARS KC6OVD
> GMRS KAG0378
> EIEIO 2722
> Acworth Georgia
>








 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: AWA BS83/RT85 Midland Base or repeater manuals or help Please

[skipp025]

There's a yahoo group for everything... you can find 
some of us Midland and AWA People over at: 

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MidlandLMR/messages 

There are some manuals an information in the files, 
database and photos sections. 

cheers, 
skipp 


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> 
> I have been around in the game since 1976ish in Australia. AWA branded 
> radios are a bit new to me. I say that but I do have a m2000 man pack 
> uhf and a RT80 uhf (both had never missed a beat) that were used on my 
> old Philips 828 repeater. This why I am looking to make up a multi 
> channel UHF CB repeater using a BS83 and maybe squeezing it into the 
> radio chassis not in the BS83 cabinet. I travel overseas (mainly 
> Africa) from time to time and could use a repeater. I have a few of 
> UHF Tait Orca handhelds so a repeater would extend the range. I have 
> tried a 2 antenna system and it works OK so I will not need a huge 
> diplexer system. Well cutting a long story short.\, I am looking for 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tplot and Docs in File Section

[Mike Morris]

At 06:13 AM 11/26/05, you wrote:

>A copy of the antenna sidemount pattern software Tplot and associated
>Docs file is now located in the Files section, in the Plot folder.
>Thanks Kevin.
>
>Laryn K8TVZ

It's also on the Antenna Systems Page at www.repeater-builder.com

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dayton Hamvention Input Wanted.

[Mark A. Holman]

I'll agree with Tony to a point ...  not all women want a ham license
but I would go against the carnival, reason, their saftey record, and
too many litigation lawyers and it would be bad publicity once you have
an injury or death, I talked to a Ex - Carnie once he told me the
company he left had alot of equiptment that needed repairs.  Ask
yourself woulfd you let your child ride a peice of crap ?

mark h.

Tony Duffy wrote:

  What about something along the lines of an Arts & Crafts
show or a Tuppawear Party type of show , or maybe a flee
market.designed around keeping the wife busy while the rest of
us stroll around all of the booths at the Dayton Hamvention.  (or
maybe a carnival with rides so that you could bring the kids!)   
  Just a thought.  
   
  Tony D. 
  KC5WBJ
   
   
   
  skipp025 wrote:
  
  

  
Dayton Hamvention Input Wanted.My friend Tom is directly involved with the Dayton   Hamvention.  His position in the 2006 year project   is more toward the public relations side. He has asked me to poll you folks for new ideas,  
 opinions and information for the 2006 Hamvention. The primary goal of this poll is to source ideas,   which will be used to make the whole Hamvention   event more attractive to non-hams... ie spouses   and persons not normally attending the Hamvention. The quesion is: "What would it take to get your   spouse to want to come to the Dayton Hamvention or   spend time in the Greater Dayton Area while you   attend the event?" We're looking for ideas regarding things we can offer   at the Hamvention and off site.  One example might   be a special shuttle service to available local   shopping, tours of historical locations and culture. 
  
A list of good pubs would work!  ;c)  Jim  WD8CHL  

  
   
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Controller

[Paul Finch]

Kevin,

Thanks, will email you later today.

Thanks,
Paul
WB5IDM



-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin King
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 7:53 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Controller


I can help you with the construction of 6 meter duplexers. And NO not using
hardline! Real pass/notch cavities.
e-mail me direct [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I read all the e-mails you sent, I did not se an e-mail that quoted a price
to you other than the 40.00 per unit. Was your quote verbal? Not trying to
stir it up just want to see both sides.

Kevin King SCSA BSCIS
ARS KC6OVD
GMRS KAG0378
EIEIO 2722
Acworth Georgia


-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Paul Finch
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 8:04 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Controller


Kevin,

Your correct but the price of the controller has not changed.  If they had
gone up on their product I would understand their position.  My problem
right now is Mr. Otterson called me a liar, I will not accept that at any
time.

Guess I am lucky, the 500 foot tower is in my back yard (literally) and
maintaining them will not be a problem.  There are two split site repeaters
in the bunch and I go to that site all the time for a customer.  That is
unless I can find a good (big) duplexer for 10 and 6 meters.

Paul


-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin King
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 10:45 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Controller


In my line of work (cellular) I have never seen a quoted price that was good
for more than 30 days. Most of the quotes I receive are good for 10 to 15
days. then we take 6 months to pay :)

40 bucks- heck that is a tank of gas these days. Buy what you can and build
what you have parts for. the controllers will be the least of your problems
with the project you have on the table. Don't get me wrong 5 bucks times 6
controllers can make a good dent in your project budget. this is a
non-profit project? sounds like the scope of project needs some work. 6
repeaters is quite a bit of hardware to maintain. depending on what the
project is going to resolve I might be interested in supporting your
efforts.

I have no interest in nhrc, but can say Mr. Otterson is a good person to
deal with. I am in the same town as he and can say he is a good citizen.


Kevin King SCSA BSCIS
ARS KC6OVD
GMRS KAG0378
EIEIO 2722
Acworth Georgia





















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RE: [Repeater-Builder] GE 220 conversion

[Paul Finch]

Neil,

You want to sell them let me know.  They are great little radios and easy to
mod to a repeater.  My first 559 worked so well it was stolen off the site
where it was, worst part was that site was the roof of the Tarrant County
Sheriff's office!  I had built the controller, you could do all sorts of
things with it from turning it off to lowering the power from 40 watts to 6
via DTMF.

Paul


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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Neil McKie
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 7:57 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE 220 conversion



  I picked up a pair of the UHF Fleetcom II's a few years ago ...
 at a swapmeet or somewhere.  Got them and a base station power
 supply - all for $25 I think.

  All is in a box in my garage - upstairs toward the east end of
 the storage area as I remember.  Haven't looked at them in years.

  Like them or not, I have noticed over the years, the guys who use
 older Johnson radios, swear by them.

  Neil


Paul Finch wrote:
>
> Neil,
>
> The Fleetcom II series radio is the 530 I was talking about, right
> now I have a 530 and a 559 as my Ham repeaters.  I had the 500 foot
> tower erected in 1998 and they have been working since then with no
> troubles.  In fact they ran on a 60 foot tower for a couple of
> years before that.  The 530 is getting deaf for some reason but for
> a 25 year old radio that ain't bad history.
>
> Paul
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Neil McKie
> Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 11:17 PM
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE 220 conversion
>
>   Hey Paul,
>
>   Ever heard of a Johnson Fleetcom II?
>
>   Neil
>
> Paul Finch wrote:
> >
> > Kevin,
> >
> > Sorry, I don't think so.  Guess it's the nightmares I still have
> > from my days in the paging industry, I have sort of revolted
> > against Motorola equipment.  Long boring story, none of it good.
> >
> > I may order crystals for a old Johnson 530 and have my fun
> > modifying it.  So far all my other repeaters are Johnson, might
> > as well make one more work. They simple and just run and run.
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin Custer
> > Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 5:31 PM
> > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE 220 conversion
> >
> > Paul Finch wrote:
> >
> > >Hello,
> > >
> > >Which of the three or four 220 MHz conversions are best that are listed
> on
> > >the Repeater Builder site?  Any positives or negatives to any of them?
> > >Anything better out there for these conversions?
> > >
> >
> > Yea,  use a Micor.  (no I'm not kidding)
> >
> > Kevin
> >






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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Controller

[Kevin King]

I can help you with the construction of 6 meter duplexers. And NO not using
hardline! Real pass/notch cavities.
e-mail me direct [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I read all the e-mails you sent, I did not se an e-mail that quoted a price
to you other than the 40.00 per unit. Was your quote verbal? Not trying to
stir it up just want to see both sides.

Kevin King SCSA BSCIS
ARS KC6OVD
GMRS KAG0378
EIEIO 2722
Acworth Georgia


-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Paul Finch
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 8:04 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Controller


Kevin,

Your correct but the price of the controller has not changed.  If they had
gone up on their product I would understand their position.  My problem
right now is Mr. Otterson called me a liar, I will not accept that at any
time.

Guess I am lucky, the 500 foot tower is in my back yard (literally) and
maintaining them will not be a problem.  There are two split site repeaters
in the bunch and I go to that site all the time for a customer.  That is
unless I can find a good (big) duplexer for 10 and 6 meters.

Paul


-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin King
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 10:45 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Controller


In my line of work (cellular) I have never seen a quoted price that was good
for more than 30 days. Most of the quotes I receive are good for 10 to 15
days. then we take 6 months to pay :)

40 bucks- heck that is a tank of gas these days. Buy what you can and build
what you have parts for. the controllers will be the least of your problems
with the project you have on the table. Don't get me wrong 5 bucks times 6
controllers can make a good dent in your project budget. this is a
non-profit project? sounds like the scope of project needs some work. 6
repeaters is quite a bit of hardware to maintain. depending on what the
project is going to resolve I might be interested in supporting your
efforts.

I have no interest in nhrc, but can say Mr. Otterson is a good person to
deal with. I am in the same town as he and can say he is a good citizen.


Kevin King SCSA BSCIS
ARS KC6OVD
GMRS KAG0378
EIEIO 2722
Acworth Georgia




















 
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[Repeater-Builder] MTR 2000 Repeater Intermod

[Jim, K8COP]

Hi Eric,

Thanks for the reply.  I will check the settings this weekend, and post the 
results.

Thanks,

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[Repeater-Builder] MTR 2000 Repeater Intermod

[Jim, K8COP]

Laryn,

What intermod program would you suggest?

Jim, K8COP

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To: 
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 1:24 AM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: MTR 2000 Repeater Intermod


> 
> Since you are hearing it on the , it is a signal on your input
> with no PL or the wrong PL.  Are you hearing 155.49 audio mixed with
> another station??  I'd run an intermod program and see if you get a
> hit on your input.
> 
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[Repeater-Builder] Tplot and Docs in File Section

[Laryn Lohman]

A copy of the antenna sidemount pattern software Tplot and associated
Docs file is now located in the Files section, in the Plot folder. 
Thanks Kevin.

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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Controller

[n1ltl]

Mr. Finch,

First, I don't not believe that neither my partner Jeff, nor anyone
else at NHRC or on this forum has called you a liar.

Second, I must defend Mr. Otterson's position that *nobody* from NHRC
*ever* quoted you a price for the NHRC-4 product, as you have clearly
shown in your previous post.  

It is clear, however, that I did make mention (over 60 days ago) of a
quantity discount for our product *and* Mr. Gailunas' statement that
with the release of Version 3 of the NHRC-4 firmware, that we cannot
offer any discounts on our kit product.  Period.

It is also clear from your post, that you are the *only* person who
has *ever* made mention of a $35.00 discounted price for the controllers.

Please feel free to purchase your controllers from any company you wish.

I stand behind the statements of my partners, our product and our
industry reputation.

Also, Kevin, I apologize for the necessity of this post.  I would
request the all parties refrain from further posts regarding this and
returning the forum to its intended use.

Rich Cox
NHRC Repeater Controllers



--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Finch"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Kevin,
> 
> Your correct but the price of the controller has not changed.  If
they had
> gone up on their product I would understand their position.  My problem
> right now is Mr. Otterson called me a liar, I will not accept that
at any
> time.
> 
> Guess I am lucky, the 500 foot tower is in my back yard (literally) and
> maintaining them will not be a problem.  There are two split site
repeaters
> in the bunch and I go to that site all the time for a customer.  That is
> unless I can find a good (big) duplexer for 10 and 6 meters.
> 
> Paul
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin King
> Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 10:45 PM
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Controller
> 
> 
> In my line of work (cellular) I have never seen a quoted price that
was good
> for more than 30 days. Most of the quotes I receive are good for 10
to 15
> days. then we take 6 months to pay :)
> 
> 40 bucks- heck that is a tank of gas these days. Buy what you can
and build
> what you have parts for. the controllers will be the least of your
problems
> with the project you have on the table. Don't get me wrong 5 bucks
times 6
> controllers can make a good dent in your project budget. this is a
> non-profit project? sounds like the scope of project needs some work. 6
> repeaters is quite a bit of hardware to maintain. depending on what the
> project is going to resolve I might be interested in supporting your
> efforts.
> 
> I have no interest in nhrc, but can say Mr. Otterson is a good person to
> deal with. I am in the same town as he and can say he is a good citizen.
> 
> 
> Kevin King SCSA BSCIS
> ARS KC6OVD
> GMRS KAG0378
> EIEIO 2722
> Acworth Georgia
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Paul Finch
> Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 11:23 PM
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Controller
> 
> 
> Mr. Otterson,
> 
> Would you like me to post the email I got from Richard???
> 
> You asked for it!  All I ever asked about was the NHRC-4 as you can
see by
> the emails, why would I think it was for anything else!  This is a
copy of
> all emails I have received to and from NHRC.  Somewhere in there I
talked
> directly to Richard to get the $35.00 per unit in quantities of ten
or more.
> 
> Paul
> 
> 
> 
> Peter,
> 
> You use a PIC processor, not rocket science.  When a representative of a
> company quotes a price companies normally stand behind that price. 
It took
> the two months you spoke of to save up the money to purchase these
> controllers at $35.00 each.
> 
> I will probably buy these controllers because they are the only ones
I can
> afford with the number of repeaters I am building, I don't have to
like it
> though.
> 
> Paul
> 
> **
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Peter Gailunas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 6:49 AM
> To: Paul Finch
> Subject: Re: FW: NHRC-4
> 
> 
> Hi Paul,
> 
> In the 2 mos since you chatted with Rich about this item we have
released a
> drastic improvement
> to the product.   NHRC Version 3 is culmination of 2 years of product
> development and testing.
> We are unable to offer any discounts on the kit version of this
> product.   We believe
> that $ 40.00 is an extreme value for what this product can do.
> 
> Sincerely
> 
> Peter J Gailunas
> GM NHRC LLC
> 
> 
> *8
> 
> 
> 
> At 11:12 PM 11/22/2005, you wrote:
> >Pete,
> >
> >OK, it was Richard that told me about the discount on 10 units. 
Here is
> the
> >email.
> >
> >Paul Finch
> >WB5IDM
> >
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Paul Finch [mailto:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE 220 conversion

[Neil McKie]

  I picked up a pair of the UHF Fleetcom II's a few years ago ... 
 at a swapmeet or somewhere.  Got them and a base station power 
 supply - all for $25 I think. 

  All is in a box in my garage - upstairs toward the east end of 
 the storage area as I remember.  Haven't looked at them in years. 

  Like them or not, I have noticed over the years, the guys who use 
 older Johnson radios, swear by them.

  Neil 


Paul Finch wrote:
> 
> Neil,
> 
> The Fleetcom II series radio is the 530 I was talking about, right 
> now I have a 530 and a 559 as my Ham repeaters.  I had the 500 foot 
> tower erected in 1998 and they have been working since then with no 
> troubles.  In fact they ran on a 60 foot tower for a couple of 
> years before that.  The 530 is getting deaf for some reason but for 
> a 25 year old radio that ain't bad history.
> 
> Paul
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Neil McKie
> Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 11:17 PM
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE 220 conversion
> 
>   Hey Paul,
> 
>   Ever heard of a Johnson Fleetcom II?
> 
>   Neil
> 
> Paul Finch wrote:
> >
> > Kevin,
> >
> > Sorry, I don't think so.  Guess it's the nightmares I still have
> > from my days in the paging industry, I have sort of revolted
> > against Motorola equipment.  Long boring story, none of it good.
> >
> > I may order crystals for a old Johnson 530 and have my fun
> > modifying it.  So far all my other repeaters are Johnson, might
> > as well make one more work. They simple and just run and run.
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin Custer
> > Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 5:31 PM
> > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE 220 conversion
> >
> > Paul Finch wrote:
> >
> > >Hello,
> > >
> > >Which of the three or four 220 MHz conversions are best that are listed
> on
> > >the Repeater Builder site?  Any positives or negatives to any of them?
> > >Anything better out there for these conversions?
> > >
> >
> > Yea,  use a Micor.  (no I'm not kidding)
> >
> > Kevin
> >





 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Controller

[Paul Finch]

Kevin,

Your correct but the price of the controller has not changed.  If they had
gone up on their product I would understand their position.  My problem
right now is Mr. Otterson called me a liar, I will not accept that at any
time.

Guess I am lucky, the 500 foot tower is in my back yard (literally) and
maintaining them will not be a problem.  There are two split site repeaters
in the bunch and I go to that site all the time for a customer.  That is
unless I can find a good (big) duplexer for 10 and 6 meters.

Paul


-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin King
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 10:45 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Controller


In my line of work (cellular) I have never seen a quoted price that was good
for more than 30 days. Most of the quotes I receive are good for 10 to 15
days. then we take 6 months to pay :)

40 bucks- heck that is a tank of gas these days. Buy what you can and build
what you have parts for. the controllers will be the least of your problems
with the project you have on the table. Don't get me wrong 5 bucks times 6
controllers can make a good dent in your project budget. this is a
non-profit project? sounds like the scope of project needs some work. 6
repeaters is quite a bit of hardware to maintain. depending on what the
project is going to resolve I might be interested in supporting your
efforts.

I have no interest in nhrc, but can say Mr. Otterson is a good person to
deal with. I am in the same town as he and can say he is a good citizen.


Kevin King SCSA BSCIS
ARS KC6OVD
GMRS KAG0378
EIEIO 2722
Acworth Georgia


-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Paul Finch
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 11:23 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Controller


Mr. Otterson,

Would you like me to post the email I got from Richard???

You asked for it!  All I ever asked about was the NHRC-4 as you can see by
the emails, why would I think it was for anything else!  This is a copy of
all emails I have received to and from NHRC.  Somewhere in there I talked
directly to Richard to get the $35.00 per unit in quantities of ten or more.

Paul



Peter,

You use a PIC processor, not rocket science.  When a representative of a
company quotes a price companies normally stand behind that price.  It took
the two months you spoke of to save up the money to purchase these
controllers at $35.00 each.

I will probably buy these controllers because they are the only ones I can
afford with the number of repeaters I am building, I don't have to like it
though.

Paul

**

-Original Message-
From: Peter Gailunas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 6:49 AM
To: Paul Finch
Subject: Re: FW: NHRC-4


Hi Paul,

In the 2 mos since you chatted with Rich about this item we have released a
drastic improvement
to the product.   NHRC Version 3 is culmination of 2 years of product
development and testing.
We are unable to offer any discounts on the kit version of this
product.   We believe
that $ 40.00 is an extreme value for what this product can do.

Sincerely

Peter J Gailunas
GM NHRC LLC


*8



At 11:12 PM 11/22/2005, you wrote:
>Pete,
>
>OK, it was Richard that told me about the discount on 10 units.  Here is
the
>email.
>
>Paul Finch
>WB5IDM
>
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Paul Finch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 9:07 PM
>To: Richard Cox
>Subject: RE: NHRC-4
>
>
>Richard,
>
>OK, I have to ask, what is the discount for 10 units, it may not be worth
>the difference.
>
>Paul
>
>**
>-Original Message-
>From: Richard Cox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 4:54 PM
>To: Paul Finch
>Cc: Peter Gailunas
>Subject: RE: NHRC-4
>
>
>Paul,
>
>The NHRC-4 complete manual, including the parts list is available for
>download here: http://www.nhrc.net/nhrc-4/nhrc-4_manual.pdf
>
>This is the same manual that is included in printed form with the NHRC-4
>kit.
>
>The NHRC-4 kits are in stock.  We offer quanitity discounts on orders
larger
>than 10 units.
>
>Thanks for the inquiry.
>
>Regards,
>Richard Cox / N1LTL
>NHRC Repeater Controllers
>www.nhrc.net
>

>-Original Message-
>From: Paul Finch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 11:32 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: NHRC-4
>
>
>Hello,
>
>I am in need of 6 controllers to get some repeaters on the air.  I am
>looking at the most cost effective solution for obvious reasons.  I am
>thinking about your NHRC-4 in the kit form and have a couple of questions.
>Is there a printable parts list for the parts I need to order to complete
>these boards?  If so where can 

RE: [Repeater-Builder] GE 220 conversion

[Paul Finch]

Neil,

The Fleetcom II series radio is the 530 I was talking about, right now I
have a 530 and a 559 as my Ham repeaters.  I had the 500 foot tower erected
in 1998 and they have been working since then with no troubles.  In fact
they ran on a 60 foot tower for a couple of years before that.  The 530 is
getting deaf for some reason but for a 25 year old radio that ain't bad
history.

Paul


-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Neil McKie
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 11:17 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE 220 conversion



  Hey Paul,

  Ever heard of a Johnson Fleetcom II?

  Neil

Paul Finch wrote:
>
> Kevin,
>
> Sorry, I don't think so.  Guess it's the nightmares I still have
> from my days in the paging industry, I have sort of revolted
> against Motorola equipment.  Long boring story, none of it good.
>
> I may order crystals for a old Johnson 530 and have my fun
> modifying it.  So far all my other repeaters are Johnson, might
> as well make one more work. They simple and just run and run.
>
> Paul
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin Custer
> Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 5:31 PM
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE 220 conversion
>
> Paul Finch wrote:
>
> >Hello,
> >
> >Which of the three or four 220 MHz conversions are best that are listed
on
> >the Repeater Builder site?  Any positives or negatives to any of them?
> >Anything better out there for these conversions?
> >
>
> Yea,  use a Micor.  (no I'm not kidding)
>
> Kevin
>
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