[Repeater-Builder] Re: Kenwood TKR 820

2006-03-12 Thread skipp025
> John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks for the response. I'd like to pick your brain 
> on this. 

Not too much... don't have many cells left after disco 
and some 1970's through the early 1980's bad habits. 

> But just to get me going I'd like to ask you the following
> I turned the unit on and get lights. I was not able to 
> get any audio from it. The busy light came on when I 
> adjusted the squelch.

You need the internal speaker jumper on the missing rear 
panel molex plug. 

> I was not able to key it up and measure the freq. ( I 
> now have the pinout and will try to transmit tomorrow)

If you don't have a mic, better to key the tx using the 
rear panel external ptt function/pins. Don't go playing 
around with trying to key the tx through the mic jack 
with jumpers. 
 
> The molex on the back has no mating plug in it, 
> according to your email it should have one to make 
> it work or give out audio. Which pins do I jumper?

Can't tell you without looking at the manual on Monday. 

> I took the top cover off and saw a flat 4 pin connector 
> flush with the top of the front panel and to the left 
> of center, what is it?

One of the programming ports for use with the kpt-50 
programmer. If memory serves it's the ctcss/dcs program 
port.  I always remove the eeprom from under the hatch 
(you have yet to open) and program the ctcss/dcs codes 
by placing the eeprom directly into the kpt-50 programmer. 

The kpt-50 has two leads one with the plug for the 
above mentioned port and the other a mic plug that goes 
in the front panel mic jack. 

> What quick checks can I do?

Any amount made out to me...?  :-) 

TX can be done by jumpering the proper pins on the 
rear molex connector (in the right order). The pins 
are numbered and shown in the service manual. 

If you have a uhf repeater the rx is probably 5Mhz 
the other direction in the band.  If you have a vhf 
repeater at about 152 MHz, the receiver is probably 
about 5 Mhz up the band at about 157 MHz.  I just 
did this today on a silly Tait Repeater someone 
gave me.  The tx was at 152.3xx MHz.  I set the 
signal generator up to 156MHz and started walking 
the frequency up in 10KHz steps until I found the 
receiver at 157.5xx   If the receiver is working 
you need only hear the audio. 

> It looks like pin 8 on the molex is PTT, how is the 
> pin numbered? What does the controller look like and 
> where in the radio would it be located? 

The repeater board is under the silver hatch on the 
top of the actual rf/radio chassis.  Remove the 457,000 
small screws to pop the hood up. 

> Would it be needed if an external ham controller 
> was used like one from NHRC? If it has been removed 
> would the unit still repeat?

You can use an external controller using some jumper 
information previously posted in the group here. I 
also have a copy of it in my files if you can't find 
it easy enough. 

> Thanks for your offer to help
> BTW I'm in Miami
> John

No problem John, Miami is a very nice place but I 
don't do heat and gators very well. 

skipp 

ps:  The rear panel molex connectors and required 
pins are common to find... I also stock some of 
the higher quality types (better pin plating) for 
slightly more money if you can't find them local. 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Kenwood TKR 820

2006-03-12 Thread John
Skipp,

Thanks for the response. I'd like to pick your brain on this. I havejust 
finished a GE MastrII Exec VHF conversion and I've been in the comm 
field for 30 years so I have some experience (just to let you know I'm 
not a novice)

Yes, the cavities are external, they are a 4 can Sinclair

I got a response from another guy who had the manual on his site and was 
just now able to download it. So now I have to read it to figure out how 
it should work

But just to get me going I'd like to ask you the following

I turned the unit on and get lights. I was not able to get any audio 
from it. The busy light came on when I adjusted the squelch.
I'm not sure what freq it is on and since I didn't have the pinout for 
the mike socket I was not able to key it up and measure the freq. ( I 
now have the pinout and will try to transmit tomorrow)

The molex on the back has no mating plug in it, according to your email 
it should have one to make it work or give out audio. Which pins do I 
jumper?

I took the top cover off and saw a flat 4 pin connector flush with the 
top of the front panel and to the left of center, what is it?
What quick checks can I do?
It looks like pin 8 on the molex is PTT, how is the pin numbered?
What does the controller look like and where in the radio would it be 
located? Would it be needed if an external ham controller was used like 
one from NHRC? If it has been removed would the unit still repeat?

Thanks for your offer to help
BTW I'm in Miami

John

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[Repeater-Builder] Re: 4 Bay antenna

2006-03-12 Thread skipp025
Hi Rod, 

Might be the Cushcraft antenna or one by a number of 
other people/companies selling that design (Hustler 
for another) some years back.  The part number for the 
commercial four pole masts antenna is PF-156DA for 
the 150 MHz version and PF-457DA for the UHF version. 

The amateur version would probably have a part number 
like PF-148DA, but that's just my assumption. Radioware 
also made a dipole array for the vhf amateur band.

I have the diagrams and hook up information for that 
antenna right here. If you're nice and say good things 
behind my back I'll send you pdf file copy of the 
instruction sheet.   You need to email me direct with 
your full email address and I'll get it right out 
to you.  

I have a number of those antennas here, but they are
the commercial PF-156DA versions.  You'll see a number 
of people bad-mouth these antennas but they're really 
not bad for what they are. The weak spot is the 
consumer quality (as in not commercial) rg-58 size 
coax used to make up the harness. 

I've had one of these antennas in continual service for 
the last 15 plus years and it's still going strong 
because I put the coax harness inside some well seal 
insulated tubing. 

Why not make up a clone coax harness and replace the 
original with an RG-8 six coax.  Yes, you can make up 
a harness with Tee connectors if you like, but they 
add more mechanical issues/hardware to the antenna, 
which is something I try to minimize. 

cheers,
skipp 

ps: drop me a direct email if you want the instruction 
sheet for the antenna. 

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] 4 Bay antenna

2006-03-12 Thread Mark A. Holman
take a wander over to Cushcraft to see if the manual can be downloaded.

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexer or Band pass filter

2006-03-12 Thread Mike Quebec Mike



Dear Eric,     Thank you for you advise and really appreciate that...     73  v8mqmEric Lemmon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Mike,     Assuming 5 watts of TX power and an RX sensitivity of 0.3 uV, at your specified frequencies, a horizontal separation of 100 feet provides about 1.2 dB of isolation.  Even at the low power of 5 watts, you need about 79 dB of isolation, according to my CommShop program's
 calculation.  However, you could achieve that isolation with about 125 feet of vertical separation.  Obviously, a duplexer is far more practical!73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY   From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Quebec MikeSent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 7:00 AMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexer or Band pass filterWe I had set up 2 antenna with horizontal  separation of 100ft apart ,  however without any band pass filter even 5 watts TX power will not do. We are planning to have 147.825 RX and offset -0.6  MHz TX at 147.225  MHz, would you highly advise to use a duplexer ?        Another thing is that the repeater switch which I intent to use a software base control switch the ECHOSTATION. rather that any mechnical
 homebrew COR switch. Any advise on this.        Regards     Mike Quebec Mike"Bob M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  I think the best answer is:it depends.They tend to serve different purposes, althoughduplexers are often made with bandpass filters.On 927 MHz, you can use two antennas, and a couple ofbandpass filters might give you enough isolation.On 146 MHz, you won't get enough attenuation with twoantennas, so a duplexer is mandatory.Let us know more details. Antenna space, tower height,kind of equipment you plan on using, transmit power,etc.Bob M.==--- Mike Quebec Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:> Needs some advice here on which one is best to
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: 4 Bay antenna

2006-03-12 Thread rush8001
Hello, 
I have the same antenna, however the main elements is only about 8", I 
think this is UHF???

Does anyone know the band limits of this antenna, is it any good for 
low power repeater?

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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Decibel duplexer harness lengths

2006-03-12 Thread ve3ext
I agree- i've successfully used connectors many times to see if I'm going in 
the right direction !! 

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Decibel duplexer harness lengths

2006-03-12 Thread w8ak





When bringing commercial duplexers down try a trick that I use. Temporarily 
lengthen the cables by inserting 'right angle' adapters in each line. Not exact 
but does lengthen each cable by a half inch or so. Good test to see if longer 
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[Repeater-Builder] Decibel duplexer harness lengths

2006-03-12 Thread Jay Urish
Does anybody have the formula for the harness on a Decibel DB-4060-WOC-C?

Its a 4 can VHF duplxer. It used to be up around 155Mhz and I need to 
get it down to 145.23/144.63
It will tune the 145.23 but 144.630 just won't notch right. I suspect 
the inter-cavity harness.

Any help would be appreciated!
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] 4 Bay antenna

2006-03-12 Thread Chuck Kelsey
You have a Cushcraft  4-pole. This is not a particularly good antenna. 
Yes you can use Tee connectors. Don't place this antenna in service on 
anything that is critical, would be my suggestion.

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] 4 Bay antenna

2006-03-12 Thread Jeff DePolo WN3A
Sounds like an old Cushcraft AFM-4DA array.  Bad news.

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> electrical tape on some of the harness. There is no label or 
> markings anyplace to know what brand it might be. If I made a new 
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[Repeater-Builder] 4 Bay antenna

2006-03-12 Thread rrath
I have a 4 bay vhf antenna, with each antenna straight and not 
folded. The harness is old and cracked. Some one has used 
electrical tape on some of the harness. There is no label or 
markings anyplace to know what brand it might be. If I made a new 
harness, can I use "T" connectors? Each antenna has a gama 
match for tuning. and using mobile size coax; no markings on the 
coax either.

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexer or Band pass filter

2006-03-12 Thread Bob M.
It takes a lot of horizontal separation to achieve the
90 or so dB of isolation you need for a repeater.
Hundreds of feet. Vertical separation gives you a lot
more isolation for a lot less distance; 50 feet might
be plenty.

But with only one antenna, you'll need a good 4 or 6
section duplexer. Often found on eBay, but you could
buy one new for $1000 and up.

Bob M.
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--- Mike Quebec Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> We I had set up 2 antenna with horizontal seperation
> of 100ft apart however without any band pass filter
> even 5 watts TX power will not do. We are planning
> to have 147.825 RX and offset -0.6mhz TX at
> 147.225mhz, would you highly advise to use a
> duplexer.
>
>   Another thing is that the repeater switch which I
> intent to use a software base control switch the
> ECHOSTATION. rather that any mechnical homebrew COR
> switch. Any advise on this.
>
>
>   Regards
>
>   Mike Quebec Mike
> 
> "Bob M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   I think the best answer is:
> 
> it depends.
> 
> They tend to serve different purposes, although
> duplexers are often made with bandpass filters.
> 
> On 927 MHz, you can use two antennas, and a couple
> of
> bandpass filters might give you enough isolation.
> 
> On 146 MHz, you won't get enough attenuation with
> two
> antennas, so a duplexer is mandatory.
> 
> Let us know more details. Antenna space, tower
> height,
> kind of equipment you plan on using, transmit power,
> etc.
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[Repeater-Builder] 900 duplexer

2006-03-12 Thread Ted Bleiman K9MDM - MDM Radio
we have a 900  duplexer available
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> On 927 MHz, you can use two antennas, and a
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> On 146 MHz, you won't get enough attenuation
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexer or Band pass filter

2006-03-12 Thread Eric Lemmon





Mike,
 
Assuming 5 watts of TX power and an RX sensitivity of 0.3 
uV, at your specified frequencies, a horizontal separation of 100 feet 
provides about 1.2 dB of isolation.  Even at the low power of 5 watts, you 
need about 79 dB of isolation, according to my CommShop program's 
calculation.  However, you could achieve that isolation with about 125 feet 
of vertical separation.  Obviously, a duplexer is far more 
practical!

73, Eric Lemmon 
WB6FLY 


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Quebec 
MikeSent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 7:00 AMTo: 
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Duplexer or Band pass filter

We I had set up 2 antenna with horizontal  separation of 100ft apart ,  however without any band pass filter even 5 
watts TX power will not do. We are planning to have 147.825 RX and offset 
-0.6  
MHz TX at 147.225  MHz, would you highly advise to use a 
duplexer ?   
 
Another thing is that the repeater switch which I intent to use a 
software base control switch the ECHOSTATION. rather that any mechnical homebrew 
COR switch. Any advise on this.
 
 
Regards
 
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  different purposes, althoughduplexers are often made with bandpass 
  filters.On 927 MHz, you can use two antennas, and a couple 
  ofbandpass filters might give you enough isolation.On 146 MHz, you 
  won't get enough attenuation with twoantennas, so a duplexer is 
  mandatory.Let us know more details. Antenna space, tower 
  height,kind of equipment you plan on using, transmit 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexer or Band pass filter

2006-03-12 Thread Mike Quebec Mike



We I had set up 2 antenna with horizontal seperation of 100ft apart however without any band pass filter even 5 watts TX power will not do. We are planning to have 147.825 RX and offset -0.6mhz TX at 147.225mhz, would you highly advise to use a duplexer.     Another thing is that the repeater switch which I intent to use a software base control switch the ECHOSTATION. rather that any mechnical homebrew COR switch. Any advise on this.        Regards     Mike Quebec Mike"Bob M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  I think the best answer is:it depends.They tend to serve different purposes, althoughduplexers are often made with bandpass filters.On 927 MHz, you can use two antennas, and a couple ofbandpass filters might give
 you enough isolation.On 146 MHz, you won't get enough attenuation with twoantennas, so a duplexer is mandatory.Let us know more details. Antenna space, tower height,kind of equipment you plan on using, transmit power,etc.Bob M.==--- Mike Quebec Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:> Needs some advice here on which one is best to use> for a repeater.__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Kenwood TKR 820

2006-03-12 Thread skipp025
> John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> I have just had a TKR-820 donated to our group. It came 
> with a set of Sinclair cavities.

You folks did real well.  You didn't say the location, but 
we/I will assume the cavities are external to the repeater 
cabinet. 

> But there is no operational manual. Is there any where 
> I can find one, I checked the Kenwood site and got nowhere.

Heck, I'm a Kenwood Dealer and I don't even have one. But 
the Service Manual is around and copies can still be found 
& purchased cheap enough (if not free).  I can tell you 
quite a bit about the tkr and tkb radios through direct 
emails if you need specific information. 

> I assume it has an internal controller 

The only way to know for sure is to remove the proper covers 
and look inside.  Some of the surplus tkr-820 repeaters as 
found sold on ebay these days have had the internal controller 
removed to use the repeater with an external trunking unit. 

Kirk G. is selling tkr-820's cheap enough on ebay right now, 
but they don't include the controller. What a surprise some 
buyers are going to have when they learn the repeater is 
missing the repeater controller board. 

> Anyone here that can walk me thru' operating this.

Sure, but it would be easier to do it via direct email. 

> What are the mike connections. How do I make it tx so 
> I can find out the tx/rx freq? There is no audio out 
> even on unsquelch
> Thanks  
> John

It's a standard Kenwood mic connection as shown in the 
Service Manual.  You find a mic and key it into a proper 
device (a communications service monitor as an example). 
I have used/tested mics for sale real cheap if you need 
one (I also have new mics for sale) for your repeater, 
but it's not required for normal repeat operation. 

Or you read the programmed frequencies and ctcss/dcs 
codes using the kpg-50 programmer - with the optional 
kpg-21 pc (computer) software to make things easy. 

The kpt-50 is a stand alone hand held programmer with 
a small lcd display and keypad. You can use it with or 
without a pc connected to the serial (rs-232) comm port 
as an option. Makes it easy to save and install program 
data when you use the pc. 

If the rear panel acc connector is missing, you won't 
hear any speaker audio. 

Email me direct John and I'll be happy to help you out. 
If you're local to me, I'll reprogram your repeater for 
free. 

cheers,
skipp 
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[Repeater-Builder] has anyone got

2006-03-12 Thread steve





Hi
Iam in the UK and Iam looking for a Motorola P200 
on 50Mhz
Reason is Iam building a 6mtr amateur rptr using 2 
Ge Rangrs
and NHRC controller. It is on test at present and 
seems to work well. I need a handheld to do some tests, so if any one has one 
for sale, pls email me direct. 
 
73
 
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[Repeater-Builder] Can anyone please help this guy.....

2006-03-12 Thread n2len
A post from my echolink group
<<>>

From: "Bob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Date: Sat Mar 11, 2006  9:57 am 
Subject: Vertex VXR-7000 Repeater Question  brradioman 

I have a Vertex VXR-7000 UHF Repeater,My Question is When my repeater
times out it does not reset untill i reset it manual.I know its got 
to
be a software setting,But i have look at the setting till i almost 
gone
blind.Like to hear from anyone with a Vertex Repeater that can
helpAnd yes i have called VERTEX 3 times and they have not retrun
my calls..Bobby/N2BR



Thanks,
Len N2LEN





 








 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexer or Band pass filter

2006-03-12 Thread Mark A. Holman






Well Mike depends on which one you want ..


  Motorola
  EF Johnson
  
  General Electric
  Midland
  Mac Guires ( did I spell this wrong ? )
  Kenwood
  Icom

Moto also has some GR8 courses on training on their recent goodies such
as the Smart Zone tm ,  Convetional & Digital  repeaters  some are
on line and some are at their Il. school, I think EF Johnson has theirs
in Texas.  I have been debating to take some of their courses for Ham
Use and maybe help a 2 way friend out, and maybe future stuff but I am
working on my degree.

BTW if you want a rack there is in a warehouse in Central MI. has some
IT stuff like patch panels and ther may be a trade to some Rotary Dial
Phones 5xxx series with the brass ringers weather 1/4 mod or full mod
and brand name you could have any brand stamped, ( nobody cares  ATT,
ITT, Kitt C. Western Electric etc.. its a die thing  )  serious
inquiries pse email me privately.


Mike Quebec Mike wrote:
Needs some advice here on which one is best to use a
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] internet via uhf commercial radio

2006-03-12 Thread Ian Wells








Thanks kevin 
 

Thank You,
Ian Wells,
Kerinvale Comaudio,
www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au
 
---Original Message---
 

From: Kevin Custer
Date: 03/12/06 22:50:44
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] internet via uhf commercial radio
 
> Has anyone setup a wireless internet community where a group of users
> can use uhf radios and/or repeaters to communicate with a base station
> to access the internet instead of phone lines
 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Wireless-Internet/
 
 
> and what types of speeds can you expect?.
 
I have a small wireless set-up that feeds myself and several others.
Speeds depend on what equipment is used and how many hops it takes to
get to the source of the internet.
 
> are there any good pages on this type of setup?
 
Lots...   Google "wireless internet"
 
Kevin Custer
www.kc-wireless.com
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] internet via uhf commercial radio

2006-03-12 Thread Kevin Custer
> Has anyone setup a wireless internet community where a group of users 
> can use uhf radios and/or repeaters to communicate with a base station 
> to access the internet instead of phone lines

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Wireless-Internet/


> and what types of speeds can you expect?.

I have a small wireless set-up that feeds myself and several others.  
Speeds depend on what equipment is used and how many hops it takes to 
get to the source of the internet. 

> are there any good pages on this type of setup?

Lots...   Google "wireless internet"

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