Re: [Repeater-Builder] IC-2200H Digtal Repeater?
atms169 wrote: I want to attempt to setup a Digital Repeater on VHF using the Icom IC-2200H with optional board. I would like the D-Star system but, Hams here seem to avoid paying for that kind of money. So I would like to compensate and try something different. Has anyone ever attempted this? Did it work or has it worked well for you? Any information would be helpful. Aaron VA6AE For reference: http://www.icomamerica.com/products/amateur/2200h/ The D-Star is an open standard so it is hoped domestic hams would get the soldering irons out and design their own versions for the various manufacturers. The IC-2200H looks like it has the prior generation digital board with the same modem but not the D-Star software in it. You would have to upgrade the radio (read, sell the radio and get the newer model) to the new mobile D-Star dual-band radios just published in QST. It is not a so sorry situation. If you wanna play and burn out your new 2200, it is your money. I would think it would make more sense to buy some commercial grade gear that has the bandwidth for the digital signaling and the duty cycle for it. Use that for the digital repeater system. BTW, There has been little mention of the flexibility of the digital protocols on simplex repeaters and links as well as the full duplex repeaters. I hope your experimentation pans out. I miss the old days with the PC Clones where they would leave a copy of DEBUG in the BIOS or a back door in some of the software. We need more hooks in the new software so we can get back to the future. Pity there is little of that in the land of the rising sun. Adam Kb2jpd Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Ht repeater maker?
Gary wrote: I am looking to build up a low powered portable repeater. Using a couple of HT's. Is there any very basic (with ID) controller out there to handle speaker out audio and generate its won COR and PTT Gary Did you start with Google? : http://www.google.com/search?q=ht+repeater+controllerstart=0ie=utf-8oe=utf-8client=firefox-arls=org.mozilla:en-US:official There are a lot of kits and pre-assembled stuff out there. I find them every once and awhile in the used gear section in AES. Don't forget to get a copy of Part 97 or whatever rules you are under in your region. In the US, remote repeater control can only be done from 222 up. Do 2m and you may get into a bit of trouble. Good luck. Adam Kb2jpd Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Is my math right
A 350 Ah battery with a constent 4 amp draw will last about 87 hours ?? Johnny Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Is my math right
Aproximently. You would get slightly better accuracy from doing the math from a Watt-Hour stand point. On 5/22/06, Johnny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A 350 Ah battery with a constent 4 amp draw will last about 87 hours ?? Johnny Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Is my math right
John: You are approximately correct. The Mfg. will have a spec load and a spec low voltage where the load cuts off. A greater load than this spec and you should obtain less A/H and less than this spec load, you will receive a greater A/H rating. The hard part is to find the Mfg specs. Fred W5VAY - Original Message - From: Johnny [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 10:02 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Is my math right A 350 Ah battery with a constent 4 amp draw will last about 87 hours ?? Johnny Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] midland 13-509 tx freq stability... cap change?
Working on my midland 220 box, with new international crystals. Crystals are standard delivery, not rushed, so they should be pretty stable. They always are in my other rigs... Question: Is it worth swapping out the fixed value cap that is paralleled across the ceramic trimmer on the transmit side? Mine seems to drift around a bit more than I like. I have to assume the stock cap is an NPO type. Schematic does not state capacitance of this cap. Anybody know what it is? RF Parts sells NPO's, but is it worth it? Better ideas, if any? tnx and 73, Dave NA6DF Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] midland 13-509 tx freq stability... cap change?
Dave, Keep in mind that the Midland 13-509 was built for the Amateur Radio market, and the transmit crystals are only specified to maintain .001%, which is 10 PPM. There is no temperature compensation in the crystal circuit, and you may make the drift worse by using an NPO capacitor. If you have the time and the test equipment to do it, you can determine a crude temperature compensation by finding out how much the TX crystal drifts for a given change in temperature, then using a capacitor whose TC has an equal but opposite effect. This capacitor will definitely not be an NPO type, which is stable over a wide temperature range. In fact, you want an unstable capacitor that exactly balances the crystal drift. Commercial radios of the same vintage often used bare crystals with a color dot on the side of the can, and you were instructed to install the appropriate color TC capacitor with that particular crystal. Not perfect, but adequate. You might also consider replacing the bare TX crystal oscillator with a small TCXO unit from any of several sources, including ICM. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of na6df Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 10:48 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] [Repeater-Builder] midland 13-509 tx freq stability... cap change? Working on my midland 220 box, with new international crystals. Crystals are standard delivery, not rushed, so they should be pretty stable. They always are in my other rigs... Question: Is it worth swapping out the fixed value cap that is paralleled across the ceramic trimmer on the transmit side? Mine seems to drift around a bit more than I like. I have to assume the stock cap is an NPO type. Schematic does not state capacitance of this cap. Anybody know what it is? RF Parts sells NPO's, but is it worth it? Better ideas, if any? tnx and 73, Dave NA6DF Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: midland 13-509 tx freq stability... cap change?
Yeah, makes sense. I was just thinking along the possible lines of the cap causing the drift... at least I could eliminate that issue, if it was an issue.. df --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Eric Lemmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave, Keep in mind that the Midland 13-509 was built for the Amateur Radio market, and the transmit crystals are only specified to maintain .001%, which is 10 PPM. There is no temperature compensation in the crystal circuit, and you may make the drift worse by using an NPO capacitor. If you have the time and the test equipment to do it, you can determine a crude temperature compensation by finding out how much the TX crystal drifts for a given change in temperature, then using a capacitor whose TC has an equal but opposite effect. This capacitor will definitely not be an NPO type, which is stable over a wide temperature range. In fact, you want an unstable capacitor that exactly balances the crystal drift. Commercial radios of the same vintage often used bare crystals with a color dot on the side of the can, and you were instructed to install the appropriate color TC capacitor with that particular crystal. Not perfect, but adequate. You might also consider replacing the bare TX crystal oscillator with a small TCXO unit from any of several sources, including ICM. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of na6df Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 10:48 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] [Repeater-Builder] midland 13-509 tx freq stability... cap change? Working on my midland 220 box, with new international crystals. Crystals are standard delivery, not rushed, so they should be pretty stable. They always are in my other rigs... Question: Is it worth swapping out the fixed value cap that is paralleled across the ceramic trimmer on the transmit side? Mine seems to drift around a bit more than I like. I have to assume the stock cap is an NPO type. Schematic does not state capacitance of this cap. Anybody know what it is? RF Parts sells NPO's, but is it worth it? Better ideas, if any? tnx and 73, Dave NA6DF Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dayton webcam
Nope...Clouds and a little rain until about 1030, then cleared out and Sunshine Dan KA8YPY On May 21, 2006, at 10:57 AM, Jim Brown wrote: For those who can't be there, mms://66.231.242.90/video Bob NO6B Looks like you guys got rained out Sunday - Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] my we are a bunch of trouble makers here at Dayton
Nate, I didn't know you were at Dayton this year. I didn't see you. Wonder why? Dave, WA6IFI -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kris Kirby Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 7:37 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] my we are a bunch of trouble makers here at Dayton On Fri, 19 May 2006, Nate Duehr wrote: Very cool. And strange. It's weird to count the number of cars in the hotel parking lot that DON'T have ham plates and lots of antennas on them -- on one hand. That's oh-so-backward? ... Just another freak in the freak kingdom. -- Hunter S. Thompson -- Kris Kirby, KE4AHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU! This message brought to you by the US Department of Homeland Security Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] WTB: DTD-1 DTMF Decoders for Amateur Use...
If anyone has a few Com-Spec DTD-1 DTMF decoders in stock that they'd be willing to part with, I am looking to buy. I'll buy new or used, but I am looking for working units. Thanks! Steve, AA5SG (You can email me direct. I'm good on QRZ_dot_com...) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] my we are a bunch of trouble makers here at Dayton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nate, I didn't know you were at Dayton this year. I didn't see you. Wonder why? Dave, WA6IFI Well, I did shave the beard off a while back... ;-) Dunno Dave... was sometimes at the IRLP booth actually helping out, but they knew I was a Dayton newbie, and would lose me to the h, look at that shiny thing over there! syndrome -- a lot. Ha! Met the guys at RB, and pretty much stood around staring at things when I tried to think, Do I need one of those? Total decision-making overload. Dayton's cool. ;-) I'll be back!!! Sounds like from past reports I lucked out on the WX too... pretty nice out there. (Since I got back I have been dealing with this: http://www.natetech.com/?p=203 -- WARNING I'm pretty grumpy in that posting on my website... and my language isn't all that nice. And I'm no longer a fan of Apple. They need to dump the Apple stores or make some MAJOR changes to their policies... got my money back, and now I'm shopping for a Dell or IBM or maybe I'll just spend the money on more radio toys... but the Dayton photos are not posted now... was putting them up on mac.com until the new laptop died the first night there.) Awfully nice to meet everyone! Maybe next year too? Who knows... Also got to ride up to Dayton with Dave K9DC from Indianapolis, and got to see what it's like to live 1.5 miles from your repeater site. Heh... Dave and I went to his repeater site between breakfast and lunch on Sunday. Must be nice! Nate WY0X Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/