Re: [Repeater-Builder] IC-2200H Digtal Repeater?

2006-05-22 Thread Adam Vazquez Kb2jpd
atms169 wrote:
 I want to attempt to setup a Digital Repeater on VHF using the Icom
 IC-2200H with optional board.  

 I would like the D-Star system but, Hams here seem to avoid paying for
 that kind of money.  So I would like to compensate and try something
 different.

 Has anyone ever attempted this?

 Did it work or has it worked well for you?

 Any information would be helpful.

 Aaron
 VA6AE

   
For reference: http://www.icomamerica.com/products/amateur/2200h/

The D-Star is an open standard so it is hoped domestic hams would get 
the soldering irons out and design their own versions for the various 
manufacturers. The IC-2200H looks like it has the prior generation 
digital board with the same modem but not the D-Star software in it. You 
would have to upgrade the radio (read, sell the radio and get the newer 
model) to the new mobile D-Star dual-band radios just published in QST.

It is not a so sorry situation. If you wanna play and burn out your 
new 2200, it is your money. I would think it would make more sense to 
buy some commercial grade gear that has the bandwidth for the digital 
signaling and the duty cycle for it. Use that for the digital repeater 
system. BTW, There has been little mention of the flexibility of  the  
digital  protocols on  simplex  repeaters and links as well as the full 
duplex repeaters.

I hope your experimentation pans out. I miss the old days with the PC 
Clones where they would leave a copy of DEBUG in the BIOS or a back door 
in some of the software.  We need more hooks in the new software so we 
can get back to the future. Pity there is little of that in the land of 
the rising sun.

Adam Kb2jpd





 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Ht repeater maker?

2006-05-22 Thread Adam Vazquez Kb2jpd
Gary wrote:
 I am looking to build up a low powered portable repeater. 
 Using a couple of HT's. Is there any very basic (with ID) controller
 out there to handle speaker out audio and generate its won COR and PTT

 Gary


   
Did you start with Google? : 
http://www.google.com/search?q=ht+repeater+controllerstart=0ie=utf-8oe=utf-8client=firefox-arls=org.mozilla:en-US:official
There are a lot of kits and pre-assembled stuff out there. I find them 
every once and awhile in the used gear section in AES.

Don't forget to get a copy of Part 97 or whatever rules you are under in 
your region. In the US, remote repeater control can only be done from 
222 up. Do 2m and you may get into a bit of trouble.

Good luck.

Adam Kb2jpd










   





 
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[Repeater-Builder] Is my math right

2006-05-22 Thread Johnny
A 350 Ah battery with a constent 4 amp draw will last about 87 hours ??

Johnny





 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Is my math right

2006-05-22 Thread DCFluX
Aproximently. You would get slightly better accuracy from doing the
math from a Watt-Hour stand point.

On 5/22/06, Johnny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 A 350 Ah battery with a constent 4 amp draw will last about 87 hours ??

 Johnny






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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Is my math right

2006-05-22 Thread FHS
John: You are approximately correct. The Mfg. will have a spec load and a 
spec low voltage where the load cuts off. A greater load than this spec and 
you should obtain less A/H and less than this spec load, you will receive a 
greater A/H rating. The hard part is to find the Mfg specs.
Fred W5VAY

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[Repeater-Builder] midland 13-509 tx freq stability... cap change?

2006-05-22 Thread na6df
Working on my midland 220 box, with new international crystals. 
Crystals are standard delivery, not rushed, so they should be pretty 
stable. They always are in my other rigs...

Question: Is it worth swapping out the fixed value cap that is 
paralleled across the ceramic trimmer on the transmit side?
Mine seems to drift around a bit more than I like.

I have to assume the stock cap is an NPO type. Schematic does not 
state capacitance of this cap. Anybody know what it is? RF Parts sells 
NPO's, but is it worth it? Better ideas, if any?

tnx and 73,
Dave NA6DF









 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] midland 13-509 tx freq stability... cap change?

2006-05-22 Thread Eric Lemmon
Dave,

Keep in mind that the Midland 13-509 was built for the Amateur Radio market,
and the transmit crystals are only specified to maintain .001%, which is 10
PPM.  There is no temperature compensation in the crystal circuit, and you
may make the drift worse by using an NPO capacitor.  If you have the time
and the test equipment to do it, you can determine a crude temperature
compensation by finding out how much the TX crystal drifts for a given
change in temperature, then using a capacitor whose TC has an equal but
opposite effect.  This capacitor will definitely not be an NPO type, which
is stable over a wide temperature range.  In fact, you want an unstable
capacitor that exactly balances the crystal drift.

Commercial radios of the same vintage often used bare crystals with a color
dot on the side of the can, and you were instructed to install the
appropriate color TC capacitor with that particular crystal.  Not perfect,
but adequate.

You might also consider replacing the bare TX crystal oscillator with a
small TCXO unit from any of several sources, including ICM.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
 

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Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] [Repeater-Builder] midland 13-509 tx freq
stability... cap change?

Working on my midland 220 box, with new international crystals. 
Crystals are standard delivery, not rushed, so they should be pretty 
stable. They always are in my other rigs...

Question: Is it worth swapping out the fixed value cap that is 
paralleled across the ceramic trimmer on the transmit side?
Mine seems to drift around a bit more than I like.

I have to assume the stock cap is an NPO type. Schematic does not 
state capacitance of this cap. Anybody know what it is? RF Parts sells 
NPO's, but is it worth it? Better ideas, if any?

tnx and 73,
Dave NA6DF









 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: midland 13-509 tx freq stability... cap change?

2006-05-22 Thread na6df
Yeah, makes sense. I was just thinking along the possible lines of 
the cap causing the drift... at least I could eliminate that issue, 
if it was an issue..

df



--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Eric Lemmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Dave,
 
 Keep in mind that the Midland 13-509 was built for the Amateur 
Radio market,
 and the transmit crystals are only specified to maintain .001%, 
which is 10
 PPM.  There is no temperature compensation in the crystal circuit, 
and you
 may make the drift worse by using an NPO capacitor.  If you have 
the time
 and the test equipment to do it, you can determine a crude 
temperature
 compensation by finding out how much the TX crystal drifts for a 
given
 change in temperature, then using a capacitor whose TC has an 
equal but
 opposite effect.  This capacitor will definitely not be an NPO 
type, which
 is stable over a wide temperature range.  In fact, you want 
an unstable
 capacitor that exactly balances the crystal drift.
 
 Commercial radios of the same vintage often used bare crystals 
with a color
 dot on the side of the can, and you were instructed to install the
 appropriate color TC capacitor with that particular crystal.  Not 
perfect,
 but adequate.
 
 You might also consider replacing the bare TX crystal oscillator 
with a
 small TCXO unit from any of several sources, including ICM.
 
 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
  
 
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 From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of na6df
 Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 10:48 AM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] [Repeater-Builder] midland 13-509 tx 
freq
 stability... cap change?
 
 Working on my midland 220 box, with new international crystals. 
 Crystals are standard delivery, not rushed, so they should be 
pretty 
 stable. They always are in my other rigs...
 
 Question: Is it worth swapping out the fixed value cap that is 
 paralleled across the ceramic trimmer on the transmit side?
 Mine seems to drift around a bit more than I like.
 
 I have to assume the stock cap is an NPO type. Schematic does not 
 state capacitance of this cap. Anybody know what it is? RF Parts 
sells 
 NPO's, but is it worth it? Better ideas, if any?
 
 tnx and 73,
 Dave NA6DF
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dayton webcam

2006-05-22 Thread Dan Blasberg
Nope...Clouds and a little rain until about 1030, then cleared out and 
Sunshine

Dan
KA8YPY


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 For those who can't be there,




 mms://66.231.242.90/video



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RE: [Repeater-Builder] my we are a bunch of trouble makers here at Dayton

2006-05-22 Thread dave_novotny
Nate,
I didn't know you were at Dayton this year.  I didn't see you.  Wonder why?

Dave, WA6IFI 

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Dayton

On Fri, 19 May 2006, Nate Duehr wrote:
 Very cool.  And strange.  It's weird to count the number of cars in 
 the hotel parking lot that DON'T have ham plates and lots of antennas 
 on them -- on one hand.  That's oh-so-backward?

... Just another freak in the freak kingdom.
-- Hunter S. Thompson

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[Repeater-Builder] WTB: DTD-1 DTMF Decoders for Amateur Use...

2006-05-22 Thread aa5sg
If anyone has a few Com-Spec DTD-1 DTMF decoders in stock that they'd 
be willing to part with, I am looking to buy.  I'll buy new or used, 
but I am looking for working units.

Thanks!
Steve, AA5SG

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] my we are a bunch of trouble makers here at Dayton

2006-05-22 Thread Nate Duehr
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 Nate,
 I didn't know you were at Dayton this year.  I didn't see you.  Wonder why?
 
 Dave, WA6IFI 

Well, I did shave the beard off a while back...   ;-)

Dunno Dave... was sometimes at the IRLP booth actually helping out, but 
they knew I was a Dayton newbie, and would lose me to the h, look 
at that shiny thing over there! syndrome -- a lot.  Ha!

Met the guys at RB, and pretty much stood around staring at things when 
I tried to think, Do I need one of those?  Total decision-making 
overload.

Dayton's cool.  ;-)  I'll be back!!!

Sounds like from past reports I lucked out on the WX too... pretty nice 
out there.

(Since I got back I have been dealing with this: 
http://www.natetech.com/?p=203 -- WARNING I'm pretty grumpy in that 
posting on my website... and my language isn't all that nice.  And I'm 
no longer a fan of Apple.  They need to dump the Apple stores or make 
some MAJOR changes to their policies... got my money back, and now I'm 
shopping for a Dell or IBM or maybe I'll just spend the money on more 
radio toys... but the Dayton photos are not posted now... was putting 
them up on mac.com until the new laptop died the first night there.)

Awfully nice to meet everyone!  Maybe next year too?  Who knows...

Also got to ride up to Dayton with Dave K9DC from Indianapolis, and got 
to see what it's like to live 1.5 miles from your repeater site.  Heh... 
Dave and I went to his repeater site between breakfast and lunch on 
Sunday.   Must be nice!

Nate WY0X




 
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