[Repeater-Builder] Remotely controlling a Arcom RC210

2007-01-07 Thread georgiaskywarn
Looking at this thread on Repeater Builders; DSL Repeaters...Curious if
folks control or program their controllers remotely? Not by dtmf
either. I havent gotten the dtmf control thingy within the program to
work thru rigblaster yet.
Ideas?
Robert



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Remotely controlling a Arcom RC210

2007-01-07 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
At 05:01 AM 01/07/07, you wrote:
Looking at this thread on Repeater Builders; DSL Repeaters...Curious if
folks control or program their controllers remotely? Not by dtmf
either. I havent gotten the dtmf control thingy within the program to
work thru rigblaster yet.
Ideas?
Robert

I know of one person that uses a packet link over a 420/439mhz
point-to-point channel to remotely access the serial port on his
controller.  Except for the 1200 baud throughput bottleneck
it works OK.

On another topic...
The program available from Scom for their programs does not
use a rigblaster - it uses a serial (a.k.a  Com) port to talk to a
modem (which is uses as a touchtone generator).  The modem
audio (i.e. the phone line port) is connected either to a receiver
audio input port or to the autopatch (if that option is present).

Other controllers that do not have a serial port are programmed
other different methods.

What controller do you have, and how are you trying to program it?




[Repeater-Builder] Re: Remotely controlling a Arcom RC210

2007-01-07 Thread georgiaskywarn



 What controller do you have, and how are you trying to program it?

 Arcom RC210
Ken has a dtmf regen thing in the programming software, much like what 
you described but does it over the air.  String of dtmf's are sent and 
it does it's magic.  However I haven't been able to get this to work.  
Not sure really if many people use this function either.  Again I can 
program it with dtmf's from the radio...no problem.  Just TONS to send 
if your changing several macros.

Just thought of using some type of wireless setup.  Maybe using some 
type of ethernet to serial converter? Then put the Linksys setup Kevin 
was describing?

Thanks,
Robert



[Repeater-Builder] Re: Trade repeater stuff for UHF mobile

2007-01-07 Thread ve3ext
Jeff  Any complete repeaters., low band or vhf?? 

Jerry VE3 EXT


RE: [Repeater-Builder] Modification of Sinclair Q2220E 144Mhz duplexer to 220Mhz

2007-01-07 Thread Mike Mullarkey
Hi David,

 

I just finished modifying 6 900MHz 10 cavities to use at 440MHz for a 3
channel receive combiner. Sinclair engineers will send you a PDF of such
cavity at 220 and the loop length. At first they will be hesitant but they
will eventually send it to you. For the loops just make new loops and solder
them to the connector. For the internal rod. Unsolder the tower and leave
the finger stock alone if possible to.

 

Mike

 

Oregon Repeater Linking Group

Mike Mullarkey

6539 E Street

Springfield, OR 97478

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

www.orlg.org

 

 

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Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 11:22 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Modification of Sinclair Q2220E 144Mhz duplexer
to 220Mhz

 

I have recently aquired a functional high-split (148-174) Sinclair 
Q2220E. Since it does not have enough isolation for my 100W VHF 
repeater, and I already have a good working Q202 on there now, I am 
planning to convert this over to a Q2221E for 220Mhz.

I am pretty aware of how duplexers work and the coupling harness and 
1/4 wave characteristics, so my questions are very specific. I have a 
Q3330C (compact UHF 6 cavity) and the Q202 that I have looked at for 
comparing loops and such. I have already determined how I have to 
reduce the length of the interconnecting harness with the velocity 
factor and such.

The only questions I have are:
1) The coupling loop (with the connector and the variable capactior) 
on the Q2220E is obviously sized for 148-174. How should the 
dimensions be changed to work to 220? The reason I am confused is the 
UHF is the same length, but not as spread open. and made from wider 
copper stock. The Q202 is much more spread open and larger. What is 
the electrical/RF characteristics of this loop supposed to be?

2) I know I have to cut down the hollow rod support and the finger 
stock on the internals of the duplexer to accomodate the 1/4 wave 
resonance inside for 220. No problem. But, does the depth of the 
cavity matter? Do I have to shorten the casing as well? I know in the 
past when I removed the bottom of the large Q202 cans, the bottom 
being in place or not had little effect on the tuning. If I left the 
casing alone, would I still be able to tune it to 220?

Thanks for your insight.

Dave Cameron
VE7LTD

 



[Repeater-Builder] Re: DB413 Antenna Question

2007-01-07 Thread Laryn Lohman
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, r_s_s_i [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  Maybe I should have left it the
 way it was?


Yes, I think you should have.  Trying to make this antenna more omni
by spacing the dipoles around the pole creates large horizontal
offsets (in terms of wavelength at 70cm) between the dipoles.  You'll
end up with a strange pattern in both the horizontal and vertical
planes.  You've basically lost a fair amount of gain in most directions.  

Doing this same thing with an antenna at 2m usually is not an issue,
because of the longer wavelength.  

Laryn K8TVZ



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Remotely controlling a Arcom RC210

2007-01-07 Thread Ken Arck
At 06:14 AM 1/7/2007, you wrote:

 Arcom RC210
Ken has a dtmf regen thing in the programming software, much like what
you described but does it over the air. String of dtmf's are sent and
it does it's magic. However I haven't been able to get this to work.
Not sure really if many people use this function either. Again I can
program it with dtmf's from the radio...no problem. Just TONS to send
if your changing several macros.

-The DTMF Regen function has nothing to do with remote 
programming via RCP. From your comment re: not being able to make 
DTMF work with RigBlaster, I assume you're referring to RCP's DTMF method?

What about it can't you make work?

Ken
--
President and CTO - Arcom Communications
Makers of the world famous RC210 Repeater Controller and accessories.
http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html
Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and
we offer complete repeater packages!
AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000
http://www.irlp.net



[Repeater-Builder] Re: DB413 Antenna Question

2007-01-07 Thread georgiaskywarn
I wonder about a db420 which has had that done to.  Each loop if 90
deg off of each other.  The loops are riveted in place.  I have seen
this on a db408 in omni form...maybe this is like stacked db408's?

Wonder how the above setup would play.
Robert



--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Laryn Lohman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, r_s_s_i r_s_s_i@ wrote:
 
 
   Maybe I should have left it the
  way it was?
 
 
 Yes, I think you should have.  Trying to make this antenna more omni
 by spacing the dipoles around the pole creates large horizontal
 offsets (in terms of wavelength at 70cm) between the dipoles.  You'll
 end up with a strange pattern in both the horizontal and vertical
 planes.  You've basically lost a fair amount of gain in most
directions.  
 
 Doing this same thing with an antenna at 2m usually is not an issue,
 because of the longer wavelength.  
 
 Laryn K8TVZ





[Repeater-Builder] Re: Remotely controlling a Arcom RC210

2007-01-07 Thread georgiaskywarn
Hey Ken,
Hope things are going well.  
I guess I mis-spoke.  Under the Configure RCP tab you can choose 
either serial or dtmf.  This is where I have tried dtmf and have not 
succeeded.  Not the DTMF TestPad tab.  
Thanks,
Robert 
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Ken Arck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 At 06:14 AM 1/7/2007, you wrote:
 
  Arcom RC210
 Ken has a dtmf regen thing in the programming software, much like 
what
 you described but does it over the air. String of dtmf's are sent 
and
 it does it's magic. However I haven't been able to get this to 
work.
 Not sure really if many people use this function either. Again I 
can
 program it with dtmf's from the radio...no problem. Just TONS to 
send
 if your changing several macros.
 
 -The DTMF Regen function has nothing to do with remote 
 programming via RCP. From your comment re: not being able to make 
 DTMF work with RigBlaster, I assume you're referring to RCP's DTMF 
method?
 
 What about it can't you make work?
 
 Ken
 
--
 President and CTO - Arcom Communications
 Makers of the world famous RC210 Repeater Controller and 
accessories.
 http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html
 Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and
 we offer complete repeater packages!
 AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000
 http://www.irlp.net





Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Remotely controlling a Arcom RC210

2007-01-07 Thread Ken Arck
At 10:08 AM 1/7/2007, you wrote:

Hey Ken,
Hope things are going well.
I guess I mis-spoke. Under the Configure RCP tab you can choose
either serial or dtmf. This is where I have tried dtmf and have not
succeeded. Not the DTMF TestPad tab.

Ok, but you're still not giving enough info here. have not 
succeeded doesn't tell me anything. EXACTLY what hasn't succeeded? 
Does it continue to try to use the serial port? Does it generate DTMF 
(as evidenced by listening with your speakers) but doesn't key your 
radio? Does it key the radio but you don't get DTMF sent?

Remember, when trying to help with a problem it's very useful to know 
what the problem is!

Ken
--
President and CTO - Arcom Communications
Makers of the world famous RC210 Repeater Controller and accessories.
http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html
Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and
we offer complete repeater packages!
AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000
http://www.irlp.net



[Repeater-Builder] WTB: GE EXEC II 66 Split receiver for mobile radio

2007-01-07 Thread n9lv
Anyone by chance have a GE EXEC II 66 split receiver lying around they 
would be willing to part with?  I have a 56 split, having problems 
getting it to goto 147.885 receive.  Best I can get is about -70 dBm 
at 12 dB sinad.  So hopefully a 66 split will do a better job.

Mathew




Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: GE EXEC II 66 Split receiver for mobile radio

2007-01-07 Thread Kevin Custer
n9lv wrote:
 Anyone by chance have a GE EXEC II 66 split receiver lying around they 
 would be willing to part with?  I have a 56 split, having problems 
 getting it to goto 147.885 receive.  Best I can get is about -70 dBm 
 at 12 dB sinad.  So hopefully a 66 split will do a better job.

Isn't a 56 receiver a REAL 2 meter split?   Are you trying to use 
those High Side Injections crystals in the 56?

HSI is great for using 66 split receivers down on 2M, but it *may* hurt 
you on a 56 split.
(sort of like using LSI on a 66 on 2M)

I'd have to do some research to see what injection side is used in the 
56, so I'm just guessing here

Kevin


[Repeater-Builder] Standard RP71K Repeater

2007-01-07 Thread n4rpd
Hello to the group:

Recently acquired a nice clean Standard RP71K Repeater, this is a
conventional 800MHz repeater that looks to be in great shape. We are
looking to try and move it up to the HAM 900MHz band. I can't seem to
find any documentation, owners manual, tech manuals, etc...  If anyone
has any info they can provide, I can pay for copies and postage.

Thanks in advance,
Rob DeVega, N4RPD
Colorado Springs



[Repeater-Builder] Re: Modification of Sinclair Q2220E 144Mhz duplexer to 220Mhz

2007-01-07 Thread Harold Farrenkopf
Hello Dave,

The length of the cavity doesn't effect its operation so you won't
need to shorten it.

Scale the cable harness down to 220MHz.  Using a plier, you can work
the crimp to be round to loosen it to be reused for soldering.

The loops could be made shorter but may not be necessary since the
pass to reject and insertion loss is adjusted by the loop orientation.
 Loop size is not very important if you are able to get a 0.5dB to
0.6dB insertion loss for the pass reject frequency spacing.  Don't try
to deform the loop while it is soldered to the capacitor - it will
break the capacitor.  The loop size will determine the spacing apart
of the two notches of the Q loop as well.

Harold

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Mike Mullarkey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Hi David,
 
  
 
 I just finished modifying 6 900MHz 10 cavities to use at 440MHz for a 3
 channel receive combiner. Sinclair engineers will send you a PDF of such
 cavity at 220 and the loop length. At first they will be hesitant
but they
 will eventually send it to you. For the loops just make new loops
and solder
 them to the connector. For the internal rod. Unsolder the tower and
leave
 the finger stock alone if possible to.
 
  
 
 Mike
 
  
 
 Oregon Repeater Linking Group
 
 Mike Mullarkey
 
 6539 E Street
 
 Springfield, OR 97478
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 www.orlg.org
 
  
 
  
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ve7ltd
 Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 11:22 PM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Modification of Sinclair Q2220E 144Mhz
duplexer
 to 220Mhz
 
  
 
 I have recently aquired a functional high-split (148-174) Sinclair 
 Q2220E. Since it does not have enough isolation for my 100W VHF 
 repeater, and I already have a good working Q202 on there now, I am 
 planning to convert this over to a Q2221E for 220Mhz.
 
 I am pretty aware of how duplexers work and the coupling harness and 
 1/4 wave characteristics, so my questions are very specific. I have a 
 Q3330C (compact UHF 6 cavity) and the Q202 that I have looked at for 
 comparing loops and such. I have already determined how I have to 
 reduce the length of the interconnecting harness with the velocity 
 factor and such.
 
 The only questions I have are:
 1) The coupling loop (with the connector and the variable capactior) 
 on the Q2220E is obviously sized for 148-174. How should the 
 dimensions be changed to work to 220? The reason I am confused is the 
 UHF is the same length, but not as spread open. and made from wider 
 copper stock. The Q202 is much more spread open and larger. What is 
 the electrical/RF characteristics of this loop supposed to be?
 
 2) I know I have to cut down the hollow rod support and the finger 
 stock on the internals of the duplexer to accomodate the 1/4 wave 
 resonance inside for 220. No problem. But, does the depth of the 
 cavity matter? Do I have to shorten the casing as well? I know in the 
 past when I removed the bottom of the large Q202 cans, the bottom 
 being in place or not had little effect on the tuning. If I left the 
 casing alone, would I still be able to tune it to 220?
 
 Thanks for your insight.
 
 Dave Cameron
 VE7LTD





Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: GE EXEC II 66 Split receiver for mobile radio

2007-01-07 Thread Mathew Quaife
Thanks Kevin, I am thinking the same thing.  All the crystals that I have for 
these ge's is done on the low split, they work fine, use the HSI and the 
results are not that great.  And yes, the 56 is in the 2 meter band.  Was the 
reason that I wanted to try a 66 split to see if we can use the existing 
crystal that I have here.
   
  Mathew
  

Kevin Custer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  n9lv wrote:
 Anyone by chance have a GE EXEC II 66 split receiver lying around they 
 would be willing to part with? I have a 56 split, having problems 
 getting it to goto 147.885 receive. Best I can get is about -70 dBm 
 at 12 dB sinad. So hopefully a 66 split will do a better job.

Isn't a 56 receiver a REAL 2 meter split? Are you trying to use 
those High Side Injections crystals in the 56?

HSI is great for using 66 split receivers down on 2M, but it *may* hurt 
you on a 56 split.
(sort of like using LSI on a 66 on 2M)

I'd have to do some research to see what injection side is used in the 
56, so I'm just guessing here

Kevin


 

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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Remotely controlling a Arcom RC210

2007-01-07 Thread georgiaskywarn
It sends the dtmf's fine over the air.  I have try it with the same
computer that I run echolink (KD4YDC-R) on.  Tried it with various
delays,etc. I think it is set at 1000 right now.

Anything I should try different?  Would love to get this portion of
the program happening for me :-)
Thanks,
Robert


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Ken Arck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 At 10:08 AM 1/7/2007, you wrote:
 
 Hey Ken,
 Hope things are going well.
 I guess I mis-spoke. Under the Configure RCP tab you can choose
 either serial or dtmf. This is where I have tried dtmf and have not
 succeeded. Not the DTMF TestPad tab.
 
 Ok, but you're still not giving enough info here. have not 
 succeeded doesn't tell me anything. EXACTLY what hasn't succeeded? 
 Does it continue to try to use the serial port? Does it generate DTMF 
 (as evidenced by listening with your speakers) but doesn't key your 
 radio? Does it key the radio but you don't get DTMF sent?
 
 Remember, when trying to help with a problem it's very useful to know 
 what the problem is!
 
 Ken

--
 President and CTO - Arcom Communications
 Makers of the world famous RC210 Repeater Controller and accessories.
 http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html
 Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and
 we offer complete repeater packages!
 AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000
 http://www.irlp.net





Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Remotely controlling a Arcom RC210

2007-01-07 Thread Ken Arck
At 11:59 AM 1/7/2007, you wrote:

It sends the dtmf's fine over the air. I have try it with the same
computer that I run echolink (KD4YDC-R) on.

---Then I have no idea what you're saying the problem is. You 
haven't given much information still!

Let's move this over to the RC210 list (where we won't spam non RC210 folks!)

Ken

--
President and CTO - Arcom Communications
Makers of the world famous RC210 Repeater Controller and accessories.
http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html
Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and
we offer complete repeater packages!
AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000
http://www.irlp.net



[Repeater-Builder] Re: DB413 Antenna Question

2007-01-07 Thread Laryn Lohman
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, georgiaskywarn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 I wonder about a db420 which has had that done to. 

Hmmm  Had what done to?

 Each loop if 90
 deg off of each other.  The loops are riveted in place.  I have seen
 this on a db408 in omni form...maybe this is like stacked db408's?
 
 Wonder how the above setup would play.
 Robert
 

I'm not clear on this Robert.  As you know, the dipoles are on
opposite sides in a DB408.  Could you explain?

Laryn K8TVZ



[Repeater-Builder] Looking for a PL Reed

2007-01-07 Thread Jim, K8COP
Looking for a KLN6209A reed on 94.8 Hz.

Or will at K10008B work in its place.

Pls contact me direct at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Jim, K8COP



[Repeater-Builder] modem programming of controllers via RF link

2007-01-07 Thread Tom
Anyone have any success using this method?
The controllers such as say an ACC850 or a RI310e?

73s
NB2A



[Repeater-Builder] IOTA Power Supplies

2007-01-07 Thread Andrew
Has anybody had experience with switching power supplies from IOTA 
Engineering? I am looking at their DLS-90 90amp model. They seem to be 
worth the money. A lot cheaper than the fancy samlex supplies. 

Pros/Cons?

Andy KC2GOW
http://www.sirepeater.com



RE: [Repeater-Builder] IOTA Power Supplies

2007-01-07 Thread Richard
In my opinion, they are very good quality power supplies. I am using the
DLS-15 as a four stage charger for my home shack's batteries, and in the
year and a half I've owned it, I have had no problems at all.

Richard, N7TGB

  -Original Message-
  From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andrew
  Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 5:46 PM
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] IOTA Power Supplies


  Has anybody had experience with switching power supplies from IOTA
  Engineering? I am looking at their DLS-90 90amp model. They seem to be
  worth the money. A lot cheaper than the fancy samlex supplies.

  Pros/Cons?

  Andy KC2GOW
  http://www.sirepeater.com



  


[Repeater-Builder] DB 4072 Duplexer, Knowledge, will they tune the 440 Mhz Ham Band?

2007-01-07 Thread n9lv
I have a fellow ham who has a set of DB 4072 duplexers, wants to use 
them on a 440 repeater at about 30 watts output.  Has anyone any 
expierience tuning these duplexers, and how well if they will, work.  
They are currently set on 463 Mhz, and are designed for 450-470 Mhz.

Thanks.

Mathew




RE: [Repeater-Builder] IOTA Power Supplies

2007-01-07 Thread Jeff DePolo
The Iota supplies look and act pretty much identical to the Duracomm DPS
series models best I can tell.  I have a few 45, 55, and 75 amp models with
no failures to date.  I was a little leary when I first started buying the
Iota units because most of their literature seems to imply that they are
more oriented toward battery charging, specifically RV/marine uses, but I've
found no reason to consider them unworthy for radio service.  The Iota units
seem to be available for less cost than the equivalent Duracomm units.
 
On a somewhat related note, Duracomm got onto my $h!+ list a few months ago.
I had two older PS-75 power supplies that had failed, one due to poor
connection of the wire inserted into the compression terminal which resulted
in overheating and meltdown of the molded plastic piece surround it, and
another due to a shorted rectifier.  Duracomm wouldn't repair either,
stating that they were no longer supported, and they wouldn't provide
schematics either.  I shelved the former, and fixed the latter myself.  The
PS series Duracomm power supplies were designed and manufactured by Todd
Engineering, not Iota, IIRC.
 
--- Jeff
 


  _  

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard
Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 9:12 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] IOTA Power Supplies


In my opinion, they are very good quality power supplies. I am using the
DLS-15 as a four stage charger for my home shack's batteries, and in the
year and a half I've owned it, I have had no problems at all.
 
Richard, N7TGB
 

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andrew
Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 5:46 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] IOTA Power Supplies



Has anybody had experience with switching power supplies from IOTA 
Engineering? I am looking at their DLS-90 90amp model. They seem to be 
worth the money. A lot cheaper than the fancy samlex supplies. 

Pros/Cons?

Andy KC2GOW
http://www.sirepeat http://www.sirepeater.com er.com



 


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[Repeater-Builder] Re: IOTA Power Supplies

2007-01-07 Thread fineshot1
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Has anybody had experience with switching power supplies from IOTA 
 Engineering? I am looking at their DLS-90 90amp model. They seem to be 
 worth the money. A lot cheaper than the fancy samlex supplies. 
 
 Pros/Cons?
 
 Andy KC2GOW
 http://www.sirepeater.com


I use a DLS 75 on one of my repeaters and a DLS 55 on another. They
are excellent quality supply/chargers. My 75 has the external IQ4
smart charge module charging two 75Ah AGM batteries in parallel and
has performed flawlessly obsorbing power hits since install in June 02. 
I dont think you can go wrong with these  they are getting pretty
reasonable prices on ebay lately(picked up the 55 for less than $100).
.dan n2aym



[Repeater-Builder] Re: Need Help... where can I buy a DSL-Internet repeater...?

2007-01-07 Thread Tim and Janet
Thanks for all the information.  I will start looking for equipment and give it 
a try.  

Tim

1a. 
Re: Need Help... where can I buy a DSL-Internet repeater...? 
Posted by: Kevin Custer [EMAIL PROTECTED]   repeaterbuilder 
Fri Jan 5, 2007 6:15 am (PST) 
kb2mfs wrote:
 No I haven't tried it yet. I did some modeling and with 150mw, 20dbi 
 antennas and the antenna at the friends house mounted up 21 feet (he 
 doesn't have a tower and isn't a Ham) and the antenna mounted at 
 least 60 feet up my tower it showed a good path. This was 7.22 Km 
 and despite the non line of sight. I was hoping for 2.4 Ghz 
 equipment since it is readily available running 200mw and 24 dbi 
 antennas. I had also planned to mount the units at the antenna 
 point. I was just second guessing the software models results. I am 
 pretty cheap so didn't want to spend the money on equipment if I 
 wasn't reasonably sure it would work.
 

And is the reason why I chose to mention the WET11. They can be bought 
for $40 each or less on eBay.
 I have never used anything near 2.4 Ghz but I would think it would be 
 rather difficult to line up the antennas. Other than a rough guess 
 what is the best way to do this? It looks like every milliwatt may 
 matter in this installation. 
 

It's not really all that bad. Don't let the pointing issue scare you 
with 24 dB grids.
Now if we needed to use 6 foot dishes, then yes pointing can be interesting.

Kevin

RE: [Repeater-Builder] IOTA Power Supplies

2007-01-07 Thread Mathew Quaife
Are these switching power supplies a good idea for a repeater environement?  I 
was always under the impression they would not due to the noise they generate.  
I have 100 amp switching power supply that I was going to use on the repeater 
and opted against it.
   
  Mathew
  

Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In my opinion, they are very good quality power supplies. I am 
using the DLS-15 as a four stage charger for my home shack's batteries, and in 
the year and a half I've owned it, I have had no problems at all.
   
  Richard, N7TGB
   
-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of 
Andrew
Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 5:46 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] IOTA Power Supplies


Has anybody had experience with switching power supplies from IOTA 
Engineering? I am looking at their DLS-90 90amp model. They seem to be 
worth the money. A lot cheaper than the fancy samlex supplies. 

Pros/Cons?

Andy KC2GOW
http://www.sirepeater.com



  

 

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[Repeater-Builder] Isolator/Circulator

2007-01-07 Thread Kent Chong
Hello,

Building a combiner now. Frequency is between 400-520Mhz and power is 10W. Need 
to add isolator/circulator to improve the isolation. Anybody knows suppliers to 
provide this isolator/circulator?

Best Regards,

Kent Chong

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] IOTA Power Supplies

2007-01-07 Thread Shanon KA8SPW
 Hello Andrew,

  The following text below between the --- lines is a direct quote from 
a post I made on 6-22-05 on this same board.  The PS is still working 
fine!  NO NOISE DETECTED!   If you practice good engineering practices 
you should have the same results.  I twist all red and black conductors, 
ground everything, crimp and solder the heavy leads.  (And I use the 
$1000 commercial crimper.)  Keep leads as short as possible and the DC 
leads away from the AC leads.

  The name of the dealer that I got mine from is Master Techs at 
1-800-848-0558, the salesman was Wesley Miller.  The dealer is in 
Marshal, Michigan.  They are usually at the Marshal Michigan Swap.  They 
give a discount to hams if I remember right.
 
I bought the 55 amp unit with the external IQ-4 and paid $222 
including shipping and tax.  I believe the IQ-4 (intelligent controller) 
is now available  built in.  It is only needed if you are charging a 
battery and then only if it is other than a standard lead acid if I 
remember correctly.  

73, Shanon
--

  A few of us in the Detroit area are using the IOTA supply/charger.  We 
have them hooked to a truck size AGM (Advanced Glass Mat) battery and 
use this setup as an automatic UPC in case of power loss.  Runs all the 
radios for 48 hours plus.  We love them!!  Been in use over a year.  The 
beauty of it is the only external part you need to add is a fuse.  No 
isolator required!!
 
After reading the past articles in QST that had used two other brand 
charger/power supplies, I questioned them as to noise, since we are 
using them to power our whole base stations.  HF, packet, VHF, UHF and 
laptops.
 
  The local dealer sent me one with the promise of a full refund and he 
would pay the shipping both ways IF I was unhappy with the emitted 
noise.  I found none.  The only way I could get any noise was to stick 
the probe right into the vent holes.  I swept it with my IFR AM-FM 1500 
and a Tektronix 492.
 
I went with the 55 amp version and the optional controller since I was 
going to use an AGP battery.  Just under $200 if I remember correctly.
 
  As any self respecting ham would do, I took it apart.  Very good 
construction.  The on board fuses are in line with the DC output.  I 
will be buying more.  (Back up supply for the repeater)
--
Andrew wrote:
 Has anybody had experience with switching power supplies from IOTA 
 Engineering? I am looking at their DLS-90 90amp model. They seem to be 
 worth the money. A lot cheaper than the fancy samlex supplies. 

 Pros/Cons?

 Andy KC2GOW
 http://www.sirepeater.com





  
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Isolator/Circulator

2007-01-07 Thread Paul Guello
From a previous message on this group;
Many radio communications equipment manufacturers make
isolators: EMR, Celwave, Decibel Products, Telewave,
TX-RX, and also Andrew, Connecticut Microwave, MECA,
REC-USA, and Raditek, and many more. 
Contact suppliers such as TESSCO or TALLEY for prices.

Paul kb9wlc

--- Kent Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello,
 
 Building a combiner now. Frequency is between
 400-520Mhz and power is 10W. Need to add
 isolator/circulator to improve the isolation.
 Anybody knows suppliers to provide this
 isolator/circulator?
 
 Best Regards,
 
 Kent Chong
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Isolator/Circulator

2007-01-07 Thread Paul Guello
From a previous message on this group;
Many radio communications equipment manufacturers make
isolators: EMR, Celwave, Decibel Products, Telewave,
TX-RX, and also Andrew, Connecticut Microwave, MECA,
REC-USA, and Raditek, and many more. 
Contact suppliers such as TESSCO or TALLEY for prices.

Paul kb9wlc

--- Kent Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello,
 
 Building a combiner now. Frequency is between
 400-520Mhz and power is 10W. Need to add
 isolator/circulator to improve the isolation.
 Anybody knows suppliers to provide this
 isolator/circulator?
 
 Best Regards,
 
 Kent Chong
 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Standard RP71K Repeater

2007-01-07 Thread skipp025
Moving the RP71K up to 900 would be a $#8 ... not in my opinion 
worth the trouble.  These type/series of Standard Desktop repeaters 
are a pain to service - work on - mod - repair. 

The GE-MVP 800 goes up to 900 with reduced power.  In a few weeks 
I might let you know how some older midland syntechs work on 900 
in repeater service.

But the standard repeater is kind of self abuse... I have three 
or four in service... that love - hate type thing. 

cheers,
skipp 

 n4rpd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello to the group:
 
 Recently acquired a nice clean Standard RP71K Repeater, this is a
 conventional 800MHz repeater that looks to be in great shape. We are
 looking to try and move it up to the HAM 900MHz band. I can't seem to
 find any documentation, owners manual, tech manuals, etc...  If anyone
 has any info they can provide, I can pay for copies and postage.
 
 Thanks in advance,
 Rob DeVega, N4RPD
 Colorado Springs