Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB - VHF Repeater & Duplexer

2007-02-25 Thread Paul Metzger
Shucks, I have a couple of them here. But being in Los Angeles makes  
them useless to you (transport).

Paul Metzger
K6EH



On Feb 25, 2007, at 19:25, Tony L. wrote:

> Wanted: VHF repeater capable of operation near 146 MHz. Duplexer  
> needed
> also, but willing to purchase from alternate source.
>
> Prefer MSF5000 or other non-crystal repeater. Must be set for plug &
> play, including power supply & cabinet.
>
> Send full details, photos, and asking price.
>
> Located near NYC. Can pick up anywhere from D.C. to Maine.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>



[Repeater-Builder] 440-450 Utah Band Plan

2007-02-25 Thread Mr John Lloyd
Here in Utah, our amateur repeaters share sites with
commercial and the broadcasters repeaters. We chose
the Low in/Hi out plan on UHF so that our amateur
repeaters could co-exist with them at our mountain top
sites and not get de-sensed with the numerous 450.xxx
broadcasters and 451.xxx commercial repeaters.

We could not see having our amateur repeater receivers
at 449.xxx being so close to the 100 watt 450.xxx and
451.xxx repeater transmitters.

To avoid intermod that can be generated at the site,
we install dual isolators to get around 70 db of
isolation on our transmitters and we use band pass
type cavities and or BpBr duplexers on every repeater.
Some locations have transmitter combiners that use
dual isolators on each port. Everyone cooperates and
keeps their sites clean and removes unused antennas
and hardware from their towers. This has proven to be
sound engineering practice for our repeaters.

These repeaters are located at Farnsworth Peak which
is 18 miles west of Salt Lake City where it is
classified as the 3rd most RF populated site in the
USA! 

All of the local NTSC, DTV, FM Broadcast and most all
Two Way repeater systems are located here. 

I also own and operate several VHF and UHF repeaters.

John Lloyd, K7JL
Utah VHF Society Frequency Coordinator





Posted by: "k7pfj" [EMAIL PROTECTED] k7pfj
Date: Sun Feb 25, 2007 7:52 am ((PST))

Being the chairman on a repeater cordination councel
and having many operational UHF repeaters. One could
only wish that the band plans were the same as in the
country but everyone has to be a little bit differant.
We the hams dictate what we want to do and if we all
in 
the country could decide on a band plan that is
standard it would make cordination a little more
pleasant to deal with. Cal guys on the middle sound
like they are getting screwed. 

Here in Oregon we are Low out and high in. Well thats
nice but when you are offered to combine into a site
combining system things have to be done to accomidate
the low freqs. It we were all low in and high out it
would, one help all of us in the since you would get
your recievers away from the 450 stuff and keep the
trasmitters all together. You would most likley notice
that your repeaters would recieve better. More than
half of my repeaters run through combining and when
were building the combining we make provisions for
hams to have some slots so we can have everthing on
the site run through the site antennas. How about a 5
channel ham VHF combiner with all repeaters
operational and work great.

73


K7PFJ


 

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] WTB - VHF Repeater & Duplexer

2007-02-25 Thread Butch Kanvick
HI, Tony.
I have a Ma/Com Mastr III VHF 136-150 MHZ. 110 watts power.

Synthesized.

Butch, KE7FEL/r


From: "Tony L." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] WTB - VHF Repeater & Duplexer
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 03:25:08 -

Wanted: VHF repeater capable of operation near 146 MHz. Duplexer needed
also, but willing to purchase from alternate source.

Prefer MSF5000 or other non-crystal repeater. Must be set for plug &
play, including power supply & cabinet.

Send full details, photos, and asking price.

Located near NYC. Can pick up anywhere from D.C. to Maine.




[Repeater-Builder] AEE Dc remote controle and MSR parts wanted

2007-02-25 Thread gervais

hi all

i just found here a copy of the AEE "DC Remote Control" ,,it is wriiten
inside also like a model RD11 and RD12 .it is like an old telephone and
a 120 vac cable is attach to it,i can send pictures

in the spec sheets i have the shematic too

and i am looking for a station here a replacement for this motorola 
parts in a MSR 2000,

it is the Rf Preamp TLD 8422B ,it is a transistor or a mosfet i dont
know but his Moto Parts is 9730 ,does someone knows a replacement
please? i will send your QSP at the radio cllub,

thanks for your help

73/s

gervais,ve2ckn






[Repeater-Builder] WTB - VHF Repeater & Duplexer

2007-02-25 Thread Tony L.
Wanted: VHF repeater capable of operation near 146 MHz. Duplexer needed 
also, but willing to purchase from alternate source.

Prefer MSF5000 or other non-crystal repeater. Must be set for plug & 
play, including power supply & cabinet.

Send full details, photos, and asking price.

Located near NYC. Can pick up anywhere from D.C. to Maine.




Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Narrowbanding

2007-02-25 Thread mch
11.0 kHz BW - 2.5 kHz deviation.

Joe M.

Coy Hilton wrote:
> 
> I THINK IT'S +/- 2.5KHz If I remember with a 12.5Khz wide
> channelthis week.
> 
> --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Dick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > George:
> >
> > What do you mean by narrowbanding?
> > What's the current FM deviation on the radios?
> > Way back when, it was called narrowbanding when the FCC changed
> > from +/- 15 KHz to +/- 5 KHz FM dev.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Dick W1NMZ
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "George Henry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: 25 February, 2007 12:04
> > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Narrowbanding
> >
> >
> > > Has anyone narrowbanded a Mitrek, MastrII, or Johnson PPL6060
> with
> > > Com-Spec's narrowband filter kits?  Is it really worth doing?
> > >
> > > $25 per radio is $25 I could use elsewhere, if not.
> > >
> > >
> > > George, KA3HW / WQGJ413
> >
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 


[Repeater-Builder] Re: Narrowbanding

2007-02-25 Thread Coy Hilton
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Coy Hilton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

I THINK IT'S +/- 2.5KHz If I remember with a 12.5Khz wide 
channel. That's for UHF. It's +/- 2.5Khz with a 15Khz channel at VHF.



> 
> --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Dick"  wrote:
> >
> > George:
> > 
> > What do you mean by narrowbanding?
> > What's the current FM deviation on the radios?
> > Way back when, it was called narrowbanding when the FCC changed
> > from +/- 15 KHz to +/- 5 KHz FM dev.
> > 
> > 73,
> > 
> > Dick W1NMZ
> > 
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "George Henry" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: 25 February, 2007 12:04
> > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Narrowbanding
> > 
> > 
> > > Has anyone narrowbanded a Mitrek, MastrII, or Johnson PPL6060 
> with 
> > > Com-Spec's narrowband filter kits?  Is it really worth doing?
> > > 
> > > $25 per radio is $25 I could use elsewhere, if not.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > George, KA3HW / WQGJ413
> >
>




[Repeater-Builder] Re: Narrowbanding

2007-02-25 Thread Coy Hilton
I THINK IT'S +/- 2.5KHz If I remember with a 12.5Khz wide 
channelthis week.

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Dick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> George:
> 
> What do you mean by narrowbanding?
> What's the current FM deviation on the radios?
> Way back when, it was called narrowbanding when the FCC changed
> from +/- 15 KHz to +/- 5 KHz FM dev.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Dick W1NMZ
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "George Henry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: 25 February, 2007 12:04
> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Narrowbanding
> 
> 
> > Has anyone narrowbanded a Mitrek, MastrII, or Johnson PPL6060 
with 
> > Com-Spec's narrowband filter kits?  Is it really worth doing?
> > 
> > $25 per radio is $25 I could use elsewhere, if not.
> > 
> > 
> > George, KA3HW / WQGJ413
>




Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola gm350

2007-02-25 Thread William Fourneau
 look in cqham.com for relative software.

WILLIAM A. FOURNEAU M.


(0412-7569062) (DIGITEL)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  - Original Message - 
  From: Thomas 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 12:08 PM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola gm350


  Hello all, our local group here in germany owns a gm350 and we are looking 
for software 
  to program this aquippement to work as a repeater on the 2-meters-band. Any 
ideas?
  73 thomas dh1ykt



   

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Narrowbanding

2007-02-25 Thread Dick
George:

What do you mean by narrowbanding?
What's the current FM deviation on the radios?
Way back when, it was called narrowbanding when the FCC changed
from +/- 15 KHz to +/- 5 KHz FM dev.

73,

Dick W1NMZ

- Original Message - 
From: "George Henry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: 25 February, 2007 12:04
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Narrowbanding


> Has anyone narrowbanded a Mitrek, MastrII, or Johnson PPL6060 with 
> Com-Spec's narrowband filter kits?  Is it really worth doing?
> 
> $25 per radio is $25 I could use elsewhere, if not.
> 
> 
> George, KA3HW / WQGJ413 



[Repeater-Builder] Narrowbanding

2007-02-25 Thread George Henry
Has anyone narrowbanded a Mitrek, MastrII, or Johnson PPL6060 with 
Com-Spec's narrowband filter kits?  Is it really worth doing?

$25 per radio is $25 I could use elsewhere, if not.


George, KA3HW / WQGJ413 




[Repeater-Builder] Motorola gm350

2007-02-25 Thread Thomas
Hello all, our local group here in germany owns a gm350 and we are looking for 
software 
to program this aquippement to work as a repeater on the 2-meters-band. Any 
ideas?
73 thomas dh1ykt



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Kenwood TK-840

2007-02-25 Thread Andrew G.
Thanks skipp and others who replied direct for the help. Exactly what I needed 
to know and maybe more.
   
  Andy KC2GOW 
   

 
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[Repeater-Builder] Need Manual for Spectrum SCR1000 222mhz Repeater

2007-02-25 Thread n6nmz
Hi, Anyone have a manual for a Spectrum SCR2000?  I am looking for 
schematics/information so that I can interface to seperate controller. 
Thanks, Eric Homa - N6NMZ.



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Zetron Model 37 "Repeaterman" and Model 40 "Worldpatch"

2007-02-25 Thread Mike Morris

Would love to have it.

Try sending it to my callsign at repeater-builder.com

Thanks in advance..

Mike

At 09:31 AM 02/25/07, you wrote:
Hello Mike, I have a pdf copy of the zetron model 37 manual, I can 
send you via email, or snail mail. It's a pretty big file, so if you 
have an email address that handles big files I can send it to you. I 
use the 37 on 5 portable repeaters for our local ARES group here in colorado.


73 Dirk N2PDQ


Mike


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Model 37 "Repeaterman" and Model 40 "Worldpatch"

2007-02-25 Thread Dick
Mike, you might just call Zetron and ask them for the tech docs you need.
I bought a set for a Zetron gadget I acquired and they were quite helpful.
Also, the price was quite reasonable.  I don't recall how much it was, but
it was definitely well within my ham budget, which is miniscule.

73,

Dick W1NMZ/6

- Original Message - 
From: "Mike Morris WA6ILQ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: 24 February, 2007 21:43
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Model 37 "Repeaterman" and Model 40 
"Worldpatch"


> Well, I was given an interesting box today to see if it can
> be moved to an amateur channel...
>
> It has a Spectrum receiver (on 469.0625 !) and a Hamtronics
> TA451 transmitter (!) in it, along with a Zetron "Model 37
> Repeaterman" (part number on the bottom is 901-9241) and
> a Model 40 Worldpatch (901-9193).
>
> Does anybody have a paper or PDF manual on the Zetrons?
>
> I think I'm going to replace the radio side with something a bit 
> different.
>
> Mike 



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Zetron Model 37 "Repeaterman" and Model 40 "Worldpatch"

2007-02-25 Thread N2PDQ
Hello Mike, I have a pdf copy of the zetron model 37 manual, I can send you via 
email, or snail mail. It's a pretty big file, so if you have an email address 
that handles big files I can send it to you. I use the 37 on 5 portable 
repeaters for our local ARES group here in colorado.


73 Dirk N2PDQ


  - Original Message - 
  From: skipp025 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 9:37 AM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Zetron Model 37 "Repeaterman" and Model 40 
"Worldpatch"


  > Mike Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  > If it's all normal-width pages then a xerox will do.

  "Xerox" Mike..? 

  You are old... and making me feel old because I know what 
  you meant. 

  s. 



   


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[Repeater-Builder] Re: deviation meter in Motorola test set?

2007-02-25 Thread nj902
You guessed right!

The deviation meter panel contains an oscillator injection buffer amp,
mixer, 455 IF strip, discriminator, audio amp, and deviation meter.

You can use either the peaking generator or an external signal generator.

--

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "wb6ymh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I just picked up a S1059B Motorola test set at the swap meet yesterday
that has the peaking generator and deviation meter panel options.  
 
I'll probably never use it, but I'm curious how the deviation panel is
used.  There are BNC connectors on it for an antenna and OSC.  I'm
assuming the peaking generator is jumpered to the deviation panel for
use as a local oscillator. Did I guess right, do I get a fish biscuit?
 
 73's Skip WB6YMH



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 440-450 band plan (The normal North vs So Cal :-)

2007-02-25 Thread mch
Based on this argument, why is the commercial 450-460 band not inverted
from the commercial 460-470 band? The same logic would apply.

If ham repeaters were LIHO, the mixing between two systems would be much
worse. For example, you could not have a 443/8.500 MHz repeater co-site
with a 458/3.500 MHz repeater. The TXs would each mix to end up on the
other's input frequency. Keeping everything HILO gives you much more
margin (attenuation/spectrum/filtering) to work with.

There is also the additional problem that some commercial equipment is
much harder to get to RX in the low end of 440-450. It's generally
easier to move a TX farther out of band than a RX.

HILO also keeps the user RXs (with much more poor selectivity) from
overloading due to the adjacent commercial TXs. With HILO, they are all
at least 5 MHz away.

Joe M.

k7pfj wrote:
> 
> Here in Oregon we are Low out and high in. Well thats nice but when
> you are offered to combine into a site combining system things have
> to be done to accomidate the low freqs. It we were all low in and
> high out it would, one help all of us in the since you would get your
> recievers away from the 450 stuff and keep the trasmitters all
> together. You would most likley notice that your repeaters would
> recieve better.


RE: [Repeater-Builder] deviation meter in Motorola test set?

2007-02-25 Thread Eric Lemmon
Skip,

Some versions of that Test Set had the deviation meter conversion.  If you
can find a copy, the manual you need is Motorola Publication 6881011A01,
which is described as "S1056A/B/C-S1059A/B/C Portable Test Sets S1062C
Conversion Kit (for SLN1000A/B Deviation Meter Panel)."  Unfortunately, that
manual went out of print many years ago.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
 

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wb6ymh
Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 8:15 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] deviation meter in Motorola test set?

I just picked up a S1059B Motorola test set at the swap meet yesterday 
that has the peaking generator and deviation meter panel options. 
I'll probably never use it, but I'm curious how the deviation panel is 
used. There are BNC connectors on it for an antenna and OSC. I'm 
assuming the peaking generator is jumpered to the deviation panel for 
use as a local oscillator. Did I guess right, do I get a fish biscuit?

73's Skip WB6YMH




Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: deviation meter in Motorola test set?

2007-02-25 Thread Richard W W Bazell Jr
Bought mine for the Cable with Motrac Adapter as Years ago I bought an
New Motorola panel for $10..00 without the cables. Did not have the Micor
adapter Cable with it,but all I have is old Motracs & Motran equipment.
Tks for the reply.

Wesley AB8KD


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: deviation meter in Motorola test set?

2007-02-25 Thread Richard W W Bazell Jr
Fine Jeff. Let me know how much you want for it. offline.Thanks

[EMAIL PROTECTED]


[Repeater-Builder] Re: deviation meter in Motorola test set?

2007-02-25 Thread wb6ymh
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Richard W  W Bazell Jr 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Just Curious to how much you paid for it.I Bought one this year at Ft
> Wayne Hamfest.$50.00. it also has all the goodies. Woukd be good to 
have
> a manual on it. Have built Peaking Generators in the past, when I 
didn't
> have the Wavetec Station monitor.Using an 3rd overtone Xtal & ckt to
> control the RF output. You could align the Olds GE Progress Line 
Radios &
> Motorola Tbe Equipment(T43GGT)
> 
> Wesley AB8KD

$35 with tube/Motrac/Micor style cables. They appear fairly frequently 
on ebay but often without cables.  All I really wanted was the meter, 
I'm tired of tuning up radios with a DVM!

73's Skip WB6YMH



[Repeater-Builder] Re: deviation meter in Motorola test set?

2007-02-25 Thread Jeff Kincaid
I don't have the dev meter in mine, so I'm not sure what the manual
says about that.  But I think I do have an extra copy of that manual...

Jeff

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "wb6ymh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I just picked up a S1059B Motorola test set at the swap meet yesterday 
> that has the peaking generator and deviation meter panel options.  
> I'll probably never use it, but I'm curious how the deviation panel is 
> used.  There are BNC connectors on it for an antenna and OSC.  I'm 
> assuming the peaking generator is jumpered to the deviation panel for 
> use as a local oscillator. Did I guess right, do I get a fish biscuit?
> 
> 73's Skip WB6YMH
>




Re: [Repeater-Builder] deviation meter in Motorola test set?

2007-02-25 Thread Richard W W Bazell Jr
Just Curious to how much you paid for it.I Bought one this year at Ft
Wayne Hamfest.$50.00. it also has all the goodies. Woukd be good to have
a manual on it. Have built Peaking Generators in the past, when I didn't
have the Wavetec Station monitor.Using an 3rd overtone Xtal & ckt to
control the RF output. You could align the Olds GE Progress Line Radios &
Motorola Tbe Equipment(T43GGT)

Wesley AB8KD


[Repeater-Builder] Re: Zetron Model 37 "Repeaterman" and Model 40 "Worldpatch"

2007-02-25 Thread skipp025
> Mike Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If it's all normal-width pages then a xerox will do.

"Xerox" Mike..? 

You are old... and making me feel old because I know what 
you meant. 

s. 



[Repeater-Builder] Re: Kenwood TK-840

2007-02-25 Thread skipp025

Hi Andy, 

For the TK-840 Mobile you should obtain the kct-19 accessory cable 
and a copy of the service manual.  Most of the functions you're asking 
about are brought out to the rear connnector supplied on the end 
("flying lead") of the plug and play cable. 

Your local Kenwood Dealer should be able to supply everything. If 
not Kenwood Parts "Pac-parts" is another public source you can use 
your credit card to order what you need. 

cheers, 
skipp 

> "Andrew G." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Does anybody have info on this radio? Specifically I am looking for
where to get COR/PTT/AUDIO to use this as a link radio. Any help is
appreciated.
>
>   Thanks
>   Andy KC2GOW
>   http://www.sirepeater.com
>




[Repeater-Builder] deviation meter in Motorola test set?

2007-02-25 Thread wb6ymh
I just picked up a S1059B Motorola test set at the swap meet yesterday 
that has the peaking generator and deviation meter panel options.  
I'll probably never use it, but I'm curious how the deviation panel is 
used.  There are BNC connectors on it for an antenna and OSC.  I'm 
assuming the peaking generator is jumpered to the deviation panel for 
use as a local oscillator. Did I guess right, do I get a fish biscuit?

73's Skip WB6YMH




[Repeater-Builder] Re: 440-450 band plan (The normal North vs So Cal :-)

2007-02-25 Thread k7pfj
Being the chairman on a repeater cordination councel and having many 
operational UHF repeaters. One could only wish that the band plans 
were the same as in the country but everyone has to be a little bit 
differant. We the hams dictate what we want to do and if we all in 
the country could decide on a band plan that is standard it would 
make cordination a little more pleasant to deal with. Cal guys on the 
middle sound like they are getting screwed. 

Here in Oregon we are Low out and high in. Well thats nice but when 
you are offered to combine into a site combining system things have 
to be done to accomidate the low freqs. It we were all low in and 
high out it would, one help all of us in the since you would get your 
recievers away from the 450 stuff and keep the trasmitters all 
together. You would most likley notice that your repeaters would 
recieve better. More than half of my repeaters run through combining 
and when were building the combining we make provisions for hams to 
have some slots so we can have everthing on the site run through the 
site antennas. How about a 5 channel ham VHF combiner with all 
repeaters operational and work great.

73


K7PFJ





--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Mike Morris WA6ILQ 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> At 03:27 PM 02/23/07, you wrote:
> >Hi Mike,
> >
> >Even more fun is the frequent band openings.  One repeater in the
> >SF Bay Area will lock up its reverse co-channel So Cal machine. 
Both
> >have no practical time-out timers. Happens more than a few times
> >a month... sometimes a few times in one week.
> 
> Yep.  All the more reason to require PL'd inputs and make sure that
> systems don't have compatible PL tones with the one on the 
reverse...
> 
> >I can't help it if you guys are "upside down"...  :-)
> 
> Nh, YOU'RE upside down !!! (Grin)
> 
> Mike
> 
> >cheers,
> >s.
> >
> > > Careful there - NorCal is repeater-input high, and repeater-
output
> > > low, SoCal is the reverse.  Dividing line is the Santa Maria 
River.
> > > There are valid arguments for each method... Makes it lots of 
fun
> > > for the guys in the middle ... they have to pick the frequencies
> > > carefully to avoid lockups and a system output capturing someone
> > > elses input.
>




Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 440-450 band plan (The normal North vs So Cal :-)

2007-02-25 Thread Maxwell D Pratt