[Repeater-Builder] Re: Crystalls required

[Ron Wright, Skywarn Coodinator]

TA4T,

I recommend using International Crystal at 800-725-1426.  

All you need to tell them is make of radio (Micor, GE Exec, etc), 
frequency for TX and RX, method of payment (most all accept credit 
cards) and address to send the crystal.  They know all else needed; 
IFs, tx multi, cut, etc.

You can get quick deliever, but the quicker the more it cost.

73, ron, n9ee/r




--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "atdengiz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Dear Friends,
> 
> My club, ANTRAK (Radio Amateur's Club of Ankara), is converting 
> the frequencies of the out of band VHF repeaters (5 Ea)to Ham Band
> (144-146 MHz) to be able to use them for amateur service.
> 
> 1- We are looking for the sources of the crystals needed and kindly
> ask the group where to order from stock ; or, for cutting to exact 
> frequencies.
> 
> 2- What are the parameters needed to order the crystals. 
> The freq. of the repeaters are in between ;
> Rx 145.000 to 145.175 ,IF is 21.4 MHz (25 KHz step 8 of them needed)
> Tx 145.600 to 145.775  , (25 KHz step 8 of them needed)
> For the original crystalls ;
> Rx crystalls Fc= (f-21.4)/2
> Fx crystalls Fc= f/9
> 
> Answers coluld be sent to my direct adress if needed.
> My e-mail is:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Any help is appreceated.
> Thanks,
> 
> A.Tahir DENGIZ, TA2T
> Golbasi - Ankara - TURKIYE
>

[Repeater-Builder] Re: MOTOROLA Rib Error

[Ron Wright, Skywarn Coodinator]

Jim,

Wonder if this is with one of your radios or is consistant with others.

One note is the speed of the computer.  RS232 at a particlar baud rate 
is the same for all computers except for the data speed determind by 
the time between bytes.  Some have commented newer high speed computers 
work too fast.The radio might not be able to respond quickly enough 
if the data is fed too fast.  I use an old 486.

If your situation is intermitment it might be on the edge of where it 
will work and not work.

73, ron, n9ee/r



--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Cicirello" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Hi Guys,
> I am having an intermittent programming problem with my Motorola Rib
> Box. This is
> one of the after market rib boxes that works great 95% of the time and
> the other 5% I get an error message Serial BUS FAILURE POWER FAULT. My
> radio is powered up, my battery is good in the rib box and the box is
> on, I have used two different cables, and still the error.What would I
> look for? I have looked for solder joints on the db25's and all look
> good. I  have pinned out the cables, all good. Any ideas would be
> greatly appreciated. Thank JIM
>

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: [Fwd: [SCOM-Controllers] 7330 pricing and other news]

[w5zit]

I bought one of Al's early release controllers and have had it in 
service for six months or so now. He was nice enough to replace my 
first firmware with an updated version to fix a bug or two, although 
whatever he fixed had not caused me any problems.

My repeater is interfaced into EchoLink, and I documented my interface 
and sent a schematic and writeup along to Al to post on his web site 
when he has a chance. I am using the CTCSS decode in the PSE508 
controller to control access to both the repeater and EchoLink, and 
works like a charm. I was able to pull the GE decoder out and go with 
just the PSE508.

He has another neat option in the PSE508-2 which allows in-band linking 
to EchoLink or IRLP. He encodes CTCSS and has the option to terminate 
the encode as soon as a user unkeys, so the ID and squelch tail/bubble 
up are not transmitted to the linked system. This is one of the few 
controllers to offer this option. I have an old Zetron 38A on a 
repeater with an inband link using this trick and works like a charm.

73 - Jim W5ZIT

Nate wrote:

You also forgot to mention Al Psion's "GE card cage" controller too
-- it's a NEAT product for a stand-alone GE MASTR II station-based
repeater. He's already put out a few different versions of firmware
and has some nifty ideas for that controller up his sleeves too.

Recently an e-mail I sent him lead to a very nice phone conversation
about how an IRLP node might be linked into his controller, and while
it'd take some effort, Al was more than willing to offer up ideas and
point out things about the controller on the schematic that I hadn't
noticed in passing.

I can say wholeheartedly that Al is definitely another "good guy" to
have building controllers in our hobby, and if I ever find enough
time to finish up my personal "backyard" repeater, it'll probably
have one of Al's controllers in it -- I don't need anything fancy,
and of course, I'm a big MASTR II fan... just because I'm more
comfortable with them than anything else... so Al's controller in a
card slot will probably do "just fine" for what I'm looking to do.

Hopefully, I can return his thoughtfulness and document anything I
come up with that works well for hanging IRLP off the station with
his controller in it.


- WY0X

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Some East and West Coast Repeaters - Mandate to 5 Watts Max

[Adam Vazquez Kb2Jpd]

It is probably tempororay until the Chinese debris is accounted for. The
military is interested  in  knowing what kind of mechanism  is used for the
anit-sat system.

Adam Kb2Jpd


On 5/15/07, Nate Duehr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



On May 14, 2007, at 2:13 PM, Rick Parrish wrote:

> Chuck Kelsey wrote:
>> That's not the way it's going to work. Remember, amateur radio is a
>> secondary user on this band and the federal government is the primary
>> user. If we make too big of a fuss, we could loose it all.
> I understand you. My point is ... this is military hardware where
> people's lives are at stake. If 50 or so watts is all the enemy
> needs to
> render the equipment useless ... it shouldn't be used for this
> application.

Chuck,

A conversation I had with some folks who really understand RADAR
systems, led to an interesting theory...

PAVE-PAWS is probably trying to see/track some VERY small targets, if
local UHF repeaters are bothering them.

The best scientifically-based theory we came up with off-line, was
that the bits and pieces of the results of the Chinese testing their
anti-satellite technology against their own bird recently, created so
much on-orbit crap and debris, that every available resource that can
"see" those bits and chunks -- which are all very dangerous to other
satellites and launches, as all on-orbit debris is -- that systems
like PAVE-PAWS are being pushed to their limits to see all of it.

We may have the Chinese government to "thank" for the recent need to
enforce (the rules aren't new) the ERP rules near the RADAR sites.

Seems reasonable to me, after thinking about it. And just weird
enough to have a ring of truth, considering the strange things that
happen in the world.

The only unreasonable part of those rules is the complete coverage by
those ERP rules of ALL of Arizona... that is probably excessive. But
there haven't been reports of it being enforced there, yet.

--
Nate Duehr - WY0X

 

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Some East and West Coast Repeaters - Mandate to 5 Watts Max

[Jim]

Nate Duehr wrote:

> We may have the Chinese government to "thank" for the recent need to  
> enforce (the rules aren't new) the ERP rules near the RADAR sites.

Waayy OT, but how many people know that bank we're seeing ads for now, 
HSBC, is the Bank of China? You know, state-run by the government?
Giving them money is supporting the government of China...

-- 
Jim Barbour
WD8CHL

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: RLC-DSP404 pictures and specs

[Allan Overcast]

Yes we do.  The web page we are finding is missing a few items.  The person 
that designed the new site left for another job, and it looks like the site was 
not finished.
   
  Allan Overcast KF7FW
  Link Communications, Inc.
  www.link-comm.com

wb6ymh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  While you're at it ... I can no longer find any of the accessories
like the RLC-MOT Micor squelch card on the WEB site. I hope you still
make it!

73's Skip WB6YMH
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Allan Overcast
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The prices are available once you click on the controller, then the
purchasing link. It takes you to either a .pdf or html pricelist. I
will get a link moved out to the controller main page, good point.
> 
> Thanks,
> Allan Overcast KF7FW
> Link Communications, Inc.
> www.link-comm.com
> 
> Doug W7FDF <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Just curious Allan on your new Link-Comm website
> [http://www.link-comm.com/]that I just checked out. I noticed [but
> could have overlooked a link] that there are no price list for any of
> the Link-Comm products. Why is that??
> 
> Doug W7FDF
> Vail, Arizona U.S.A.
> 
> --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Allan Overcast
>  wrote:
> >
> > Information about the new RLC-DSP404 will be released on Monday. 
> For those going to Dayton stop by our booth and.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: MOTOROLA Rib Error

[Adam Vazquez Kb2Jpd]

You should consider using one of the old HP handheld PCs. It uses the old
tech and it comes with a comport. Friends of mine have been using it with
the old RIB software and its work fine with it. FYI.
http://www.google.com/search?q=HP+LX+200&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

Adam Kb2jpd

On 5/15/07, Ron Wright, Skywarn Coodinator <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


  Jim,

Wonder if this is with one of your radios or is consistant with others.

One note is the speed of the computer. RS232 at a particlar baud rate
is the same for all computers except for the data speed determind by
the time between bytes. Some have commented newer high speed computers
work too fast. The radio might not be able to respond quickly enough
if the data is fed too fast. I use an old 486.

If your situation is intermitment it might be on the edge of where it
will work and not work.

73, ron, n9ee/r

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com,
"Jim Cicirello" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Hi Guys,
> I am having an intermittent programming problem with my Motorola Rib
> Box. This is
> one of the after market rib boxes that works great 95% of the time and
> the other 5% I get an error message Serial BUS FAILURE POWER FAULT. My
> radio is powered up, my battery is good in the rib box and the box is
> on, I have used two different cables, and still the error.What would I
> look for? I have looked for solder joints on the db25's and all look
> good. I have pinned out the cables, all good. Any ideas would be
> greatly appreciated. Thank JIM
>

 

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Macro & Prefix formats for multi site programming

[Ed Yoho]

Nate Duehr wrote:

>On May 14, 2007, at 12:45 AM, Ed Yoho wrote:
>
>  
>
>>The whole reason for my initial post was to find out if the new S-COM
>>7330 can / will support pre-access. It does not mean everyone must use
>>pre-access - just those who want to. If it does / will, it can be
>>considered for use within systems that utilize pre access. If it does
>>not, it goes on the 'does not meet our needs' list.
>>
>>Ed Yoho
>>WA6RQD
>>
>>
>
>Ed,
>
>We've been doing this for a long time with the S-Com Windows  
>Programmer software out here... a master file with a macro (not to be  
>confused with controller macros, but in the programmer software  
>itself) that can replace digits in the file with a "site code", so  
>our most used features will be programmed into each controller.
>
>So I guess the answer is, technically ANY controller with the  
>capability of building custom user-definied macros has the capability  
>you're asking for by default... the first couple of digits of the  
>macro becomes the "site code" and the rest is standardized as the  
>"command" part.
>
>If you're hand programming, you have to be careful to put it all in  
>correctly.  Using the programming software and pre-written files  
>helps to keep it all straight if you have multiple sites.
>
>Macros are wonderful things -- they allow the repeater controller  
>programmer to create "modes" or "features" that require multiple low- 
>level events to happen in the system, that have a single (hopefully  
>short and simple) command to trigger all those events.
>
>--
>Nate Duehr - WY0X
>
>
>  
>
Nate and all,

I feel like this is being beat to death, but I will try again. What you 
are doing above is not the same as site preaccess / prefixing as 
implemented on larger linked systems.

The method above gives 27 separate commands (example 27 pl on codes) for 
27 sites regardless of where the command originates. As a user travels 
throughout the network coverage area, the command requirements change 
for the repeater input he/she is currently using. The user must 
constantly be aware of which site prefix number he/she is using.

Site prefixing / preaccess as implemented uses a standard command set 
across the network for ALL repeater inputs. No matter where you are 
within the network coverage range, you can enter the same exact command 
and get the same exact results from the local repeater (assuming the 
command is implemented locally - ie autopatch commands only work on 
sites with autopatches implemented). A user can enter ##12345 on any 
site and expect the same thing to occur. The only time a different 
command sequence is required is when a remote (non local / linked) site 
is commanded. This is where the site specific prefix is used (from the 
link and not the mobile input). All commands from the mobile input are 
prefixed with ## (##12345) and all commands from a distant linked site 
are prefixed with the site specific code *#373 (*#37312345) or whatever.

Your method would require two sets of macros - one with a ## prefix and 
another with *#373 or whatever. You would still need to map the prefixes 
to only one portion of the system (mobile input or links). Otherwise 
every time someone entered ##12345 it would be recognized and operated 
on by all linked sites.

Ed Yoho
WA6RQD

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: MOTOROLA Rib Error

[Jim Cicirello]

Hi Adam, Thanks for the Info. on the HP Handheld. I am going to Dayton and
may find one. Small and compact too.

 

Ron, N9EE, My Spectra does seem to be the most temperamental.  The Maxtrac
and even the Maratrac seem to load the 1st time. I have touched up all the
DB25 connections on the rib and I got my programming done. I will have to
wait until next time and see what happens.  Always an adventure.  

 

Thanks JIM  KA2AJH

 

 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Vazquez Kb2Jpd
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 11:00 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: MOTOROLA Rib Error

 

You should consider using one of the old HP handheld PCs. It uses the old
tech and it comes with a comport. Friends of mine have been using it with
the old RIB software and its work fine with it. FYI. http://www.google.

com/search?q=HP+LX+200&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official
&client=firefox-a

Adam Kb2jpd

On 5/15/07, Ron Wright, Skywarn Coodinator <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 net> wrote:

Jim,

Wonder if this is with one of your radios or is consistant with others.

One note is the speed of the computer. RS232 at a particlar baud rate 
is the same for all computers except for the data speed determind by 
the time between bytes. Some have commented newer high speed computers 
work too fast. The radio might not be able to respond quickly enough 
if the data is fed too fast. I use an old 486.

If your situation is intermitment it might be on the edge of where it 
will work and not work.

73, ron, n9ee/r

--- In Repeater-Builder@ 
yahoogroups.com, "Jim Cicirello" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Hi Guys,
> I am having an intermittent programming problem with my Motorola Rib
> Box. This is
> one of the after market rib boxes that works great 95% of the time and
> the other 5% I get an error message Serial BUS FAILURE POWER FAULT. My
> radio is powered up, my battery is good in the rib box and the box is
> on, I have used two different cables, and still the error.What would I
> look for? I have looked for solder joints on the db25's and all look
> good. I have pinned out the cables, all good. Any ideas would be
> greatly appreciated. Thank JIM
>

 

 

[Repeater-Builder] RLC-DSP404 Handout now available

[Allan Overcast]

Here is the link to the new Digital Controllers product brief.
   
  http://www.link-comm.com//ftp/rlc-dsp404/handouts/RLC-DSP404.pdf
   
  Allan Overcast KF7FW
  Link Communications, Inc.
  www.link-comm.com

   
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[Repeater-Builder] ****DAYTON SPECIALS****

[Ken Arck]

Thanks to Joe, Arcom Communications will have a presence at Dayton this year.

Be sure to visit Joe at spaces 944 and 943 in the Flea Market area. 
He'll have all sorts of great info about our line of products, 
including our new RC810!

But there's no need to rush into purchasing anything while at Dayton 
either as we'll be extending our Dayton Specials through May 31st. 
You can conveniently order (and of course get Dayton Special 
pricing!) at our website or if you prefer, just give us a call.

We hope everyone has a great time at Dayton 2007!

Ken, AH6LE
--
President and CTO - Arcom Communications
Makers of the world famous RC210 Repeater Controller and accessories.
http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/
Coming soon - the most advanced repeater controller EVER.
Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and
we offer complete repeater packages!
AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000
http://www.irlp.net

[Repeater-Builder] RC-810

[cruising7388]

 
In a message dated 5/15/2007 1:01:03 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

He'll  have all sorts of great info about our line of products, 
including our new  RC810!



I looked for details regarding the RC-810 on the website you provided but I  
can't find any
reference to to this controller there.



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[Repeater-Builder] ****DAYTON SPECIALS****

[Ken Arck]

It was pointed out to me that we neglected to ID Joe properly!. Sorry 
about that Joe!

Of course we're referring to a man who needs no introduction, the 
ever-popular Joe M, KR3P.

Ken
--
President and CTO - Arcom Communications
Makers of repeater controllers and accessories.
http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/
Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and
we offer complete repeater packages!
AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000
http://www.irlp.net
"We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!"

Re: [Repeater-Builder] RC-810

[Ken Arck]

At 01:53 PM 5/15/2007, you wrote:


I looked for details regarding the RC-810 on the website you 
provided but I can't find any

reference to to this controller there.


<---We're working like crazy to get the website updated with RC810 
info. In the meantime, there is an RC810 group on Yahoogroups and if 
you join it, you can go to the files section where we have 
specifications and photos of the 810 (although we made a last minute 
change to the rack back panel so ignore the photo of it and instead 
look in the Hardware Manual for an accurate depiction of the new back panel).


We currently have the RC810 Hardware Manual available at our FTP site:

http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ftp/pub/rc810/manuals/rc810hardware.pdf

The Operations & Programming Manual to follow shortly.

Ken
--
President and CTO - Arcom Communications
Makers of repeater controllers and accessories.
http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/
Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and
we offer complete repeater packages!
AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000
http://www.irlp.net
"We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!"

RE: [Repeater-Builder] RLC-DSP404 Handout now available

[Preston Moore]

The 404 appears to have just about everything one
could want in a controller and much more.  I noticed
it's running Linux.  Does this mean the source code
will be available?  


Preston Moore




>Here is the link to the new Digital Controllers
>product brief.
>   
> 
http://www.link-comm.com//ftp/rlc-dsp404/handouts/>RLC-DSP404.pdf
>   
>  Allan Overcast KF7FW
>  Link Communications, Inc.
>  www.link-comm.com


   
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