[Repeater-Builder] Using Alinco DR-605 Dual Band Mobiles for Repeater
I am wondering if anyone has experience with setting up two of these radios to work as a GMRS Repeater? We are experimenting with the idea of setting one up in our small town. Will I need a simple controller or interface of some type that may be readily available? Any help in the correct direction would be appreciated! Thanks! Brian/WB2JIX
[Repeater-Builder] FS: DB 4072 UHF Duplexer
Hi Folks, I have an Extra Decibel DB4072 UHF duplexer for sale All original cabling between cans, was previously tuned and used in the amateur 70cm band. $250.00 and it's yours, I'll cover the shipping. There is a spec/installation sheet on repeater-builder.com Regards, Mike - N3EAQ
[Repeater-Builder] RF Problem with new repeater
Hi group, I seem to be having an RF Problem with a new Icom FR4000 Repeater. The repeater is letting out a hissing noise when I listen to it on a HT or my mobile radio. The hissing noise sounds more like a squelch that is opened up. When I get about 300 feet from the repeater the noise is gone. It does not key the transmiter. This is why I am puzzled. The only way I have found to get arround it is turn my squelch way up on my HT to remove the noise. When I key up my HT the noise drops out while the repeater is transmitting. The repeater and repeater tower is at my home. If it was several miles out of town I would not be emailing you. I have mounted it in a metal case, grounded the repeater by the grounding screw, grounded the coax by twisting copper around the coax sheild, grounded the repeater cabinet. I first thought that the problem was from the duplexers. Not so, I took the duplexers out of line and still noise. The only way to remove the noise is to turn off the repeater. Something I don't won't to do. Any thoughts ???
[Repeater-Builder] RE: Sinclair Q202 duplexer harness info
-Original Message- From: Gregg W6IZT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 2:06 PM To: 'Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com' Subject: Sinclair Q202 duplexer harness info Our club has what we believe is a Sinclair Q202 duplexer. This variant has piston trimmers to adjust the notch frequency. The coax harness is beginning to fail (the braid is fraying at the crimp on a couple of the cables). I do not know what frequency this duplexer was originally tunes to. What I need is the proper length of the cables that make up the harness assembly for operation in the 2 meter band. If you know the physical dimensions please include the cable type and/or velocity factor Hopefully someone Thanks Gregg W6IZT
[Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater
I have a C73RXB3106BT it is a Micor compa Repeater. And I want to put it on 2 meters. Does anyone have or know where I can get a set of manuals for it?
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Using Alinco DR-605 Dual Band Mobiles for Repeater
The first problem you have is that you are using non type accepted equipment in GMRS. Come to a full stop and seek out some type accested equipment to construct your repeater with. Milt N3LTQ - Original Message - From: briguy1q2w [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 4:14 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Using Alinco DR-605 Dual Band Mobiles for Repeater I am wondering if anyone has experience with setting up two of these radios to work as a GMRS Repeater? We are experimenting with the idea of setting one up in our small town. Will I need a simple controller or interface of some type that may be readily available? Any help in the correct direction would be appreciated! Thanks! Brian/WB2JIX Yahoo! Groups Links
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Using Alinco DR-605 Dual Band Mobiles for Repeater
Front end is too broad and not legal for GMRS.. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 20:14:05 +Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Using Alinco DR-605 Dual Band Mobiles for Repeater I am wondering if anyone has experience with setting up two of theseradios to work as a GMRS Repeater? We are experimenting with the ideaof setting one up in our small town.Will I need a simple controller or interface of some type that may bereadily available?Any help in the correct direction would be appreciated!Thanks!Brian/WB2JIX _ Watch “Cause Effect,” a show about real people making a real difference. Learn more. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/MTV/?source=text_watchcause
[Repeater-Builder] Re: RF Problem with new repeater
Sounds like it may be the internal switching power supply malfunctioning and emitting much noise. Try running it on DC and see if the noise goes away.dan n2aym --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, ki4ggh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi group, I seem to be having an RF Problem with a new Icom FR4000 Repeater. The repeater is letting out a hissing noise when I listen to it on a HT or my mobile radio. The hissing noise sounds more like a squelch that is opened up. When I get about 300 feet from the repeater the noise is gone. It does not key the transmiter. This is why I am puzzled. The only way I have found to get arround it is turn my squelch way up on my HT to remove the noise. When I key up my HT the noise drops out while the repeater is transmitting. The repeater and repeater tower is at my home. If it was several miles out of town I would not be emailing you. I have mounted it in a metal case, grounded the repeater by the grounding screw, grounded the coax by twisting copper around the coax sheild, grounded the repeater cabinet. I first thought that the problem was from the duplexers. Not so, I took the duplexers out of line and still noise. The only way to remove the noise is to turn off the repeater. Something I don't won't to do. Any thoughts ???
[Repeater-Builder] Re: RF Problem with new repeater
Not sure about the FR4000, but I know that the Kenwood TKR-x50 series can be programmed to have a different standby transmit frequency. What you are hearing is the transmit oscillator running, with no power being applied to it by the internal power amplifier. This is a problem in synthesized tranmitters where the oscillator stays on at all times. You will hear its signal for a few hundred feet. Check in the programming if you can set a different standby oscillator frequency, and then set it to something closeby, but something that will not cause you any interference. I have a few Harris Alpha 2000 full duplex radios that exhibit this behaviour. A TKR-750 I recently wirked on also had this, but I managed to get rid of it by using the standby feature. Dave Cameron VE7LTD --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, ki4ggh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi group, I seem to be having an RF Problem with a new Icom FR4000 Repeater. The repeater is letting out a hissing noise when I listen to it on a HT or my mobile radio. The hissing noise sounds more like a squelch that is opened up. When I get about 300 feet from the repeater the noise is gone. It does not key the transmiter. This is why I am puzzled. The only way I have found to get arround it is turn my squelch way up on my HT to remove the noise. When I key up my HT the noise drops out while the repeater is transmitting. The repeater and repeater tower is at my home. If it was several miles out of town I would not be emailing you. I have mounted it in a metal case, grounded the repeater by the grounding screw, grounded the coax by twisting copper around the coax sheild, grounded the repeater cabinet. I first thought that the problem was from the duplexers. Not so, I took the duplexers out of line and still noise. The only way to remove the noise is to turn off the repeater. Something I don't won't to do. Any thoughts ???
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater
Ray (I think, hi) On e-bay one often sees these manuals. There are 2 manuals...one for the chassis that has the card info/schematics and the radio or RF part. The last has the service info for the radio including tuning. Not sure what segment of the band your repeater is made for. Most were 150-174. In these the transmitter tunes well, but often the receiver front end helicals have problems moving down to 2 meters. Mot just made too good of a radio. One solution is to remove the 5 tuning slugs from the helicals and insert screws with pan-head screws inside (head of screw inside). They are 10-32 screw. This increases the cap and makes lower freq LC. You have to remove the helical from the PC board for this. Not sure what the bandpass looks like, but still is pretty good. The Micor makes an excellent repeater. Good luck with your project. 73, ron, n9ee/r From: raysagar27 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/03/23 Sun PM 12:18:57 CDT To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater I have a C73RXB3106BT it is a Micor compa Repeater. And I want to put it on 2 meters. Does anyone have or know where I can get a set of manuals for it? Ron Wright, N9EE 727-376-6575 MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL No tone, all are welcome.
RE: [Repeater-Builder] RF Problem with new repeater
On my Motorola repeater it is the tx oscilator, to get rid of the problem I turned on PL on the TX and my HT, when it isn't repeating it doesn't generate PL so it is muted. Thats the only fix I know of - Rob From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ki4ggh Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 1:16 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] RF Problem with new repeater Hi group, I seem to be having an RF Problem with a new Icom FR4000 Repeater. The repeater is letting out a hissing noise when I listen to it on a HT or my mobile radio. The hissing noise sounds more like a squelch that is opened up. When I get about 300 feet from the repeater the noise is gone. It does not key the transmiter. This is why I am puzzled. The only way I have found to get arround it is turn my squelch way up on my HT to remove the noise. When I key up my HT the noise drops out while the repeater is transmitting. The repeater and repeater tower is at my home. If it was several miles out of town I would not be emailing you. I have mounted it in a metal case, grounded the repeater by the grounding screw, grounded the coax by twisting copper around the coax sheild, grounded the repeater cabinet. I first thought that the problem was from the duplexers. Not so, I took the duplexers out of line and still noise. The only way to remove the noise is to turn off the repeater. Something I don't won't to do. Any thoughts ??? Since 1974, the award-winning Alpert JFCS has helped families of all faiths throughout most of Palm Beach County, FL, via counseling, seniors services, residences for the disabled, mentoring children, support groups and a lot more. SOLUTIONS FOR LIVING www.JFCSonline.com Please take note of our new website and E-Mail Addresses. Please update your contacts ASAP. NOTICE: This e-mail message and all attachments transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the addressee and may contain legally privileged and confidential information. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying, or other use of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this message and please delete it from your computer.
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Using Alinco DR-605 Dual Band Mobiles for Repeater
Why, there are some standard RP-70 U Uhf repeaters already on GMRS on Ebay for around $75, just need crystals or maybe you can find on on a freq that you can get licensed in your area. They are only 10 watts but with the right site or an amp they would work fine. I used one for years with no problems - Rob - KS4EC From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of briguy1q2w Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 4:14 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Using Alinco DR-605 Dual Band Mobiles for Repeater I am wondering if anyone has experience with setting up two of these radios to work as a GMRS Repeater? We are experimenting with the idea of setting one up in our small town. Will I need a simple controller or interface of some type that may be readily available? Any help in the correct direction would be appreciated! Thanks! Brian/WB2JIX Since 1974, the award-winning Alpert JFCS has helped families of all faiths throughout most of Palm Beach County, FL, via counseling, seniors services, residences for the disabled, mentoring children, support groups and a lot more. SOLUTIONS FOR LIVING www.JFCSonline.com Please take note of our new website and E-Mail Addresses. Please update your contacts ASAP. NOTICE: This e-mail message and all attachments transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the addressee and may contain legally privileged and confidential information. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying, or other use of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this message and please delete it from your computer.
[Repeater-Builder] DTMF Decoder
Any one know if there is a good hardware DTMF decoder out there or plans for one that will work with Echolink? There are several of us who had working Echolink internal DTMF that no longer can get them to tune up right. We are tired of messing with it so we want to go external. All I have found on the internet are full echolink controllers with DTMF built in. I want just the DTMF decoder part. Thanks, Vern KI4ONW
Re: [Repeater-Builder] DTMF Decoder
At 11:55 AM 3/24/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any one know if there is a good hardware DTMF decoder out there or plans for one that will work with Echolink? There are several of us who had working Echolink internal DTMF that no longer can get them to tune up right. We are tired of messing with it so we want to go external. All I have found on the internet are full echolink controllers with DTMF built in. I want just the DTMF decoder part. http://products.zarlink.com/product_profiles/MT8870D.htm Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!
Re: [Repeater-Builder] RF Problem with new repeater
At 10:15 PM 03/23/08, you wrote: Hi group, I seem to be having an RF Problem with a new Icom FR4000 Repeater. The repeater is letting out a hissing noise when I listen to it on a HT or my mobile radio. The hissing noise sounds more like a squelch that is opened up. When I get about 300 feet from the repeater the noise is gone. It does not key the transmiter. This is why I am puzzled. The only way I have found to get arround it is turn my squelch way up on my HT to remove the noise. When I key up my HT the noise drops out while the repeater is transmitting. The repeater and repeater tower is at my home. If it was several miles out of town I would not be emailing you. I have mounted it in a metal case, grounded the repeater by the grounding screw, grounded the coax by twisting copper around the coax sheild, grounded the repeater cabinet. I first thought that the problem was from the duplexers. Not so, I took the duplexers out of line and still noise. The only way to remove the noise is to turn off the repeater. Something I don't won't to do. Any thoughts ??? You are hearing leakage from the transmitter exciter oscillator. In that radio the transmitter oscillator runs full time (for stability) and the following stages are keyed. This is why the problem goes away when you are 300 feet from the cabinet. In most situations the repeater is at a site fat from the users and it's not a problem. I have no experience with late model Icom repeaters so I have no answer for you. Is it a synthesized repeater? Do you have the programming software? If so, the trick that is used on the Motorola MTR2000 may help. See http://www.repeater-builder.com/motorola/mtr2k/mtr-2000-idle-freq.html This trick depends on Icom having engineering staff that are aware of this problem and added that feature to the repeater and the software. The similar repeaters made by Kenwood have this feature. They call it the standby frequency. Mike WA6IOLQ
[Repeater-Builder] 24 vdc to 12vdc
I hope some one on the group can help me out here I want to put a radio in a jeep the problem is the jeep runs 24 v and as you know radios run 12v Is there a device that will drop 24v down to 12 vdv ? I know I could use a droping resistor but I can see it making a lot of heat if I remember right the jeep uses 2 12 v batts can I just tape off one set for the radio ? I know this is not about repeaters , but just thought some one might have an idea .. Thanks Rick Of all the intelligent animals, Human is the species that is least likely to learn from its experience. That explains why so manny of us have more then one Border Collie ! == www.karolinabc.ca == Rick,Charlote Kids Our Border Collies Miss Daisy Duke Sir Red-A-Lot Miss Elly May Mr Boots Mr. Balue Our Border Collie Message Group [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Repeater-Builder] DTMF Decoder
You would need a full echolink board as you need the micro to translate the DTMF decoder's data into a serial.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 24 vdc to 12vdc
Yes, there are devices to drop the voltage. Astron makes some. There are also ones that will give you positive 13V from a negative 13V system. (old Mack trucks, for example) Joe M. Rick Charlotte wrote: I hope some one on the group can help me out here I want to put a radio in a jeep the problem is the jeep runs 24 v and as you know radios run 12v Is there a device that will drop 24v down to 12 vdv ? I know I could use a droping resistor but I can see it making a lot of heat if I remember right the jeep uses 2 12 v batts can I just tape off one set for the radio ? I know this is not about repeaters , but just thought some one might have an idea .. Thanks Rick Of all the intelligent animals, Human is the species that is least likely to learn from its experience. That explains why so manny of us have more then one Border Collie ! == www.karolinabc.ca == Rick,Charlote Kids Our Border Collies Miss Daisy Duke Sir Red-A-Lot Miss Elly May Mr Boots Mr. Balue Our Border Collie Message Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 24 vdc to 12vdc
You can cheat and run off one of the 12 v batteries. But the better way is to use something like the Astron 2412 DC to DC converters. I used several of them in the past running 12 v radios in 24 v helicopters. Like a lot of Astron stuff, they worked very well. I think the 9 amp version starts arround 60 bucks.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 24 vdc to 12vdc
This is a very common issue in aircraft. The most obvious question is does your jeep use 2 each 12 volt batteries? If so, simply connect your radio across one of 'em. If this can't be done for one reason or another, something along this line is another solution: http://www.powerstream.com/dc1.htm Ken At 12:21 PM 3/24/2008, Rick Charlotte wrote: I hope some one on the group can help me out here I want to put a radio in a jeep the problem is the jeep runs 24 v and as you know radios run 12v Is there a device that will drop 24v down to 12 vdv ? I know I could use a droping resistor but I can see it making a lot of heat if I remember right the jeep uses 2 12 v batts can I just tape off one set for the radio ? I know this is not about repeaters , but just thought some one might have an idea .. Thanks Rick Of all the intelligent animals, Human is the species that is least likely to learn from its experience. That explains why so manny of us have more then one Border Collie ! == www.karolinabc.ca == Rick,Charlote Kids Our Border Collies Miss Daisy Duke Sir Red-A-Lot Miss Elly May Mr Boots Mr. Balue Our Border Collie Message Group mailto:karolinabc%40yahoogroups.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Using Alinco DR-605 Dual Band Mobiles for Repeater
Rob, The Alinco equipment is NOT FCC type accepted for commercial service of any kind. Matter of fact it is very illegal to have them on those frequencies. Check out the Type Acceptance number on the radios and look it up in the FCC files, it will tell you what you can do with it, the DR-605 is a Ham radio only, I know I have one. The Standard RP-70 is probably Type Accepted by the FCC for commercial use but may or may not do the bandwidth required for GMRS which I think is 12.5 KHz, I may be wrong on that bandwidth though. Whatever, it is not legal to have Amateur equipment on GMRS, FRS or any other commercial frequencies. Paul _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Pease Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 12:38 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Using Alinco DR-605 Dual Band Mobiles for Repeater Why, there are some standard RP-70 U Uhf repeaters already on GMRS on Ebay for around $75, just need crystals or maybe you can find on on a freq that you can get licensed in your area. They are only 10 watts but with the right site or an amp they would work fine. I used one for years with no problems - Rob - KS4EC _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of briguy1q2w Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 4:14 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Using Alinco DR-605 Dual Band Mobiles for Repeater I am wondering if anyone has experience with setting up two of these radios to work as a GMRS Repeater? We are experimenting with the idea of setting one up in our small town. Will I need a simple controller or interface of some type that may be readily available? Any help in the correct direction would be appreciated! Thanks! Brian/WB2JIX HYPERLINK http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-1751-2978-238/1?aid=10356774pid=2316294; REMEMBER - You can find it on ebaY Since 1974, the award-winning Alpert JFCS has helped families of all faiths throughout most of Palm Beach County, FL, via counseling, seniors services, residences for the disabled, mentoring children, support groups and a lot more. SOLUTIONS FOR LIVING (R) HYPERLINK http://www.JFCSonline.comwww.JFCSonline.com Please take note of our new website and E-Mail Addresses. Please update your contacts ASAP. NOTICE: This e-mail message and all attachments transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the addressee and may contain legally privileged and confidential information. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying, or other use of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this message and please delete it from your computer. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.8/1340 - Release Date: 3/23/2008 6:50 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.8/1340 - Release Date: 3/23/2008 6:50 PM
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Using Alinco DR-605 Dual Band Mobiles for Repeater
I was sugesting the RP70U as a cheap, and legal replacement for the alinco's. I am with you on not using the Alinco's. My point is that there where cheaper, legal ways to do what he wants to do. Rob From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Finch Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 4:43 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Using Alinco DR-605 Dual Band Mobiles for Repeater Rob, The Alinco equipment is NOT FCC type accepted for commercial service of any kind. Matter of fact it is very illegal to have them on those frequencies. Check out the Type Acceptance number on the radios and look it up in the FCC files, it will tell you what you can do with it, the DR-605 is a Ham radio only, I know I have one. The Standard RP-70 is probably Type Accepted by the FCC for commercial use but may or may not do the bandwidth required for GMRS which I think is 12.5 KHz, I may be wrong on that bandwidth though. Whatever, it is not legal to have Amateur equipment on GMRS, FRS or any other commercial frequencies. Paul From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Pease Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 12:38 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Using Alinco DR-605 Dual Band Mobiles for Repeater Why, there are some standard RP-70 U Uhf repeaters already on GMRS on Ebay for around $75, just need crystals or maybe you can find on on a freq that you can get licensed in your area. They are only 10 watts but with the right site or an amp they would work fine. I used one for years with no problems - Rob - KS4EC From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of briguy1q2w Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 4:14 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Using Alinco DR-605 Dual Band Mobiles for Repeater I am wondering if anyone has experience with setting up two of these radios to work as a GMRS Repeater? We are experimenting with the idea of setting one up in our small town. Will I need a simple controller or interface of some type that may be readily available? Any help in the correct direction would be appreciated! Thanks! Brian/WB2JIX REMEMBER - You can find it on ebaY http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-1751-2978-238/1?aid=10356774pid=2316 294 Since 1974, the award-winning Alpert JFCS has helped families of all faiths throughout most of Palm Beach County, FL, via counseling, seniors services, residences for the disabled, mentoring children, support groups and a lot more. SOLUTIONS FOR LIVING (R) www.JFCSonline.com http://www.JFCSonline.com Please take note of our new website and E-Mail Addresses. Please update your contacts ASAP. NOTICE: This e-mail message and all attachments transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the addressee and may contain legally privileged and confidential information. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying, or other use of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this message and please delete it from your computer. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.8/1340 - Release Date: 3/23/2008 6:50 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.8/1340 - Release Date: 3/23/2008 6:50 PM REMEMBER - You can find it on ebaY http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-1751-2978-238/1?aid=10356774pid=2316 294
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need help identifying VHF antenna
No idea on specs or model #? Thanks! N5NPO - Original Message - From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun Mar 23 19:34:33 2008 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need help identifying VHF antenna It was made by Signals/Cushcraft. Don't know much more. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: NORM KNAPP [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:nknapp%40twowayradio.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 7:48 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Need help identifying VHF antenna Hi Guys, I got this VHF antenna. Looks kinda like a VHF DB-404. Has 4 loops on the mast height of a DB-222. If you know what it is and what the specs are, please let me know. I want to use it as a repeater antenna on 146.805/146.205. The SWR on 146.805 is 1.5:1. Thanks for any help. 73 de N5NPO Norman Knapp Yahoo! Groups Links
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Using Alinco DR-605 Dual Band Mobiles for Repeater
Rob, OK, I understand. There was an email missing somewhere or I never got the part from him I guess. I had a Standard repeater, never tried to get it on the air, have too good a luck with my junque (aka high class junk) repeaters I build from Mobiles but only for Ham service. I am a Icom dealer and use pretty much their FR series for most of the commercial stuff. Thanks, Paul _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Pease Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 3:54 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Using Alinco DR-605 Dual Band Mobiles for Repeater I was sugesting the RP70U as a cheap, and legal replacement for the alinco's. I am with you on not using the Alinco's. My point is that there where cheaper, legal ways to do what he wants to do. Rob _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Finch Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 4:43 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Using Alinco DR-605 Dual Band Mobiles for Repeater Rob, The Alinco equipment is NOT FCC type accepted for commercial service of any kind. Matter of fact it is very illegal to have them on those frequencies. Check out the Type Acceptance number on the radios and look it up in the FCC files, it will tell you what you can do with it, the DR-605 is a Ham radio only, I know I have one. The Standard RP-70 is probably Type Accepted by the FCC for commercial use but may or may not do the bandwidth required for GMRS which I think is 12.5 KHz, I may be wrong on that bandwidth though. Whatever, it is not legal to have Amateur equipment on GMRS, FRS or any other commercial frequencies. Paul _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Pease Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 12:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Using Alinco DR-605 Dual Band Mobiles for Repeater Why, there are some standard RP-70 U Uhf repeaters already on GMRS on Ebay for around $75, just need crystals or maybe you can find on on a freq that you can get licensed in your area. They are only 10 watts but with the right site or an amp they would work fine. I used one for years with no problems - Rob - KS4EC _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of briguy1q2w Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 4:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Using Alinco DR-605 Dual Band Mobiles for Repeater I am wondering if anyone has experience with setting up two of these radios to work as a GMRS Repeater? We are experimenting with the idea of setting one up in our small town. Will I need a simple controller or interface of some type that may be readily available? Any help in the correct direction would be appreciated! Thanks! Brian/WB2JIX HYPERLINK http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-1751-2978-238/1?aid=10356774pid=2316294; REMEMBER - You can find it on ebaY Since 1974, the award-winning Alpert JFCS has helped families of all faiths throughout most of Palm Beach County, FL, via counseling, seniors services, residences for the disabled, mentoring children, support groups and a lot more. SOLUTIONS FOR LIVING (R) HYPERLINK http://www.JFCSonline.comwww.JFCSonline.-com Please take note of our new website and E-Mail Addresses. Please update your contacts ASAP. NOTICE: This e-mail message and all attachments transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the addressee and may contain legally privileged and confidential information. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying, or other use of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this message and please delete it from your computer. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.8/1340 - Release Date: 3/23/2008 6:50 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.8/1340 - Release Date: 3/23/2008 6:50 PM HYPERLINK http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-1751-2978-238/1?aid=10356774pid=2316294; REMEMBER - You can find it on ebaY HYPERLINK http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-1751-2978-238/1?aid=10356774pid=2316294; REMEMBER - You can find it on ebaY No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.8/1340 - Release Date: 3/23/2008 6:50 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.8/1340 - Release Date: 3/23/2008 6:50 PM
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Using Alinco DR-605 Dual Band Mobiles for Repeater
Rob, OK, I understand. There was an email missing somewhere or I never got the part from him I guess. I had a Standard repeater, never tried to get it on the air, have too good a luck with my junque (aka high class junk) repeaters I build from Mobiles but only for Ham service. I am a Icom dealer and use pretty much their FR series for most of the commercial stuff. Thanks, Paul _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Pease Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 3:54 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Using Alinco DR-605 Dual Band Mobiles for Repeater I was sugesting the RP70U as a cheap, and legal replacement for the alinco's. I am with you on not using the Alinco's. My point is that there where cheaper, legal ways to do what he wants to do. Rob _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Finch Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 4:43 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Using Alinco DR-605 Dual Band Mobiles for Repeater Rob, The Alinco equipment is NOT FCC type accepted for commercial service of any kind. Matter of fact it is very illegal to have them on those frequencies. Check out the Type Acceptance number on the radios and look it up in the FCC files, it will tell you what you can do with it, the DR-605 is a Ham radio only, I know I have one. The Standard RP-70 is probably Type Accepted by the FCC for commercial use but may or may not do the bandwidth required for GMRS which I think is 12.5 KHz, I may be wrong on that bandwidth though. Whatever, it is not legal to have Amateur equipment on GMRS, FRS or any other commercial frequencies. Paul _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Pease Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 12:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Using Alinco DR-605 Dual Band Mobiles for Repeater Why, there are some standard RP-70 U Uhf repeaters already on GMRS on Ebay for around $75, just need crystals or maybe you can find on on a freq that you can get licensed in your area. They are only 10 watts but with the right site or an amp they would work fine. I used one for years with no problems - Rob - KS4EC _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of briguy1q2w Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 4:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Using Alinco DR-605 Dual Band Mobiles for Repeater I am wondering if anyone has experience with setting up two of these radios to work as a GMRS Repeater? We are experimenting with the idea of setting one up in our small town. Will I need a simple controller or interface of some type that may be readily available? Any help in the correct direction would be appreciated! Thanks! Brian/WB2JIX HYPERLINK http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-1751-2978-238/1?aid=10356774pid=2316294; REMEMBER - You can find it on ebaY Since 1974, the award-winning Alpert JFCS has helped families of all faiths throughout most of Palm Beach County, FL, via counseling, seniors services, residences for the disabled, mentoring children, support groups and a lot more. SOLUTIONS FOR LIVING (R) HYPERLINK http://www.JFCSonline.comwww.JFCSonline.-com Please take note of our new website and E-Mail Addresses. Please update your contacts ASAP. NOTICE: This e-mail message and all attachments transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the addressee and may contain legally privileged and confidential information. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying, or other use of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this message and please delete it from your computer. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.8/1340 - Release Date: 3/23/2008 6:50 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.8/1340 - Release Date: 3/23/2008 6:50 PM HYPERLINK http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-1751-2978-238/1?aid=10356774pid=2316294; REMEMBER - You can find it on ebaY HYPERLINK http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-1751-2978-238/1?aid=10356774pid=2316294; REMEMBER - You can find it on ebaY No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.8/1340 - Release Date: 3/23/2008 6:50 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.8/1340 - Release Date: 3/23/2008 6:50 PM
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Using Alinco DR-605 Dual Band Mobiles for Repeater
Actually, it is perfectly legal to have them there. The part that is illegal is *transmitting* there. Many units have RX coverage on those frequencies from the factory. Joe M. Paul Finch wrote: Rob, The Alinco equipment is NOT FCC type accepted for commercial service of any kind. Matter of fact it is very illegal to have them on those frequencies. Check out the Type Acceptance number on the radios and look it up in the FCC files, it will tell you what you can do with it, the DR-605 is a Ham radio only, I know I have one. The Standard RP-70 is probably Type Accepted by the FCC for commercial use but may or may not do the bandwidth required for GMRS which I think is 12.5 KHz, I may be wrong on that bandwidth though. Whatever, it is not legal to have Amateur equipment on GMRS, FRS or any other commercial frequencies. Paul *From:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Robert Pease *Sent:* Monday, March 24, 2008 12:38 PM *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* RE: [Repeater-Builder] Using Alinco DR-605 Dual Band Mobiles for Repeater Why, there are some standard RP-70 U Uhf repeaters already on GMRS on Ebay for around $75, just need crystals or maybe you can find on on a freq that you can get licensed in your area. They are only 10 watts but with the right site or an amp they would work fine. I used one for years with no problems - Rob - KS4EC *From:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *briguy1q2w *Sent:* Sunday, March 23, 2008 4:14 PM *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* [Repeater-Builder] Using Alinco DR-605 Dual Band Mobiles for Repeater I am wondering if anyone has experience with setting up two of these radios to work as a GMRS Repeater? We are experimenting with the idea of setting one up in our small town. Will I need a simple controller or interface of some type that may be readily available? Any help in the correct direction would be appreciated! Thanks! Brian/WB2JIX REMEMBER - You can find it on ebaY http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-1751-2978-238/1?aid=10356774pid=2316294 Since 1974, the award-winning Alpert JFCS has helped families of all faiths throughout most of Palm Beach County, FL, via counseling, seniors services, residences for the disabled, mentoring children, support groups and a lot more. *SOLUTIONS FOR LIVING (R)* *www.JFCSonline.com* http://www.JFCSonline.com _Please take note of our new website and E-Mail Addresses._ _Please update your contacts ASAP._ NOTICE: This e-mail message and all attachments transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the addressee and may contain legally privileged and confidential information. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying, or other use of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this message and please delete it from your computer. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.8/1340 - Release Date: 3/23/2008 6:50 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.8/1340 - Release Date: 3/23/2008 6:50 PM REMEMBER - You can find it on ebaY http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-1751-2978-238/1?aid=10356774pid=2316294 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.8/1339 - Release Date: 3/22/2008 4:43 PM Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Using Alinco DR-605 Dual Band Mobiles for Repeater
At 02:09 PM 3/24/2008, MCH wrote: Actually, it is perfectly legal to have them there. The part that is illegal is *transmitting* there. Many units have RX coverage on those frequencies from the factory. ---I agree with you but haven't there been fines issued before simply because modified radios were in possession? I kinda remember some ruling that possession of a modified non type accepted radio capable of transmission on the freqs in question was ipso facto proof of intent and therefore guilt? Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!
Re: [Repeater-Builder] DTMF Decoder
Wouldn't I need some software to interface this with Echolink? Getting the data from the 4 lines to serial or parallel shouldn't be a big deal but reading it from the port and translating that to Echolink might be. What about being able to pick the DTMF up off of my RC1000 and getting that data into the PC is that possible? Vern On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 12:10:44 -0700 Ken Arck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 11:55 AM 3/24/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any one know if there is a good hardware DTMF decoder out there or plans for one that will work with Echolink? There are several of us who had working Echolink internal DTMF that no longer can get them to tune up right. We are tired of messing with it so we want to go external. All I have found on the internet are full echolink controllers with DTMF built in. I want just the DTMF decoder part. http://products.zarlink.com/product_profiles/MT8870D.htm Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Using Alinco DR-605 Dual Band Mobiles for Repeater
The transmitting part is a given, very illegal to transmit but OK to receive but he wanted to transmit with one. You can receive anything anywhere except cellular. Paul -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MCH Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 4:10 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Using Alinco DR-605 Dual Band Mobiles for Repeater Actually, it is perfectly legal to have them there. The part that is illegal is *transmitting* there. Many units have RX coverage on those frequencies from the factory. Joe M. Paul Finch wrote: Rob, The Alinco equipment is NOT FCC type accepted for commercial service of any kind. Matter of fact it is very illegal to have them on those frequencies. Check out the Type Acceptance number on the radios and look it up in the FCC files, it will tell you what you can do with it, the DR-605 is a Ham radio only, I know I have one. The Standard RP-70 is probably Type Accepted by the FCC for commercial use but may or may not do the bandwidth required for GMRS which I think is 12.5 KHz, I may be wrong on that bandwidth though. Whatever, it is not legal to have Amateur equipment on GMRS, FRS or any other commercial frequencies. Paul *From:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Robert Pease *Sent:* Monday, March 24, 2008 12:38 PM *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* RE: [Repeater-Builder] Using Alinco DR-605 Dual Band Mobiles for Repeater Why, there are some standard RP-70 U Uhf repeaters already on GMRS on Ebay for around $75, just need crystals or maybe you can find on on a freq that you can get licensed in your area. They are only 10 watts but with the right site or an amp they would work fine. I used one for years with no problems - Rob - KS4EC *From:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *briguy1q2w *Sent:* Sunday, March 23, 2008 4:14 PM *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* [Repeater-Builder] Using Alinco DR-605 Dual Band Mobiles for Repeater I am wondering if anyone has experience with setting up two of these radios to work as a GMRS Repeater? We are experimenting with the idea of setting one up in our small town. Will I need a simple controller or interface of some type that may be readily available? Any help in the correct direction would be appreciated! Thanks! Brian/WB2JIX REMEMBER - You can find it on ebaY http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-1751-2978-238/1?aid=10356774pid=2316294 Since 1974, the award-winning Alpert JFCS has helped families of all faiths throughout most of Palm Beach County, FL, via counseling, seniors services, residences for the disabled, mentoring children, support groups and a lot more. *SOLUTIONS FOR LIVING (R)* *www.JFCSonline.com* http://www.JFCSonline.com _Please take note of our new website and E-Mail Addresses._ _Please update your contacts ASAP._ NOTICE: This e-mail message and all attachments transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the addressee and may contain legally privileged and confidential information. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying, or other use of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this message and please delete it from your computer. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.8/1340 - Release Date: 3/23/2008 6:50 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.8/1340 - Release Date: 3/23/2008 6:50 PM REMEMBER - You can find it on ebaY http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-1751-2978-238/1?aid=10356774pid=2316294 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.8/1339 - Release Date: 3/22/2008 4:43 PM Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.8/1340 - Release Date: 3/23/2008 6:50 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.8/1340 - Release Date: 3/23/2008 6:50 PM
RE: [Repeater-Builder] 24 vdc to 12vdc
Or look at Xantrex solar charge controllers.. they will take anything up to around 80v in and give you 12,24, or 48 out.. your choice.. stick a small 12v gel cell on the output, or some filter caps, and get up to 40 amps for a little over $100, though I have found they have clean enough output without anything extra for most situations _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Kometz Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 1:44 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 24 vdc to 12vdc You can cheat and run off one of the 12 v batteries. But the better way is to use something like the Astron 2412 DC to DC converters. I used several of them in the past running 12 v radios in 24 v helicopters. Like a lot of Astron stuff, they worked very well. I think the 9 amp version starts arround 60 bucks.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need help identifying VHF antenna
No, they quit making them several years ago. I don't have an old catalog and I don't think there is anything on the web. I'd expect 3-4 dB gain. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: NORM KNAPP [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 5:08 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need help identifying VHF antenna No idea on specs or model #? Thanks! N5NPO - Original Message - From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun Mar 23 19:34:33 2008 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need help identifying VHF antenna It was made by Signals/Cushcraft. Don't know much more. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: NORM KNAPP [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:nknapp%40twowayradio.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 7:48 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Need help identifying VHF antenna Hi Guys, I got this VHF antenna. Looks kinda like a VHF DB-404. Has 4 loops on the mast height of a DB-222. If you know what it is and what the specs are, please let me know. I want to use it as a repeater antenna on 146.805/146.205. The SWR on 146.805 is 1.5:1. Thanks for any help. 73 de N5NPO Norman Knapp Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] DTMF Decoder
For $ 53.00 why don't you just buy a complete controller kit with all the hard stuff done for you? I have used one of these for years and it works great. http://www.ilinkca.com/ Randy WB0VHB Wouldn't I need some software to interface this with Echolink? Getting the data from the 4 lines to serial or parallel shouldn't be a big deal but reading it from the port and translating that to Echolink might be. What about being able to pick the DTMF up off of my RC1000 and getting that data into the PC is that possible? Vern On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 12:10:44 -0700 Ken Arck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 11:55 AM 3/24/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any one know if there is a good hardware DTMF decoder out there or plans for one that will work with Echolink? There are several of us who had working Echolink internal DTMF that no longer can get them to tune up right. We are tired of messing with it so we want to go external. All I have found on the internet are full echolink controllers with DTMF built in. I want just the DTMF decoder part. http://products.zarlink.com/product_profiles/MT8870D.htm Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!
[Repeater-Builder] Re: 24 vdc to 12 vdc
This is a very common issue in aircraft. The most obvious question is does your jeep use 2 each 12 volt batteries? If so, simply connect your radio across one of 'em. This is done all the time but is a very, very bad idea. Ever hear of Kirchhoff's law? Check it out. It's a very quick way to ruin two batteries. Get a real converter. The switching kind are much more efficient than the linear voltage dropping kind. Al, K9SI
[Repeater-Builder] Antenna question
I have what may see to be a dumb question ... I have in my possession what I am told is a Sinclair 224 VHF four-bay folded dipole. My MFJ 259 says the antenna is resonant at 147.1 - which is close enough for the frequency where I want to use it: 145.150. This is an older antenna - and I am wondering - if I determine that the harness is faulty - is there a way to make up a harness to run external to the mast like a DB 224 does? Larry N5WLW
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna question
You may have something else. The SRL-224 has an external harness. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Larry Wagoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 6:09 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna question I have what may see to be a dumb question ... I have in my possession what I am told is a Sinclair 224 VHF four-bay folded dipole. My MFJ 259 says the antenna is resonant at 147.1 - which is close enough for the frequency where I want to use it: 145.150. This is an older antenna - and I am wondering - if I determine that the harness is faulty - is there a way to make up a harness to run external to the mast like a DB 224 does? Larry N5WLW Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need help identifying VHF antenna
I need to specify model and make for an application I am sending in to a tower company asking permission to install it on their tower. Thanks. - Original Message - From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon Mar 24 17:03:41 2008 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need help identifying VHF antenna No, they quit making them several years ago. I don't have an old catalog and I don't think there is anything on the web. I'd expect 3-4 dB gain. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: NORM KNAPP [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:nknapp%40twowayradio.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 5:08 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need help identifying VHF antenna No idea on specs or model #? Thanks! N5NPO - Original Message - From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun Mar 23 19:34:33 2008 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need help identifying VHF antenna It was made by Signals/Cushcraft. Don't know much more. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: NORM KNAPP [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:nknapp%40twowayradio.net mailto:nknapp%40twowayradio.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 7:48 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Need help identifying VHF antenna Hi Guys, I got this VHF antenna. Looks kinda like a VHF DB-404. Has 4 loops on the mast height of a DB-222. If you know what it is and what the specs are, please let me know. I want to use it as a repeater antenna on 146.805/146.205. The SWR on 146.805 is 1.5:1. Thanks for any help. 73 de N5NPO Norman Knapp Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna question
At 05:37 PM 3/24/2008, you wrote: You may have something else. The SRL-224 has an external harness. Hmmm - this thing has a harness interior to the mast and which runs through the center of the arms which hold the bays. Ideas? Larry N5WLW
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need help identifying VHF antenna
You may have gotten lucky. http://www.cushcraft.com/comm/support/pdf/VHFBBARRAYS.PDF Looks like they still list them. Your model doesn't show, but would have been the 1502P. The picture on the web site is pretty crappy, but that's the antenna. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: NORM KNAPP [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 6:46 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need help identifying VHF antenna I need to specify model and make for an application I am sending in to a tower company asking permission to install it on their tower. Thanks.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna question
Is there a blob of heat-shrink tubing at the middle of the element - furthest away from the mast? If so, that sounds like their SRL-210C-4. Go look on the Sinclair web site. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Larry Wagoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 6:41 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna question At 05:37 PM 3/24/2008, you wrote: You may have something else. The SRL-224 has an external harness. Hmmm - this thing has a harness interior to the mast and which runs through the center of the arms which hold the bays. Ideas? Larry N5WLW Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] DTMF Decoder
Vern, it sounds like you may have some other problems that might cause a hardware DTMF decoder to work no better than the one in the sound card. It has been my experience that the internal sound card decoder works better than the external variety because of the various tweaks you can use on the internal decoder. Look for excessive distortion in your audio signal, or improperly deemphasized audio for your problem. Perhaps you have some problem with your sound card, but that is not too likely. I did have a brand new Dell computer with the sound card so out of calibration that the tones in the bubble up of a repeater sounded distinctly lower in pitch when passed through to EchoLink. When we went to an external SignalLink USB sound card the problem went away. You can tweak the sound card decoder by changing the 'twist' or unbalance in level between the high tones and the low tones in a DTMF digit. One clue to this twist problem is that some TT digits will decode and some will not. Almost always this type problem can be compensated for by changing the twist settings in the sound card decoder. Look in the Sysop setup/DTMF/Advanced menu and try adjusting the twist up and down a few dB at a time. Does your EchoLink audio sound high pitched or 'tinney'? If so, you may be taking audio from a receiver that has not had the deemphasis compensation applied. Be sure to correct any audio issues before trying to get the internal DTMF decoder to work. Audio may be deemphasized by passing it through a series 15K resistor and placing a .22 cap across the output side of the resistor to ground. This audio may then be applied to the Mic input of the sound card. 73 - Jim W5ZIT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any one know if there is a good hardware DTMF decoder out there or plans for one that will work with Echolink? There are several of us who had working Echolink internal DTMF that no longer can get them to tune up right. We are tired of messing with it so we want to go external. All I have found on the internet are full echolink controllers with DTMF built in. I want just the DTMF decoder part. Thanks, Vern KI4ONW __ - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
[Repeater-Builder] F.S. Motorola MICOR VHF 500w XMTR/PA/PS/Internal wiring with Meter Assembly
I have for sale (2) each Motorola MICOR Repeater (RT) Stations (less RX decks). The complete exciter/PA(TLD5321B) with 500w Power Amplifier (TLD5082A) running pair of 4cx250B finals, with both low (TPN1132A) and high voltage (TPN 1131A) power supplies, including meter assembly internal wiring harness and meter switching panel assemblies. All one needs is a RX and your plug and play adding a controller! All equipment is rack mountable. No upright cabinets are for sale! Very heavy, so I perfer local pick-up in West Central Florida Tampabay area. Asking: $150.00 each. Dennis - W4DG (727)863-0102 - after 11AM.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna question
At 05:48 PM 3/24/2008, you wrote: Is there a blob of heat-shrink tubing at the middle of the element - furthest away from the mast? Nope - just aluminum rod Larry N5WLW
[Repeater-Builder] Wanted to buy - MICOR TPN1110B
Wanted to buy - MICOR TPN1110B 12v/25A rack mount PS. Please reply off list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 73 Dennis - W4DG
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna question
At 05:48 PM 3/24/2008, you wrote: Is there a blob of heat-shrink tubing at the middle of the element - furthest away from the mast? One other thing ... the arms holding the dipole away from the mast is only about 8 inches long - and extends to both the inside and outside of the dipole. Not sure how to describe this ... Larry N5WLW
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna question
Could you find it on the Sinclair web site? How about a picture of one of the elements? You can email one to me. Chuck wb2edv at roadrunner dot com - Original Message - From: Larry Wagoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 7:28 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna question At 05:48 PM 3/24/2008, you wrote: Is there a blob of heat-shrink tubing at the middle of the element - furthest away from the mast? Nope - just aluminum rod Larry N5WLW
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna question
Than it's not a SRL-224. On those, the element attaches directly to the mast (and the harness is external). Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Larry Wagoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 7:36 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna question At 05:48 PM 3/24/2008, you wrote: Is there a blob of heat-shrink tubing at the middle of the element - furthest away from the mast? One other thing ... the arms holding the dipole away from the mast is only about 8 inches long - and extends to both the inside and outside of the dipole. Not sure how to describe this ... Larry N5WLW Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] DTMF Decoder
I have messed around with the settings in Echolink a good bit. The thing that is interesting is that 2 other repeaters that were working fine stopped working within the past few weeks. We believe it might have been some kind of windows update or something. Mine used to work OK but has not for some time. All of them will decode some tones. I had thought about going to an external sound card but thought that a decoder would be better. I just don't want to take the chance of getting another sound card and having it not work. Vern On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:10:54 -0700 (PDT) Jim Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vern, it sounds like you may have some other problems that might cause a hardware DTMF decoder to work no better than the one in the sound card. It has been my experience that the internal sound card decoder works better than the external variety because of the various tweaks you can use on the internal decoder. Look for excessive distortion in your audio signal, or improperly deemphasized audio for your problem. Perhaps you have some problem with your sound card, but that is not too likely. I did have a brand new Dell computer with the sound card so out of calibration that the tones in the bubble up of a repeater sounded distinctly lower in pitch when passed through to EchoLink. When we went to an external SignalLink USB sound card the problem went away. You can tweak the sound card decoder by changing the 'twist' or unbalance in level between the high tones and the low tones in a DTMF digit. One clue to this twist problem is that some TT digits will decode and some will not. Almost always this type problem can be compensated for by changing the twist settings in the sound card decoder. Look in the Sysop setup/DTMF/Advanced menu and try adjusting the twist up and down a few dB at a time. Does your EchoLink audio sound high pitched or 'tinney'? If so, you may be taking audio from a receiver that has not had the deemphasis compensation applied. Be sure to correct any audio issues before trying to get the internal DTMF decoder to work. Audio may be deemphasized by passing it through a series 15K resistor and placing a .22 cap across the output side of the resistor to ground. This audio may then be applied to the Mic input of the sound card. 73 - Jim W5ZIT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any one know if there is a good hardware DTMF decoder out there or plans for one that will work with Echolink? There are several of us who had working Echolink internal DTMF that no longer can get them to tune up right. We are tired of messing with it so we want to go external. All I have found on the internet are full echolink controllers with DTMF built in. I want just the DTMF decoder part. Thanks, Vern KI4ONW __ - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Using Alinco DR-605 Dual Band Mobiles for Repeater
Can a Receiver be not Type Accepted for GMRS? LW --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Ron _ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Front end is too broad and not legal for GMRS.. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 20:14:05 +Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Using Alinco DR-605 Dual Band Mobiles for Repeater I am wondering if anyone has experience with setting up two of theseradios to work as a GMRS Repeater? We are experimenting with the ideaof setting one up in our small town.Will I need a simple controller or interface of some type that may bereadily available?Any help in the correct direction would be appreciated!Thanks!Brian/WB2JIX _ Watch Cause Effect, a show about real people making a real difference. Learn more. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/MTV/?source=text_watchcause
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Using Alinco DR-605 Dual Band Mobiles for Repeater
At 3/24/2008 06:57, you wrote: Front end is too broad Actually, the front-end of the DR-605 is one of the narrowest of the current-production radios (I know, the 605 is no longer current production but it's only been a couple of years). and not legal for GMRS.. Quite true, which makes the above a moot point w.r.t. repeater operation. I just wanted to set the record straight on the RF performance of that model. It's the only radio that could survive our local IMD alley without falling apart. Bob NO6B
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 24 vdc to 12vdc
A word of caution about cheating... You want your installation idiot proof and therefore use the 24-12 inverter from Astron and save yourself some grief down the road. I've seen many a blown reverse protection diode from just the same installation. You can't go wrong with the inverter. Also, the added load on the single 12 volt battery of a 2-12 volt series can cause enough imbalance to cause charger problems and battery boiling of one of the batteries. my 2 1/2 cents thp Steve Kometz wrote: You can cheat and run off one of the 12 v batteries. But the better way is to use something like the Astron 2412 DC to DC converters. I used several of them in the past running 12 v radios in 24 v helicopters. Like a lot of Astron stuff, they worked very well. I think the 9 amp version starts arround 60 bucks. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.8/1340 - Release Date: 3/23/2008 6:50 PM
RE: [Repeater-Builder] RE: Sinclair Q202 duplexer harness info
Gregg, The Sinclair cable harness for the low-split Q202G duplexer should look like this: -[]-[]-[]-[]-[]- TX1 2 ANT 3 4 RX The [] symbol is a tee connector. The distance between 1 and 2, 2 and ANT, ANT and 3, and 3 and 4 should be about 14 inches measured from the center of the back of each tee. The distance between TX and 1, and between 4 and RX, can be whatever length it takes to fit without any excess or splices. The 14 inch dimension is based upon using RG-214/U double-shielded coax. I got these dimensions by measuring a brand-new harness that a local club purchased from Sinclair. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gregg W6IZT Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 11:15 AM To: 'Gregg W6IZT'; Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] RE: Sinclair Q202 duplexer harness info -Original Message- From: Gregg W6IZT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:w6izt%40bellsouth.net ] Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 2:06 PM To: 'Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:%27Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com ' Subject: Sinclair Q202 duplexer harness info Our club has what we believe is a Sinclair Q202 duplexer. This variant has piston trimmers to adjust the notch frequency. The coax harness is beginning to fail (the braid is fraying at the crimp on a couple of the cables). I do not know what frequency this duplexer was originally tunes to. What I need is the proper length of the cables that make up the harness assembly for operation in the 2 meter band. If you know the physical dimensions please include the cable type and/or velocity factor Hopefully someone Thanks Gregg W6IZT
[Repeater-Builder] Re: 24 vdc to 12vdc
There should be no problem using one of the batteries, but you *must* put the radio across the one that has it's negative terminal grounded to vehicle chassis, or you'll be making a lot of smoke and fire. Laryn K8TVZ
[Repeater-Builder] Re: 24 vdc to 12vdc
Someone else mentioned the Astron converter. You can also buy inverters (usually online) designed for 24V input, and use that to run a small gel cell charger, with an appropriately sized gel cell. Neither the charger or the battery need to be big, unless you need to transmit a lot. The charge refills the battery when you're listening, or when the radio is off. Resistors are a bad idea, and tapping power from one battery is another bad idea, not just because of the damage to the high side battery, but the transients in a 24V system are double that in a 12V system, and your 12V radio has likely not been designed to live in that environment.
