Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Using Alinco DR-605 Dual Band Mobiles for Repeater

[Ron Wright]

Brian,

Most for of the repeaters on e-bay are GE, Mot or some other commercial 
manufacture and their equipment is type accepted.  The Ham stuff is where some 
might get into trouble.

73, ron, n9ee/r



>From: briguy1q2w <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: 2008/03/25 Tue PM 07:21:30 CDT
>To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Using Alinco DR-605 Dual Band Mobiles for 
>Repeater

>
>In this case, I would guess that most ALL of the "repeaters" being
>sold on eBay are not legal for GMRS. How do most people get one on the
>air for a reasonable expense without paying a grand or more?
>
>Thank You!
>
>Brian/WB2JIX
>
>--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Finch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>>
>> Ron,
>> 
>> Yes, he is wanting this as a GMRS repeater which I would think is very
>> illegal.  On the other hand, anything is legal in an emergency.
>> 
>> Paul
>>  
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Wright
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 7:26 AM
>> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: Re: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Using Alinco DR-605 Dual Band
>Mobiles
>> for Repeater
>> 
>> Paul & Rob,
>> 
>> The issue with having the rig capable of transmitting on GMRS can be a
>> problem.
>> 
>> Many Ham rigs can be legally opened for MARS, etc use and this will
>often
>> open for many other frequencies.
>> 
>> I would say if the rig were in a repeater then a problem.  I would think
>> just having the rig would not be an issue, but having it installed,
>but not
>> used and especially wired would be a problem.
>> 
>> 73, ron, n9ee/r
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> >From: Paul Finch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >Date: 2008/03/24 Mon PM 03:43:19 CDT
>> >To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>> >Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Using Alinco DR-605 Dual Band
>Mobiles for
>> Repeater
>> 
>> >
>> >Rob, The Alinco equipment is NOT FCC type accepted for commercial
>service
>> of any kind.  Matter of fact it is very illegal to have them on those
>> frequencies.  Check out the Type Acceptance number on the radios and
>look it
>> up in the FCC files, it will tell you what you can do with it, the
>DR-605 is
>> a Ham radio only, I know I have one. The Standard RP-70 is probably Type
>> Accepted by the FCC for commercial use but may or may not do the
>bandwidth
>> required for GMRS which I think is 12.5 KHz, I may be wrong on that
>> bandwidth though. Whatever, it is not legal to have Amateur equipment on
>> GMRS, FRS or any other commercial frequencies.   Paul 
>> >From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Pease
>> >Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 12:38 PM
>> >To:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>> >Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Using Alinco DR-605 Dual Band
>Mobiles for
>> Repeater
>> >
>> >Why, there are some standard RP-70 U Uhf repeaters already on GMRS
>on Ebay
>> for around $75, just need crystals or maybe you can find on on a
>freq that
>> you can get licensed in your area. They are only 10 watts but with
>the right
>> site or an amp they would work fine. I used one for years with no
>problems -
>> Rob - KS4EC
>> >From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of briguy1q2w
>> >Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 4:14 PM
>> >To:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>> >Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Using Alinco DR-605 Dual Band Mobiles for
>> Repeater
>> >
>> >
>> >I am wondering if anyone has experience with setting up two of these
>> >radios to work as a GMRS Repeater? We are experimenting with the idea
>> >of setting one up in our small town.
>> >Will I need a simple controller or interface of some type that may be
>> >readily available?
>> >
>> >Any help in the correct direction would be appreciated!
>> >
>> >Thanks!
>> >
>> >Brian/WB2JIX
>> >
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] MASTR-II ID

[Ron Wright]

Paul,

Some where on the radio should be a combination number.  This tells all.  Tells 
what band, power and some other issues.

73, ron, n9ee/r



>From: "Paul E. Robichaux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: 2008/03/25 Tue PM 05:20:12 CDT
>To: "Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com" 
>Subject: [Repeater-Builder] MASTR-II ID

>
>My dad, K5EYP, bought a MASTR-II of some kind. He was running it as our local 
>ARES repeater at 145.150, driven by (I think) a CAT-1000. I’m trying to figure 
>out what specific components & vintage this particular MASTR-II is, what it’s 
>worth, and the best way to sell it. Any suggestions would be most welcome.
>
>73 de KG4RWS   
>


Ron Wright, N9EE
727-376-6575
MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS
Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL
No tone, all are welcome.

[Repeater-Builder] Re: DTMF Decoder

[Jeff Kincaid]

I have a couple of them that I addad the 4th column to.  One of them
cooked in a rack full of tubes on Contractor Point for years.  I
wouldn't part with mine.  :)

Jeff W6JK

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, tony dinkel
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> I am trying to figure out whether I should throw away my old WE 247B
KTU touch tone decoder.  Anybody want it?
> Museum maybe?  Put some pull ups on it and it should not be too hard
to do a 12 line to hex converter, 
> in software.  You can't beat the old pot cores and precision caps
for acquisition time, it ain't exactly false proof.  
> When I was working late at night, alone up on Santiago I had a habit
of turning down the HT-220 
> because it was barfing intermod continuously.  So the guys would do
cat call whistles into the rptr
> to get my attention with the chattering relays.  Please, this thing
has 20 years of service and sacred rodent 
> excrement included.  I can't just throw it away?
> 
> td
> wb6mie
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 2a. Re: DTMF Decoder
> Posted by: "Ron Wright" [EMAIL PROTECTED] n9eerptr
> Date: Wed Mar 26, 2008 4:19 am ((PDT))
>  
> I have never played with a computer sound card other than the
typical plug it in and let the various program drivers interface to it.
>  
> I bet the sound card is a simple ADC and software looks at the wave
form using a look up table that compares what is received and reacts.
>  
> DTMF is much more complex, simple in theory, but can be complex. 
With varying tone levels, distortion, harmonics, etc the wave form
changes drastically.  Dedicated circuits and ICs do a much better job.
>  
> 73, ron, n9ee/r
>

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Dual-Band Repeater Antenna

[Kris Kirby]

On Thu, 13 Mar 2008, Ken Arck wrote:
> <--I ran a Diamond X300 on top of Mt Haleakala on Maui at 10,000' for 
> years. It survived many wind and ice storms just fine

Ice? In Hawaii? Do tell

--
Kris Kirby, KE4AHR  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
But remember, with no superpowers comes no responsibility. 
--rly

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Dual-Band Repeater Antenna

[Ken Arck]

At 11:34 AM 3/27/2008, Kris Kirby wrote:

>On Thu, 13 Mar 2008, Ken Arck wrote:
> > <--I ran a Diamond X300 on top of Mt Haleakala on Maui at 10,000' for
> > years. It survived many wind and ice storms just fine
>
>Ice? In Hawaii? Do tell


 80 MPH 
if not more.

Remember Jimmy Buffet's immortal words - Changes in latitude, changes 
in altitude, nothing remains quite the same!

(ok, so I took poetic license)

Ken
--
President and CTO - Arcom Communications
Makers of repeater controllers and accessories.
http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/
Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and
we offer complete repeater packages!
AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000
http://www.irlp.net
"We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!"

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Dual-Band Repeater Antenna

[Scott Zimmerman]

>
> (ok, so I took poetic license)
THAT license should be REVOKED!!! HIHI

Scott

Scott Zimmerman
Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
474 Barnett Rd
Boswell, PA 15531

- Original Message - 
From: "Ken Arck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 2:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Dual-Band Repeater Antenna


> At 11:34 AM 3/27/2008, Kris Kirby wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 13 Mar 2008, Ken Arck wrote:
>> > <--I ran a Diamond X300 on top of Mt Haleakala on Maui at 10,000' for
>> > years. It survived many wind and ice storms just fine
>>
>>Ice? In Hawaii? Do tell
>
>
>  during the winter are regularly below freezing and the winds > 80 MPH
> if not more.
>
> Remember Jimmy Buffet's immortal words - Changes in latitude, changes
> in altitude, nothing remains quite the same!
>
> (ok, so I took poetic license)
>
> Ken
> --
> President and CTO - Arcom Communications
> Makers of repeater controllers and accessories.
> http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/
> Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and
> we offer complete repeater packages!
> AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000
> http://www.irlp.net
> "We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!"
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
> -- 
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> 

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Off Topic, trying not to re-invent the wheel...

[Nate Duehr]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> OK, that will work.  Then again, many amateur transceivers have a 
> "simpleton mode" that only allows volume, squelch & memory channel 
> adjustment.  Might be a cheaper & more flexible solution since the radio 
> can still be easily reprogrammed by anyone who does know the radio.
> 
> Bob NO6B

I hear there's a channelized service with 40 channels AM (and SSB too) 
down around the 11 meter portion of the spectrum.  Perhaps hams that 
can't figure out a VFO and a couple of menu options might like one of 
those rigs in the emergency comm station because they're "so easy to 
operate".

(Sorry... had to poke fun at this silliness.)

Here's the reality of it... for emergency comms, just handle it like 
anything else.

If you're not "checked out" on the gear, you don't operate it.  Just 
like anyone else with lives on the line... pilots, commercial drivers, 
etc.

If you were "checked out" and you blow something up, both you AND the 
guy that signed you off are responsible until the cause of the accident 
is determined.

Sounds a lot like aviation, doesn't it?  Guess what... it works.

With a radio it takes 5 minutes... someone stands there and says, "Tune 
to X, standard repeater offset, and set a X Hz CTCSS tone."... and waits 
to see if the person can do it.  Do a few more.

If they can't operate the rig, it'll be obvious.  And if they're not 
signed off, they're not authorized to use the community gear, because 
they'll blow it up.

If the emergency station is configured with other tools, like a PC and 
sound-card HF software or similar, those would have separate "check-rides".

Nate WY0X

[Repeater-Builder] [OT] Motorola insider letter

[Nate Duehr]

Interesting article for most of us here:

http://mobile.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/03/26/2051259

Apologies if too far off-topic.  Click on the "insider e-mail" link to 
read the letter.

Normally I would have just sent the article link, since the S/N ratio at 
Slashdot sucks these days... but there's a couple of other links in the 
article that folks might be interested in.

Helps explain the move to buy Yaesu...

I was especially shocked reading that their CEO won't even use a 
computer, and has all e-mails printed out on paper by an assistant.

Wow.  What a "high-tech" mogul and inspiration for us all.

Steve Jobs and Bill Gates each their own special kinds of wacky and/or 
crazy, but at least they "eat their own dog food" and use their own tech.

Nate WY0X

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Off Topic, trying not to re-invent the wheel...

[Paul Plack]

Nate, hear hear. In fact, I'd take it a step further. We only stay "checked
out" on a piece of equipment if we use it regularly. For that matter,
equipment which sits and gathers dust for years doesn't stay reliable. Is
buying radios for permanent installation at an EOC really smart?
 
Back in the 1980s, after the Teton Dam Disaster in Idaho, there was
awareness within the LDS church that its facilities should be
"ham-friendly," because that had turned out to be the only reliable form of
communications in the aftermath of the event.
 
For a while, it was possible to get church funding for ham stations,
especially where relief supplies were stored. Not any more.
 
I'm told the reason is that hams would show up to operate church-owned
equipment and be too unfamiliar with it to be useful. When hams had to bring
their own gear, they were much more likely to arrive knowing how to use it
immediately.
 
I wonder if the best solution for EOCs would not be to provide 12V power,
antennas, adapters for SO-238 and BNC chained down so they couldn't walk
away, and require the hams to show up with their own radios as part of their
"go-kits."
 
It's a blast to have a grant application approved, but getting institutional
radios has a down-side.
 
Retired commercial radios could be a good choice, and easy for county
governments to come by, but make sure some of the channels on that "cheat
sheet" are simplex, and you train to operate a net that way. Storms and
floods often leave many repeaters operational, but I'm not sure an
earthquake or volcanic event would be so considerate.
 
I've also heard repeaters jammed by miscreants when they're needed most.
Sad, but it happens.
 
73,
Paul, AE4KR

  _  

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nate Duehr
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 1:18 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Off Topic, trying not to re-invent the
wheel...



[EMAIL PROTECTED]   wrote:
> OK, that will work. Then again, many amateur transceivers have a 
> "simpleton mode" that only allows volume, squelch & memory channel 
> adjustment. Might be a cheaper & more flexible solution since the radio 
> can still be easily reprogrammed by anyone who does know the radio.
> 
> Bob NO6B

I hear there's a channelized service with 40 channels AM (and SSB too) 
down around the 11 meter portion of the spectrum. Perhaps hams that 
can't figure out a VFO and a couple of menu options might like one of 
those rigs in the emergency comm station because they're "so easy to 
operate".

(Sorry... had to poke fun at this silliness.)

Here's the reality of it... for emergency comms, just handle it like 
anything else.

If you're not "checked out" on the gear, you don't operate it. Just 
like anyone else with lives on the line... pilots, commercial drivers, 
etc.

If you were "checked out" and you blow something up, both you AND the 
guy that signed you off are responsible until the cause of the accident 
is determined.

Sounds a lot like aviation, doesn't it? Guess what... it works.

With a radio it takes 5 minutes... someone stands there and says, "Tune 
to X, standard repeater offset, and set a X Hz CTCSS tone."... and waits 
to see if the person can do it. Do a few more.

If they can't operate the rig, it'll be obvious. And if they're not 
signed off, they're not authorized to use the community gear, because 
they'll blow it up.

If the emergency station is configured with other tools, like a PC and 
sound-card HF software or similar, those would have separate "check-rides".

Nate WY0X


 

Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Off Topic, trying not to re-invent the wheel...

[Ron Wright]

Nate,

Wish it were that easy.  In about all my rigs to set the freq is easy, turn the 
tuning knob.  Most have standard offset and hope the repeater you are going to 
does also.  As for CTCSS most all my rigs require multiple setting and menus.  
One to set the freq, one to set rx or tx, etc.

Then comes the 2 years later when it must be done again.  I don't care if it is 
3 months later many will not be able to set some of the items in a rig they 
have been trained on.

Pre-program what you need then if there are 5 freq/tone/offsets in a system 
just quickly turn the knob.

If the approach of no training then no operation then lots of people will be 
left without EmComm and this is not an option. 

Really sounds as if so many are planning a weekend bike run and not the real 
thing.  I saw the need for someone not trained to do a commo job immediately in 
the military and the "no training no do" was not an option.

I do encourage all to train as much as they can.  It is valuable, but often 
helps less then some think.

73, ron, n9ee/r




>With a radio it takes 5 minutes... someone stands there and says, "Tune 
>to X, standard repeater offset, and set a X Hz CTCSS tone."... and waits 
>to see if the person can do it.  Do a few more.
>


Ron Wright, N9EE
727-376-6575
MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS
Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL
No tone, all are welcome.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Off Topic, trying not to re-invent the wheel...

[Nate Duehr]

Ron Wright wrote:
> Nate,
> 
> Wish it were that easy.  In about all my rigs to set the freq is easy, turn 
> the tuning knob.  Most have standard offset and hope the repeater you are 
> going to does also.  As for CTCSS most all my rigs require multiple setting 
> and menus.  One to set the freq, one to set rx or tx, etc.

The point is that you just demonstrated that you know some things there 
that a LOT of volunteer hams don't!  You know about rigs with and 
without standard offsets.  You know why there's that "RPT" button on 
rigs.  You know you need a CTCSS tone, and what it does.

You learned that somewhere.  Someone had to TRAIN you, or you had to 
TRAIN yourself.  For those volunteer who REFUSE to self-train, they must 
be SHOWN and TESTED.

How many hams even know that some modern rigs (finally) HAVE different 
CTCSS tones for TX/RX?  (Which is actually fairly rare in Amateur rigs, 
but common in all commercial rigs for over a decade now.)  You do.

But for you to run around programming their radios for them, is 
ultimately a "job that never ends" -- you need to TRAIN them about what 
you know about HOW the rigs work, not how to spin the pre-programmed 
dial some "radio guru" set up for them.

In the end, they're USELESS operators if you do that work and effort for 
them.

> Then comes the 2 years later when it must be done again.  I don't care if it 
> is 3 months later many will not be able to set some of the items in a rig 
> they have been trained on.

Well, if you go back to my Aviation analogy, there are recurrency 
requirements in Aviation also for that reason.

*REAL* Emergency communications and Aviation share a common theme... 
lives are on the line.  Aviation's had 100 years to come up with the 
bare minimum rules/regulations to keep people from dying as much as 
reasonably possible.  It's not a bad model to emulate.

Written test.  Practical test.  Logs that show you're current and safe 
before you can carry passengers.  Specific time and safety-related 
reviews with an instructor required every so often.

Of course, I'll certainly point out that hams RARELY are doing real 
*Emergency* communications.

In all but the utterly devastating largest scale events, we're passing 
traffic about how many donuts are left at the shelter.

Nothing life-threatening, and most of the traffic won't be delayed too 
badly by poor radio discipline, not knowing how to run the radio, etc.

(In other words, we're the communications "dumping ground" for crap the 
real emergency responders don't want to do.  And we get all excited and 
think we're adding great value when we do it, so ... that's fine... but 
it's why I don't bother to volunteer.  I figure my skillset will be more 
badly needed to drive my dumb butt up to a site and get repeaters back 
on the air... or deploy portables for others to use... so I limit my 
EmComm activity to that.)

> Pre-program what you need then if there are 5 freq/tone/offsets in a system 
> just quickly turn the knob.

Yes, but ham rigs have memories.  Use them, but also leave the VFO knob 
available.

Don't switch to radios that have no flexibility, or you take away things 
a GOOD operator can use.

> If the approach of no training then no operation then lots of people will be 
> left without EmComm and this is not an option. 

Lots of people will be left without *BAD* EmComm, which isn't a loss for 
them OR outsider's view of the hobby.

> Really sounds as if so many are planning a weekend bike run and not the real 
> thing.  I saw the need for someone not trained to do a commo job immediately 
> in the military and the "no training no do" was not an option.

Thus why military systems are set up to be operated by any monkey.

That's not the focus of Amateur Radio -- we're a pool of TRAINED 
operators, according to Part 97.  Not PTT-monkeys.

Trained operators can fill both the important roles of flexible, 
knowledgeable, radio operator and also the PTT-monkey shoes, as required.

Untrained operators, can't.

> I do encourage all to train as much as they can.  It is valuable, but often 
> helps less then some think.

Where it helps is in getting people FAMILIAR with the different rig 
configurations and possibilities.

Teach 'em to use your memory channels, sure... but also teach 'em how to 
THINK and how the rigs WORK and they'll be more effective in a very 
short period of time.

If we give up and don't train/teach/mentor/Elmer people -- and just 
accept all volunteers with no requirement to learn -- we get what we 
deserve in this hobby today.

Nate WY0X

[Repeater-Builder] VXR-7000 Troubles

[KFD29]

Having some issues w/ a VXR-7000, email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])  if you are familiar w/ this model  and would be 
willing to help!



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RE: [Repeater-Builder] VXR-7000 Troubles

[Charles Mumphrey Kc5ozh]

 Hello All and KFD29  IMHO, if you pose your questions to "the
Group"you may find a "quicker" and more knowledgeable response to
your problems with the VXR-7000; rather than having "individuals" email
you and ask you what is wrong! That is one of the reasons we share in a
"Group". You may even want to include your name if nothing else..
Happy Repeating!
Charlie

"It is not the class of license the Amateur holds, but the class of the
Amateur that holds the license."

Charles Mumphrey
Amateur Radio Station Kc5ozh
Repeater System:
Rowlett Main: 441.325 MHz + 162.2
Dallas: 441.950 MHz + 162.2
Rowlett II: 441.950 MHz + 110.9
Rowlett R.A.C.E.S. Unit 823
http://www.CharliesElectronics.com



>  Original Message 
> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] VXR-7000 Troubles
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Thu, March 27, 2008 7:44 pm
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>
> Having some issues w/ a VXR-7000, email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])  if you are familiar w/ this model  and would be 
> willing to help!
>

RE: [Repeater-Builder] MASTR-II ID

[Eric Lemmon]

Paul,

Because Hams just love to swap boards and modules between radios, the
Combination Number on the data plate is no absolute proof of what is inside
the radio- but it is a start.  The next time you have the Mastr II radio
open, take some time to record the module numbers stamped in black ink along
the edges of most circuit boards.  Such numbers will usually begin with 19A,
19B, 19C, or 19D, and may have a "PL" prefix.  The numbers might look
something like this: 19C320265G3 REV A.

You must determine which modules are in your radio before you can put
together a manual.  A "manual" for a GE Mastr II radio is actually a
collection of as many as a dozen individual manuals, known as LBIs.  There
is one LBI for the receiver front end, another LBI for the
oscillator-multiplier, another LBI for the exciter, another LBI for the
power amplifier, and so on.  Most of the Mastr II LBIs are already available
for download from the Repeater-Builder site.

As to the vintage of your radio and its value, again you must make an
inventory of its modules.  You may find that your radio is a run-of-the-mill
model, which has relatively little value on the Ham market.  However, you
may have a unique and/or rare model that some Hams would give their eyeteeth
for.  We shall see...

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
 

>From: "Paul E. Robichaux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>
>Date: 2008/03/25 Tue PM 05:20:12 CDT
>To: "Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 "
mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> >
>Subject: [Repeater-Builder] MASTR-II ID

> 
>My dad, K5EYP, bought a MASTR-II of some kind. He was running it as our
local ARES repeater at 145.150, driven by (I think) a CAT-1000. I'm trying
to figure out what specific components & vintage this particular MASTR-II
is, what it's worth, and the best way to sell it. Any suggestions would be
most welcome.
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>73 de KG4RWS

[Repeater-Builder] False DTMF Muting On CAT-1000 Controller

[Tony L.]

The DTMF muting feature on one of our CAT-1000 controllers occasionally 
falses and sends cover tone over a user's voice.  This happens to one 
user more so than anyone else.

Is there an adjustment?  Why does this happen on only one of 3 idential 
controllers?

Thanks.

RE: [Repeater-Builder] False DTMF Muting On CAT-1000 Controller

[Eric Lemmon]

Tony,

Yes, but it requires throat surgery.  Seriously, though, one repeater user
in my area has a tendency to make a high-pitched "eee" sound when others
might say "um", and this will sometimes cause the controller to mute his
voice just as it would a DTMF tone.  Slightly reducing the DTMF decoder
input gain seemed to eliminate the problem.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
 

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Subject: [Repeater-Builder] False DTMF Muting On CAT-1000 Controller

The DTMF muting feature on one of our CAT-1000 controllers occasionally 
falses and sends cover tone over a user's voice. This happens to one 
user more so than anyone else.

Is there an adjustment? Why does this happen on only one of 3 idential 
controllers?

Thanks.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] False DTMF Muting On CAT-1000 Controller

[Jim Brown]

My experience is with the CAT-300 controllers, but I have found that if the 
level to the DTMF decoder is set too high, it is a lot more prone to falsing 
and covering a transmission with the cover tone.  I have found that female 
voices gave the most problem.  Reducing the level to the DTMF decoder in the 
controller cleared this up for me.

73 - Jim  W5ZIT

"Tony L." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The DTMF 
muting feature on one of our CAT-1000 controllers occasionally 
 falses and sends cover tone over a user's voice.  This happens to one 
 user more so than anyone else.
 
 Is there an adjustment?  Why does this happen on only one of 3 idential 
 controllers?
 
 Thanks.
 
 
 
   

   
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