Re: [Repeater-Builder] FW: Dayton and Parts you might need....
Larry- You have just given some of the best advice I have heard here in a long time! -- Original Message -- Received: Sun, 04 May 2008 07:58:34 PM PDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] FW: Dayton and Parts you might need Or you could have better fun at Dayton than running around DF'ing clowns wanting an audience - take advantage of all of the hospitality hotel suites downtown that are put on by the various Contest clubs, DX Associations, etc. - they run most of all night long. Some offer some very good prizes, too. Life's too short for high blood pressure! -Original Message- From: Derek J. Lassen Sent: May 4, 2008 7:42 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] FW: Dayton and Parts you might need BTW, You can but these antennas from Randy at Kilo Romeo Six Delta Romeo At arrl.net abt. $30 last I heard. 73 de KN6TD (s) Derek At 11:07 PM 5/2/2008 -0700, you wrote: Cut four or five element Yagis or quagies for the third and fifth harmonics of the frequency in question. They will be quite small, and as the signal will be many dB down from the main carrier, you can t-hunt them with an HT or scanner with no special shielding requirements. And you won't need an attenuator. And the beamwidth will be quite tight - to the room from the street. 73 de KN6TD At 09:35 PM 5/2/2008 -0400, you wrote: That was a problem in the mid-80s on 147.135 out there. Anytime you get a huge audience like that, and get a group of people who may have had a few too many, you can expect problems. Or, maybe it's someone who doesn't like the Hamvention. Part of the problem too is say you track it down to a certain hotel. You still have possibly hundreds of hams it could be. Joe M. R. K. Brumback wrote: For at least the last two or three years I have been to Dayton Fest, there has been someone using a recording with what could be called colorful metaphors. It has been on the talk-in channel which I usually need to use. I have had to turn the radio off because of this language and having my family in the vehicle. I would like to think someone is working on this. Has the person responsible been caught? Does this happen only during the Fest? Is there anyway a fellow ham can help catch this person? I will be glad to supply a new rope and go in search of an appropriate tree!! Randy B. -Original Message- *From:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Ron Wright *Sent:* Monday, April 21, 2008 9:14 AM *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: RE: [Repeater-Builder] FW: Dayton and Parts you might need One of the largest repeater systems in the US is just down the road on 145.190. However, will be more than busy during Dayton. Last I heard 145.19 had over 32 rcv sites and 7 distant city repeaters linked in. 73, ron, n9ee/r From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:no6b%40no6b.com Date: 2008/04/20 Sun PM 11:29:43 CDT To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] FW: Dayton and Parts you might need At 4/20/2008 07:12, you wrote: For others reading this list/thread, I am putting together an Excel spreadsheet of freqs that wil most likely be used at Dayton, so I can program them into my radios. Feel free to send along any freqs you will be using so I can add them in! Thanks, Mark N9WYS One of the most popular local systems is WF8M 443.775 (+) PL-131.8 Has IRLP (node 4267), which makes it rather busy all hamvention weekend. The system I'll be linking my portable repeater to in Miamisburg (WB8VSU 442.300 (+) PL-123.0) also has IRLP (node 4235) but doesn't cover Hara as well so hasn't been very busy. Bob NO6B Ron Wright, N9EE 727-376-6575 MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL No tone, all are welcome. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.8/1412 - Release Date: 5/2/2008 4:34 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.8/1412 - Release Date: 5/2/2008 4:34 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.8/1412 - Release Date: 5/2/2008 4:34 PM Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] antenna question - Dip It and Scotch Kote and Krylon
For what it's worth, I'll add my two cents: After assembling and tuning a 2 meter Ringo antenna, I wiped it down with rubbing alcohol and then sprayed it with urethane spar (marine) varnish, which I bought at K-mart. I used an entire can (12 ounces maybe). The antenna performed well through twenty years of northeastern Ohio weather. That's when we moved and I had to take it down. Although there were a few places where the coating was wearing thin, most of it was still intact. I ended up throwing out the antenna because I couldn't get the darn PL-259 off. Between the tape and varnish, that bugger was set for life. I've also used this method on other antennas with excellent results; however the Ringo was up much longer than any of the others. If any of you want to try this, I offer two suggestions. First. and this is important, make sure the antenna is oil and grease free by wiping it down thoroughly with alcohol before applying the spar varnish. Afterwards, wear gloves or use a rag to handle it. Second, you might want to consider applying two coats of varnish, leaving sufficient time between coats for the antenna and feed-point connections to dry. 73 and aloha, Eric KH6CQ --- On Mon, 5/5/08, Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: antenna question - Dip It and Scotch Kote and Krylon To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, May 5, 2008, 2:56 AM This topic reminds me, a friend said he painted his copper J Pole, and it never worked after that. The type of paint, and other factors determine what is and what is not safe to use on an antenna. The only thing I have done is used a tad of NoAlox in joints on antennas. Years ago, I did cover the base of the connector on a Ringo antenna with some Silicone sealer. I don't know if it was from that or something else, but when I moved the antenna later, I was never able to get it to work right again. Now I am leery about using items on antennas that were not made for such types of items. I do have some sealing kits to use on my Heliax connectors, but the kits are from Andrew, and consist of a sealer similar to the coax seal, and some plastic tape that goes over that. The only other thing I have used has been a bit of silicone grease in some spots, and always taped exposed coax connectors with at least two layers of tape. YMMV Wayne WA2YNE Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
[Repeater-Builder] IFR 1000S Sevice litt file
I recall a service manual file on the IFR 1000s? I remembered it as being here was I misplaced?
[Repeater-Builder] Re: antenna question - Dip It and Scotch Kote
Yhis reminds me of the story of the two hams driving a guy wire stake with a sledge hammer. The one holding the stake said When I nod my head, Hit It Dail N6dgt --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Paul Plack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Uh...Burt, I think he meant water in a separate cup. Faked me out at first, too! - Original Message - From: Burt Lang To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 1:58 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: antenna question - Dip It and Scotch Kote Fine except for one problem. Water is an excellant absorber of the microwaves used in the microwave ovens (2.45 GHz) So your water will heat up quickly irregardless of the coating. The only substances that are better absorbers of that frequency are animal or vegetable fats because they contain 9 times the molecular bonds (the O-H bond) that actually do the absorbing. Burt VE2BMQ (who used to be a professional chemist) IM Ashford wrote: Paint a polythene cup with your favourite antenna covering. Let it dry and put it into the microwave oven along with a cup of water (to act as a dummy load) Cook for 1 min on max power. If it gets even slightly warm its no good for antennas. er.. can I please have an award for the first cooking recipe to get past the moderator on repeater-builder Ian G8PWE - Original Message - *From:* skipp025 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sunday, May 04, 2008 2:44 PM *Subject:* [Repeater-Builder] Re: antenna question - Dip It and Scotch Kote I constructed a 6 meter beam some years back, worked like a bomb even at 25ft above ground elevation. To ensure my pride and joy would last a long time I sprayed it with clear Krylon brand spray paint. The antenna was instantly unusable regardless of my efforts to remove the paint, re-tune or otherwise modify the antenna. I later learned that type of paint contained materials with a horible D-Factor. I was never able to use the antenna again, although it remains in my back yard as a reminder. cheers, s. Chuck Kelsey wb2edv@ wrote: Boy, you took a gamble. I'd have been afraid that this action could have either messed up the VSWR or shifted the resonant point of the antenna. Then again, maybe it did and either you don't know that or it wasn't significant. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: skipp025 skipp025@ To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 12:19 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: antenna question - Dip It and Scotch Kote Hi Robert, You might get lucky... because they might also have advertised the dip-it as an insulator material, which means someone was hopefully looking at the dissipation factor (aka D-Factor) when the compound was engineered. Time will tell... cheers, skipp georgiaskywarn kd4ydc@ wrote: Someone else told me that after I had put a whole can of dip it on the db408 I showed you. I went back and covered every inch of it with liquid electrical tape. I have had good results in the GA sun with it. 73, Robert KD4YDC
Re: Re: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: antenna question - Dip It and Scotch Kote
Hello All A couple of years ago I needed to camoflodge several new fiberglass antennas. I investigated spray can paints at the local home store and came up with Rustolum's specialty Paint For Plastic---that's what it says in headline form on the can and it also says Direct--To--Plastic--Paint and also that it is intended for indor/outdoor applications. I bought a couple of cans and tested it for RF loss problems by heavily spraying a large thin plastic bag which, after drying I put alone in the microwavenot the slightest warming after a one minute run---No problem at 2400 Mhz, plenty good for VHF/UHF. I scrubed the antennas top to bottom with acetone and painted. The paint covered very well, is still in place and the antennas work just fine. Scott, N6NXI
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: antenna question - Dip It and Scotch Kote
So what color(s) did you use to camouflage them? Joe M. Scott Overstreet wrote: Hello All A couple of years ago I needed to camoflodge several new fiberglass antennas. I investigated spray can paints at the local home store and came up with Rustolum's specialty Paint For Plastic---that's what it says in headline form on the can and it also says Direct--To--Plastic--Paint and also that it is intended for indor/outdoor applications. I bought a couple of cans and tested it for RF loss problems by heavily spraying a large thin plastic bag which, after drying I put alone in the microwavenot the slightest warming after a one minute run---No problem at 2400 Mhz, plenty good for VHF/UHF. I scrubed the antennas top to bottom with acetone and painted. The paint covered very well, is still in place and the antennas work just fine. Scott, N6NXI No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.8/1414 - Release Date: 5/4/2008 12:31 PM
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: antenna question - Dip It and Scotch Kote
Lite and dark green purposely splotchy. - Original Message - From: MCH To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: antenna question - Dip It and Scotch Kote So what color(s) did you use to camouflage them? Joe M. Scott Overstreet wrote: Hello All A couple of years ago I needed to camoflodge several new fiberglass antennas. I investigated spray can paints at the local home store and came up with Rustolum's specialty Paint For Plastic---that's what it says in headline form on the can and it also says Direct--To--Plastic--Paint and also that it is intended for indor/outdoor applications. I bought a couple of cans and tested it for RF loss problems by heavily spraying a large thin plastic bag which, after drying I put alone in the microwavenot the slightest warming after a one minute run---No problem at 2400 Mhz, plenty good for VHF/UHF. I scrubed the antennas top to bottom with acetone and painted. The paint covered very well, is still in place and the antennas work just fine. Scott, N6NXI -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.8/1414 - Release Date: 5/4/2008 12:31 PM
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Alarm on 900 MHz MSF5000
Mark wrote: When I engage in a QSO on the machine for an extended period - like 10 minutes or more - I get an alarm right before the repeater drops. It is a double beep, (beep-beep) and it happens after each transmission. However, if I allow the repeater to rest for even a short amount of time (like 1 minute or more) it resets - goes away. The extended period nature of the QSO (just as a guess) makes me think you're getting a TEMPERATURE alarm, not an SWR alarm. But I don't know if MSF5K's have such a thing. Nate WY0X
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Still looking for an RBI-1; maybe I have to build one?
Look eBay, I have one for sale, item # 190220015824 Juan _ Asunto: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Still looking for an RBI-1; maybe I have to build one? At 5/4/2008 20:20, you wrote: I know the original poster was looking for an RBI-1 but it may be more practical in the long run to look at another controller like the RC 210. It is capable of controlling several newer types of remote base radios by itself and in kit form I belive sells for about what the Doug hall sold for. http://www.arcomcon http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/rc210/rc210.html trollers.com/rc210/rc210.htmlhttp://www.arcomcon http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/rc210/rc210.html trollers.com/rc210/rc210.html The RC-210 does not suit my needs. It also doesn't (nor does any other controller) control the Kenwood TM-xx1 mobiles. Bob NO6B
[Repeater-Builder] CAT-1000 controller ED-1000W Windows Editor Program
Has anyone used the ED-1000W Windows Editor Program available for programming the CAT-1000 controllers? I'm looking for opinions. 73, Joe, K1ike
RE: [Repeater-Builder] CAT-1000 controller ED-1000W Windows Editor Program
Joe, I've been using it for several years now. It's not the easiest thing to use, but once you get used to it, it's fine. Sure beats trying to program the controller via DTMF! Mike WM4B From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 7:26 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] CAT-1000 controller ED-1000W Windows Editor Program Has anyone used the ED-1000W Windows Editor Program available for programming the CAT-1000 controllers? I'm looking for opinions. 73, Joe, K1ike image001.jpgimage002.jpg
Re: [Repeater-Builder] CAT-1000 controller ED-1000W Windows Editor Program
Thanks Mike. Where is it available from? I looked on the CAT website and could not find a download for it. Is this obsolete software? I see that they now sell a Windows version. Joe Mike Besemer (WM4B) wrote: Joe, I’ve been using it for several years now. It’s not the easiest thing to use, but once you get used to it, it’s fine. Sure beats trying to program the controller via DTMF! Mike WM4B *From:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Joe *Sent:* Monday, May 05, 2008 7:26 PM *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* [Repeater-Builder] CAT-1000 controller ED-1000W Windows Editor Program Has anyone used the ED-1000W Windows Editor Program available for programming the CAT-1000 controllers? I'm looking for opinions. 73, Joe, K1ike Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
