[Repeater-Builder] Re: RadioShack Recalls Power Supplies  Due toElectrocution and Fire Hazards

2008-07-07 Thread kb5vjy
It's funny that you should mention that... 

I am the Chief Engineer for 2 television stations where I live.  One 
of my transmitters is out of state in Arkansas.   I too built two 
identical buildings for my full power ATSC transmitters.  The 
building out of state was such a breeze!!!.. Because the square 
footage was less than X.. I didn't require any inspections, or 
strange permits The state feller showed up, looked up at the 
tower, had a cup of coffee, and asked questions not related to 
building, (hunting accually) and left.

HOWEVER.. IN Louisiana...  First I couldn't act as the General 
Contractor.. Then you have 2 different inspecting officials, Fire 
Marshall, and Local building inspector (which was sub contracted out 
to another company)  It was a living nightmare... When I started, I 
had to submit plans and drawings of this little 20x40' building. Then 
they wanted exact drawings of the electrical and plumbing for the 
building.  Well, if any of you have installed a Television 
transmitter lately, A lot of it is quite dynamic depending on 
location of the tower to the ice bridge, feed through points, and the 
location of the RF system.  It took a month and a half just to get 
the plans approved through the fire marshall... The rest is just down 
hill, including handicap accessable bathroom (uh..hello, you have to 
walk quite a bit to get to the building.  I'm afraid a hover-round 
isn't gonna make it.And this is NO offence to our disabled repeater 
builders)emergency lighting (the site has a huge backup generator 
that kicks on after 2 seconds of power failure), emergency egress 
signage (there are no walls except the exterior walls, and one door)

When it came to fire suspression systems, they couldn't figure out 
why I didn't want to use sprinklers.   A non conductive, non residue 
hand held fire suspression system finally was agreed upon.  My 
project in Louisiana cost double of my other one.  

In short... Building codes are NOT the same from state to state.  
Never assume that because it NEC compliant, that it will pass 
Louisiana's (or another state's) code.. 


73 de Joe KB5VJY

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Christopher Zeman 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It's funny you mention building construction. I work for a company 
that,
 under the original ownership in the 70's, built two identical
 facilities, one in California and one in Illinois. I work for the
 company in Illinois. The buildings were constructed to California 
code,
 and I'm sure you can imagine the problems we've had with the 
buildings
 in the winter.
 
 Chris
 N9XCR
 
 
 On Sun, 2008-07-06 at 13:12 -0500, Ron Wright wrote:
  Dave,
  
  This is a code requirement here in my county and think all of 
Florida.
  
  The code requirements for building is a county/state issue and 
vary.
  Most use the NEC code. Many have additional codes such as having 
wind
  resistance building. The way homes are constructed in the north 
would
  not be allowed in Florida mainly due to the wind. This is why we 
see
  so much concrete block construction with lots of requirements for
  attaching to foundation and roof securing. Just different part of 
the
  US.
  
  Same with electric code. For various reasons some additional 
changes
  are often made. Just because you have a code in your area does not
  mean it is in all of US. It is county mostly with some state 
codes. In
  my county there were NO building codes until the 70s. Can you 
believe
  this.
  
  73, ron, n9ee/r
  
  From: Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: 2008/07/06 Sun AM 11:43:50 EDT
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: RadioShack Recalls Power 
Supplies
  Due toElectrocution and Fire Hazards
  
   
  Where is the requirement for running a separate feed to EACH 
OUTLET 
  REQUIRED? Not in the US A dedicated out is required for 
certain 
  special situations but not for each outlet elsewhere. There are
  certain 
  other requirements such as GFCI and AFCI. But, certainly no
  dedicated 
  feeder for each out.
  
  Ron Wright wrote:
   Gary,
  
   I've noticed in panels the safety ground and neutral go to a
  different buss bar. I had thought maybe because the neutral was
  sometimes, not now to code, smaller than the neutral. However, 
both
  got connected to the panel case. One can Ohm out neutral to 
safety and
  only see the resistance in the wiring to/from the panel. However, 
as
  you well know, should not be considered the same.
  
   In most plastic coated wireing I see today the safety wire is 
green
  coated, but some is still bare as you said. I've seen lots of 
this.
  
   Now in our county following NEC code the safety wire has to be 
same
  size as neutral . No more of the 14-2 w/G cable, but 14-3 one 
being
  safety ground color or bare. Also they are doing something 
different,
  a separate set of wires must be ran between panel and each 
outlet...no
  more of one wire to one outlet and then from here to another 

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: RadioShack Recalls Power Supplies

2008-07-07 Thread Ron Wright
Bruce,

Probably should kill this topic for it has radiacally changed from orginal 
posting and not really repeater related although AC power is a concern for 
about any repeater builder.

I think one reason for separate wiring to each outlet is the way so many are 
wired using the little spring loaded connections that require only stripping 
the wire and inserting...do not use the screw terminals that most all have.

Over time the spring tention weakens producing a poor connection at one outlet 
that can lead to a high resistance and heat.  Having multiple outlets on one 
string of wiring can amplify this situation.

I don't like the strip and insert connections and think they sould no be 
allowed.  Whenever I replace/repair an outlet I cut the wire and connect to the 
screws.

I am sure there are other reasons for separate wiring to each outlet.  The 
electric code has many not so obvious reasons for what they do mainly from 
experience.

73, ron, n9ee/r





From: Bruce Bagwell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2008/07/06 Sun PM 09:08:33 EDT
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: RadioShack Recalls Power Supplies


I figured that was A local code, not NEC.  The only reason I can think of for 
that requirement is the ampacity of the 12 or 14 ga wires.  While we all know, 
in actual use, 2 or more outlets strung along will not all have 15 amp or 
higher loads in EACH outlet. However, theoretically, each outlet could have A 
20 amp load plugged into it.That is probably why some pencil pusher decided 
each outlet needs its own wire.  (Never mind the fact the breaker would trip 
regardless of what is plugged into each outlet or the number of wires leading 
to said outlets, but that's another crazy thread) As for the Breaker Box, I 
would assume each also has its own breaker. Trying to stuff more than one wire 
into A breaker would more fun than I care to have.  BruceKE5TPN 
Dave,

This is a code requirement here in my county and think all of Florida.

The code requirements for building is a county/state issue and vary. Most use 
the NEC code. Many have additional codes such as having wind resistance 
building. The way homes are constructed in the north would not be allowed in 
Florida mainly due to the wind. This is why we see so much concrete block 
construction with lots of requirements for attaching to foundation and roof 
securing. Just different part of the US.

Same with electric code. For various reasons some additional changes are often 
made. Just because you have a code in your area does not mean it is in all of 
US. It is county mostly with some state codes. In my county there were NO 
building codes until the 70s. Can you believe this.

73, ron, n9ee/r

From: Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2008/07/06 Sun AM 11:43:50 EDT
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: RadioShack Recalls Power Supplies Due 
toElectrocution and Fire Hazards

 
Where is the requirement for running a separate feed to EACH OUTLET 
REQUIRED? Not in the US A dedicated out is required for certain 
special situations but not for each outlet elsewhere. There are certain 
other requirements such as GFCI and AFCI. But, certainly no dedicated 
feeder for each out.

Ron Wright wrote:
 Gary,

 I've noticed in panels the safety ground and neutral go to a different buss 
 bar. I had thought maybe because the neutral was sometimes, not now to 
 code, smaller than the neutral. However, both got connected to the panel 
 case. One can Ohm out neutral to safety and only see the resistance in the 
 wiring to/from the panel. However, as you well know, should not be 
 considered the same.

 In most plastic coated wireing I see today the safety wire is green coated, 
 but some is still bare as you said. I've seen lots of this.

 Now in our county following NEC code the safety wire has to be same size as 
 neutral . No more of the 14-2 w/G cable, but 14-3 one being safety ground 
 color or bare. Also they are doing something different, a separate set of 
 wires must be ran between panel and each outlet...no more of one wire to 
 one outlet and then from here to another outlet, etc. Can you imagine the 
 extra cost and labor. Not sure what they do at the breaker panel...put in 
 separate breaker for each outlet. Not sure if this NEC code or something to 
 do with the hurricane code we have here in Florida. We do lots of 
 construction very different here, hi.

 73, ron, n9ee/r




 
 From: Gary Glaenzer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2008/07/06 Sun AM 10:19:49 EDT
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: RadioShack Recalls Power Supplies 
 Due toElectrocution and Fire Hazards
 

 
 


 I don't know what part of the US you live in, but around here (western IL)
 the grounding conductor ('safety ground') is bare in Romex-type cable, and
 may or may not be insulated in conduit, and usually one size smaller than
 the 'main'conductors.

 Also, the GC goes 

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: RadioShack Recalls Power Supplies

2008-07-07 Thread Gary Glaenzer
Ron;

That requirement (if it is correct) is NOT part of the NEC

It would be a local thing, and quite frankly, I feel the original poster of
that info may have incorrect information

It would, among other things, limit a home to (42 - circuits used for other
than outlets) receptacles, there being only 42 circuit breaker spaces in a
200-amp panel

Gary


- Original Message - 
From: Ron Wright
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 7:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: RadioShack Recalls Power Supplies



I am sure there are other reasons for separate wiring to each outlet. The
electric code has many not so obvious reasons for what they do mainly from
experience.

73, ron, n9ee/r

: 7/6/2008 5:26 AM



[Repeater-Builder] Re: RadioShack Recalls Power Supplies

2008-07-07 Thread wb8art
I am not buying it.  Seems over the top and you would never have 
enough breaker panel posistions for all of the needed outlets. 
Randy

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Ron Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Bruce,
 
 Probably should kill this topic for it has radiacally changed from 
orginal posting and not really repeater related although AC power is 
a concern for about any repeater builder.
 
 I think one reason for separate wiring to each outlet is the way so 
many are wired using the little spring loaded connections that 
require only stripping the wire and inserting...do not use the screw 
terminals that most all have.
 
 Over time the spring tention weakens producing a poor connection at 
one outlet that can lead to a high resistance and heat.  Having 
multiple outlets on one string of wiring can amplify this situation.
 
 I don't like the strip and insert connections and think they sould 
no be allowed.  Whenever I replace/repair an outlet I cut the wire 
and connect to the screws.
 
 I am sure there are other reasons for separate wiring to each 
outlet.  The electric code has many not so obvious reasons for what 
they do mainly from experience.
 
 73, ron, n9ee/r
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Bruce Bagwell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2008/07/06 Sun PM 09:08:33 EDT
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: RadioShack Recalls Power Supplies
 
 
 I figured that was A local code, not NEC.  The only reason I 
can think of for that requirement is the ampacity of the 12 or 14 ga 
wires.  While we all know, in actual use, 2 or more outlets strung 
along will not all have 15 amp or higher loads in EACH outlet. 
However, theoretically, each outlet could have A 20 amp load plugged 
into it.That is probably why some pencil pusher decided each outlet 
needs its own wire.  (Never mind the fact the breaker would trip 
regardless of what is plugged into each outlet or the number of wires 
leading to said outlets, but that's another crazy thread) As for the 
Breaker Box, I would assume each also has its own breaker. Trying to 
stuff more than one wire into A breaker would more fun than I care to 
have.  BruceKE5TPN 
 Dave,
 
 This is a code requirement here in my county and think all of 
Florida.
 
 The code requirements for building is a county/state issue and 
vary. Most use the NEC code. Many have additional codes such as 
having wind resistance building. The way homes are constructed in the 
north would not be allowed in Florida mainly due to the wind. This is 
why we see so much concrete block construction with lots of 
requirements for attaching to foundation and roof securing. Just 
different part of the US.
 
 Same with electric code. For various reasons some additional 
changes are often made. Just because you have a code in your area 
does not mean it is in all of US. It is county mostly with some state 
codes. In my county there were NO building codes until the 70s. Can 
you believe this.
 
 73, ron, n9ee/r
 
 From: Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2008/07/06 Sun AM 11:43:50 EDT
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: RadioShack Recalls Power 
Supplies Due toElectrocution and Fire Hazards
 
  
 Where is the requirement for running a separate feed to EACH 
OUTLET 
 REQUIRED? Not in the US A dedicated out is required for certain 
 special situations but not for each outlet elsewhere. There are 
certain 
 other requirements such as GFCI and AFCI. But, certainly no 
dedicated 
 feeder for each out.
 
 Ron Wright wrote:
  Gary,
 
  I've noticed in panels the safety ground and neutral go to a 
different buss bar. I had thought maybe because the neutral was 
sometimes, not now to code, smaller than the neutral. However, both 
got connected to the panel case. One can Ohm out neutral to safety 
and only see the resistance in the wiring to/from the panel. However, 
as you well know, should not be considered the same.
 
  In most plastic coated wireing I see today the safety wire is 
green coated, but some is still bare as you said. I've seen lots of 
this.
 
  Now in our county following NEC code the safety wire has to be 
same size as neutral . No more of the 14-2 w/G cable, but 14-3 one 
being safety ground color or bare. Also they are doing something 
different, a separate set of wires must be ran between panel and each 
outlet...no more of one wire to one outlet and then from here to 
another outlet, etc. Can you imagine the extra cost and labor. Not 
sure what they do at the breaker panel...put in separate breaker for 
each outlet. Not sure if this NEC code or something to do with the 
hurricane code we have here in Florida. We do lots of construction 
very different here, hi.
 
  73, ron, n9ee/r
 
 
 
 
  
  From: Gary Glaenzer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: 2008/07/06 Sun AM 10:19:49 EDT
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: RadioShack Recalls 
Power Supplies Due toElectrocution and Fire 

Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: RadioShack Recalls Power Supplies

2008-07-07 Thread Ron Wright
Gary,

I got this info from a local licensed electrican who does a lot of home 
construction.  He was not happy either.  My wife owning a hair salon also has 
seen a number of required changes in  your shop.

I do not thing there is a breaker for each outlet, but more than one outlet 
wired to multiple outlets to a single breaker.  I had wondered about this since 
I spoke with the electrician.

There are lots of building requirements for homes now in our area that are not 
standard in most of the US.  We have to use concrete block construction, in the 
past of over 10 years ago one simple layed the blocks.  Now in all blocks 
vertical channels a steel rod must be inserted and connected to the foundation 
and the hole filled with concrete.  A few years ago only a few of these were 
required, but now all on the outer wall must be.

Since huricane Andrew where they found many stick/2x4 built homes that got so 
easily blown away and the other hurricanes in recent years many building 
changes have been mandated.  Many problems occured due to electical problems 
causing fires and other hazards and many changes have been made.  My home built 
in 1988 would not even come close to code today.  We now cannot use 14-2 w/g 
wire.  It is 14-3 or larger.  All breaker boxes must be assible from the 
outside.  Had a friend who was updating his box and found it had to go outside. 
 Definitly increased the cost.

There are many many codes not national that must be followed.  And for good 
reason.  Would not expect to have all to have to build for high wind in say 
Chicago.  They don't get too many hurricanes up theres.  They do get tornados, 
hi.

73, ron, n9ee/r




From: Gary Glaenzer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2008/07/07 Mon AM 08:36:19 EDT
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: RadioShack Recalls Power Supplies


Ron;

That requirement (if it is correct) is NOT part of the NEC

It would be a local thing, and quite frankly, I feel the original poster of
that info may have incorrect information

It would, among other things, limit a home to (42 - circuits used for other
than outlets) receptacles, there being only 42 circuit breaker spaces in a
200-amp panel

Gary

- Original Message - 
From: Ron Wright
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 7:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: RadioShack Recalls Power Supplies

I am sure there are other reasons for separate wiring to each outlet. The
electric code has many not so obvious reasons for what they do mainly from
experience.

73, ron, n9ee/r

: 7/6/2008 5:26 AM

   
 


Ron Wright, N9EE
727-376-6575
MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS
Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL
No tone, all are welcome.




[Repeater-Builder] Re: Maxtrac Mic-Hook software option?

2008-07-07 Thread skipp025

Hi Bob, 

Well an interesting thing happens when I try two different 
band Maxtrac Radios. 

The Off-Hook option appears in the Radio Wide Settings Table as 
you suggested, but only for the low UHF and VHF band radios. 

When I use the same software to read a Conventional 900 Radio the 
Off-Hook option goes away and all I see is the Handset Y/N option 
left behind. 

I know the Conventional Firmware for the 900 Maxtrac radio is 
different from the lower frequency bands... but the off-hook option 
would normally be expected to be available in both bands. 

I guess I'm going to make up more Radius Repeater monitor mute 
plugs.  Thanks for taking the time to reply 

cheers, 
skipp 

 Bob M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yes. Check the Radio-Wide settings page, left column, bottom. There
should be something regarding the hang-up box (HUB). TAB to that
field, press F1, read the HELP screen about it, and make the
appropriate choice.
 
 Most people just short out pins 3+4 on the back of the MIC jack
inside the control head. You can still unsquelch the radio by using
the MON button on the front.
 
 Bob M.
 ==
 --- On Sun, 7/6/08, skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  From: skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Maxtrac Mic-Hook software option?
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Date: Sunday, July 6, 2008, 11:19 AM
  Hello to you Maxtrac people... Please help me answer an off 
  group email information request.
  
  Re: Maxtrac Mobile used as a repeater receiver.
  
  Is there a way in programming software to force a mic
  off-hook 
  CTCSS Decode without having to actually have the mic or a
  mute 
  plug in the radio front mic jack?  
  
  Easy enough to make the modular mic on-hook plugs but some 
  radios will allow you to toggle the CTCSS function in
  software. 
  
  Thanks in advance for your replies. 
  
  cheers, 
  skipp





Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Maxtrac Mic-Hook software option?

2008-07-07 Thread Bob M.
It may have something to do with the way the radio was initialized, as in 
product line, model number, and the various features. Lots of bits, lots of 
combinations. I'll have to run my 900 MHz radio up and see what's there.

I suppose this is one more reason why those who know just jumper the MIC jack 
pins 3+4; it works on ALL radios, regardless of race, creed, color, sexual 
preference, or political affiliation.

Bob M.
==
--- On Mon, 7/7/08, skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Maxtrac Mic-Hook software option?
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Monday, July 7, 2008, 11:30 AM
 Hi Bob, 
 
 Well an interesting thing happens when I try two different 
 band Maxtrac Radios. 
 
 The Off-Hook option appears in the Radio Wide Settings
 Table as 
 you suggested, but only for the low UHF and VHF band
 radios. 
 
 When I use the same software to read a Conventional 900
 Radio the 
 Off-Hook option goes away and all I see is the Handset Y/N
 option 
 left behind. 
 
 I know the Conventional Firmware for the 900 Maxtrac radio
 is 
 different from the lower frequency bands... but the
 off-hook option 
 would normally be expected to be available in both bands. 
 
 I guess I'm going to make up more Radius Repeater
 monitor mute 
 plugs.  Thanks for taking the time to reply 
 
 cheers, 
 skipp 
 
  Bob M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Yes. Check the Radio-Wide settings page, left column,
 bottom. There
 should be something regarding the hang-up box (HUB). TAB to
 that
 field, press F1, read the HELP screen about it, and make
 the
 appropriate choice.
  
  Most people just short out pins 3+4 on the back of the
 MIC jack
 inside the control head. You can still unsquelch the radio
 by using
 the MON button on the front.
  
  Bob M.
  ==
  --- On Sun, 7/6/08, skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  
   From: skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Maxtrac Mic-Hook
 software option?
   To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
   Date: Sunday, July 6, 2008, 11:19 AM
   Hello to you Maxtrac people... Please help me
 answer an off 
   group email information request.
   
   Re: Maxtrac Mobile used as a repeater receiver.
   
   Is there a way in programming software to force a
 mic
   off-hook 
   CTCSS Decode without having to actually have the
 mic or a
   mute 
   plug in the radio front mic jack?  
   
   Easy enough to make the modular mic on-hook plugs
 but some 
   radios will allow you to toggle the CTCSS
 function in
   software. 
   
   Thanks in advance for your replies. 
   
   cheers, 
   skipp


  


[Repeater-Builder] Re: Maxtrac Mic-Hook software option?

2008-07-07 Thread skipp025
Hi Bob, 

This case is a Maxtrac 900 Conversion from trunking to conventional 
followed by a conversion to the Amateur Band Segment. I've used the 
plug jumper but in the case of this radio being used as a repeater 
receiver it would have been nicer to simply toggle the hook-switch 
in software versus one more hardware mod.  It's now chugging along 
in repeater service so everyone's happy. 

cheers, 
skipp 


 Bob M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It may have something to do with the way the radio was initialized,
as in product line, model number, and the various features. Lots of
bits, lots of combinations. I'll have to run my 900 MHz radio up and
see what's there.
 
 I suppose this is one more reason why those who know just jumper
the MIC jack pins 3+4; it works on ALL radios, regardless of race,
creed, color, sexual preference, or political affiliation.
 
 Bob M.
 ==
 --- On Mon, 7/7/08, skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  From: skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Maxtrac Mic-Hook software option?
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Date: Monday, July 7, 2008, 11:30 AM
  Hi Bob, 
  
  Well an interesting thing happens when I try two different 
  band Maxtrac Radios. 
  
  The Off-Hook option appears in the Radio Wide Settings
  Table as 
  you suggested, but only for the low UHF and VHF band
  radios. 
  
  When I use the same software to read a Conventional 900
  Radio the 
  Off-Hook option goes away and all I see is the Handset Y/N
  option 
  left behind. 
  
  I know the Conventional Firmware for the 900 Maxtrac radio
  is 
  different from the lower frequency bands... but the
  off-hook option 
  would normally be expected to be available in both bands. 
  
  I guess I'm going to make up more Radius Repeater
  monitor mute 
  plugs.  Thanks for taking the time to reply 
  
  cheers, 
  skipp 
  
   Bob M. msf5kguru@ wrote:
  
   Yes. Check the Radio-Wide settings page, left column,
  bottom. There
  should be something regarding the hang-up box (HUB). TAB to
  that
  field, press F1, read the HELP screen about it, and make
  the
  appropriate choice.
   
   Most people just short out pins 3+4 on the back of the
  MIC jack
  inside the control head. You can still unsquelch the radio
  by using
  the MON button on the front.
   
   Bob M.



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Maxtrac Mic-Hook software option?

2008-07-07 Thread Camilo So
Hi Bob
I work in Motorola Plantation Depot for 8 years working on Maxtrac radio, They 
use to call the convention unit MAXTRAC and the trucking unit MAXTRACS with a 
S The Maxtrac 900 has a common audio problem specially the 900 trucking 
converted to conventional, on the volume control there is a module Motorola 
call it hear clear, module, at one time there is a bad batch of hear clear 
module, even after replacing a new module it never last because it belong to a 
bad batch, replacing that module to clear up the problem. hope this help.


73
W4CSO



  - Original Message - 
  From: Bob M. 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 1:36 PM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Maxtrac Mic-Hook software option?


  I ran my 900 MHz MaxTrac up. No setting in RSS for the hang-up box. I wonder 
why they did away with that.

  I also discovered that my radio has a serious receive audio problem at the 
moment; very weak, very distorted. Almost sounds off-frequency or like a cap 
has gone leaky and has upset the bias in the RX audio chain. If it's not one 
thing, it's another.

  Adding a short piece of wire across the two pins in the MIC jack is very 
easy. You only need a T15 driver to remove the front panel, then a T10 driver 
to remove one screw that holds the VOL/MIC board into the front. Unplug one 
connector and you can work on the assembly on the bench.

  Bob M.
  ==
  --- On Mon, 7/7/08, skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   From: skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Maxtrac Mic-Hook software option?
   To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
   Date: Monday, July 7, 2008, 1:22 PM
   Hi Bob, 
   
   This case is a Maxtrac 900 Conversion from trunking to
   conventional 
   followed by a conversion to the Amateur Band Segment.
   I've used the 
   plug jumper but in the case of this radio being used as a
   repeater 
   receiver it would have been nicer to simply toggle the
   hook-switch 
   in software versus one more hardware mod. It's now
   chugging along 
   in repeater service so everyone's happy. 
   
   cheers, 
   skipp 
   
   
Bob M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
It may have something to do with the way the radio was
   initialized,
   as in product line, model number, and the various features.
   Lots of
   bits, lots of combinations. I'll have to run my 900 MHz
   radio up and
   see what's there.

I suppose this is one more reason why those who
   know just jumper
   the MIC jack pins 3+4; it works on ALL radios, regardless
   of race,
   creed, color, sexual preference, or political affiliation.

Bob M.
==
--- On Mon, 7/7/08, skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   wrote:

 From: skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Maxtrac Mic-Hook
   software option?
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Monday, July 7, 2008, 11:30 AM
 Hi Bob, 
 
 Well an interesting thing happens when I try two
   different 
 band Maxtrac Radios. 
 
 The Off-Hook option appears in the Radio Wide
   Settings
 Table as 
 you suggested, but only for the low UHF and VHF
   band
 radios. 
 
 When I use the same software to read a
   Conventional 900
 Radio the 
 Off-Hook option goes away and all I see is the
   Handset Y/N
 option 
 left behind. 
 
 I know the Conventional Firmware for the 900
   Maxtrac radio
 is 
 different from the lower frequency bands... but
   the
 off-hook option 
 would normally be expected to be available in
   both bands. 
 
 I guess I'm going to make up more Radius
   Repeater
 monitor mute 
 plugs. Thanks for taking the time to reply 
 
 cheers, 
 skipp 
 
  Bob M. msf5kguru@ wrote:
 
  Yes. Check the Radio-Wide settings page,
   left column,
 bottom. There
 should be something regarding the hang-up box
   (HUB). TAB to
 that
 field, press F1, read the HELP screen about it,
   and make
 the
 appropriate choice.
  
  Most people just short out pins 3+4 on the
   back of the
 MIC jack
 inside the control head. You can still unsquelch
   the radio
 by using
 the MON button on the front.
  
  Bob M.



   

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Maxtrac Mic-Hook software option?

2008-07-07 Thread Camilo So
Sorry for the typo Trunking.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Camilo So 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 4:43 PM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Maxtrac Mic-Hook software option?



  Hi Bob
  I work in Motorola Plantation Depot for 8 years working on Maxtrac radio, 
They use to call the convention unit MAXTRAC and the trucking unit MAXTRACS 
with a S The Maxtrac 900 has a common audio problem specially the 900 
trucking converted to conventional, on the volume control there is a module 
Motorola call it hear clear, module, at one time there is a bad batch of hear 
clear module, even after replacing a new module it never last because it belong 
to a bad batch, replacing that module to clear up the problem. hope this help.


  73
  W4CSO



- Original Message - 
From: Bob M. 
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Maxtrac Mic-Hook software option?


I ran my 900 MHz MaxTrac up. No setting in RSS for the hang-up box. I 
wonder why they did away with that.

I also discovered that my radio has a serious receive audio problem at the 
moment; very weak, very distorted. Almost sounds off-frequency or like a cap 
has gone leaky and has upset the bias in the RX audio chain. If it's not one 
thing, it's another.

Adding a short piece of wire across the two pins in the MIC jack is very 
easy. You only need a T15 driver to remove the front panel, then a T10 driver 
to remove one screw that holds the VOL/MIC board into the front. Unplug one 
connector and you can work on the assembly on the bench.

Bob M.
==
--- On Mon, 7/7/08, skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Maxtrac Mic-Hook software option?
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Monday, July 7, 2008, 1:22 PM
 Hi Bob, 
 
 This case is a Maxtrac 900 Conversion from trunking to
 conventional 
 followed by a conversion to the Amateur Band Segment.
 I've used the 
 plug jumper but in the case of this radio being used as a
 repeater 
 receiver it would have been nicer to simply toggle the
 hook-switch 
 in software versus one more hardware mod. It's now
 chugging along 
 in repeater service so everyone's happy. 
 
 cheers, 
 skipp 
 
 
  Bob M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  It may have something to do with the way the radio was
 initialized,
 as in product line, model number, and the various features.
 Lots of
 bits, lots of combinations. I'll have to run my 900 MHz
 radio up and
 see what's there.
  
  I suppose this is one more reason why those who
 know just jumper
 the MIC jack pins 3+4; it works on ALL radios, regardless
 of race,
 creed, color, sexual preference, or political affiliation.
  
  Bob M.
  ==
  --- On Mon, 7/7/08, skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  
   From: skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Maxtrac Mic-Hook
 software option?
   To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
   Date: Monday, July 7, 2008, 11:30 AM
   Hi Bob, 
   
   Well an interesting thing happens when I try two
 different 
   band Maxtrac Radios. 
   
   The Off-Hook option appears in the Radio Wide
 Settings
   Table as 
   you suggested, but only for the low UHF and VHF
 band
   radios. 
   
   When I use the same software to read a
 Conventional 900
   Radio the 
   Off-Hook option goes away and all I see is the
 Handset Y/N
   option 
   left behind. 
   
   I know the Conventional Firmware for the 900
 Maxtrac radio
   is 
   different from the lower frequency bands... but
 the
   off-hook option 
   would normally be expected to be available in
 both bands. 
   
   I guess I'm going to make up more Radius
 Repeater
   monitor mute 
   plugs. Thanks for taking the time to reply 
   
   cheers, 
   skipp 
   
Bob M. msf5kguru@ wrote:
   
Yes. Check the Radio-Wide settings page,
 left column,
   bottom. There
   should be something regarding the hang-up box
 (HUB). TAB to
   that
   field, press F1, read the HELP screen about it,
 and make
   the
   appropriate choice.

Most people just short out pins 3+4 on the
 back of the
   MIC jack
   inside the control head. You can still unsquelch
 the radio
   by using
   the MON button on the front.

Bob M.




   

[Repeater-Builder] RLC-4 DVR

2008-07-07 Thread Mike Mullarkey
I have a new in the box RLC-DVR sn#1125 that I want to trade for two
RLC-ADM: Digital Audio Delay Module.  Does anybody have some that they want
to part with.

 

Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ



[Repeater-Builder] RCA TCXOs for sale

2008-07-07 Thread n0qzv_jhorn
I have a set of TCXOs for a RCA 500 series repeater.  They are 442.4 TX 
and 447.4 RX and were reworked by ICM.  Please contact me directly with 
an offer.

thank you

James