[Repeater-Builder] Need Micor 12 Volt Power Supply

[Joe Burkleo]

Hello,
I am in need of a Micor power supply to run a station off of a 12 Volt
battery bank. If anybody has one or two that they want to part with,
please email me off list.

Thanks,
Joe - WA7JAW

[Repeater-Builder] Re: [SCOM-Controllers] Re: Repeater controller suggestions (was Re: [Repeater...

[scomind]

Hi Don,
 
>If any of you  remember the date when the 7330 was first announced in 
comparison to today's  date, you'll recall that it's been quite a few years.
 
No, the 7330 is a  recent design. But besides the 7250 (the forerunner of the 
7330), there  were two other successors to the 7K that I (regretfully)  
discussed in public. First there was an 8-port -- a real thing of beauty  -- 
with a 
ColdFire processor and two TI DSPs. I halted it when it became  clear we 
would never recover the huge development costs, but not before  investing the 
equivalent of an H2. We then lowered our sights and  worked on a 4-port with 
dual 
16-bit processors. Same problem. It was  only when WA1JHK suggested we use an 
FPGA to do the heavy  lifting in hardware rather than software that things 
turned around.  That third attempt worked, and we now have a terrific platform 
for all  sorts of future projects. Today we don't build monuments to technology 
or  go crazy trying to serve a small sub-segment. The job is to offer the  
best value (as in "features per dollar").
 
>So, where is  the controller headed? What new features in the software are 
we going to  see?
 
V1.1 comes out this weekend with fixes for the reported bugs to  date and a 
huge increase in vocabulary. Top items on the next couple  releases are message 
routing and the ability to add user sound files. The  wish list is huge -- 
just ask Dave. I won't even speculate on when most of the  items on the list 
will be finished.
 
>One thing  that I can say to you and everyone else is that the SCOM products 
are well  engineered, and that when hooked up correctly to a repeater, the 
audio is  fantastic. I can't tell you how many users of my machine have 
commented on  that.
 
Thank you, I  appreciate that. Audio quality has always been the  topmost 
goal.
 
>Perhaps you  can share some upcoming ideas about the controller with the 
groups.
 
For now, we're  keeping most of that internal to the 7330 owner list. We'll 
open it up a bit  later.
 
73,
Bob






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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Looking for DTMF encoder...or suggestions

[Ken Arck]

At 07:37 PM 9/6/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>p
>
>So a port's DTMF decoder will "look" at a port even if BOTH COS & CTCSS
>logic signals to that port are invalid?
<---Well, the decoders always look at the audio stream for a 
particular Port. Now whether or not the processor  ignores or pays 
attention is another story.

All the Terminator Digit does is tell the CPU to look at the DTMF 
buffer(s) to see if they contain valid sequences and, if so, act on 
them. This is useful for not only the scenario you describe but let's 
say there's a continuous carrier so COS never drops. The Terminator 
essentially says "I don't care". Of course COS (or CTCSS closure if 
so chosen) causes evaluation as well.

In addition, using the Terminator allows one to string together 
multiple commands, separated by the Terminator, and the controller 
will act on them one by one. This is VERY useful for programming via 
DTMF remotely.

Ken
--
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Looking for DTMF encoder...or suggestions

[no6b]

At 9/6/2008 19:03, you wrote:
>At 09:15 AM 9/6/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>
> >You are giving the port a valid input so it's actually looking for DTMF,
> >correct? Otherwise, depending on the logic used in the RC-210 it may not
> >even look for DTMF. Unless the firmware has changed significantly in the
> >past 4 years, the RC-210 needs some sort of logic input on a port (COS or
> >CTCSS) in order to watch for DTMF on that port. So if you're just feeding
> >DTMF straight into a port, it needs to be active in order to respond to the
> >DTMF.
>
>to force evaluation of previously entered DTMF digits.
>
>Ken

So a port's DTMF decoder will "look" at a port even if BOTH COS & CTCSS 
logic signals to that port are invalid?

Bob NO6B

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Looking for DTMF encoder...or suggestions

[Ken Arck]

At 09:15 AM 9/6/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


>You are giving the port a valid input so it's actually looking for DTMF,
>correct? Otherwise, depending on the logic used in the RC-210 it may not
>even look for DTMF. Unless the firmware has changed significantly in the
>past 4 years, the RC-210 needs some sort of logic input on a port (COS or
>CTCSS) in order to watch for DTMF on that port. So if you're just feeding
>DTMF straight into a port, it needs to be active in order to respond to the
>DTMF.

RE: Repeater controller suggestions (was Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking ...

[Michael Ryan]

rwise, the 7330 is cheaper.



Disclosure: My company competes with Arcom and other controller
manufacturers in the amateur market.



73,

Bob



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970-419-3222 fax
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RE: Repeater controller suggestions (was Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking ...

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[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Module

[sgreact47]

We are looking for someone to build and distribute my Repeater
interface Module, and cross band Module. The Repeater Module has a
excellent track record in public safety and commercial LMR.

Contact me directly,

Will

Re: Repeater controller suggestions (was Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking ...

[no6b]

At 9/6/2008 11:51, you wrote:
>Hi Bob,
>
> >My recommendation for a 3-port controller is the SCom 7330. It's a bit
> >more expensive that the RC-210 but IMO is of higher quality. All ports
> >have dedicated hardware (tone & CTCSS generators, voice, etc.).
>
>Apples-to-apples:
>
>An RC-210 ($325) with an RC210R cabinet ($75) and an RAD triple audio 
>delay board ($75) costs $475.
>
>A 7330 costs $459 which includes the cabinet and three built-in audio delays.

I stand corrected - thanks Bob.

I bought my RC-210 as a kit & without ADMs, so it was considerably cheaper, 
though not "apples to apples" as you say.

Bob NO6B

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Yet another request for Help on a 6M repeater

[kf0m]

I have one EP38 in unknown condition.  It is a spare for our mastr pro 2
meter repeater.  It was passed to me from the former repeater tech and I
have never tried to test it.  We are also in the process of replacing the
Mastr pro with a newer Motorola machine.  Depending on how big a rush you
are in that power supply is working for sure.  Of course shipping from KS to
NH could be expensive.

John Lock
kf0m at arrl.net

> -Original Message-
> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of wa1nh
> Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 12:16 PM
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Yet another request for Help on a 6M
> repeater
>
>
> First post to the list.  Please be kind.
> I am putting together a 6M repeater.  A friend gave me a GE Master Pro
> mobile.  I need an ep38 ac power supply to put this baby on the air at
> 100% duty cycle.  Does anyone know a good resource for this power
> supply.  I have been searching for 2 months with no luck.
> I have already built an 8 cavity filter duplexer using 1 5/8 hardline.
> (was easy, got plenty of scrap at work)
>
> Jason, WA1NH
> (you guessed it, in NH)
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

Re: Repeater controller suggestions (was Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking ...

[Don Kupferschmidt]

Hi Bob:

After a very long silence about the new SCOM 7330 controller and its' present 
abilities, I'm going to throw some questions out on where the controller is 
headed in the future.

First off, for the benefit of the list members who are reading this post, I 
would like to tell you that I was one of the very 1st hams that bought a 
controller from Bob, which was the "big board" (circa early 80's).  As 
subsequent controllers came into existence, I continued to buy new controllers 
from Bob, upgrading when I could.  I never once thought to purchase any other 
controllers on the market, since his controller was superior to all others in 
my opinion.

That being said, I also understand some other things about SCOM.  Those people 
associated with building and programming the controller have full time jobs and 
family obligations, which places many constraints on bringing a new controller 
to the market place.  If any of you remember the date when the 7330 was first 
announced in comparison to today's date, you'll recall that it's been quite a 
few years.

So, where is the controller headed?  What new features in the software are we 
going to see?  Will there be:

Multiple A/D inputs with meter faces?
Autopatch and reverse patch on one of the ports, (perhaps an option)?
Other features that the users would like to see, ( a wish list, so to speak)?

One thing that I can say to you and everyone else is that the SCOM products are 
well engineered, and that when hooked up correctly to a repeater, the audio is 
fantastic.  I can't tell you how many users of my machine have commented on 
that.

Perhaps you can share some upcoming ideas about the controller with the groups.

73's

Don KD9PT


  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2008 1:51 PM
  Subject: Re: Repeater controller suggestions (was Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 
Looking ...


  Hi Bob,

  >My recommendation for a 3-port controller is the SCom 7330. It's a bit 
  >more expensive that the RC-210 but IMO is of higher quality. All ports 
  >have dedicated hardware (tone & CTCSS generators, voice, etc.).

  Apples-to-apples:

  An RC-210 ($325) with an RC210R cabinet ($75) and an RAD triple audio delay 
board ($75) costs $475.

  A 7330 costs $459 which includes the cabinet and three built-in audio delays.

  If you only buy one or two audio delays with the RC210, it's cheaper than the 
7330. Otherwise, the 7330 is cheaper.

  Disclosure: My company competes with Arcom and other controller manufacturers 
in the amateur market.

  73,
  Bob

  Bob Schmid, WA9FBO, Member
  S-COM, LLC
  PO Box 1546
  LaPorte CO 80535-1546
  970-416-6505 voice
  970-419-3222 fax
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RE: Repeater controller suggestions (was Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking ...

[Michael Ryan]

Rob,  the exasperation continues..

 

Every controller has its pros and cons just like cars. You research what you
need or want and pick one that best matches your needs.  


 That is just what I said in both emails.Have fun with your system, you
obviously did the research and have something that works for YOU.  But tell
me what HF radio that you have with memories that are accessed by the
RC-210.maybe we'll learn something here.

-Mike

 

 

 

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Pease
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2008 5:11 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: Repeater controller suggestions (was Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re:
Looking ...

 

You really should do you research better before you make statements about
the abilities of controllers. As I am sure others will tell you. I have an
Arcom RC-210 on a 440 repeater linked to a local 2m machine. Through this
system I offer.
Wx alert as well as playback of alerts

Frequency agile remote base from 80 meters thru 440 mhz, all
modes,offsets,pl's with memories

Site monitoring and alarms of temp, fans, voltage, swr, and output power
using meter faces per the manual.

And I am soon to add a complete weather station to the system but for this I
will have to piggyback a cat controller.

Every controller has its pros and cons just like cars. You research what you
need or want and pick one that best matches your needs. Then build onto the
base controler with addons as in my want of a weather station. The rc-re0
did not have it but the cat did. The cat didn't have the remote base I
wanted and has a problem with control from a control rx while there is a sig
on the main rx.

Just my 2 cents YMMV
Rob

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 -Original Message-
From:   Michael Ryan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:   Saturday, September 06, 2008 03:48 PM Eastern Standard Time
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject:RE: Repeater controller suggestions (was Re:
[Repeater-Builder]  Re: Looking ...

The ranks have to be reading these posts and thinking, "heck, what I have is
the best controller, that's why I bought it."  It's human nature, but the
choice of a controller ( and I know that I AM PREACHING TO THE CHOIR HERE )
depends as much on what you intend to do with it or how it is going to fit
what you want to do with it. NEITHER the ARCCOM or the SCOM 7330 will work
if you intend to do anything more than fairly basic things.. a repeater, a
remote base on a fixed freq, etc, etc.  Those discussions have taken place
RECENTLY on here and with the manufacturers.  If someone wants to have a
freq. agile radio, that has the different modes, bands, MEMORIES and PL, how
does S-COM and AROM fit into that category?  They don't.  It also is odd
that just about all the user manuals for these controllers all refer to the
DOUG HALL interface.  And he stopped making these how long ago?  The list of
radios that can be interfaced with SOME of the controllers out there is as
old as my aunt Bea.  So, my advice ( and sorry to say this is based on a
brief but exasperating examination of the repeater controller 'market') is
LOOK before you leap.  -Mike



From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2008 2:51 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Repeater controller suggestions (was Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re:
Looking ...



Hi Bob,



>My recommendation for a 3-port controller is the SCom 7330. It's a bit
>more expensive that the RC-210 but IMO is of higher quality. All ports
>have dedicated hardware (tone & CTCSS generators, voice, etc.).



Apples-to-apples:



An RC-210 ($325) with an RC210R cabinet ($75) and an RAD triple audio delay
board ($75) costs $475.



A 7330 costs $459 which includes the cabinet and three built-in audio
delays.



If you only buy one or two audio delays with the RC210, it's cheaper than
the 7330. Otherwise, the 7330 is cheaper.



Disclosure: My company competes with Arcom and other controller
manufacturers in the amateur market.



73,

Bob



Bob Schmid, WA9FBO, Member
S-COM, LLC
PO Box 1546
LaPorte CO 80535-1546
970-416-6505 voice
970-419-3222 fax
www.scomcontrollers.com





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RE: Repeater controller suggestions (was Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking ...

[Robert Pease]

You really should do you research better before you make statements about the 
abilities of controllers. As I am sure others will tell you. I have an Arcom 
RC-210 on a 440 repeater linked to a local 2m machine. Through this system I 
offer.
Wx alert as well as playback of alerts

Frequency agile remote base from 80 meters thru 440 mhz, all modes,offsets,pl's 
with memories

Site monitoring and alarms of temp, fans, voltage, swr, and output power using 
meter faces per the manual.

And I am soon to add a complete weather station to the system but for this I 
will have to piggyback a cat controller.

Every controller has its pros and cons just like cars. You research what you 
need or want and pick one that best matches your needs. Then build onto the 
base controler with addons as in my want of a weather station. The rc-re0 did 
not have it but the cat did. The cat didn't have the remote base I wanted and 
has a problem with control from a control rx while there is a sig on the main 
rx.

Just my 2 cents YMMV
Rob

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 -Original Message-
From:   Michael Ryan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:   Saturday, September 06, 2008 03:48 PM Eastern Standard Time
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject:RE: Repeater controller suggestions (was Re: [Repeater-Builder] 
 Re: Looking ...

The ranks have to be reading these posts and thinking, "heck, what I have is
the best controller, that's why I bought it."  It's human nature, but the
choice of a controller ( and I know that I AM PREACHING TO THE CHOIR HERE )
depends as much on what you intend to do with it or how it is going to fit
what you want to do with it. NEITHER the ARCCOM or the SCOM 7330 will work
if you intend to do anything more than fairly basic things.. a repeater, a
remote base on a fixed freq, etc, etc.  Those discussions have taken place
RECENTLY on here and with the manufacturers.  If someone wants to have a
freq. agile radio, that has the different modes, bands, MEMORIES and PL, how
does S-COM and AROM fit into that category?  They don't.  It also is odd
that just about all the user manuals for these controllers all refer to the
DOUG HALL interface.  And he stopped making these how long ago?  The list of
radios that can be interfaced with SOME of the controllers out there is as
old as my aunt Bea.  So, my advice ( and sorry to say this is based on a
brief but exasperating examination of the repeater controller 'market') is
LOOK before you leap.  -Mike

 

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2008 2:51 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Repeater controller suggestions (was Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re:
Looking ...

 

Hi Bob,

 

>My recommendation for a 3-port controller is the SCom 7330. It's a bit 
>more expensive that the RC-210 but IMO is of higher quality. All ports 
>have dedicated hardware (tone & CTCSS generators, voice, etc.).

 

Apples-to-apples:

 

An RC-210 ($325) with an RC210R cabinet ($75) and an RAD triple audio delay
board ($75) costs $475.

 

A 7330 costs $459 which includes the cabinet and three built-in audio
delays.

 

If you only buy one or two audio delays with the RC210, it's cheaper than
the 7330. Otherwise, the 7330 is cheaper.

 

Disclosure: My company competes with Arcom and other controller
manufacturers in the amateur market.

 

73,

Bob

 

Bob Schmid, WA9FBO, Member
S-COM, LLC
PO Box 1546
LaPorte CO 80535-1546
970-416-6505 voice
970-419-3222 fax
www.scomcontrollers.com





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[Repeater-Builder] Re: I have the install manual for a Zetron Model 48 to upload! How?

[Laryn Lohman]

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "moto_tech" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> I have the service/programming manual for the Zetron 48 repeater
> control panel to be uploaded. How?...Jim
>

Are these the same one that you have?  Down the list you'll see two of
them.

   

Laryn K8TVZ

RE: Repeater controller suggestions (was Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking ...

[Michael Ryan]

Bob, As I said, this is exasperating.  Each company has a little something
the other doesn't have. The controller with the independent audio delay pots
for each port.nice touch. Can save money.  Not being an apartment dweller
wanting a repeater or remote base for that reason is n/a.  If someone wants
to run 2 or 6 or 9 repeaters with one controller.fine.not my bag either.
Like I said, you have to shop for what makes sense to the individual.
Things like auto patch don't appeal much to me.  Some might need it to
control the thing but.   I carry a cel phone as do many/most.   It is an
individual's choice as to what they think gives them the best bang for the
buck, I think you'd have to agree.  -Mike

 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2008 4:23 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Repeater controller suggestions (was Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re:
Looking ...

 

Mike,

 

>NEITHER the ARCCOM or the SCOM 7330 will work if you intend to do anything
more than fairly basic things.. a repeater, a remote base on a fixed freq,
etc, etc.

 

"Fairly basic things"?

 

If you think this stuff is easy, you haven't investigated what it takes to
make one controller run three separate repeaters with 100% fully independent
features -- and do it cheaply.

 

I appreciate that your big thing is remote rig control, but: (1) It's
neither trivial nor always desirable to put those kinds of rigs at repeater
sites; (2) Users aren't that crazy about running some complex remote rig
with nothing but a DTMF pad for an input device and CW or speech for the
output device; and (3) Internet remote control makes so much more sense than
tying the rig to a repeater. There've been several articles about how to
build such stations on nice sites for use by club members that are apartment
dwellers.

 

73,

Bob  

 

Bob Schmid, WA9FBO, Member
S-COM, LLC
PO Box 1546
LaPorte CO 80535-1546
970-416-6505 voice
970-419-3222 fax
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Re: Repeater controller suggestions (was Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking ...

[scomind]

Mike,
 
>NEITHER the ARCCOM or  the SCOM 7330 will work if you intend to do anything 
more than fairly basic  things.. a repeater, a remote base on a fixed freq, 
etc,  etc.
 
"Fairly basic  things"?
 
If you think this stuff is  easy, you haven't investigated what it takes to 
make one controller run  three separate repeaters with 100% fully independent 
features -- and  do it cheaply.
 
I appreciate that your big thing is  remote rig control, but: (1) It's 
neither trivial nor always desirable to  put those kinds of rigs at repeater 
sites; 
(2) Users aren't that crazy  about running some complex remote rig with 
nothing but a DTMF pad for an input  device and CW or speech for the output 
device; 
and (3) Internet remote control  makes so much more sense than tying the rig 
to a repeater. There've been several  articles about how to build such stations 
on nice sites for use by  club members that are apartment dwellers.
 
73,
Bob   

Bob Schmid,  WA9FBO, Member
S-COM, LLC
PO Box 1546
LaPorte CO  80535-1546
970-416-6505 voice
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[Repeater-Builder] Mitreks

[Jim, K8COP]

I have a stack of UHF/VHF/Lo Band Mitreks. There is some cables, etc 
with them.  Free for pick up ONLY.  Located near Muskegon, MI.

E-mail me direct [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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RE: Repeater controller suggestions (was Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking ...

[Michael Ryan]

The ranks have to be reading these posts and thinking, "heck, what I have is
the best controller, that's why I bought it."  It's human nature, but the
choice of a controller ( and I know that I AM PREACHING TO THE CHOIR HERE )
depends as much on what you intend to do with it or how it is going to fit
what you want to do with it. NEITHER the ARCCOM or the SCOM 7330 will work
if you intend to do anything more than fairly basic things.. a repeater, a
remote base on a fixed freq, etc, etc.  Those discussions have taken place
RECENTLY on here and with the manufacturers.  If someone wants to have a
freq. agile radio, that has the different modes, bands, MEMORIES and PL, how
does S-COM and AROM fit into that category?  They don't.  It also is odd
that just about all the user manuals for these controllers all refer to the
DOUG HALL interface.  And he stopped making these how long ago?  The list of
radios that can be interfaced with SOME of the controllers out there is as
old as my aunt Bea.  So, my advice ( and sorry to say this is based on a
brief but exasperating examination of the repeater controller 'market') is
LOOK before you leap.  -Mike

 

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2008 2:51 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Repeater controller suggestions (was Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re:
Looking ...

 

Hi Bob,

 

>My recommendation for a 3-port controller is the SCom 7330. It's a bit 
>more expensive that the RC-210 but IMO is of higher quality. All ports 
>have dedicated hardware (tone & CTCSS generators, voice, etc.).

 

Apples-to-apples:

 

An RC-210 ($325) with an RC210R cabinet ($75) and an RAD triple audio delay
board ($75) costs $475.

 

A 7330 costs $459 which includes the cabinet and three built-in audio
delays.

 

If you only buy one or two audio delays with the RC210, it's cheaper than
the 7330. Otherwise, the 7330 is cheaper.

 

Disclosure: My company competes with Arcom and other controller
manufacturers in the amateur market.

 

73,

Bob

 

Bob Schmid, WA9FBO, Member
S-COM, LLC
PO Box 1546
LaPorte CO 80535-1546
970-416-6505 voice
970-419-3222 fax
www.scomcontrollers.com





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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking for DTMF encoder...or suggestions

[Nate Duehr]

On Sep 6, 2008, at 6:40 AM, georgiaskywarn wrote:

> Good Suggestion Shanon!  I have actually needed those chips from time
> to time (thanks!)

They're still available, made by a number of companies.  BG Micro used  
to stock the California Microdevices copy of the chip.

--
Nate Duehr, WY0X
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Repeater-Builder] LTR Question

[Mike Morris WA6ILQ]

Radio Shack?   LTR ??? They wouldn't know how to spell it.
They'd ask what type of cellphone it plugged into.

You've got questions?   We've got cellphones (or dumb looks).

At 08:33 AM 09/06/08, you wrote:
Try Radio Shack.   Also QST advertisements have a couple companies 
making that stuff.

Gary  K2UQ


In a message dated 9/6/2008 11:15:34 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Sept 6 - 2008

To:  All LTR Experts


We are looking for some form of LTR decoder device.  We
would like to program a specific LTR ID and have an output when this ID is
received.

For example 01-101 would produce a switch closure when decoded.
this has to be at the controller level not a mobile unsquelching.

For some reason I draw a blank whe thinking about a source.
Zetron says they don't have it (  how about that ? )

Best regards from the Windy City

Ed
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Re: Repeater controller suggestions (was Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking ...

[scomind]

Hi Bob,
 
>My recommendation for a 3-port controller is the SCom 7330. It's a bit  
>more expensive that the RC-210 but IMO is of higher quality. All ports  
>have dedicated hardware (tone & CTCSS generators, voice,  etc.).
 
Apples-to-apples:
 
An RC-210 ($325) with an RC210R cabinet ($75) and an RAD  triple audio delay 
board ($75) costs $475.
 
A 7330 costs $459 which includes the cabinet and three  built-in audio delays.
 
 
If you only buy one or two audio delays with the RC210,  it's cheaper than 
the 7330. Otherwise, the 7330 is cheaper.

 
Disclosure: My company competes with Arcom and other controller  
manufacturers in the amateur market.
 
73,
Bob
 
Bob Schmid,  WA9FBO, Member
S-COM, LLC
PO Box 1546
LaPorte CO  80535-1546
970-416-6505 voice
970-419-3222  fax
www.scomcontrollers.com



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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Yet another request for Help on a 6M repeater

[Chuck Kelsey]

Jason,

I'm willing to bet that you can pick up a Mastr II, Exec II, MVP or a Micor 
radio cheaper than a power supply for a Mastr Pro. Then you'll have 
something all solid state and it runs on 12 volts. Just a suggestion.

Chuck
WB2EDV



- Original Message - 
From: "wa1nh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 1:15 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Yet another request for Help on a 6M repeater


> First post to the list.  Please be kind.
> I am putting together a 6M repeater.  A friend gave me a GE Master Pro
> mobile.  I need an ep38 ac power supply to put this baby on the air at
> 100% duty cycle.  Does anyone know a good resource for this power
> supply.  I have been searching for 2 months with no luck.
> I have already built an 8 cavity filter duplexer using 1 5/8 hardline.
> (was easy, got plenty of scrap at work)
>
> Jason, WA1NH
> (you guessed it, in NH)
> 

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Looking for DTMF encoder...or suggestions

[MCH]

True, but the reason was likely to prevent the 'button press' when the 
PTT was active. How many times have you hit a button accidentally on a 
DTMF mic? In the commercial world, most would not have understood what 
happened - especially if the controller mutes DTMF (which most 
commercial controllers do not).

Joe M.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> At 9/6/2008 07:26, you wrote:
>> I bet I can take *any* controller and connect
>> it in such a way it will not decode DTMF tones. ;->
>>
>> That said, two things to remember about Motorola DTMF mics. First, the
>> bias was already mentioned. If the mic isn't getting voltage, how could
>> it ever produce DTMF tones? Second, many times the Motorola mics are
>> wired to NOT produce tones when the mic button is pressed. I modified
>> mine to produce them when the PTT is in.
> 
> Ditto on the Kenwood KMC-18.  Drove me nuts until I realized that.  Must be 
> a "commercial" thing, as I don't know of any ham DTMF mic that works that way.
> 
> Bob NO6B
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Looking for DTMF encoder...or suggestions

[no6b]

At 9/6/2008 07:26, you wrote:
>I bet I can take *any* controller and connect
>it in such a way it will not decode DTMF tones. ;->
>
>That said, two things to remember about Motorola DTMF mics. First, the
>bias was already mentioned. If the mic isn't getting voltage, how could
>it ever produce DTMF tones? Second, many times the Motorola mics are
>wired to NOT produce tones when the mic button is pressed. I modified
>mine to produce them when the PTT is in.

Ditto on the Kenwood KMC-18.  Drove me nuts until I realized that.  Must be 
a "commercial" thing, as I don't know of any ham DTMF mic that works that way.

Bob NO6B

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Yet another request for Help on a 6M repeater

[Jon]

I may have 2 of those...in a cabinet...with 2 - 2m progress line
machines...and a extra 6m
transmitter stripI'll have to go out and verify the numbers on it

Jon

On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 12:15 PM, wa1nh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   First post to the list. Please be kind.
> I am putting together a 6M repeater. A friend gave me a GE Master Pro
> mobile. I need an ep38 ac power supply to put this baby on the air at
> 100% duty cycle. Does anyone know a good resource for this power
> supply. I have been searching for 2 months with no luck.
> I have already built an 8 cavity filter duplexer using 1 5/8 hardline.
> (was easy, got plenty of scrap at work)
>
> Jason, WA1NH
> (you guessed it, in NH)
>
>  
>

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Looking for DTMF encoder...or suggestions

[no6b]

At 9/6/2008 00:04, you wrote:
>At 10:47 AM 09/03/08, you wrote:
> >I am constructing one of the "repeater-builders friends'", and am in
> >need of a DTMF pad, or suggestions. I have a Motorola DTMF mic that I
> >picked up from someone @ work. I have tried it direct into the
> >controller, through a pot, and through an amplifier w/ a matching
> >transformer on it. The controller is an ARCOM 210 and it does not
> >seem to be picking up the tones no matter what I try. The controller
> >is brand new, and was purchased assembled and tested, so I can only
> >assume that it is fully functional.
> >
> >Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.
> >
> >Jeremy
> >KB3BAM

You are giving the port a valid input so it's actually looking for DTMF, 
correct?  Otherwise, depending on the logic used in the RC-210 it may not 
even look for DTMF.  Unless the firmware has changed significantly in the 
past 4 years, the RC-210 needs some sort of logic input on a port (COS or 
CTCSS) in order to watch for DTMF on that port.  So if you're just feeding 
DTMF straight into a port, it needs to be active in order to respond to the 
DTMF.

Bob NO6B

[Repeater-Builder] Parts

[modemsofast]

Hi All,

I have lots of tone reeds, a bunch of GE and Moto channel elements,
some PA's, rf decks and more. Just got ten working computers that
would be great for VOIP stations…

This is all available for trade / helping a public Ham project 

Contact me off site if you need something…


Toby Driscoll – N5SIM

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] [Fwd: Re: Looking for DTMF encoder...or suggestions]

[Lobaugh, Jeremy]

 Thanks to everyone for their suggestions. I have the controller up and
running now, thanks to the DTMF encoder built into the RCP software. The
Repeater-Builders Friend will have to wait for a bit, most likely until
a hamfest, when I come across an old HT or a unmounted encoder, for
cheap-like, I really don't need the microphone, but it was free, which
fits well into my budget for the project.

 

73's

Jeremy Lobaugh

KB3BAM

 

 

 

<>

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking for DTMF encoder...or suggestions

[Lobaugh, Jeremy]

 

 

 Thanks to everyone for their suggestions. I have the controller up and running 
now, thanks to the DTMF encoder built into the RCP software. The 
Repeater-Builders Friend will have to wait for a bit, most likely until a 
hamfest, when I come across an old HT or a unmounted encoder, for cheap-like, I 
really don't need the microphone, but it was free, which fits well into my 
budget for the project.

 

73's

Jeremy Lobaugh

KB3BAM
 

<>

[Repeater-Builder] Yet another request for Help on a 6M repeater

[wa1nh]

First post to the list.  Please be kind.
I am putting together a 6M repeater.  A friend gave me a GE Master Pro
mobile.  I need an ep38 ac power supply to put this baby on the air at
100% duty cycle.  Does anyone know a good resource for this power
supply.  I have been searching for 2 months with no luck.
I have already built an 8 cavity filter duplexer using 1 5/8 hardline.
(was easy, got plenty of scrap at work)

Jason, WA1NH
(you guessed it, in NH)

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking for DTMF encoder...or suggestions

[Chuck Lippmeier]

I did the original programming of my NHRC-4 controller using this download.
I just ran the s/w and held the mic to the computer speaker.

 http://www.polar-electric.com/DTMF/Index.html

 

Chuck Lippmeier

KB1HTO

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking for DTMF encoder...or suggestions

[jlobaugh814]

Thanks for all of the suggestions. I have found that the tones coming 
out of the mic are simply not hot enough for the controller. I was 
able to use the pad built into the Arcom RCP software. As far as 
purchasing a pad, I was looking in the 5 dollar range, I will 
probably wait until the Butler(PA) Hamfest, and search through the 
boxes under the tables.

As far as the controller itself, It is for a club repeater and the 
decision to purchase it was a compromise of price and performance. 
For the money, the 210 is a great buy in my opinion, and I don't see 
how your opinion of the 210 has anything to do with my original 
question.

Again, thanks to all who provided feedback on the microphone issue, 
maybe I will plug away at it next week...for now, I have a controller 
to program and get wired up. 

73's
Jeremy Lobaugh
KB3BAM

 

"The creator of the universe works in mysterious ways. But he uses a 
base ten counting system and likes round numbers."

-Scott Adams




--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Eric Harrison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Fist of all I would have not wasted my money a such a poorly
> engineered controller, ARCOM RC-210). 
> Second of all if it is a new controller assembled and tested at the
> factory then I would be contacting Ken Ark with ACOM  and getting 
your
> money back (GOOD LUCK!) or having him help you trouble-shoot your
> problem. I have owned two of these controllers in the past and had
> nothing but issue after issue with them. As I said before they are a
> poorly engineered controller. Suggest you look at Link-Comm or S-
Comm
> for you future controller needs.
> 
> 
> ERIC
> 
> N7JYS
> 
> 
> 
> --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Mike Morris WA6ILQ
>  wrote:
> >
> > At 10:47 AM 09/03/08, you wrote:
> > >I am constructing one of the "repeater-builders friends'", and 
am in
> > >need of a DTMF pad, or suggestions. I have a Motorola DTMF mic 
that I
> > >picked up from someone @ work. I have tried it direct into the
> > >controller, through a pot, and through an amplifier w/ a matching
> > >transformer on it. The controller is an ARCOM 210 and it does not
> > >seem to be picking up the tones no matter what I try. The 
controller
> > >is brand new, and was purchased assembled and tested, so I can 
only
> > >assume that it is fully functional.
> > >
> > >Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.
> > >
> > >Jeremy
> > >
> > >KB3BAM
> > 
> > Check out 
> > 
> > I've used the PK3  a couple of times:
> > 
> > 
> > Good stuff.   Joe Oliveira is good people.
> > 
> > Mike WA6ILQ
> >
>

[Repeater-Builder] I have the install manual for a Zetron Model 48 to upload! How?

[moto_tech]

I have the service/programming manual for the Zetron 48 repeater
control panel to be uploaded. How?...Jim

Repeater controller suggestions (was Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking for DTMF encoder...or suggestions)

[no6b]

At 9/5/2008 22:53, you wrote:
>We are putting up three new repeaters. I just got Hipro's new catalog and 
>I see Arcom is listed in what looks like a favored status. Since we have 
>limited funds, I would like to know if there are problems with it or is it 
>just a fluke? If so we can look at other controllers. I would appreciate 
>feedback before we spend money. Anyone please?  Thank you!
>73
>Dave

My recommendation for a 3-port controller is the SCom 7330.  It's a bit 
more expensive that the RC-210 but IMO is of higher quality.  All ports 
have dedicated hardware (tone & CTCSS generators, voice, etc.).

Bob NO6B

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking for DTMF encoder...or suggestions

[no6b]

At 9/5/2008 22:26, you wrote:

>Heck, While we re piling on, I had a Pinto once&damned thing smoked all 
>the time, finally caught fire.  COOOL&.  -M

Funny, I never heard of a "Pinto" repeater.

;)

Bob NO6B

Re: [Repeater-Builder] LTR Question

[albemarle7]

Try Radio Shack.   Also QST advertisements have a couple  companies making 
that stuff.
Gary  K2UQ
 
 
 
In a message dated 9/6/2008 11:15:34 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 
Sept 6 - 2008
 
To:  All LTR  Experts
 
 
We are looking for some form of LTR  decoder device.  We 
would like to program a specific LTR ID  and have an output when this ID is 
received. 
 
For example 01-101 would produce a switch  closure when decoded.
this has to be at the controller level  not a mobile unsquelching.
 
For some reason I draw a blank whe  thinking about a source.
Zetron says they don't have it (   how about that ? ) 
 
Best regards from the Windy  City
 
Ed 
Com/Rad Inc

 




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[Repeater-Builder] LTR Question

[Com/Rad Inc]

Sept 6 - 2008

To:  All LTR Experts


We are looking for some form of LTR decoder device.  We 
would like to program a specific LTR ID and have an output when this ID is 
received. 

For example 01-101 would produce a switch closure when decoded.
this has to be at the controller level not a mobile unsquelching.

For some reason I draw a blank whe thinking about a source.
Zetron says they don't have it (  how about that ? ) 

Best regards from the Windy City

Ed 
Com/Rad Inc

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking for DTMF encoder...or suggestions

[Eric Harrison]

Off topic? How so? 

The controller is an ARCOM 210 and it does not
> > > > >seem to be picking up the tones no matter what I try. The
> controller
> > > > >is brand new, and was purchased assembled and tested, so I
can only
> > > > >assume that it is fully functional.
> > 


Sounds like to me Jeremy has clearly stated that the arcom 210 was
involved in is technical issue since it wasn't picking up tones no
matter what he tryed. 

Never assume anything just because is't new. I had some of the same
issues with a second controller purchased. 


> > > > >Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > > >Jeremy
> > > > >
> > > > >KB3BAM

Jeremy asked for help OR SUGGESTIONS! So i gave my suggestions.


Sorry if you didn't see it that way.   

I even gave the RC-210 a second chance to my great disappointment
of purchasing a second controller. Needless to say it got sold on ebay  
right away.



Eric

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Piling On... Was: Looking for DTMF encoder...or suggestions

[MCH]

It shows you can get a bad 'anything'.

Many people who swear by the MASTR II. Others swear AT them. Maybe that 
example will seem more 'relevant' even though it's saying the same thing.

Joe M.

Dave wrote:
> what has that to do with repeater building?
> 
> Doug Zastrow wrote:
>> I bought a brand new 1978 Chevette that was a total lemon.  I had to 
>> park it on a slope and let roll down hill to start it. And if I drove 
>> through a puddle of water the starter would seize requiring a quick 
>> bolt loosening/tightening maneuver.  And the tranny went out at 2300 
>> miles. Red rust on the hood and clutch failure at 13 months old. 
>> Horrible alternator whine (slightly on topic now).  And..  It 
>> became known as the Sh*tvette.
>>  
>> I had a Ham friend (ever so slightly more on topic now) who had one 
>> and said it was the most reliable vehicle he had ever owned.
>>  
>> My ex-wife had a Pinto and it DID smoke and catch on fire too!
>>  
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> *From:* Michael Ryan 
>> *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>> 
>> *Sent:* Saturday, September 06, 2008 12:26 AM
>> *Subject:* RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking for DTMF
>> encoder...or suggestions
>>
>> Heck, While we’re piling on, I had a Pinto once…damned thing
>> smoked all the time, finally caught fire.  COOOL….  -M
>>
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Looking for DTMF encoder...or suggestions

[MCH]

I bet I can take *any* controller and connect
it in such a way it will not decode DTMF tones. ;->

That said, two things to remember about Motorola DTMF mics. First, the 
bias was already mentioned. If the mic isn't getting voltage, how could 
it ever produce DTMF tones? Second, many times the Motorola mics are 
wired to NOT produce tones when the mic button is pressed. I modified 
mine to produce them when the PTT is in.

Joe M.

Mike Morris WA6ILQ wrote:
> At 10:47 AM 09/03/08, you wrote:
>> I am constructing one of the "repeater-builders friends'", and am in
>> need of a DTMF pad, or suggestions. I have a Motorola DTMF mic that I
>> picked up from someone @ work. I have tried it direct into the
>> controller, through a pot, and through an amplifier w/ a matching
>> transformer on it. The controller is an ARCOM 210 and it does not
>> seem to be picking up the tones no matter what I try. The controller
>> is brand new, and was purchased assembled and tested, so I can only
>> assume that it is fully functional.
>>
>> Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.
>>
>> Jeremy
>> KB3BAM
> 
> There may be nothing wrong with the Arcom - the mic may not
> be making DTMF.
> 
> What model number of microphone is it?
> And what is it designed to plug into?  Micor, Maxtrac, Spectra?
> 
> First get the Moto DTMF microphone working.  All it should take is a
> clean source of + voltage and a capacitor.
> 
> Once you can hear DTMF into a test speaker you can go further.
> 
> Mike WA6ILQ
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking for DTMF encoder...or suggestions

[lenaw12]

Hi Robert...

Bottom line is you need some sort of power to run the TT Pad. If the
controller doesn't send it "up the line" from the microphone jack, you
have to figure out how to get it there.

There have been several good suggestions how to accomplish that. Are
you looking for help with a "pin by pin conversion?"

LW


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "georgiaskywarn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Good Suggestion Shanon!  I have actually needed those chips from time
> to time (thanks!)
> 
> What about this?  I have a handful of dtmf pads from various IC2at,
> 3at and 4at (one other that is a knock off that starts with a "S"?)
> that was used in remote base projects.
> 
> I wonder if I could make one of these work?  What a great idea for
> programming these things (Arcom 210 btw)  What would I need to
> make that work?
> 
> Thanks,
> Robert
> KD4YDC
>

[Repeater-Builder] [Fwd: Re: Looking for DTMF encoder...or suggestions]

[Dave]

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Many thanks Robert and all who replied on and off list. I suspect what 
ever the consensus of opion is, it is a good indicator. I am very 
grateful to all. Because as you know, when we reinvent the wheel, it 
usually cones out square!

Thanks all!
73
Dave

georgiaskywarn wrote:

Good Morning Dave,
Name here is Robert Burton KD4YDC and I live just south of the metro
Atlanta area in Fayetteville,GA.  


I love the Arcom 210.  Own 2 of them.  Will buy another if the need
arises.  HiPro...don't know.  I have (and used), Moto Micro, GE Mastr
II converted mobiles, GE Mastr Exec II mobiles and RCA 500 repeater
(which I love).  All of them with good results.  All cheap to get and
get on the air.  


My repeaters are used with the Georgia Skywarn Linked Repeater System
(www.georgiaskywarn.com) and the Southeastern Linked Repeater Net
(stoddard.homeip.net/slrn).  On the SLRN, it gets HEAVY use every
Wednesday night (1.5 hour key down each week).  The SKYWARN nets, the
repeaters are used with the remote base system to link in everything.
 Love the ease of getting repeaters linked in.

Ken is VERY GOOD to work with.  I think the other gentleman just had a
bad experience and short temper.  Some people you just can't please. 
Any time I have had problems (I build the things from kits), Ken was

just an email or phone call away.  Because of the "things" I needed to
do with the system...I brought some unique things to the table...so it
even challenged Ken.  He has always been able to deliver.  The yahoo
group is also a good source.  Suggest you take a look at that (the
RC210 group).

Good Luck.  Let me know if I can help.

Robert Burton
KD4YDC
DEC NWS in Peachtree City, GA


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  
We are putting up three new repeaters. I just got Hipro's new catalog 
and I see Arcom is listed in what looks like a favored status. Since we 
have limited funds, I would like to know if there are problems with it 
or is it just a fluke? If so we can look at other controllers. I would 
appreciate feedback before we spend money. Anyone please?  Thank you!

73
Dave

lenaw12 wrote:

Other than being off-topic for the topic (but not this list), I 
disagree.  Personally, I'd like to know exactly what Eric doesn't



like about the RC-210.  I've owned one myself & didn't care for it
either, but obviously many others have opposite opinions.
  
Bob NO6B


Bob and all the "others who have opposite opinions"

The obvious track would be to start a new string that was "on
topic"... Nowhere has anyone asked for opinions as to the quality of
the Motorola mic, the microphone cable, the connector, or the ARCOM
controller.

If you and all the "others who have opposite opinions" (opposite to
what I don't know) want to discuss the advantages or disadvantages of
one of the particular components in the original setup, start a new
topic...

That way, those of us who have heard this before can ignore the same
old discussion that occurred previously.

Otherwise, the rest of us would like to work at resolving the original
"problem" which is purely technical in nature at this time and not
emotional.

LW







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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking for DTMF encoder...or suggestions

[georgiaskywarn]

Good Suggestion Shanon!  I have actually needed those chips from time
to time (thanks!)

What about this?  I have a handful of dtmf pads from various IC2at,
3at and 4at (one other that is a knock off that starts with a "S"?)
that was used in remote base projects.

I wonder if I could make one of these work?  What a great idea for
programming these things (Arcom 210 btw)  What would I need to
make that work?

Thanks,
Robert
KD4YDC

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Piling On... Was: Looking for DTMF encoder...or suggestions

[Dave]

what has that to do with repeater building?

Doug Zastrow wrote:
I bought a brand new 1978 Chevette that was a total lemon.  I had to 
park it on a slope and let roll down hill to start it. And if I drove 
through a puddle of water the starter would seize requiring a quick 
bolt loosening/tightening maneuver.  And the tranny went out at 2300 
miles. Red rust on the hood and clutch failure at 13 months old. 
Horrible alternator whine (slightly on topic now).  And..  It 
became known as the Sh*tvette.
 
I had a Ham friend (ever so slightly more on topic now) who had one 
and said it was the most reliable vehicle he had ever owned.
 
My ex-wife had a Pinto and it DID smoke and catch on fire too!
 


- Original Message -
*From:* Michael Ryan 
*To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com

*Sent:* Saturday, September 06, 2008 12:26 AM
*Subject:* RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking for DTMF
encoder...or suggestions

Heck, While we're piling on, I had a Pinto once...damned thing
smoked all the time, finally caught fire.  COOOL  -M

 

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Looking for DTMF encoder...or suggestions

[Michael Ryan]

Jeremy, The brand that I used recently that works fine with the 210 is the
SELECTONE, MOD#ST-139 CTCSS ENCODER/DECODER DECK. - Mike

 

 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Morris WA6ILQ
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2008 3:04 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Looking for DTMF encoder...or suggestions

 

At 10:47 AM 09/03/08, you wrote:
>I am constructing one of the "repeater-builders friends'", and am in
>need of a DTMF pad, or suggestions. I have a Motorola DTMF mic that I
>picked up from someone @ work. I have tried it direct into the
>controller, through a pot, and through an amplifier w/ a matching
>transformer on it. The controller is an ARCOM 210 and it does not
>seem to be picking up the tones no matter what I try. The controller
>is brand new, and was purchased assembled and tested, so I can only
>assume that it is fully functional.
>
>Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.
>
>Jeremy
>KB3BAM

There may be nothing wrong with the Arcom - the mic may not
be making DTMF.

What model number of microphone is it?
And what is it designed to plug into? Micor, Maxtrac, Spectra?

First get the Moto DTMF microphone working. All it should take is a
clean source of + voltage and a capacitor.

Once you can hear DTMF into a test speaker you can go further.

Mike WA6ILQ

 

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Looking for DTMF encoder...or suggestions

[Mike Morris WA6ILQ]

At 10:47 AM 09/03/08, you wrote:
>I am constructing one of the "repeater-builders friends'", and am in
>need of a DTMF pad, or suggestions. I have a Motorola DTMF mic that I
>picked up from someone @ work. I have tried it direct into the
>controller, through a pot, and through an amplifier w/ a matching
>transformer on it. The controller is an ARCOM 210 and it does not
>seem to be picking up the tones no matter what I try. The controller
>is brand new, and was purchased assembled and tested, so I can only
>assume that it is fully functional.
>
>Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.
>
>Jeremy
>KB3BAM

There may be nothing wrong with the Arcom - the mic may not
be making DTMF.

What model number of microphone is it?
And what is it designed to plug into?  Micor, Maxtrac, Spectra?

First get the Moto DTMF microphone working.  All it should take is a
clean source of + voltage and a capacitor.

Once you can hear DTMF into a test speaker you can go further.

Mike WA6ILQ