[Repeater-Builder] Re: isolator

2008-11-13 Thread Ron Wright
Bob,

Yes, I looked for better than hour and did find some good info.  I am 
sure not all for it seems hard to locate some items after having to 
read thru tons of titles, but then again one learns about other 
things, hi.

73, ron, n9ee/r

ps Thanks to all who replied with real information.





--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Bob M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Have you checked the web site that accompanies this Yahoo! Group?
 
 Bob M.
 ==
 --- On Wed, 11/12/08, Ron Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  From: Ron Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] isolator
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2008, 11:01 PM
  Hi all,
  
  I have aquired a EMR Isolator, model 7450/4 for 150-170 Mhz
  and tuned 
  to 155 MHz.
  
  It has 3 tuning adjustments so need to retune it.
  
  Can anyone give info as to how to tune it or where I can
  get info.  EMR 
  has good info on what it does and how it works, but found
  nothing at 
  their site on tuning.  Tune for low SWR, max power out, min
  smoke, 
  etc???
  
  73, ron, n9ee/r





Re: [Repeater-Builder] isolator

2008-11-13 Thread Bob M.
Have you checked the web site that accompanies this Yahoo! Group?

Bob M.
==
--- On Wed, 11/12/08, Ron Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Ron Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] isolator
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2008, 11:01 PM
 Hi all,
 
 I have aquired a EMR Isolator, model 7450/4 for 150-170 Mhz
 and tuned 
 to 155 MHz.
 
 It has 3 tuning adjustments so need to retune it.
 
 Can anyone give info as to how to tune it or where I can
 get info.  EMR 
 has good info on what it does and how it works, but found
 nothing at 
 their site on tuning.  Tune for low SWR, max power out, min
 smoke, 
 etc???
 
 73, ron, n9ee/r


  


[Repeater-Builder] Icom repeater

2008-11-13 Thread Maire-Radios
Have a new in box Icom Fr-4000 repeater for sale.

$1145.00 also covers shipping to the 48 states. Florida sales must add sales 
tax.


also a number of Micor repeaters for sale all UHF was used 460 to 470 band  12 
to 75 watt units.
Some working units some for parts.

thanks  John

1-888-708-0709




RE: [Repeater-Builder] isolator

2008-11-13 Thread no6b
At 11/12/2008 20:20, you wrote:
Ron,

Contact EMR and request a copy of the bulletin, Field Tuning of Isolators.
Be aware that typical circulators and isolators can be field-tuned perhaps
+/- 2% from the frequency for which they were made.  If you want to use it
at a new frequency that is more than 3 or 4 MHz away, it probably will need
to be remanufactured at about 1/3 to 1/2 the cost of a new unit.

This is incorrect.  If it was, then virtually all surplus VHF isolators 
would be unusable at 2 meters.  My collection of isolators I've acquired at 
swap meets over the years that have been retuned  work just fine at 2 
meters is proof that they do in fact move further than 3 or 4 MHz away.

   You should
use a vector network analyzer, or at least a spectrum analyzer with tracking
generator and a return-loss bridge, to properly tune a circulator or
isolator.

Not necessary.  I use a transmitter  power meter,  first apply power in 
the forward direction through the isolator  tune the adjustments near the 
input  output ports (1  2) for max. power.  Then reverse the input  
output connections  tune the adjustment near the reject load (3) for 
minimum power.  Repeat the procedure a 2nd time.  You should get anywhere 
from 20 to 30 dB of isolation, depending on how good the load on port 3 
is.  BTW, this is probably why you almost never see an isolator with SO239 
connectors, even at VHF HB.

Bob NO6B



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Icom repeater

2008-11-13 Thread rb_n3dab
John,

How much for a part of of one of your scrap Micor.   I'm looking for the metal 
L shaped bracket that secoure the PL decoder board to the rear of the unified 
chasis.  Don't need the PL bd. , just the bracket and screws.   
--
Doug   
N3DAB/WPRX486/WPJL709

 Maire-Radios [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

=
Have a new in box Icom Fr-4000 repeater for sale.

$1145.00 also covers shipping to the 48 states. Florida sales must add sales 
tax.


also a number of Micor repeaters for sale all UHF was used 460 to 470 band  12 
to 75 watt units.
Some working units some for parts.

thanks  John

1-888-708-0709





Re: [Repeater-Builder] Icom repeater

2008-11-13 Thread Maire-Radios
let me go look at one 

thanks  John


  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Cc: Maire-Radios 
  Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 10:09 AM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Icom repeater


  John,

  How much for a part of of one of your scrap Micor. I'm looking for the metal 
L shaped bracket that secoure the PL decoder board to the rear of the unified 
chasis. Don't need the PL bd. , just the bracket and screws. 
  --
  Doug 
  N3DAB/WPRX486/WPJL709

   Maire-Radios [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

  =
  Have a new in box Icom Fr-4000 repeater for sale.

  $1145.00 also covers shipping to the 48 states. Florida sales must add sales 
tax.

  also a number of Micor repeaters for sale all UHF was used 460 to 470 band 12 
to 75 watt units.
  Some working units some for parts.

  thanks John

  1-888-708-0709



   

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Icom repeater

2008-11-13 Thread rb_n3dab
Roger, standing by!
--
Doug   
N3DAB/WPRX486/WPJL709

 Maire-Radios [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

=
let me go look at one 

thanks  John


  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Cc: Maire-Radios 
  Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 10:09 AM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Icom repeater


  John,

  How much for a part of of one of your scrap Micor. I'm looking for the metal 
L shaped bracket that secoure the PL decoder board to the rear of the unified 
chasis. Don't need the PL bd. , just the bracket and screws. 
  --
  Doug 
  N3DAB/WPRX486/WPJL709

   Maire-Radios [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

  =
  Have a new in box Icom Fr-4000 repeater for sale.

  $1145.00 also covers shipping to the 48 states. Florida sales must add sales 
tax.

  also a number of Micor repeaters for sale all UHF was used 460 to 470 band 12 
to 75 watt units.
  Some working units some for parts.

  thanks John

  1-888-708-0709



   


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: Motorola P-100 radio's

2008-11-13 Thread Mike Pugh


Maire-Radios wrote:
 ** 
 *Sent:* Thursday, November 13, 2008 8:01 PM
 *Subject:* Motorola P-100 radio's

 *Have a bin of Motorola P-100 2 channel and some 6 channel UHF  460 to 
 470 band  and a number of chargers.*

Hw big is the bin? How many radios are we talking about? Mike



[Repeater-Builder] Anyone have experience with RF Technology Pty Ltd. repeater gear?

2008-11-13 Thread surf_boy82
Hi Group,

The shop I work at was recently given a couple of decommissioned LTR
repeaters after the customer moved to a different radio format.

The stations are made by RF Technology Pty Ltd. out of Australia, and
consist of a 19 card cage containing a T500B Transmitter, R500B
Receiver and PA500B Power Amplifier, as well as a power supply. On the
back is an alarm  trunking interface card that was connected to an
LTR controller.

In my readings, I've discovered these are 450-490MHz stations that
will supposedly produce 50W 100% of the time.

Anyone have any experience with this gear? I'm wondering if I should
buy one or two from the company and turn them in to 440MHz machines. 

Does anyone know if they will tune down to the UHF amateur band?

Do they have internal PL encode/decode, or must I use an outboard
encoder/decoder?

Whats the performance like? Duty cycle?

Any hints or kinks on these units?

It appears to me that DX Radio relabels these units and resells them,
or RF Technology is relabeling DX Radio gear, as the hardware is
physically identical.

I base this on what I've seen on the web, I have no experience with
either product.

Thanks for the heads up.

-Chris/KF6AJM



RE: [Repeater-Builder] Anyone have experience with RF Technology Pty Ltd. repeater gear?

2008-11-13 Thread Mike Mullarkey
Chris,

 

The units your looking at are a great set of repeaters. You can call Ron
Tilley at RF Technologies but keep in mind they are way ahead of us. You
will want to call them around 8PM in the evening. I believe they will work
in the ham band.

 

Mike K7PFJ

 

  _  

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of surf_boy82
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 9:37 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Anyone have experience with RF Technology Pty
Ltd. repeater gear?

 

Hi Group,

The shop I work at was recently given a couple of decommissioned LTR
repeaters after the customer moved to a different radio format.

The stations are made by RF Technology Pty Ltd. out of Australia, and
consist of a 19 card cage containing a T500B Transmitter, R500B
Receiver and PA500B Power Amplifier, as well as a power supply. On the
back is an alarm  trunking interface card that was connected to an
LTR controller.

In my readings, I've discovered these are 450-490MHz stations that
will supposedly produce 50W 100% of the time.

Anyone have any experience with this gear? I'm wondering if I should
buy one or two from the company and turn them in to 440MHz machines. 

Does anyone know if they will tune down to the UHF amateur band?

Do they have internal PL encode/decode, or must I use an outboard
encoder/decoder?

Whats the performance like? Duty cycle?

Any hints or kinks on these units?

It appears to me that DX Radio relabels these units and resells them,
or RF Technology is relabeling DX Radio gear, as the hardware is
physically identical.

I base this on what I've seen on the web, I have no experience with
either product.

Thanks for the heads up.

-Chris/KF6AJM

 



[Repeater-Builder] Re: Anyone have experience with RF Technology Pty Ltd. repeater gear?

2008-11-13 Thread surf_boy82
Much obliged, Mike. Glad to hear it. I was able to obtain programming
software and cable schematics as well as some documentation from their
website, so perhaps tomorrow if time permits I'll see what they can do.

Amateur LTR system anyone? Just kidding.

Best,

Chris/KF6AJM

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Mike Mullarkey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Chris,
 
  
 
 The units your looking at are a great set of repeaters. You can call Ron
 Tilley at RF Technologies but keep in mind they are way ahead of us. You
 will want to call them around 8PM in the evening. I believe they
will work
 in the ham band.
 
  
 
 Mike K7PFJ
 
  
 
   _  
 
 From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of surf_boy82
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 9:37 PM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Anyone have experience with RF
Technology Pty
 Ltd. repeater gear?
 
  
 
 Hi Group,
 
 The shop I work at was recently given a couple of decommissioned LTR
 repeaters after the customer moved to a different radio format.
 
 The stations are made by RF Technology Pty Ltd. out of Australia, and
 consist of a 19 card cage containing a T500B Transmitter, R500B
 Receiver and PA500B Power Amplifier, as well as a power supply. On the
 back is an alarm  trunking interface card that was connected to an
 LTR controller.
 
 In my readings, I've discovered these are 450-490MHz stations that
 will supposedly produce 50W 100% of the time.
 
 Anyone have any experience with this gear? I'm wondering if I should
 buy one or two from the company and turn them in to 440MHz machines. 
 
 Does anyone know if they will tune down to the UHF amateur band?
 
 Do they have internal PL encode/decode, or must I use an outboard
 encoder/decoder?
 
 Whats the performance like? Duty cycle?
 
 Any hints or kinks on these units?
 
 It appears to me that DX Radio relabels these units and resells them,
 or RF Technology is relabeling DX Radio gear, as the hardware is
 physically identical.
 
 I base this on what I've seen on the web, I have no experience with
 either product.
 
 Thanks for the heads up.
 
 -Chris/KF6AJM





Re: [Repeater-Builder] Anyone have experience with RF Technology Pty Ltd. repeater gear?

2008-11-13 Thread jgielis
On 14/11/2008 2:37:18 PM, surf_boy82 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 Hi Group,
 
 The shop I work at was recently given a couple of decommissioned LTR
 repeaters after the customer moved to a different radio format.
 
 The stations are made by RF Technology Pty Ltd. out of Australia, and
 consist of a 19 card cage containing a T500B Transmitter, R500B
 Receiver and PA500B Power Amplifier, as well as a power supply. On the
 back is an alarm  trunking interface card that was connected to an
 LTR controller.
 
 In my readings, I've discovered these a


This may help you Chris...
http://www.rftechnology.com.au/rf_fsmiles.html
I just googled T500B and chose the RF technology link.

rgds John
VK4JKL