RE: [Repeater-Builder] FW: climbing cost WAG help

2009-05-10 Thread Ham-Radio
The last crew I hired cost me $1.00 per foot per man on the tower plus
$60.00 per hour for ground crew.

The hard line you can estimate.

Charles Miller
 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of kf0m
Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 10:33 PM
To: repeater builder reflector
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] FW: climbing cost WAG help



 We recently found out our 25 yr old feedlines have been broken and beat up
 by the wind at about 700 ft.
 
 Anybody got the background to provide a rough estimate for 
 climber costs to
 string two runs of hard line to 1300 Ft and remove the old runs?
 
 I am guessing the cost will mean the end of the line for this repeater but
 need to let the club board know.
 
 Back when we put these lines up, we could still use the elevator and climb
 ourselves.  These days we are all 25 yrs older, OSHA made the station
 disconnect the elevator, and liability concerns means the station wouldn't
 even remotely consider non professionals on the tower.
 
 
 John Lock
 kf0m at arrl.net
 
 






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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Info on old Repco UHF receiver needed.

2009-05-10 Thread skipp025

Hi Steve, 

Not knowing model numbers for Repco gear I will say I have 
a number of Repco Manuals scanned into pdf. If you can 
describe it to me or send me a picture of it... I might 
be able to help. 

Probably best to do it direct... 

cheers, 
skipp 

skipp025 at yahoo.com 

> "wa4ita"  wrote:
> Hi,
> I have an old Repco TLR5uc-Q- and I could sure use 
> an instruction sheet and pin out.  Can anyone help?
> TNX de Steve, WA4ITA





[Repeater-Builder] Info on old Repco UHF receiver needed.

2009-05-10 Thread wa4ita
Hi,

I have an old Repco TLR5uc-Q- and I could sure use an instruction sheet and pin 
out.  Can anyone help?

TNX de Steve, WA4ITA



Re: CORRECTION Re: [Repeater-Builder] (anderson power poles revisited)

2009-05-10 Thread MCH
Well, I *was* addressing your comment of "Also just to
be accurate, there aren't "many" ways they can be configured, only two", 
and not how many "correct ways" there were based on the ARES/RACES 
standard. If you go by how many "correct ways" there are to configure 
them per that standard, the answer is: only one.

Joe M.

Nate Duehr wrote:
> MCH wrote:
>> I have to correct something I said. I forgot that while the PPs are 
>> genderless as far as the connectors go, the KEYWAYS are not, so half of 
>> the 16 configurations will not mate.
>>
>> As such, there are only 8 configurations that will mate.
>> See the attached pic.
>> Number 1 is the ARES/RACES standard, BTW.
>>
>> Still, a lot more than two.
>>
>> So, Nate, willing to meet me half way???
>>
>> Joe M.
> 
> No, because only two of those will physically MATE with a connector set 
> that's been BUILT CORRECTLY.
> 
> You keep missing that part.  You can't mate your examples 3-8 with one 
> that's done right.
> 
> So for purposes of the "worry" that someone could damage equipment... 
> 3-8 are a non-sequitur.
> 
> By the way, #1 is "done right", but you knew that already.  Just 
> commenting on it for those reading along...
> 
> The only "dangerous" configuration in your photo is #2, which doesn't 
> match the "standard" config out there that major manufacturers are using 
> on their power strips, etc.
> 
> If you plug #2 into a commercial device with the correct standard, 
> you'll clearly see that red doesn't go to red, and black doesn't go to 
> black.
> 
> So, yes...  You CAN configure them backward, and you can plug them in 
> that way.
> 
> And if someone does this -- they're dumber than a box of rocks.
> 
> So maybe PowerPoles really became the standard, just to be a basic 
> skills test!
> 
> :-)
> 
> I completely understood what you were saying about the combinations, and 
> appreciate the time you took to take the photo and everything -- but it 
> didn't matter... you can't mate those other examples physically with 
> anyone's correctly built ones.
> 
> So while they're "possible" to build, they don't count for this 
> particular discussion.
> 
> Hey, I know!  Personally, I'm going to turn all of mine upside down!
> 
> Then none of these ultra sharp tacks who are hooking them up wrong, will 
> be able to figure out how to plug into them!
> 
> (Yeah, that last line is a joke.)
> 
> Nate WY0X
> 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: 450 Micor Repeator Amp

2009-05-10 Thread k0jxi
Thanks for the information, Dale


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Captainlance  wrote:
>
> yes, no problems.Just keep the drive between 1.5 and 2 watts, with the power 
> set adjusted for 80 watts or less at the antenna port...
> 
> Lance N2HBA
>   - Original Message - 
>   From: k0jxi 
>   To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 12:52 PM
>   Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 450 Micor Repeator Amp
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   I am sure this has been asked before but I could not find any comprehensive 
> links.
> 
>   Will the Motorola 450 to 470 75 watt Micor Repeater Amp TLE1713A work 
> safely in the ham band on TX of 444.900. Most of my experience is with GE and 
> not Motorola.
> 
>   Appreciate any advice.
> 
>   Dale, K0JXI
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Do you know Any Kenwood TKR 720 in Junk? to salvage MPC......

2009-05-10 Thread skipp025
Hi Peter, 

You best bet is to watch Ebay for a "tech special", which is 
most often when some one else makes a train wreck out of a
repeater. You might also check in to see if the tkr-820 chip 
is the same up. I'd have to take a look at the circuit details 
but I would think they are the same unless the frequency 
determining portion of the circuit operation is burned as 
firmware into the uP. 

I and others do have shelf stored dead (needing repair) tkr-720 
units... but my repeater needs only a new RF PA when I have the 
time to deal with it. So in short my unit(s) aren't for sale... 

You can also search around for the tkb-720 to see if the processor 
is the same animal. I'll keep my eyes open for you... and of 
course the Dayton Hamvention is the next weekend.  

cheers, 
skipp 

ps: Although the uP (processor) chip is not available... you might 
check part sources to see if the entire board can be purchased. 
Not a super cost effective solution, but at least one more available 
option if you need it. 


> "Peter P J"  wrote:
>
> Further to my earlier posting, I tried to locate the Microprocessor Chip for 
> the TKR 720- IC uPD 75104G-604-1B, from all known sources in US to Hongkong! 
> Pacparts and Kenwood HK clearly said it is out of production and no more 
> available, AND no substitutes!!. 
> 
> Two requests:
> 
> No.1. 
> Can any one help me with a junk collected Display board with the above IC? 
> D75104G-J99 (NEC) in TKB-720 can also be utilized. OR any other source for a 
> salvaging of this chip?
> 
> No2.
> All other PCBs and the PSU are made OK in this Amateur VHF repeater,
> It delivers 50W!
> Any modifications? or can we separate the RX and TX circuits and add some 
> other repeater controller to eliminate the  above IC.  It is so sad to 
> discard a beautiful equipment just on need of one chip!!
> 
> Peter
>




[Repeater-Builder] Do you know Any Kenwood TKR 720 in Junk? to salvage MPC......

2009-05-10 Thread Peter P J
Further to my earlier posting, I tried to locate the Microprocessor Chip for 
the TKR 720- IC uPD 75104G-604-1B, from all known sources in US to Hongkong! 
Pacparts and Kenwood HK clearly said it is out of production and no more 
available, AND no substitutes!!. 

Two requests:

No.1. 
Can any one help me with a junk collected Display board with the above IC? 
D75104G-J99 (NEC) in TKB-720 can also be utilized. OR any other source for a 
salvaging of this chip?

No2.
All other PCBs and the PSU are made OK in this Amateur VHF repeater,
It delivers 50W!
Any modifications? or can we separate the RX and TX circuits and add some other 
repeater controller to eliminate the  above IC.  It is so sad to discard a 
beautiful equipment just on need of one chip!!

Peter






Re: CORRECTION Re: [Repeater-Builder] (anderson power poles revisited)

2009-05-10 Thread Nate Duehr
MCH wrote:
> I have to correct something I said. I forgot that while the PPs are 
> genderless as far as the connectors go, the KEYWAYS are not, so half of 
> the 16 configurations will not mate.
> 
> As such, there are only 8 configurations that will mate.
> See the attached pic.
> Number 1 is the ARES/RACES standard, BTW.
> 
> Still, a lot more than two.
> 
> So, Nate, willing to meet me half way???
> 
> Joe M.

No, because only two of those will physically MATE with a connector set 
that's been BUILT CORRECTLY.

You keep missing that part.  You can't mate your examples 3-8 with one 
that's done right.

So for purposes of the "worry" that someone could damage equipment... 
3-8 are a non-sequitur.

By the way, #1 is "done right", but you knew that already.  Just 
commenting on it for those reading along...

The only "dangerous" configuration in your photo is #2, which doesn't 
match the "standard" config out there that major manufacturers are using 
on their power strips, etc.

If you plug #2 into a commercial device with the correct standard, 
you'll clearly see that red doesn't go to red, and black doesn't go to 
black.

So, yes...  You CAN configure them backward, and you can plug them in 
that way.

And if someone does this -- they're dumber than a box of rocks.

So maybe PowerPoles really became the standard, just to be a basic 
skills test!

:-)

I completely understood what you were saying about the combinations, and 
appreciate the time you took to take the photo and everything -- but it 
didn't matter... you can't mate those other examples physically with 
anyone's correctly built ones.

So while they're "possible" to build, they don't count for this 
particular discussion.

Hey, I know!  Personally, I'm going to turn all of mine upside down!

Then none of these ultra sharp tacks who are hooking them up wrong, will 
be able to figure out how to plug into them!

(Yeah, that last line is a joke.)

Nate WY0X