Re: [Repeater-Builder] 900mhz Mastr II repeaters

2009-06-07 Thread wb2...@aol.com


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I have a set of 3 MASTR II 900mhz repeaters that i am going to part out. These 
were part of a trucking system. They all still have the GETC controllers with 
them. Sorry but I do not have the MO. Is there anyone interested in any of the 
parts from these oldies but goodies? I had planned on using them for a 900mhz 
repeater but found a Motorola MSF-5000 that was a lot easier to get into the 
ham bands. Drop me an email if you have any interest and we will see what we 
can do.



Dan




 

  




















[Repeater-Builder] Re: 900mhz Mastr II repeaters

2009-06-07 Thread Dan
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Dan n0...@... wrote:

 I have a set of 3 MASTR II 900mhz repeaters that i am going to part out. 
 These were part of a trucking system. They all still have the GETC 
 controllers with them. Sorry but I do not have the MO. Is there anyone 
 interested in any of the parts from these oldies but goodies? I had planned 
 on using them for a 900mhz repeater but found a Motorola MSF-5000 that was a 
 lot easier to get into the ham bands. Drop me an email if you have any 
 interest and we will see what we can do.
 
 Dan


forgot to add that I also have the 26volt power supplies that go with these 
repeaters. No puny 12 volters here



[Repeater-Builder] Re: Power Supply for Repeater

2009-06-07 Thread Dan
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, agrimm0034 agrimm0...@... wrote:

 GMRS home brewed repeater with a 25 watt maxtrac receiving and the transmit 
 radio is a m1225 40 watt. The power supply on it now is around 6 amps and 
 will not handle the load when radio transmits. Can anyone give me a 
 approximate amp power supply I need. I found how to build a 10 amp power 
 supply but I'm still not sure that will be enough.


I would go for something in the 12-15 amp range. That way you have plenty of 
amps and the supply doesnt have to run at full load all the time.



RE: [Repeater-Builder] Power Supply for Repeater

2009-06-07 Thread Eric Lemmon
The MaxTrac service manual states that 1.5 amperes is drawn during receive,
and the M1225 service manual states that the 40-watt UHF radio draws 12.5
amperes during transmit.  If we allow 1/2 ampere for the controller, the
worst-case current load is about 14.5 amperes.  The best choice for repeater
service is a power supply rated for continuous load of 15 amperes, minimum,
and an Astron RS-20 would be a good choice.

However, the M1225 will burn up in short order if run at 40 watts in
repeater service, so it should be dialed back to perhaps 25 watts, with a
fan blowing on its heat-sink fins.  This will reduce its current draw to
perhaps 9 amperes, but the fan will add perhaps 1/4 ampere.  Even at the low
power setting, you're still looking at a continuous load of perhaps 11
amperes, and again the Astron RS-20 is a good choice.

Keep in mind that power supply ratings are usually based on intermittent
loads, and the continuous load ratings are always lower and often are fine
print specifications.  If you are determined to build your own power supply
from scratch, choose a design that can provide 20 amperes.  I think you'll
find that the parts costs of a home-brewed power supply in the 20-ampere
class comes pretty close to what a commercial power supply costs.  When you
add the cost of a nice cabinet, you may not save a dime by building it
yourself.  Choose wisely...

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
 

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Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Power Supply for Repeater



GMRS home brewed repeater with a 25 watt maxtrac receiving and the transmit
radio is a m1225 40 watt. The power supply on it now is around 6 amps and
will not handle the load when radio transmits. Can anyone give me a
approximate amp power supply I need. I found how to build a 10 amp power
supply but I'm still not sure that will be enough. 



[Repeater-Builder] Re: Quantar widlcard question

2009-06-07 Thread nj902
I'll post the numbers tomorrow.

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--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, rahwayflynn mafl...@... wrote:

1K is for the SAM option is less then half the cost of using a Zetron HEAR 
decoder.  Might you have part numbers so I can add it to the MOL account?




RE: [Repeater-Builder] MSF Squelch EEpot

2009-06-07 Thread N9WYS
Doesn't that (squelch tail without reverse burst) already occur?   If so,
I'm not particularly worried about it.

 

Mark - N9WYS

 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of James Delancy

PL only squelch will work solely on the PL detect function of the station.
This means that if the PL coming out of the user radio is good and clean, it
will hear to the noise floor.  That also means that if the user radios do
not have reverse burst on them, then every unkey will yield a burst of
squelch noise.

James



N9WYS wrote: 

Adam...
 
My experience with a C85GFB is that my squelch also seems a bit tight, but
so far I have not been able to do anything about it.  I set it to threshold
when I had the service monitor on it, and the station was within
specifications.  
 
FWIW - I currently have the station set for AND squelch, but have been
told that PL-only squelch may be a bit more forgiving.  I just haven't had
an opportunity to get to the tower and change the setting to see for myself
whether this is true.
 
Mark - N9WYS

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[Repeater-Builder] 19D424984 G1 Tx Monitor panel

2009-06-07 Thread Doug
Has anyone any information on this panel. I searched the LBI's but nothing.
Google also wasn't much help. It is a GE panel from all the numbers it has
on it and since the directional coupler uses UHF connectors, I would suggest
that it is for VHF.

Any help would be appreciated.

Doug VE5DA




RE: [Repeater-Builder] 19D424984 G1 Tx Monitor panel

2009-06-07 Thread Eric Lemmon
Doug,

The 19D424984G1 is an IMTS Station Voltage Control Panel.  It is designed to
run on either -48 VDC or -24 VDC, and is intended for controlling the output
power of 50 or 100 watt GE Mastr II IMTS (Improved Mobile Telephone System)
base station transmitters.  One of its functions is to cut back on the
output power during intervals when only the idle tone is transmitted.  The
specific band in which the panel operates is determined by the part number
of the RF Detector Module:
19D424785G1 is low band
19D424785G2 is high band
19D424785G3 is UHF

The manual that covers this unit is LBI-8878, but alas, this LBI is so rare
that it was not scanned for the GE LBI database.  Needless to say, IMTS went
away many years ago as cellular technologies took hold.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY


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Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 19D424984 G1 Tx Monitor panel



Has anyone any information on this panel. I searched the LBI's but nothing.
Google also wasn't much help. It is a GE panel from all the numbers it has
on it and since the directional coupler uses UHF connectors, I would suggest
that it is for VHF.

Any help would be appreciated.

Doug VE5DA



Re: [Repeater-Builder] 19D424984 G1 Tx Monitor panel

2009-06-07 Thread Paul Plack
This is still one of my all-time favorite oxymorons! ;^) - Paul, AE4KR

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  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 19D424984 G1 Tx Monitor panel





  ...since the directional coupler uses UHF connectors, I would suggest
  that it is for VHF.


  . 

  

RE: [Repeater-Builder] 19D424984 G1 Tx Monitor panel

2009-06-07 Thread Doug
At 08:36 PM 07/06/2009, you wrote:
Doug,

The 19D424984G1 is an IMTS Station Voltage Control Panel.  It is designed to
run on either -48 VDC or -24 VDC, and is intended for controlling the output
power of 50 or 100 watt GE Mastr II IMTS (Improved Mobile Telephone System)
base station transmitters.  One of its functions is to cut back on the
output power during intervals when only the idle tone is transmitted.  The
specific band in which the panel operates is determined by the part number
of the RF Detector Module:
19D424785G1 is low band
19D424785G2 is high band
19D424785G3 is UHF

The manual that covers this unit is LBI-8878, but alas, this LBI is so rare
that it was not scanned for the GE LBI database.  Needless to say, IMTS went
away many years ago as cellular technologies took hold.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
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Thanks very much for that info Eric... I picked one up for the right price and
was wondering if it would be of any use in our MSTR II repeater system. But,
it sounds like it is not... Interesting thing tho.. Has two 
directional couplers
built into a small box and a nice meter. The two couplers are 
probably calibrated
for the power set functions. One high and one low Would sure like to of had
a schematic for it  Oh well flea bait now...

thanks

73 Doug