[Repeater-Builder] WTB:MSF 5000 UHF SSCB digital board
For the c74cxb uhf repeater.
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Closed Repeaters
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Rabin Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 1:57 PM To: Repeater-Builder Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Closed Repeaters Please excuse Me. I feel compelled to make this one comment. Consider for a moment the fact that when one employs a repeater, they are effectively sitting on two Amateur frequencies within a given geographic area. If I were to claim two Amateur frequencies let's say for instance on the HF band, and tell others they cannot use them what would most of us say? I for one would say you were working split. 73! -Adam WJ4X
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Closed Repeaters
Adam that was funny! Thanks for that. Have fun, Alan Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Adam techiea...@yahoo.com Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:48:38 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Closed Repeaters From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Rabin Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 1:57 PM To: Repeater-Builder Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Closed Repeaters Please excuse Me. I feel compelled to make this one comment. Consider for a moment the fact that when one employs a repeater, they are effectively sitting on two Amateur frequencies within a given geographic area. If I were to claim two Amateur frequencies let's say for instance on the HF band, and tell others they cannot use them what would most of us say? I for one would say you were working split. 73! -Adam WJ4X
[Repeater-Builder] ICE lightning protectors
The few that I have used gave me an upset in SWR at some point and I trashed them. I know someone else who had the same experience. The Polyphasers have always behaved. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Michael J.Talkington kc8...@hotmail.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 12:57 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Sinclair Q202 duplexers (frankenstein series) Eric, Please read about this Lightning arrestor that drains static and please let me know your thoughts as I use them here http://www.iceradioproducts.com/impulse1.html#1 http://www.iceradioproducts.com/33.htm Thanks Mike KC8FWD Yahoo! Groups Links
[Repeater-Builder] Re: ICE lightning protectors
Chuck, I have used them here at home,That is why i asked Eric about them cause I figured someone has tried them for repeater use.Thanks for the info Mike KC8FWD
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: ICE lightning protectors
There were on repeaters. They started out fine. As time passed I noticed that the SWR was up slightly. It ended up being the ICE protector. There were Polyphasers on other cables on the panel that were just fine. I've had two do this to me and a friend had one do the same thing. I'm not sold on them. Did they take a hit? Who knows. Seems odd that the other devices appeared to be just fine. However, I don't think I've ever heard anyone say what the failure mode is. I'm assuming it to be a short, or at least a huge bump in SWR. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Michael J.Talkington kc8...@hotmail.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 10:49 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: ICE lightning protectors Chuck, I have used them here at home,That is why i asked Eric about them cause I figured someone has tried them for repeater use.Thanks for the info Mike KC8FWD Yahoo! Groups Links
[Repeater-Builder] Talking clock has failed on our RC-85 V5.2 FW.
I've searched the forum and the internet for info on the talking clock option on our rc-85 w/ v 5.2 firmware but found nothing so far. Our rc-85 is still in use at 4000 ft so I'm collecting data before we visit the site. Our manual and upgrade data was not been kept up to date over the last 20+ years so I'm starting from scratch. The paperwork I do have shows an upgrade to v5.2 firmware but no date. It mentions 2 IC's were installed. One I'm sure was a new EPROM and the other mentions a battery backed up clock chip if I read it right. Is it possible the Y2K issue kicked in, or that the battery backup on the clock chip has failed? Everything I can find about the clock is how to add a RS talking Clock, not much about the onboard option? We will go to the site and document the current chipset on our rc-85 when time permits. It can be sent out for repairs but we don't have a spare controller so the machine would be down during that time, something we're trying to avoid. I did get the feeling that this may be a warning sign that the EPROM's may be failing and this is only the start. A newer replacement may be the way to go as a last resort! Thank you for any help you can give us. Are there any groups dedicated to ACC Controllers? Glen wa6mha
[Repeater-Builder] Another take on Open/Closed RPTRS
This argument can fall in line with all the other arguments online and on air about the way it used to be done. Before the ARRL Repeater Directory, if it had a tone on it, it was considered 'closed'. If you made the proper contacts amongst the closed repeater group, you were bequeathed with the tone freq., and given access. How you got the tone in your Prog Line or Motorola was your business. After the Directory started coming out, it was understood if the control tone was published in the Directory, it was considered 'open', unless noted otherwise. Any repeater with no tone was open unless labeled as closed. The base argument is, if a bunch of hams get together, pool their money, build/buy a machine, acquire tower rights, get a freq. pair, and put a repeater on the air, if they want it to be exclusive, that is their right. You don't like it, do all the things necessary and put up an open machine. And the real bottom line comes down to, that same bunch of hams that want a closed machine, do it usually to avoid having to deal with the type of individual who does not want to learn the etiquette of a particular repeater. Some repeaters are there for a specific interest group and they like to keep things on subject for the most part be it a DX operators machine, a boatanchor operators machine, or whatever. There are folks who don't want RACES, or ARES using their machine for nets, or races, or parades, or mock disasters. When a ham notices that when using a repeater, and he finally lets up on the PTT, and finds the machine gone, he might consider the control operator does not know him, like him from previous runins, or approve of his conversation. This might be cause for self examiniation, and not an attack on closed repeater operators. In most things in this life, you have to earn some respect before being allowed full benefits, and access to a repeater is no different in many cases. Many times, the saying, If you ain't kin, you ain't in, applies to repeaters, just like it applies to small Southern Baptist churches. Yes, nobody 'owns' a frequency, but like land at the beginning of this country, it was who got there first, and staked a claim, and to h**l with the Indians.. Charlie W4MEC in NC
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Talking clock has failed on our RC-85 V5.2 FW.
Try to replace the DS1216E Clock Module, It is sandwiched in between the board and I believe the RAM chip but I am not 100% on that, look for the chip that has an extra thick socket in between It Must be enabled after installation by entering 9213528835. This secret code sets the tens year inside the clock chip to 5. The controller should respond to the code by saying OK. If the DS1216E is not initialized properly, the following features in V5 will not work: female vocabulary, time, date, HF remote base. These are side effects of an effort to prevent software (firmware) piracy. On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 10:02 AM, wa6mha_glenwa6...@arrl.net wrote: I've searched the forum and the internet for info on the talking clock option on our rc-85 w/ v 5.2 firmware but found nothing so far. Our rc-85 is still in use at 4000 ft so I'm collecting data before we visit the site. Our manual and upgrade data was not been kept up to date over the last 20+ years so I'm starting from scratch. The paperwork I do have shows an upgrade to v5.2 firmware but no date. It mentions 2 IC's were installed. One I'm sure was a new EPROM and the other mentions a battery backed up clock chip if I read it right. Is it possible the Y2K issue kicked in, or that the battery backup on the clock chip has failed? Everything I can find about the clock is how to add a RS talking Clock, not much about the onboard option? We will go to the site and document the current chipset on our rc-85 when time permits. It can be sent out for repairs but we don't have a spare controller so the machine would be down during that time, something we're trying to avoid. I did get the feeling that this may be a warning sign that the EPROM's may be failing and this is only the start. A newer replacement may be the way to go as a last resort! Thank you for any help you can give us. Are there any groups dedicated to ACC Controllers? Glen wa6mha Yahoo! Groups Links
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Another take on Open/Closed RPTRS
I have saved this explanation, so I can use it for a reference when I am ask a question that applies (-:. Thank you for a very good piece of work. 73 de John Godfrey KE5NZY BARC Pres. DISTRICT B ADEC ASTEN NM -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mjca...@yahoo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 1:20 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Another take on Open/Closed RPTRS This argument can fall in line with all the other arguments online and on air about the way it used to be done. Before the ARRL Repeater Directory, if it had a tone on it, it was considered 'closed'. If you made the proper contacts amongst the closed repeater group, you were bequeathed with the tone freq., and given access. How you got the tone in your Prog Line or Motorola was your business. After the Directory started coming out, it was understood if the control tone was published in the Directory, it was considered 'open', unless noted otherwise. Any repeater with no tone was open unless labeled as closed. The base argument is, if a bunch of hams get together, pool their money, build/buy a machine, acquire tower rights, get a freq. pair, and put a repeater on the air, if they want it to be exclusive, that is their right. You don't like it, do all the things necessary and put up an open machine. And the real bottom line comes down to, that same bunch of hams that want a closed machine, do it usually to avoid having to deal with the type of individual who does not want to learn the etiquette of a particular repeater. Some repeaters are there for a specific interest group and they like to keep things on subject for the most part be it a DX operators machine, a boatanchor operators machine, or whatever. There are folks who don't want RACES, or ARES using their machine for nets, or races, or parades, or mock disasters. When a ham notices that when using a repeater, and he finally lets up on the PTT, and finds the machine gone, he might consider the control operator does not know him, like him from previous runins, or approve of his conversation. This might be cause for self examiniation, and not an attack on closed repeater operators. In most things in this life, you have to earn some respect before being allowed full benefits, and access to a repeater is no different in many cases. Many times, the saying, If you ain't kin, you ain't in, applies to repeaters, just like it applies to small Southern Baptist churches. Yes, nobody 'owns' a frequency, but like land at the beginning of this country, it was who got there first, and staked a claim, and to h**l with the Indians.. Charlie W4MEC in NC
[Repeater-Builder] Getting mice out of a repeater sight
Hey guys, I am sure many of you have been through this before. The evil mice decided to waunder in to my repeater sight. Up until now they avoided my repeater, but when I went up there, I was less than pleased. They didn't chew any wires thank god, but they walked across the top of the icom rp4020, and left some presents if you know what I mean. I need some input, what's the best way to clean it up, anything in particular? All the covers were on, so I don't think they got inside, but haven't pulled the cover off yet. Any ideas? Thanks, Jed
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Getting mice out of a repeater sight
Jed, Get a few cats and a big water dish and leave them there for several days. Ha Ha just kidding. Decon works good and will kill them. Mike From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jed Barton Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 2:19 PM To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Getting mice out of a repeater sight Hey guys, I am sure many of you have been through this before. The evil mice decided to waunder in to my repeater sight. Up until now they avoided my repeater, but when I went up there, I was less than pleased. They didn't chew any wires thank god, but they walked across the top of the icom rp4020, and left some presents if you know what I mean. I need some input, what's the best way to clean it up, anything in particular? All the covers were on, so I don't think they got inside, but haven't pulled the cover off yet. Any ideas? Thanks, Jed No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.33/2267 - Release Date: 07/27/09 17:59:00
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Getting mice out of a repeater sight
Leave them a note, tell them it's a CLOSED repeater system. ( Sorry, I couldn't resist..) Are you in a cold climate area or is the repeater in a WARMER area than the outside ambient air temp? - M From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jed Barton Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 4:19 PM To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Getting mice out of a repeater sight Hey guys, I am sure many of you have been through this before. The evil mice decided to waunder in to my repeater sight. Up until now they avoided my repeater, but when I went up there, I was less than pleased. They didn't chew any wires thank god, but they walked across the top of the icom rp4020, and left some presents if you know what I mean. I need some input, what's the best way to clean it up, anything in particular? All the covers were on, so I don't think they got inside, but haven't pulled the cover off yet. Any ideas? Thanks, Jed __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4283 (20090727) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4283 (20090727) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com image001.jpgimage002.jpg
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Getting mice out of a repeater sight
any suggestions on what to clean the repeater off with? I just hope they didn't get inside the Icom. I guess it's time to bring the rubber gloves up to the sight, lol. _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Mullarkey Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 4:26 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Getting mice out of a repeater sight Jed, Get a few cats and a big water dish and leave them there for several days. Ha Ha just kidding. Decon works good and will kill them. Mike From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jed Barton Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 2:19 PM To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Getting mice out of a repeater sight Hey guys, I am sure many of you have been through this before. The evil mice decided to waunder in to my repeater sight. Up until now they avoided my repeater, but when I went up there, I was less than pleased. They didn't chew any wires thank god, but they walked across the top of the icom rp4020, and left some presents if you know what I mean. I need some input, what's the best way to clean it up, anything in particular? All the covers were on, so I don't think they got inside, but haven't pulled the cover off yet. Any ideas? Thanks, Jed No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.33/2267 - Release Date: 07/27/09 17:59:00
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Getting mice out of a repeater sight
i'm in a controled environment. _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Ryan Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 4:25 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Getting mice out of a repeater sight Leave them a note, tell them it's a CLOSED repeater system. ( Sorry, I couldn't resist..) Are you in a cold climate area or is the repeater in a WARMER area than the outside ambient air temp? - M From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jed Barton Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 4:19 PM To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Getting mice out of a repeater sight Hey guys, I am sure many of you have been through this before. The evil mice decided to waunder in to my repeater sight. Up until now they avoided my repeater, but when I went up there, I was less than pleased. They didn't chew any wires thank god, but they walked across the top of the icom rp4020, and left some presents if you know what I mean. I need some input, what's the best way to clean it up, anything in particular? All the covers were on, so I don't think they got inside, but haven't pulled the cover off yet. Any ideas? Thanks, Jed __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4283 (20090727) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset. http://www.eset.com com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4283 (20090727) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4283 (20090727) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset. http://www.eset.com com
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Getting mice out of a repeater sight
70% Isopropanol Alcohal is my favorite cleaner. Make sure all power is off to the radio, and give it a few minutes to evaporate before restoring power. 73, KD6AAJ --- On Tue, 7/28/09, Michael Ryan mryan...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: From: Michael Ryan mryan...@tampabay.rr.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Getting mice out of a repeater sight To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, July 28, 2009, 1:25 PM Leave them a note, tell them it’s a CLOSED repeater system. ( Sorry, I couldn’t resist..) Are you in a cold climate area or is the repeater in a WARMER area than the outside ambient air temp? - M From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jed Barton Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 4:19 PM To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Getting mice out of a repeater sight Hey guys, I am sure many of you have been through this before. The evil mice decided to waunder in to my repeater sight. Up until now they avoided my repeater, but when I went up there, I was less than pleased. They didn't chew any wires thank god, but they walked across the top of the icom rp4020, and left some presents if you know what I mean. I need some input, what's the best way to clean it up, anything in particular? All the covers were on, so I don't think they got inside, but haven't pulled the cover off yet. Any ideas? Thanks, Jed __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4283 (20090727) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4283 (20090727) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4283 (20090727) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Getting mice out of a repeater sight
Try a liberal application of Moth Balls and D-Con. Both available at most super markets and home stores like Home Depot. Place at various locations around the site interior. They Moth Balls can be placed inside and around the equipment cabinets. The D-Con on the floor near or in interior corners and near interior openings used for entry/exit by the mice. Check and replace perodically as the Moth Balls evaporate over time and the mice eat tihe D-Con then go off looking for water and die. N3DAB -- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Jed Barton j...@... wrote: Hey guys, I am sure many of you have been through this before. The evil mice decided to waunder in to my repeater sight. Up until now they avoided my repeater, but when I went up there, I was less than pleased. They didn't chew any wires thank god, but they walked across the top of the icom rp4020, and left some presents if you know what I mean. I need some input, what's the best way to clean it up, anything in particular? All the covers were on, so I don't think they got inside, but haven't pulled the cover off yet. Any ideas? Thanks, Jed
[Repeater-Builder] Too stupid to run Google??
I *know* this is out there somewhere, but apparently I am WAYYY to stupid to run google right now. I have a TM-331 I am making in to a single frequency remote base. Where can I find a COR in this radio? I see TONS of references to using an RBI-1, but I am only using ONE channel. Apparently I have been out in the sun too long or something. Maybe Google is having trouble reading my mind... Yea, That's it!! Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Getting mice out of a repeater sight
What no ants! Tony, K3WX On Jul 28, 2009, at 4:19 PM, Jed Barton wrote: Hey guys, I am sure many of you have been through this before. The evil mice decided to waunder in to my repeater sight. Up until now they avoided my repeater, but when I went up there, I was less than pleased. They didn't chew any wires thank god, but they walked across the top of the icom rp4020, and left some presents if you know what I mean. I need some input, what's the best way to clean it up, anything in particular? All the covers were on, so I don't think they got inside, but haven't pulled the cover off yet. Any ideas? Thanks, Jed Yahoo! Groups Links
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Getting mice out of a repeater sight
Hi Jed, If you have mice, you are not in a controller environment. The mice have taken control. From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jed Barton Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 2:31 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Getting mice out of a repeater sight i'm in a controled environment. _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Ryan Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 4:25 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Getting mice out of a repeater sight Leave them a note, tell them it's a CLOSED repeater system. ( Sorry, I couldn't resist..) Are you in a cold climate area or is the repeater in a WARMER area than the outside ambient air temp? - M From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jed Barton Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 4:19 PM To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Getting mice out of a repeater sight Hey guys, I am sure many of you have been through this before. The evil mice decided to waunder in to my repeater sight. Up until now they avoided my repeater, but when I went up there, I was less than pleased. They didn't chew any wires thank god, but they walked across the top of the icom rp4020, and left some presents if you know what I mean. I need some input, what's the best way to clean it up, anything in particular? All the covers were on, so I don't think they got inside, but haven't pulled the cover off yet. Any ideas? Thanks, Jed __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4283 (20090727) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4283 (20090727) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4283 (20090727) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.33/2267 - Release Date: 07/27/09 17:59:00
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Getting mice out of a repeater sight
At one broadcast transmitter site I serviced I reached down into the cable trough and one of the cables slithered away. Mike Mullarkey wrote: Hi Jed, If you have mice, you are not in a controller environment. The mice have taken control.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Getting mice out of a repeater sight
If we had been talking about ants, I would suggest a liberal amount of chalk, or even cornstarch/baby powder, however we are talking about much larger critters. I prefer snakes over mice. Snakes do a good job of eating mice as well. On a serious note though, be sure to were even a simple dust mask and gloves. Though the gloves arent as crucial the mask is. rat/mouse turds are a breathing hazard. If you use the alcohol method be sure to be aware that some display screens and lettering may not react well with it. some screens become a bit foggy and lettering can simply wipe away. I would suggest popping the cover though on rig and at least blowing out the turds from there. I always use just a hot water and mild cleaner such as Zepp Brand Orange, diluted down otherwise it will leave a nasty film on everything. Windex also works well on display screens and other surfaces besides just glass. ( something I learned when owned a detail clean company) As for the mice problem itself, if you know where they are getting in at, be sure to offer a strong and plentiful dose of D-Con, or other similar product. I use steel wool and shove it into the openings of all cable runs, as well as pea gravel if the hole is big enough. Good luck, the alternative is a cheap bottle of whiskey, a shotgun, and nothing but a night to waste! Ok so whickey and guns probably dont mix well, but the mice dont know that! Chris Kf6nfw On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Mike Mullarkey k7...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Jed, If you have mice, you are not in a controller environment. The mice have taken control. *From:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto: repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Jed Barton *Sent:* Tuesday, July 28, 2009 2:31 PM *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* RE: [Repeater-Builder] Getting mice out of a repeater sight i'm in a controled environment. -- *From:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto: repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Michael Ryan *Sent:* Tuesday, July 28, 2009 4:25 PM *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* RE: [Repeater-Builder] Getting mice out of a repeater sight Leave them a note, tell them it’s a CLOSED repeater system. ( Sorry, I couldn’t resist..) Are you in a cold climate area or is the repeater in a WARMER area than the outside ambient air temp? - M *From:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto: repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Jed Barton *Sent:* Tuesday, July 28, 2009 4:19 PM *To:* repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* [Repeater-Builder] Getting mice out of a repeater sight Hey guys, I am sure many of you have been through this before. The evil mice decided to waunder in to my repeater sight. Up until now they avoided my repeater, but when I went up there, I was less than pleased. They didn't chew any wires thank god, but they walked across the top of the icom rp4020, and left some presents if you know what I mean. I need some input, what's the best way to clean it up, anything in particular? All the covers were on, so I don't think they got inside, but haven't pulled the cover off yet. Any ideas? Thanks, Jed __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4283 (20090727) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4283 (20090727) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4283 (20090727) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.33/2267 - Release Date: 07/27/09 17:59:00
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Getting mice out of a repeater sight
Don't forget to wear a mask, mice droppings can carry disease. We used to have problems with mice inside customers computer systems, we did PM's every 6 months and would spray the inside of all the panels with WD-40 and it kept them out of the inside of the systems. If any has a problem with porcupines, email me off list, I have a cure for them too! Eric. kd6aaj wrote: 70% Isopropanol Alcohal is my favorite cleaner. Make sure all power is off to the radio, and give it a few minutes to evaporate before restoring power. 73, KD6AAJ --- On Tue, 7/28/09, Michael Ryan mryan...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: From: Michael Ryan mryan...@tampabay.rr.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Getting mice out of a repeater sight To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, July 28, 2009, 1:25 PM Leave them a note, tell them it’s a CLOSED repeater system. ( Sorry, I couldn’t resist..) Are you in a cold climate area or is the repeater in a WARMER area than the outside ambient air temp? - M From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jed Barton Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 4:19 PM To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Getting mice out of a repeater sight Hey guys, I am sure many of you have been through this before. The evil mice decided to waunder in to my repeater sight. Up until now they avoided my repeater, but when I went up there, I was less than pleased. They didn't chew any wires thank god, but they walked across the top of the icom rp4020, and left some presents if you know what I mean. I need some input, what's the best way to clean it up, anything in particular? All the covers were on, so I don't think they got inside, but haven't pulled the cover off yet. Any ideas? Thanks, Jed __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4283 (20090727) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com http://www.eset.com/ __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4283 (20090727) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4283 (20090727) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com http://www.eset.com/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Getting mice out of a repeater sight
once cleaned ( only one way to do that) you need noise and lots of it as mice hate the well tuned noise. To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com From: j...@jedbarton.com Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:19:16 -0400 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Getting mice out of a repeater sight Hey guys, I am sure many of you have been through this before. The evil mice decided to waunder in to my repeater sight. Up until now they avoided my repeater, but when I went up there, I was less than pleased. They didn't chew any wires thank god, but they walked across the top of the icom rp4020, and left some presents if you know what I mean. I need some input, what's the best way to clean it up, anything in particular? All the covers were on, so I don't think they got inside, but haven't pulled the cover off yet. Any ideas? Thanks, Jed _ Need a new model in your life? Sell your car fast. http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldwide%2Ecom%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801459%2Fpi%5F1004813%2Fai%5F866383_t=758314219_r=carpoint_tagline_m=EXT
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Getting mice out of a repeater sight
Well sure. WD-40 works on anything that sticks or squeaks. Chuck - Original Message - From: Eric M. To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 5:17 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Getting mice out of a repeater sight We used to have problems with mice inside customers computer systems, we did PM's every 6 months and would spray the inside of all the panels with WD-40 and it kept them out of the inside of the systems.
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Getting mice out of a repeater sight
Including bad joints on cold mornings To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com From: wb2...@roadrunner.com Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:50:53 -0400 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Getting mice out of a repeater sight Well sure. WD-40 works on anything that sticks or squeaks. Chuck - Original Message - From: Eric M. To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 5:17 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Getting mice out of a repeater sight We used to have problems with mice inside customers computer systems, we did PM's every 6 months and would spray the inside of all the panels with WD-40 and it kept them out of the inside of the systems. _ Use Windows Live Messenger from your Hotmail inbox Web IM has arrived! http://windowslive.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=823454
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Getting mice out of a repeater sight
Use a bleach/water solution. wear Tyvek coveralls, respirator,face shield and rubber gloves. Look up Hanta virus. Mice carry it and it is bad news. Bring lots of disposable rags or paper towels and double plastic bag the waste. Bleach is far better at killing viruses than alcohol. Bill KB1MGH --- On Tue, 7/28/09, Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote: From: Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Getting mice out of a repeater sight To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, July 28, 2009, 3:19 PM Hey guys, I am sure many of you have been through this before. The evil mice decided to waunder in to my repeater sight. Up until now they avoided my repeater, but when I went up there, I was less than pleased. They didn't chew any wires thank god, but they walked across the top of the icom rp4020, and left some presents if you know what I mean. I need some input, what's the best way to clean it up, anything in particular? All the covers were on, so I don't think they got inside, but haven't pulled the cover off yet. Any ideas? Thanks, Jed Yahoo! Groups Links
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Getting mice out of a repeater sight
Get pet snakes to live at the repeater! At the site out west I had 6 meter stuff in, the owner spread poison bait outside, but that was mostly to get ride of the ground squirrels that burrowed around the footings. It did keep the mice away too. -Kevin -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jed Barton Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 4:19 PM To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Getting mice out of a repeater sight Hey guys, I am sure many of you have been through this before. The evil mice decided to waunder in to my repeater sight. Up until now they avoided my repeater, but when I went up there, I was less than pleased. They didn't chew any wires thank god, but they walked across the top of the icom rp4020, and left some presents if you know what I mean. I need some input, what's the best way to clean it up, anything in particular? All the covers were on, so I don't think they got inside, but haven't pulled the cover off yet. Any ideas? Thanks, Jed Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Getting mice out of a repeater sight
Use a mix of bleach and water (10% bleach) to clean all surfaces with including any land mines left by the mice. I would also spray the floor area around your radio so its wet, let it dry and then sweep it. I would use some type of decon or the sticky traps and put moth balls in the radio and area around it. I would also look for the places they are getting in and cover them with some type of metal or stuff steel wool into small openings. And remember rubber gloves and some type of breathing respirator when cleaning. In a message dated 7/28/2009 2:21:41 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, j...@jedbarton.com writes: Hey guys, I am sure many of you have been through this before. The evil mice decided to waunder in to my repeater sight. Up until now they avoided my repeater, but when I went up there, I was less than pleased. They didn't chew any wires thank god, but they walked across the top of the icom rp4020, and left some presents if you know what I mean. I need some input, what's the best way to clean it up, anything in particular? All the covers were on, so I don't think they got inside, but haven't pulled the cover off yet. Any ideas? Thanks, Jed **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222377107x1201454434/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072hmpgID=115bcd =JulystepsfooterNO115)
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Getting mice out of a repeater sight
Most of the suggestions are very good , now the last site we had to seal couldnt be because of the location so we mixed a topical powder ( supplied in mice food blocks and ground) mixed with the heavy gravel meant to seal firewalls around cable runs and poured it into the cavities then used silicon to hold it in place where required , then made a simple ultrasonics transducer operational and the constant sound made sure there was no more trouble ( I can't hear it though) , Cleaning the gear was simple as a strip and wash with an ammpnia based cleaner and hospital grade disenfective ( wear hazmed filters in your mask ) resulted in a perfectly clean suraface and gear , Not long to do and sure makes it smell purdy :) To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com From: osborne...@aol.com Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 18:55:31 -0400 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Getting mice out of a repeater sight Use a mix of bleach and water (10% bleach) to clean all surfaces with including any land mines left by the mice. I would also spray the floor area around your radio so its wet, let it dry and then sweep it. I would use some type of decon or the sticky traps and put moth balls in the radio and area around it. I would also look for the places they are getting in and cover them with some type of metal or stuff steel wool into small openings. And remember rubber gloves and some type of breathing respirator when cleaning. In a message dated 7/28/2009 2:21:41 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, j...@jedbarton.com writes: Hey guys, I am sure many of you have been through this before. The evil mice decided to waunder in to my repeater sight. Up until now they avoided my repeater, but when I went up there, I was less than pleased. They didn't chew any wires thank god, but they walked across the top of the icom rp4020, and left some presents if you know what I mean. I need some input, what's the best way to clean it up, anything in particular? All the covers were on, so I don't think they got inside, but haven't pulled the cover off yet. Any ideas? Thanks, Jed _ Looking for a place to rent, share or buy this winter? Find your next place with Ninemsn property http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fninemsn%2Edomain%2Ecom%2Eau%2F%3Fs%5Fcid%3DFDMedia%3ANineMSN%5FHotmail%5FTagline_t=774152450_r=Domain_tagline_m=EXT
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Getting mice out of a repeater sight
Yes, by all means DO NOT breathe the dust! I can't remember the name of the disease, but it can be VERY nasty! Wear a dust mask while cleaning. Decon does work well, but then you'll have a bunch of dead mice to clean out - and if you're not there on a regular basis they will stink. Mark - N9WYS _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of kd6aaj 70% Isopropanol Alcohal is my favorite cleaner. Make sure all power is off to the radio, and give it a few minutes to evaporate before restoring power. 73, KD6AAJ --- On Tue, 7/28/09, Michael Ryan mryan...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jed Barton Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 4:19 PM To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Getting mice out of a repeater sight Hey guys, I am sure many of you have been through this before. The evil mice decided to waunder in to my repeater sight. Up until now they avoided my repeater, but when I went up there, I was less than pleased. They didn't chew any wires thank god, but they walked across the top of the icom rp4020, and left some presents if you know what I mean. I need some input, what's the best way to clean it up, anything in particular? All the covers were on, so I don't think they got inside, but haven't pulled the cover off yet. Any ideas? Thanks, Jed No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.34/2268 - Release Date: 07/28/09 06:00:00
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Too stupid to run Google??
You may not be seeing the answer you want to see. Pulling from old memory cells, I think the RBI-1 pulls the COR from a serial data stream connected through the Microphone Jack. I don't believe there is a graceful way of pulling the data off a pin somewhere. You may have to do surgery on the guts of the radio to pull out a hi/lo indication like you want. Bummer huh! Bill W6CBS _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Zimmerman Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 1:39 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Too stupid to run Google?? I *know* this is out there somewhere, but apparently I am WAYYY to stupid to run google right now. I have a TM-331 I am making in to a single frequency remote base. Where can I find a COR in this radio? I see TONS of references to using an RBI-1, but I am only using ONE channel. Apparently I have been out in the sun too long or something. Maybe Google is having trouble reading my mind... Yea, That's it!! Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair Q202 duplexers (frankenstein series)
Eric, I was referring to commercial inline shorted-stub arrestors, such as those made Huber+Suhner, that typically are intended for use at 800 MHz and higher frequencies. I did not mean to imply that home-made quarter-wave stubs cannot be used. In fact, instructions for fabricating just such a device are found here: www.repeater-builder.com/ge/datafile-bulletin/df-10002-01.pdf 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Grabowski Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 10:30 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair Q202 duplexers (frankenstein series) Eric, Why is a quarter-wave shorted stub impractical at 2m? I have been told that a quarter-wave shorted stub would serve two purposes: a) provide a dc path to ground for static caused by precip or wind, and also b) substantially reduce the strength of a transmitter's second harmonic. 73 and aloha, Eric KH6CQ --- On Mon, 7/27/09, Eric Lemmon wb6...@verizon.net wrote: From: Eric Lemmon wb6...@verizon.net Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair Q202 duplexers (frankenstein series) To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, July 27, 2009, 4:51 PM Norm, A Polyphaser does not put a DC ground on the center conductor of the feedline- nor does any other inline arrestor of any brand, except a quarter-wave shorted stub. But that is impractical at 2m. My point was simply that a single bandpass cavity on either the TX or the RX side, between the duplexer and the antenna tee, will put a DC ground on the feedline at the transmitter end. Most antennas are DC grounded, but a lot can happen to that feedline between the antenna and the duplexer. One 2m repeater I have on a hilltop suffered a lot from wind-caused static discharges (aka triboelectric charging) until I put a single bandpass cavity on the receive side. My intent was to prevent desense from the adjacent FM broadcast station, but the static elimination was a bonus. Regarding the determination of high pass versus low pass, this is usually determined by the design of the duplexer. Some designs are symmetrical, while others are asymmetrical. In most cases, the loop coupling will be different between the high side and the low side, so it is convenient to simply follow the manufacturer' s settings, and their tuning instructions. In the case of the Sinclair Q202-G, the loop assemblies are all identical, and the notch tuning capacitors are the same as well, regardless of which pass side they're on. You're correct about bandpass duplexers being unsuitable for the 600 kHz split at 2m. However, I have a 8 bandpass duplexer on a commercial repeater that is using a 5.26 MHz split on VHF, and it works perfectly. I specified it because of the antenna being the high point on the tower, and I wanted DC ground at the duplexer for repeater protection. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY snip all following
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair Q202 duplexers (frankenstein series)
But the GE file shows how to make a quarter-wave open-stub filter, not a shorted one. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Eric Lemmon wb6...@verizon.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 9:06 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair Q202 duplexers (frankenstein series) Eric, I was referring to commercial inline shorted-stub arrestors, such as those made Huber+Suhner, that typically are intended for use at 800 MHz and higher frequencies. I did not mean to imply that home-made quarter-wave stubs cannot be used. In fact, instructions for fabricating just such a device are found here: www.repeater-builder.com/ge/datafile-bulletin/df-10002-01.pdf 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Grabowski Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 10:30 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair Q202 duplexers (frankenstein series) Eric, Why is a quarter-wave shorted stub impractical at 2m? I have been told that a quarter-wave shorted stub would serve two purposes: a) provide a dc path to ground for static caused by precip or wind, and also b) substantially reduce the strength of a transmitter's second harmonic. 73 and aloha, Eric KH6CQ --- On Mon, 7/27/09, Eric Lemmon wb6...@verizon.net wrote: From: Eric Lemmon wb6...@verizon.net Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair Q202 duplexers (frankenstein series) To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, July 27, 2009, 4:51 PM Norm, A Polyphaser does not put a DC ground on the center conductor of the feedline- nor does any other inline arrestor of any brand, except a quarter-wave shorted stub. But that is impractical at 2m. My point was simply that a single bandpass cavity on either the TX or the RX side, between the duplexer and the antenna tee, will put a DC ground on the feedline at the transmitter end. Most antennas are DC grounded, but a lot can happen to that feedline between the antenna and the duplexer. One 2m repeater I have on a hilltop suffered a lot from wind-caused static discharges (aka triboelectric charging) until I put a single bandpass cavity on the receive side. My intent was to prevent desense from the adjacent FM broadcast station, but the static elimination was a bonus. Regarding the determination of high pass versus low pass, this is usually determined by the design of the duplexer. Some designs are symmetrical, while others are asymmetrical. In most cases, the loop coupling will be different between the high side and the low side, so it is convenient to simply follow the manufacturer' s settings, and their tuning instructions. In the case of the Sinclair Q202-G, the loop assemblies are all identical, and the notch tuning capacitors are the same as well, regardless of which pass side they're on. You're correct about bandpass duplexers being unsuitable for the 600 kHz split at 2m. However, I have a 8 bandpass duplexer on a commercial repeater that is using a 5.26 MHz split on VHF, and it works perfectly. I specified it because of the antenna being the high point on the tower, and I wanted DC ground at the duplexer for repeater protection. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY snip all following Yahoo! Groups Links
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair Q202 duplexers (frankenstein series)
Chuck, Perhaps we're splitting hairs, because the text in that bulletin states To the spurious, the stub looks like a short... I agree that my choice of words leaves unclear the difference between looks like a short and is a short. Is it too late to invoke that handy disclaimer of vagueness, YMMV? -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Kelsey Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 6:25 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair Q202 duplexers (frankenstein series) But the GE file shows how to make a quarter-wave open-stub filter, not a shorted one. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Eric Lemmon wb6...@verizon.net mailto:wb6fly%40verizon.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 9:06 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair Q202 duplexers (frankenstein series) Eric, I was referring to commercial inline shorted-stub arrestors, such as those made Huber+Suhner, that typically are intended for use at 800 MHz and higher frequencies. I did not mean to imply that home-made quarter-wave stubs cannot be used. In fact, instructions for fabricating just such a device are found here: www.repeater-builder.com/ge/datafile-bulletin/df-10002-01.pdf 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Eric Grabowski Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 10:30 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair Q202 duplexers (frankenstein series) Eric, Why is a quarter-wave shorted stub impractical at 2m? I have been told that a quarter-wave shorted stub would serve two purposes: a) provide a dc path to ground for static caused by precip or wind, and also b) substantially reduce the strength of a transmitter's second harmonic. 73 and aloha, Eric KH6CQ --- On Mon, 7/27/09, Eric Lemmon wb6...@verizon.net mailto:wb6fly%40verizon.net wrote: From: Eric Lemmon wb6...@verizon.net mailto:wb6fly%40verizon.net Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair Q202 duplexers (frankenstein series) To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, July 27, 2009, 4:51 PM Norm, A Polyphaser does not put a DC ground on the center conductor of the feedline- nor does any other inline arrestor of any brand, except a quarter-wave shorted stub. But that is impractical at 2m. My point was simply that a single bandpass cavity on either the TX or the RX side, between the duplexer and the antenna tee, will put a DC ground on the feedline at the transmitter end. Most antennas are DC grounded, but a lot can happen to that feedline between the antenna and the duplexer. One 2m repeater I have on a hilltop suffered a lot from wind-caused static discharges (aka triboelectric charging) until I put a single bandpass cavity on the receive side. My intent was to prevent desense from the adjacent FM broadcast station, but the static elimination was a bonus. Regarding the determination of high pass versus low pass, this is usually determined by the design of the duplexer. Some designs are symmetrical, while others are asymmetrical. In most cases, the loop coupling will be different between the high side and the low side, so it is convenient to simply follow the manufacturer' s settings, and their tuning instructions. In the case of the Sinclair Q202-G, the loop assemblies are all identical, and the notch tuning capacitors are the same as well, regardless of which pass side they're on. You're correct about bandpass duplexers being unsuitable for the 600 kHz split at 2m. However, I have a 8 bandpass duplexer on a commercial repeater that is using a 5.26 MHz split on VHF, and it works perfectly. I specified it because of the antenna being the high point on the tower, and I wanted DC ground at the duplexer for repeater protection. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY snip all following Yahoo! Groups Links
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Too stupid to run Google??
Scott, You can probably find the answer in the Kenwood service manual B51-3826-00. It's available from www.wirelessrepairsandbatteries.com for about $17. I hope you recover soon... 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Zimmerman Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 1:39 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Too stupid to run Google?? I *know* this is out there somewhere, but apparently I am WAYYY to stupid to run google right now. I have a TM-331 I am making in to a single frequency remote base. Where can I find a COR in this radio? I see TONS of references to using an RBI-1, but I am only using ONE channel. Apparently I have been out in the sun too long or something. Maybe Google is having trouble reading my mind... Yea, That's it!! Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Talking clock has failed on our RC-85 V5.2 FW.
Yes there is an ACC group and there is a lot of info on the clock in the archives. see below: Know an ACC owners not on this list? Please let them know about it!BR Email commands: Subscribe: acc-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Unsubscribe: Mailto:acc-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com List owner: Mailto:acc-ow...@yahoogroups.com If the clock has rolled beyond the year 2000 and disabled the v5.2 enhancements you will loose the clock and the female voice. If the female voice still works then you probably have a specific clock issue. If you have lost the female voice as well you can try entering the secret code to reenable the functions. The best thing for the clock on an RC-85 is to subtract 28 years from the current year and set that for the date. 28 years will allow the calendar leap years and day of the week to track correctly while avoiding the Y2K bug. Before the end of the year 2027 you will need to set the clock back to the year 1971 again to keep it going another 28 years. John Lock kf0m at arrl.net -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of wa6mha_glen Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 12:03 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Talking clock has failed on our RC-85 V5.2 FW. I've searched the forum and the internet for info on the talking clock option on our rc-85 w/ v 5.2 firmware but found nothing so far. Our rc-85 is still in use at 4000 ft so I'm collecting data before we visit the site. Our manual and upgrade data was not been kept up to date over the last 20+ years so I'm starting from scratch. The paperwork I do have shows an upgrade to v5.2 firmware but no date. It mentions 2 IC's were installed. One I'm sure was a new EPROM and the other mentions a battery backed up clock chip if I read it right. Is it possible the Y2K issue kicked in, or that the battery backup on the clock chip has failed? Everything I can find about the clock is how to add a RS talking Clock, not much about the onboard option? We will go to the site and document the current chipset on our rc-85 when time permits. It can be sent out for repairs but we don't have a spare controller so the machine would be down during that time, something we're trying to avoid. I did get the feeling that this may be a warning sign that the EPROM's may be failing and this is only the start. A newer replacement may be the way to go as a last resort! Thank you for any help you can give us. Are there any groups dedicated to ACC Controllers? Glen wa6mha Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair Q202 duplexers (frankenstein series)
I know I'm not trying to split hairs, but I believe the concern was to actually use a DC shorted stub to help keep transmission line surges shunted. You'd suggested a bandpass can, which works. Anyway, that's why I jumped in. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Eric Lemmon wb6...@verizon.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 9:41 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair Q202 duplexers (frankenstein series) Chuck, Perhaps we're splitting hairs, because the text in that bulletin states To the spurious, the stub looks like a short... I agree that my choice of words leaves unclear the difference between looks like a short and is a short. Is it too late to invoke that handy disclaimer of vagueness, YMMV?
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Closed Repeaters
Or maybe one of the big wideband AM signals, 25 kcs. Jim K7OET From: Adam techiea...@yahoo.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 4:48:38 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Closed Repeaters From: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Alan Rabin Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 1:57 PM To: Repeater-Builder Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Closed Repeaters Please excuse Me. I feel compelled to make this one comment. Consider for a moment the fact that when one employs a repeater, they are effectively sitting on two Amateur frequencies within a given geographic area. If I were to claim two Amateur frequencies let's say for instance on the HF band, and tell others they cannot use them what would most of us say? I for one would say you were working split. 73! -Adam WJ4X
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Too stupid to run Google??
At 7/28/2009 13:38, you wrote: I *know* this is out there somewhere, but apparently I am WAYYY to stupid to run google right now. I have a TM-331 I am making in to a single frequency remote base. Where can I find a COR in this radio? Buried deep inside. The RBI-1 gets COS status info from the serial data stream coming from the TM-331. If you want COS without the RBI-1 you'll need to bring it out. I once found the internal COS logic line in the schematic but didn't bother documenting because I decided to go the RBI-1 route instead. If you need help finding it I can probably dig up the schematics try to find it again. I see TONS of references to using an RBI-1, but I am only using ONE channel. Apparently I have been out in the sun too long or something. Maybe Google is having trouble reading my mind... Yea, That's it!! I wouldn't be surprised if it's not googleable since few apparently go the direct COS route with this radio. Bob NO6B
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Getting mice out of a repeater sight
The only reason I suggest alcohol, is it is not corrosive to the electronics. O course, if you remove the covers and use bleach, that is ine, as long as you rinse them off. I like to use bleach for everything in my house. And Lysol wipes, or the Kirkland branded wipes from Costco. 73!
[Repeater-Builder] Re: ICE lightning protectors
Chuck, Thanks for the info Mike KC8FWD
[Repeater-Builder] WA4KXV, SK
Longtime Southeastern Repeater Assoc. Frequency Coordinator, Wally Burkett, W4KXV (ex. WA4KXV) of Virginia Beach, Va., passed away at age 69 . Some of you may have dealt with him in coordination procedures, he'd been around a while. 73 Chris KC4CMR
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Getting mice out of a repeater sight
Look the other way and the mice will be out of your sight. Did you possibly mean your repeater site?? 73 Glenn WB4UIV At 04:19 PM 7/28/2009, you wrote: Hey guys, I am sure many of you have been through this before. The evil mice decided to waunder in to my repeater sight. Up until now they avoided my repeater, but when I went up there, I was less than pleased. They didn't chew any wires thank god, but they walked across the top of the icom rp4020, and left some presents if you know what I mean. I need some input, what's the best way to clean it up, anything in particular? All the covers were on, so I don't think they got inside, but haven't pulled the cover off yet. Any ideas? Thanks, Jed Yahoo! Groups Links
