[Repeater-Builder] RE: Wavetek 3000

[byron]

Hi Wesley

  I have had some success doing a wholesale replacement of all the small
Tantalum Capacitors (values like between 1-100 uF) in the module. And some
times in some in other modules as they are part of the loop.

Replacement capacitors used to be available at Radio Shack but I found them
on eBay for cheap.

It's been working like a charm since them. But with my luck after saying
that it will hear about the complement and decide it needs more attention.

Byron
NJ7J





Wavetek 3000
Posted by: "bazelljr" wesley...@verizon.net bazelljr
Date: Fri Oct 16, 2009 10:12 am ((PDT))

Well, it happens. just turned on my wavetek 3000 Station monitor yesterday &
found it had gone South.
Everything works except does not send or receive RF. no doubt its in the
RF module.Yes it has Modules. Anyone have this Problem? Also Where cpould I
get it Repaired without Spending a Fortune?

Wesley AB8KD

[Repeater-Builder] Re: GE Lookout Repeater related info needed.

[lsasmazel]

Hey Butch,

Please try to send my hotmail account  lsasma...@hotmail.com. Really 
appreciated for the info. I think one other member has the same unit from same 
seller he may also need the same pdf.

Thanks again,
Levent – WW2L


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Butch Kanvick  wrote:
>
> 
> Hello Levent.
> 
>  
> 
> I tried to send you an email direct but comcast would not let it through.
> 
> You will need to send the Sicoms to ICM and have them install the xtal and 
> temperature compensate it.
> 
> Then all you need is the tuning instructions to re-tune it to the ham band.
> 
> If you can stay near 148 it would be the esaiest for you to tune it.
> 
> I might have a pdf of the Loockout Manual.
> 
> What is a good email address and I can forward you the PDF.
> 
>  
> 
> Butch, KE7FEL/r
>  
> 
> 
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> From: lsasma...@...
> Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 22:18:03 +
> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GE Lookout Repeater related info needed.
> 
>   
> 
> 
> 
> First position is Local on the fist mode selector. My understanding from all 
> internet research is these kinds of repeaters are used on the forest 
> lookouts. It can be used as low power comm unit or low power repeater. I 
> think standby current is around the 70 ma. If I can find at least some info 
> on the PE High band units I think I can modify the ICOM. And see if I can 
> convert to 2 meters. Every body says the same think it is not easy to work on 
> the PE units and I can see why however I really don't want this nice piece of 
> equipment goes to garbage. I think it is worth to give a try. But 100% agree 
> that without proper documentation it will be impossible. 
> 
> Levent
> WW2L
> 
> --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Milt"  wrote:
> >
> > In the second picture in the folder there is a 3 position switch to the 
> > left 
> > of the volume control. The center position is marked RPTR and another 
> > position seems to be marked MON. The remaining position marking cannot be 
> > read. What is the marking?
> > 
> > The term Lookout Repeater is unusual; I recall seeing a Motorola radio 
> > manual marked as being a lookout repeater. The unit was, IIRC, comprised of 
> > modules from the Business Dispatcher. I believe that the functionality of 
> > the unit is unique to a specific type of operation. The use of low power 
> > modules suggests that these units were part of a larger system and possibly 
> > were used as some form of range extenders.
> > 
> > Now the bad news; the PE series modules used in this radio are not the 
> > easiest to work on. It has been a long time since I dealt with any of the 
> > PE/PY radios but IIRC the frequency sensitive componets were not always on 
> > the circuit board. Moving one of these units from 166 to 146 will involve a 
> > large amount of work. As always if one wishes to start on such an 
> > adventure, manuals are a must along with a knowledge of if and how the unit 
> > functions on the existing frequencies.
> > 
> > Milt
> > N3LTQ
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "lsasmazel" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 8:19 PM
> > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GE Lookout Repeater related info needed.
> > 
> > 
> > This unit come from Alaska regarding to seller it sat in the boxes and wait 
> > to get deployed. But it never happened.
> > 
> > Frequencies are ;
> > 
> > TX : 166.850 Mhz, , 166.850 Mhz
> > RX: 164.425 Mhz, 164.425 Mhz
> > 
> > I just figured out that this is one frequency unit :)
> > 
> > Levent - WW2L
> > 
> > 
> > --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Eric Lemmon"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Levent,
> > >
> > > The pictures do lend credence to the "special part" theory. Please advise
> > > what the two receive and two transmit frequencies are. Do you have any 
> > > idea
> > > what company or agency owned this device? It's a long shot, but it is
> > > always (well, sometimes) possible to track down the previous owner, locate
> > > the radio shop that maintained it, and possibly identify the documents you
> > > need- if they won't just hand them over. Knowing the frequencies used is 
> > > a
> > > giant first step in that process.
> > >
> > > 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> > > [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of lsasmazel
> > > Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 4:49 PM
> > > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GE Lookout Repeater related info needed.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Sorry I forget the mention I put the picture under GE Lookup Repeater
> > > folder. There ais one more Number I find it is on the back of the unit and
> > > it is PL19D424600G4 this is on the back of the box.
> > >
> > > 73
> > > Levent - WW2L
> > >
> > > --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> > >  , "Eric Lemmon" 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Levent,
> > > >

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Wavetek 3000

[Wesley Bazell]

Thanks, but I have the Manual.Went into it more deeply today.
The Problem. I do not have an extender board to go into the A1 mixer board. & 
make Scope measurements. did find 2 questionable solder joints, which I 
soldered(shaking hands), but that did not repair it.Still looking & hoping.

Wesley- Original Message - 
  From: darylynn d 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 9:25 PM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Wavetek 3000


This is a bit off topic, But I have an extra Service Manual for the 3000 
SSI Wavetech. The plastic Binder is flakey, but the pages are good. Please 
leave msg at kb5...@yahoo.com if you have interest. 

  --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Wesley Bazell"  
wrote:
  >
  > 
  > Good Question Joe
  > 
  > Wesley
  > - Original Message - 
  > From: "Joe" 
  > To: 
  > Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 5:56 PM
  > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wavetek 3000
  > 
  > 
  > > Instead of soldering the damaged IC to the board, I wonder if you could 
  > > buy headers that plug into the IC board socket and solder the IC to the 
  > > header?
  > > 
  > > Joe
  > > 
  > > 
  > > DCFluX wrote:
  > >>
  > >>
  > >> As I undersstand it wavetek put some kinda anti oxidizing goo on the 
  > >> IC pins. But it had the side effect of disolving the IC pins after 
  > >> quite some time. So the solusion was to replace the ICs or trying to 
  > >> solder the IC to the board to make good contact with the pins.
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > > Yahoo! Groups Links
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > >
  >



  

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Wavetek 3000

[darylynn d]

This is a bit off topic, But I have an extra Service Manual for the 3000 SSI 
Wavetech. The plastic Binder is flakey, but the pages are good. Please leave 
msg at kb5...@yahoo.com if you have interest. 

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Wesley Bazell"  wrote:
>
> 
> Good Question Joe
> 
> Wesley
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Joe" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 5:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wavetek 3000
> 
> 
> > Instead of soldering the damaged IC to the board, I wonder if you could 
> > buy headers that plug into the IC board socket and solder the IC to the 
> > header?
> > 
> > Joe
> > 
> > 
> > DCFluX wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> As I undersstand it wavetek put some kinda anti oxidizing goo on the 
> >> IC pins. But it had the side effect of disolving the IC pins after 
> >> quite some time. So the solusion was to replace the ICs or trying to 
> >> solder the IC to the board to make good contact with the pins.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >
>

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Cushman CE-5

[Henry Wingate]

The BAMA Archive has a manual in PDF (24MB !).

Mike WA6ILQ wrote:
> Anybody have any service info on a CE-5 ?
>
> One followed me home, and it has several problems.
>
> first,  the output level varies with frequency,
> second, it's off frequency,
> third, a bunch of dial lights are out (unless there are reasons not
> to, time for some white LEDs)
>
> Mike WA6ILQ
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> 
>
>
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: kendecom repeaters on 220

[Mike Besemer (WM4B)]

That's 'continuous, 90% duty cycle'!

 

Mike

WM4B

 

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Plack
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 4:25 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: kendecom repeaters on 220

 

  

On the transmitter page, ACS says, "all our products are rated for
continuous commercial duty."

 

Then, a little lower, "90% DUTY CYCLE"

 

Do they even know?

 

73,

Paul, AE4KR

 

- Original Message - 

From: skipp025   

To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 9:37 AM

Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: kendecom repeaters on 220

 

  


I gotta laugh at their web pages a bit... 

http://www.advcommsys.com/mr4receiver.html 

http://www.advcommsys.com/mt4transmitter.html 

.

 
 

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: kendecom repeaters on 220

[Mike Besemer (WM4B)]

Only 550mA at 24 volts. but the left out the 12 volts that feeds the driver!

 

Nonetheless, I've got two of them in service on 2 meters and they both are
doing very well.  I had a glitch at the site that left one of them keyed
almost continuously for about 12 hours and it didn't miss a beat.

 

They ARE proud ($$) of them though!

 

73,

 

Mike

WM4B

 

 

 

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Plack
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 4:22 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: kendecom repeaters on 220

 

  

Now Skipp, they're obviously protecting some very impressive technology.
Look down the specs...their high-power 2m transmitter does 30 watts out
while drawing only 500 mA at 24V. I don't care where you live...250%
efficiency, including all stages, is impressive!

 

;^)

 

73,

Paul, AE4KR

 

- Original Message - 

From: skipp025   

To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 9:37 AM

Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: kendecom repeaters on 220

 

  


I gotta laugh at their web pages a bit... 

http://www.advcommsys.com/mr4receiver.html 

http://www.advcommsys.com/mt4transmitter.html 

Lots of pictures of the outside of boxes but no 
internal circuit board views. Why can't we see 
what's under the hood? 





.

 
 

[Repeater-Builder] Cushman CE-5

[Mike WA6ILQ]

Anybody have any service info on a CE-5 ?

One followed me home, and it has several problems.

first,  the output level varies with frequency,
second, it's off frequency,
third, a bunch of dial lights are out (unless there are reasons not
to, time for some white LEDs)

Mike WA6ILQ

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: kendecom repeaters on 220

[Paul Plack]

Now Skipp, they're obviously protecting some very impressive technology. Look 
down the specs...their high-power 2m transmitter does 30 watts out while 
drawing only 500 mA at 24V. I don't care where you live...250% efficiency, 
including all stages, is impressive!

;^)

73,
Paul, AE4KR

  - Original Message - 
  From: skipp025 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 9:37 AM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: kendecom repeaters on 220



  I gotta laugh at their web pages a bit... 

  http://www.advcommsys.com/mr4receiver.html 

  http://www.advcommsys.com/mt4transmitter.html 

  Lots of pictures of the outside of boxes but no 
  internal circuit board views. Why can't we see 
  what's under the hood? 
   


  . 

  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: kendecom repeaters on 220

[Paul Plack]

On the transmitter page, ACS says, "all our products are rated for continuous 
commercial duty."

Then, a little lower, "90% DUTY CYCLE"

Do they even know?

73,
Paul, AE4KR

  - Original Message - 
  From: skipp025 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 9:37 AM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: kendecom repeaters on 220



  I gotta laugh at their web pages a bit... 

  http://www.advcommsys.com/mr4receiver.html 

  http://www.advcommsys.com/mt4transmitter.html 


  . 

  

[Repeater-Builder] Re: GE Lookout Repeater related info needed.

[ka1jfy]

Interesting.

I just got one from the same seller.

eBay item number 230380368745

As I used to be a 'portables' tech and worked on a fair number of PE's, I hope 
to get mine going too.

WalterH

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "lsasmazel"  wrote:
>
> This unit come from Alaska regarding to seller it sat in the boxes and wait 
> to get deployed. But it never happened. 
> 
> Frequencies are ;
> 
> TX :  166.850 Mhz, , 166.850 Mhz  
> RX:   164.425 Mhz, 164.425 Mhz
> 
> I just figured out that this is one frequency unit :)
> 
> Levent � WW2L 
> 
>SNIP>

[Repeater-Builder] orola ZR320 sellective calling setup infor pls help

[Saviour Otsemobor]

Hello All,
pls does anyone has infor on setting up a ZR320 controller for repeater as a 
sellective calling system. the portable to be used are the mot gp380 radios.?
regards
savy


  

[Repeater-Builder] Web Site worth looking at - Serial, Parallel and USB info.

[skipp025]

I'm working on some specialized radio software and this 
web site came to my attention (thanks Pete). 

http://www.beyondlogic.org/ 

Well worth a look if you have an interest in Serial, 
Parallel and USB Port - Communications.  

cheers, 
s. 

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Spectrum SCR-200 222Mhz receiver problem

[Joe]

Hi Skipp,

Thanks for the info.  H, seems to me I have a box of receivers 
around here that looked like Spectrum stuff, but was up in the 460Mhz 
range.  That was years ago and I vaguely remember buying them for spare 
parts.  Time to get the snow shovel out and dig down about 10-15 years 
in the pile.  My miners helmet is around here somewhere.

Thanks,
73, Joe, K1ike



skipp025 wrote:
> The receiver uses a common theme found in other similar 
> receivers. From memory the IF is probably 21.4 MHz or 
> something like that and the multi function chip is an 
> MC-3359 or an something like that even though the diagram 
> shows a house part number. You can also compare the diagram 
> to the MC-3361 or the MC-3357 ... I'm pretty sure it's 
> one of those. 
>
> Find another mfgr making receiver boards with a similar 
> IF layout and order spare parts from them. You could even 
> check a Toko Coil source to see what they offer up. 
>
> Shouldn't even be horribly expensive to find a replacement 
> quad coil for the common Low Power Narrowband FM IF chips. 
>
> The trick is to ID the chip, find a mfgr using the same 
> chip and order parts for that receiver. I've done it many 
> times... 
>
> cheers,
> skipp 
>
>
>   
>> Joe  wrote:
>>
>> Hello to the group,
>>
>> Another project on the bench.  I have a club 222Mhz Spectrum repeater on 
>> the bench.  It was homebrewed years ago from spectrum RX and TX boards 
>> on a homemade chassis..  The receiver was deaf.  I found that L122, the 
>> Quadrature Detector Coil, was open.  I managed to get it off the board, 
>> disassemble it, and somehow I fixed it.  The wire is hair-like in 
>> diameter.  I'm a little unsure if this is going to be a permanent fix, 
>> so does anyone know a source for this coil? 
>>
>> 73, Joe, K1ike
>>
>> 
>
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor Repeater Modifications

[tahrens301]

Hi Jim,

I understand about the 2012 changeover, and all of our radios
are capable.

However, if I can put together a backup repeater that will be a
viable alternative for less than $100 that will last us until
that time, I consider it a good investment.

If I don't do it, we'll get hit by lightning & our only repeater
will get zapped.

If I do make it, then the weather will be fine, & it will have
been a 'waste'.

Just like insurance! :-)

Thanks,

Tim



--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, wd8chl  wrote:
>
> tahrens301 wrote:
> > Hi Folks,
> > 
> > I picked up a bunch of Micor repeaters today,
> > and as I figured, they have the TLD xxx4
> > receiver in them.  (160-174mhz).
> > 
> > I know that to put on 2 meters, new resonators
> > & some other stuff is required, but is it
> > necessary if I go down to 154?
> > 
> > I'm working on this as a backup repeater for our
> > FD.
> > 
> > Also, DRAT, no channel elements!
> > 
> > Did find one other interesting piece - an X9000 
> > base station.  Mighty big & will certainly hold 
> > down the desk.  (yep, it really is an x9000 :-))
> > (previous thread).
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Tim
> 
> I wouldn't put anything into doing that for a Fire Dept. By the end of 
> 2012, they are REQUIRED to go narrowband on VHF and UHF (low band and 
> 800 are exempt). While there are kits to modify the receivers for Micors 
> and others, there is some serious question as to whether the 
> transmitters can be considered 'certified' or 'accepted' for narrowband 
> use. It's more then just turning down the deviation. There is adjacent 
> channel noise/splatter to consider. Not to mention frequency stability.
>

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater Modifications

[wd8chl]

tahrens301 wrote:
> Hi Folks,
> 
> I picked up a bunch of Micor repeaters today,
> and as I figured, they have the TLD xxx4
> receiver in them.  (160-174mhz).
> 
> I know that to put on 2 meters, new resonators
> & some other stuff is required, but is it
> necessary if I go down to 154?
> 
> I'm working on this as a backup repeater for our
> FD.
> 
> Also, DRAT, no channel elements!
> 
> Did find one other interesting piece - an X9000 
> base station.  Mighty big & will certainly hold 
> down the desk.  (yep, it really is an x9000 :-))
> (previous thread).
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Tim

I wouldn't put anything into doing that for a Fire Dept. By the end of 
2012, they are REQUIRED to go narrowband on VHF and UHF (low band and 
800 are exempt). While there are kits to modify the receivers for Micors 
and others, there is some serious question as to whether the 
transmitters can be considered 'certified' or 'accepted' for narrowband 
use. It's more then just turning down the deviation. There is adjacent 
channel noise/splatter to consider. Not to mention frequency stability.

[Repeater-Builder] Re: kendecom repeaters on 220

[skipp025]

I gotta laugh at their web pages a bit... 

http://www.advcommsys.com/mr4receiver.html 

http://www.advcommsys.com/mt4transmitter.html 

Lots of pictures of the outside of boxes but no 
internal circuit board views. Why can't we see 
what's under the hood? 

And really pricey...  for that kind of money I 
want to see better/more pictures. Jimmy Hoffa 
inside one of those boxes or what?  

s. 




> First of all---Kendecom is an obsolete name. The Kendecom line has been 
> updated/improved and has been relabeled as ACS which stands for "Advanced 
> Communication Systems" which now builds the units. The RF innards are 
> basically the same as the last of Kendecom though improved in some 
> ways-ACS uses a CAT-1000 controller rather than the Kendecom controller 
> and the whole consist, with AC power supply, is packaged in a nice, 
> instrumented, easy to use rack mountable box.
> 
> I have five of their almost current production repeaters in my present 
> responsibility-three 2 meter units and one each on 220 and 440. They 
> were all purchased with provision for use with RLC-3 controllers--(an added 
> connector arrangement on the rear panel to allow the use of either the 
> internal CAT or a RLC-3 externally). I did have a problem with all at 
> first---ACS had changed a part in their receivers due previous part 
> unavailability, but this was all worked out to both of our advantages and 
> ACS was a pleasure to work with. Anyway, all of these repeaters have since 
> been absolutely reliable, sound very good, have good sensitivity and 
> excellent selectivity. Three of them are on a heavily populated hospital 
> roof---absolutely no interference problems.
> 
> The only thing that I don't like about the ACS repeater is that they use a 
> 28 volt fed output amplifier which makes 12 volt battery backup a problem 
> unless lower output power when on battery is acceptable.
> 
> Please feel free to contact me directly if you have questions,
> 
> Scott, N6NXI
> 
> 
>   - Original Message - 
>   From: Jed Barton
>   To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 10:28 AM
>   Subject: [Repeater-Builder] kendecom repeaters on 220
> 
> 
> Hey guys,
> 
>   I'm working with a group and have given them several suggestions for
>   repeaters on 220 including hipro, ge, moto, etc.
>   One thing i don't know much about is the kendecom, and thought i would ask
>   since they want to know.
>   As far as relyability, good, bad?
>   I know their lineup basicly hasn't changed in years. The people i know 
> that
>   have them have been reasonably happy, but figured i would get some input.
>   220 is a tough band as we all know.
>   Any thoughts guys?
> 
>   Thanks,
>   Jed
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> --
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Emergency Medical Systems Duplex / Repeater UHF Mobile Radio Model Q2203A

[wd8chl]

Joe wrote:
> Hello Eric,
> 
> My EMS repeater also has 2 more frequencies in it, 468.950 and 468.975, 
> for a total of 10 frequencies.  

Are you sure it isn't 467?
462.95/467.95 and 462.975/467.975 are known as Med 9 and Med 10, and are 
used as dispatch only channels, no telemetry.

[Repeater-Builder] Motorola SAM (station access module) for Quantro/Quantar

[phil e]

Looking for another one for a project.
Let me know if anyone has one they want to part with.
Thanks