[Repeater-Builder] New GE files on repeater-builder.com

[Mike Morris WA6ILQ]

As I mentioned on Tuesday the 27 on the
repeater-builder yahoogroup I received a
CD in the mail from Eric WB6FLY with 35 PDF files
on it.

The most recent batch I uploaded to the web site are
18 LBI files, mostly of MVP and Exec/Exec II hardware.
All are full-width scans of excellent quality.

Thanks to Eric Lemmon WB6FLY for scanning them.

Mike WA6ILQ

[Repeater-Builder] Re: A warning to Land Mobile Radio Dealers

[J C]

If my life is in danger, I am going to use any frequency that I have to get 
help. I don't care if it is a remote broadcast link frequency for a radio 
station! But that's me.

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "La Rue Communications" 
 wrote:
>
> I forgot to add something, kind of crucial to my point at the end back 
> there. if my life was in jeopardy then. Is there a frequency that Law 
> Enforcement monitors for non emergency situations? For the public sector? Or 
> would it be any officer who knows how to build their own scanners? Let me 
> reclarify - if I was in an accident, and my radio was in reach over my cell 
> (i.e. my cell was in my pocket, or got knocked under the seat), and I had a 
> life threatening injury, what kind of response would that evoke?
> 
> John Hymes
> La Rue Communications
> 10 S. Aurora Street
> Stockton, CA 95202
> http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
>   - Original Message - 
>   From: Maire-Radios 
>   To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 10:30 AM
>   Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: A warning to Land Mobile Radio Dealers
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   you should not even think of doing that.
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: La Rue Communications 
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 1:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: A warning to Land Mobile Radio Dealers
> 
> 
>   
> 
> So if I had a UHF Saber, and programmed it to a Police frequency for the 
> purposes of TX EMERGENCY info only like 911, then its required to have 
> authorization? What if I was involved in a wreck and my radio was the only 
> thing in reach over my cell?
> 
> John Hymes
> La Rue Communications
> 10 S. Aurora Street
> Stockton, CA 95202
> http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
>   - Original Message - 
>   From: kd6aaj 
>   To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:58 AM
>   Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: A warning to Land Mobile Radio Dealers
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   Strange, considering the GMRS can come with radios you buy, before you 
> even have the license. I guess you have to be one of the BIG boys to sell 
> radios preprogrammed with those freqs.
> 
>   and there is an EXCEPTION:
> 
>   Title 47: Telecommunication
>   PART 90-PRIVATE LAND MOBILE RADIO SERVICES
>   Subpart N-Operating Requirements
> 
>   § 90.427 Precautions against unauthorized operation.
>   (a) Each transmitter shall be so installed and protected that it is not 
> accessible to or capable of operation by persons other than those duly 
> authorized by and under the control of the licensee. Provisions of this part 
> authorizing certain unlicensed persons to operate stations, or authorizing 
> unattended operation of stations in certain circumstances, shall not be 
> construed to change or diminish in any respect the responsibility of station 
> licensees to maintain control over the stations licensed to them (including 
> all transmitter units thereof), or for the proper functioning and operation 
> of those stations and transmitter units in accordance with the terms of the 
> licenses of those stations.
> 
>   (b) Except for frequencies used in accordance with §90.417, no person 
> shall program into a transmitter frequencies for which the licensee using the 
> transmitter is not authorized.
> 
>   and:
> 
>   § 90.417 Interstation communication.
>   top 
>   (a) Any station licensed under this part may communicate with any other 
> station without restriction as to type, service, or licensee when the 
> communications involved relate directly to the imminent safety-of-life or 
> property.
> 
>   (b) Any station licensed under this part may communicate with any other 
> station licensed under this part, with U.S. Government stations, and with 
> foreign stations, in connection with mutual activities, provided that where 
> the communication involves foreign stations prior approval of the Commission 
> must be obtained, and such communication must be permitted by the government 
> that authorizes the foreign station. Communications by Public Safety Pool 
> eligibles with foreign stations will be approved only to be conducted in 
> accordance with Article 5 of the Inter-American Radio Agreement, Washington, 
> DC, 1949, the provisions of which are set forth in §90.20(b). 
> 
>   [43 FR 54791, Nov. 22, 1978, as amended at 62 FR 18933, Apr. 17, 1997]
> 
>   ---end of CFR regs---
> 
>   So, what's to stop someone from saying they programmed a freq for 
> emergency use only? Why else have the exception, unless you are expected to 
> have an "unauthorized" frequency programed in your radio?
> 
>   So, the exception (90.417) clearly makes 90.427 un-enforceable UNLESS 
> you can prove intent to operate on the "unauthorized" frequency fo

[Repeater-Builder] Quantar Brackets

[hybridfan]

Anyone have a pair of Quantar rack mount brackets they want to part with??

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[Repeater-Builder] FS, Link Communications RLC - 2

[Larry Watkinson]

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] fcc violation notice???

[Richard]

The few hams I've talked to, say "well, the frequencies aren't ours anyway,
so the FCC can do whatever they want with them. So, given that attitude, I'm
not surprised that few are commenting.
 

Richard
www.n7tgb.net
The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's
money
--Margaret Thatcher


 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kris Kirby
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 2:33 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] fcc violation notice???


  

On Fri, 30 Apr 2010, Bill Smith wrote:
> Recon Scout is one that just received FCC approval for video in the 
> 439 MHz area.

I know about the Recon Scout. My name is all over the FCC's comments 
system rebutting the manufacturer's attorney. I'm at a bit of a loss as 
to why more amateurs aren't getting involved in trying to stop this 
misuse of spectrum. Even when the FCC makes an order, the affected users 
have a right to petition for reconsideration. 

I'm wondering if the device below is a Recon Scout, or if it is a device 
by another manufacturer.

> On Thu, 29 Apr 2010, Kirk Just Kirk wrote:
> > For some odd reason POLICE DEPTS. think they are exempt from any
> > frequency co-ordination!! There is one Law Enforcement agency here in
> > Las Vegas that has a "Robot" device that receives it's commands on
> > 154.570Mhz !!! WHAT THE HELL WERE THEY THINKING This freq is
> > MURS-4, it's unlicensed, but it IS a licensed channel used by damn
> > near every fast food eatery for it's drivethru window!! Can you
> > possibly think of a poorer choice of RF freq to control a Robot on
> > Dont get me started on the fact they use 439.250Mhz for the Video
> > feeds!!! besides it being used for HAM ATV it's a very common cable TV
> > channel!!
> 
> What manufacturer makes this robotic device?

--
Kris Kirby, KE4AHR
Disinformation Analyst

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Strange Signal on 158.275(ish)

[Mike Besemer (WM4B)]

That's it.  

 

Funny you can't include in emails and the site.

 

73,

 

Mike

WM4B

 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Kelsey
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 8:37 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Strange Signal on 158.275(ish)

 

  

Attachments on Yahoo Groups have these options for the list owner:

Attachments
a.. Store on site (exclude from emails)
b.. Include in emails (exclude from site)
c.. Exclude from site and emails
Chuck
WB2EDV

- Original Message - 
From: "Mike Besemer (WM4B)" mailto:mwbesemer%40cox.net>
net>
To: mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 8:31 PM
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Strange Signal on 158.275(ish)

If I recall correctly from the Yahoo Group I moderate, there is a way to set
up the group so that it does or does not allow attachments to show from the
web. I can't remember what it was called, but I remember that it was rather
obscure.

73,

Mike
WM4B

From: Repeater-Builder@ 
yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Repeater-Builder@ 
yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of La Rue Communications
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 7:53 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@ 
yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Strange Signal on 158.275(ish)

Chuck is on the ball more than I am..Yes, if you are not using your
email client to view these messages, its very likely the attachments do not
show up properly on the web page. I need to check the web page out and
verify for myself. In the meantime, you can tell us how you are vieweing
these messages.

John Hymes
La Rue Communications
10 S. Aurora Street
Stockton, CA 95202
http://tinyurl.  com/2dtngmn
- Original Message - 
From: Chuck Kelsey
To: Repeater-Builder@ 
yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Strange Signal on 158.275(ish)

You say IE8, so I'm assuming you are viewing the messages on the web rather
than individual emails. If so, I suspect that's the problem. I don't know
what happens to attachments when you are using the web page to read stuff.

Chuck
WB2EDV

- Original Message - 
From: "kd8biw" mailto:kd8biw%40hotmail.com> com>
To: mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 7:26 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Strange Signal on 158.275(ish)

> IBM with Windows XP and IE8. Any help is appreciated!
>
>



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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Strange Signal on 158.275(ish)

[Chuck Kelsey]

Attachments on Yahoo Groups have these options for the list owner:

Attachments
  a.. Store on site (exclude from emails)
  b.. Include in emails (exclude from site)
  c.. Exclude from site and emails
Chuck
WB2EDV



- Original Message - 
From: "Mike Besemer (WM4B)" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 8:31 PM
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Strange Signal on 158.275(ish)


If I recall correctly from the Yahoo Group I moderate, there is a way to set
up the group so that it does or does not allow attachments to show from the
web.  I can't remember what it was called, but I remember that it was rather
obscure.

73,

Mike
WM4B

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of La Rue Communications
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 7:53 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Strange Signal on 158.275(ish)


Chuck is on the ball more than I am..Yes, if you are not using your
email client to view these messages, its very likely the attachments do not
show up properly on the web page. I need to check the web page out and
verify for myself. In the meantime, you can tell us how you are vieweing
these messages.

John Hymes
La Rue Communications
10 S. Aurora Street
Stockton, CA 95202
http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
- Original Message - 
From: Chuck Kelsey
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Strange Signal on 158.275(ish)


You say IE8, so I'm assuming you are viewing the messages on the web rather
than individual emails. If so, I suspect that's the problem. I don't know
what happens to attachments when you are using the web page to read stuff.

Chuck
WB2EDV

- Original Message - 
From: "kd8biw" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 7:26 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Strange Signal on 158.275(ish)

> IBM with Windows XP and IE8. Any help is appreciated!
>
>









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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Strange Signal on 158.275(ish)

[Mike Besemer (WM4B)]

If I recall correctly from the Yahoo Group I moderate, there is a way to set
up the group so that it does or does not allow attachments to show from the
web.  I can’t remember what it was called, but I remember that it was rather
obscure.

73,

Mike
WM4B

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of La Rue Communications
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 7:53 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Strange Signal on 158.275(ish)

  
Chuck is on the ball more than I am..Yes, if you are not using your
email client to view these messages, its very likely the attachments do not
show up properly on the web page. I need to check the web page out and
verify for myself. In the meantime, you can tell us how you are vieweing
these messages.
 
John Hymes
La Rue Communications
10 S. Aurora Street
Stockton, CA 95202
http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
- Original Message - 
From: Chuck Kelsey 
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Strange Signal on 158.275(ish)

  
You say IE8, so I'm assuming you are viewing the messages on the web rather 
than individual emails. If so, I suspect that's the problem. I don't know 
what happens to attachments when you are using the web page to read stuff.

Chuck
WB2EDV

- Original Message - 
From: "kd8biw" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 7:26 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Strange Signal on 158.275(ish)

> IBM with Windows XP and IE8. Any help is appreciated!
>
> 

[Repeater-Builder] Hamvention D-STAR Activities

[Mark Thompson]

D-STAR at  Dayton Hamvention
 
During the Hamvention several D-STAR events & resources will be available.

D-STAR Digital Voice repeaters in  Dayton  are sponsored by DARA (Dayton 
Amateur Radio Association), the host of the Hamvention. 



Dayton D-STAR Repeaters

147.105 (+600 KHz) W8BI C
Accessible outdoors at Hamvention® HARA Arena with a handheld at 0.5 watts may 
be marginal so higher power is recommended.

444.0875 (+ 5MHz) W8BI B
70 cm repeater may be operational by time of the Hamvention®.
 

Dayton D-STAR Repeater Reflector Linking 
 Hamvention received approval from the D-STAR Reflector REF030B to link a W8BI 
D-STAR over the Hamvention® weekend. 
The repeater was linked last year as well using a different reflector. A 
reflector allows all repeaters & DV Dongles linked to it communicate as a 
group. 
D-STAR activity in  Dayton  over Hamvention® weekend can be followed by using a 
repeater or DV Dongle linked to the 30-B reflector 
instead of linking directly to the W8BI gateway.
 

Hamvention D-STAR Repeaters
At the Hamvention Icom has D-STAR digital voice 2m, 70cm & 23cm digital voice 
repeaters & radios on demonstration and 
the repeaters may be connected to the D-STAR network. The callsigns & 
frequencies of the demonstration repeaters will be available at the Hamvention.


Thursday Night D-STAR Meet, Greet and Eyeball QSO
On Thursday night prior to the Hamvention there is a D-STAR Meet, Greet and 
Eyeball QSO over dinner. 
It will occur on Thursday May 13th from 7 p.m. – 9 p.m at  Marion 's Piaza on  
1320 N Fairfield Road  in  Beavercreek ,  OH . 
More information about the event at: http://hamvention.org/events.php#dstar


D-STAR Friday Night Get Together
For the last four years there has been a Friday Night D-STAR Get Together at a 
hotel in  Dayton  hosted by the Texas & Alabama D-STAR groups. 
The event has been an opportunity to hear talks by experienced D-STAR repeater 
operators & innovators and meet with other D-STAR users.
  This year the Friday Night D-STAR Get Together will be on Friday, May 14th 
from 8 – 10 pm at the Drury Inn North, the same location as last year.  
The Georgia D-STAR group will host this year's event. The format this year will 
be a bit different from previous years 
with a few short presentations to start the evening followed by an open session 
with D-STAR experts on many topics stationed 
around the room to meet and answer your questions.

D-STAR Forum, Room #1, Friday, 12:45 – 14:15 pmHosted by Greg Sarratt, W4OZK
 
Speakers
DVAP/DV Dongle/D-PLUS/Multiple Software Packages, Robin Cutshaw, AA4RC
Home-brew D-STAR repeater, David Lake, G4ULF
D-RATS, D-STAR Digital Data Software, Dan Smith, KK7DS


  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Strange Signal on 158.275(ish)

[La Rue Communications]

Chuck is on the ball more than I am..Yes, if you are not using your email 
client to view these messages, its very likely the attachments do not show up 
properly on the web page. I need to check the web page out and verify for 
myself. In the meantime, you can tell us how you are vieweing these messages.

John Hymes
La Rue Communications
10 S. Aurora Street
Stockton, CA 95202
http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
  - Original Message - 
  From: Chuck Kelsey 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 4:45 PM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Strange Signal on 158.275(ish)



  You say IE8, so I'm assuming you are viewing the messages on the web rather 
  than individual emails. If so, I suspect that's the problem. I don't know 
  what happens to attachments when you are using the web page to read stuff.

  Chuck
  WB2EDV

  - Original Message - 
  From: "kd8biw" 
  To: 
  Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 7:26 PM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Strange Signal on 158.275(ish)

  > IBM with Windows XP and IE8. Any help is appreciated!
  >
  > 



  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Strange Signal on 158.275(ish)

[Chuck Kelsey]

You say IE8, so I'm assuming you are viewing the messages on the web rather 
than individual emails. If so, I suspect that's the problem. I don't know 
what happens to attachments when you are using the web page to read stuff.

Chuck
WB2EDV



- Original Message - 
From: "kd8biw" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 7:26 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Strange Signal on 158.275(ish)


> IBM with Windows XP and IE8.  Any help is appreciated!
>
> 

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Strange Signal on 158.275(ish)

[kd8biw]

IBM with Windows XP and IE8.  Any help is appreciated!

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "La Rue Communications" 
 wrote:
>
> What kind of computer are you two running? Mac or PC? I can try to shed some 
> light on this issue for you if I know what OS you are running.
> 
> John Hymes
> La Rue Communications
> 10 S. Aurora Street
> Stockton, CA 95202
> http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
>   - Original Message - 
>   From: serc...@... 
>   To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 5:41 AM
>   Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Strange Signal on 158.275(ish)
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   Ditto on not seeing any attachments..
> 
> 
> 
>   Mike, WA9FDO
>

Re: [Repeater-Builder] fcc violation notice???

[Kris Kirby]

On Fri, 30 Apr 2010, Bill Smith wrote:
> Recon Scout is one that just received FCC approval for video in the 
> 439 MHz area.

I know about the Recon Scout. My name is all over the FCC's comments 
system rebutting the manufacturer's attorney. I'm at a bit of a loss as 
to why more amateurs aren't getting involved in trying to stop this 
misuse of spectrum. Even when the FCC makes an order, the affected users 
have a right to petition for reconsideration. 

I'm wondering if the device below is a Recon Scout, or if it is a device 
by another manufacturer.

> On Thu, 29 Apr 2010, Kirk Just Kirk wrote:
> > For some odd reason POLICE DEPTS. think they are exempt from any
> > frequency co-ordination!! There is one Law Enforcement agency here in
> > Las Vegas that has a "Robot" device that receives it's commands on
> > 154.570Mhz !!!  WHAT THE HELL WERE THEY THINKING This freq is
> > MURS-4, it's unlicensed, but it IS a licensed channel used by damn
> > near every fast food eatery for it's drivethru window!! Can you
> > possibly think of a poorer choice of RF freq to control a Robot on
> > Dont get me started on the fact they use 439.250Mhz for the Video
> > feeds!!! besides it being used for HAM ATV it's a very common cable TV
> > channel!!
> 
> What manufacturer makes this robotic device?

--
Kris Kirby, KE4AHR
Disinformation Analyst

Re: [Repeater-Builder] fcc violation notice???

[Bill Smith]

Recon Scout is one that just received FCC approval for video in the 439 MHz 
area.





From: Kris Kirby 
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, April 30, 2010 12:33:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] fcc violation notice???

On Thu, 29 Apr 2010, Kirk Just Kirk wrote:
> For some odd reason POLICE DEPTS. think they are exempt from any 
> frequency co-ordination!! There is one Law Enforcement agency here in 
> Las Vegas that has a "Robot" device that receives it's commands on 
> 154.570Mhz !!!  WHAT THE HELL WERE THEY THINKING This freq is 
> MURS-4, it's unlicensed, but it IS a licensed channel used by damn 
> near every fast food eatery for it's drivethru window!! Can you 
> possibly think of a poorer choice of RF freq to control a Robot on 
> Dont get me started on the fact they use 439.250Mhz for the Video 
> feeds!!! besides it being used for HAM ATV it's a very common cable TV 
> channel!! 

What manufacturer makes this robotic device?

--
Kris Kirby, KE4AHR
Disinformation Analyst






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Re: [Repeater-Builder] A warning to Land Mobile Radio Dealers

[John Gleichweit]

You can tell WalMart security to go eff himself. Nobody owns a non-licensed 
frequency, and all users must accept other users on those channels. Look at 
Section 95.1309. 

 -- 
John "Smokey Behr" Gleichweit FF1/EMT, CCNA, MCSE
IPN-CAL023 N6FOG UP Fresno Sub MP183.5 ECV1852
List Owner x10, Moderator x9 CalEMA 51-507
http://smokeybehr.blogspot.com
http://www.myspace.com/smokeybehr


>
>From: ka9qjg 
>To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Thu, April 29, 2010 6:08:59 PM
>Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] A warning to Land Mobile Radio Dealers
>
> >
>
> 
> 
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>
> 
>>
>A Example would be the 5 Lic Free Mur Freqs ,  I was
>talking to My wife who was in Wall mart Shopping and Wal-Mart Security  OFF
>Duty PD Told Me to get Off His Freq
> Well I was not  going to argue the FCC Law , So I
>called My wife on Her cell and said don’t use the Radio and it  was
>a certified 2 Watt Mur HT . 
> 
>I “am sure all over the US some of these Freqs are
>still being used By People that did require a FCC lic and spend a lot of Money
>on Equipment. 
> What are
>the MURS channels?
> Channel (MHz) [95.632]
>151.820
>MHz
>>151.880 MHz
>>151.940 MHz
>>154.570 MHz
>>154.600 MHz
>More info on Murs at 
>http://home.provide.net/~prsg/murs_faq.htm
>And the fact that almost everyone is selling Bubble Pack FRS/GMRS 22 Freq
>Radios and People unknowing interfering with Lic GMRS Repeaters that is bad too
>
> 
>Don KA9QJG 
> 
> 
> 
>
>
>

Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] fcc violation notice???

[dmurman]

Back in the 70's I was working for the Jefferson County Police in Louisville 
Ky. We had a hi-band system and when the University of Cincinnati football team 
came to town to play against the UofL team they brought their portables and 
would you know they were on our input to one of our repeaters and had the same 
tone. In the evening we recorded much profanity between two users who didn't 
know they were being broadcast on our repeater.

Not sure what happened after turning it over to the FCC but I'm sure some heads 
did roll.


David


Apr 30, 2010 05:15:54 AM, Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com wrote:

  



This is a complex "Problem". Wal-Mart corporate management KNOWS radios require 
a FCC license. In reality Wal-Mart should have a person on staff that requests 
licenses for EACH AND EVERY Wal-Mart location.He should ship the correctly 
programmed radios to the correct locations.But what do you do when the LOCAL 
store manager takes things into his own hands?
Scenerio #2
Roscoe owns a plumbing company in CALIFORNIA. He was issued a license for 
several mobiles and handhelds on a 470Mhz splinter channel.So far..so good...
Roscoe says to hell with California (and it's taxes) and moves his business to 
Las Vegas, Nv. Roscoe takes the radios with the business.There are NO REPEATERS 
in las Vegas on 470Mhz due to TV channels on that part of the band (470-476 and 
506-512).Roscoe operates the radios (Simplex) in Vegas, causing interferance to 
the TV channel and getting slammed by the wideband digital signal they put 
out.Happens more then you think!
Bottom line
These people dont care where they fire up or who they interfere with. When Mom 
and Pa open a corner market or booths at the swapmeet you better hope they dont 
score a good deal on a few 2 meter walkies on 146.520 !
Another "Problem" in Las Vegas
While this one is not a huge problem, it happens too. Visitors come to Las 
Vegas from a lot of foreign countries. People in the UK have whats called "PMR" 
radios. It's their FRS service. The radios are all simplex, 8 channels on 
6.25Khz splinter channels starting at 446.000  Yep! if you scan those 
channels here you DO hear activity on them!
Now our output channels are 445.000 to 449.975Mhz, but * IF* we were high 
in,low out this would be a problem.
Here is another good one
For some odd reason POLICE DEPTS. think they are exempt from any frequency 
co-ordination!! There is one Law Enforcement agency here in Las Vegas that has 
a "Robot" device that receives it's commands on 154.570Mhz !!!  WHAT THE HELL 
WERE THEY THINKING This freq is MURS-4, it's unlicensed, but it IS a 
licensed channel used by damn near every fast food eatery for it's drivethru 
window!! Can you possibly think of a poorer choice of RF freq to control a 
Robot on Dont get me started on the fact they use 439.250Mhz for the Video 
feeds!!! besides it being used for HAM ATV it's a very common cable TV 
channel!! For people that are very "Smart" they could not be dumber when it 
comes to choice of frequencies!! They COULD order it with a VHF channel 
licensed to the very same dept and the video COULD be in the 1700Mhz area set 
aside for FEDERAL use (or even 4.9Ghz). 
Carry a "Nearfield" scanner in your pocket, it will blow your mind where stuff 
pops up!.


On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 8:05 PM, wd8chl  wrote:

  



Ted Bleiman K9MDM - MDM Radio wrote:
> since those radios wander from store to store having the frequency programmed 
> in as a convenience for the store personnel, I would not, find out of the 
> ordinary or particularly in violation of the FC C rules.
> And that I would think is a legitimate defense for them.
> But not being a Lawyer practicing bvefore the FCC might disqualify my opinion.
> Practicality has no place in the FCC rules...obviously... and never has.
> mdm
> 

Nope, not a legit argument. They were using the frequency at that store, 
which is a violation.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] fcc violation notice???

[Nate Duehr]

On Apr 29, 2010, at 9:37 PM, Kirk Just Kirk wrote:

> There is one Law Enforcement agency here in Las Vegas that has a "Robot" 
> device that receives it's commands on 154.570Mhz !!!  WHAT THE HELL WERE THEY 
> THINKING This freq is MURS-4

As Ron White would say... "You can't fix stupid."

;-)

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