Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: RadioShack Recalls Power Supplies Due toElectrocution and Fire Hazards
It's funny you mention building construction. I work for a company that,
under the original ownership in the 70's, built two identical
facilities, one in California and one in Illinois. I work for the
company in Illinois. The buildings were constructed to California code,
and I'm sure you can imagine the problems we've had with the buildings
in the winter.
Chris
N9XCR
On Sun, 2008-07-06 at 13:12 -0500, Ron Wright wrote:
Dave,
This is a code requirement here in my county and think all of Florida.
The code requirements for building is a county/state issue and vary.
Most use the NEC code. Many have additional codes such as having wind
resistance building. The way homes are constructed in the north would
not be allowed in Florida mainly due to the wind. This is why we see
so much concrete block construction with lots of requirements for
attaching to foundation and roof securing. Just different part of the
US.
Same with electric code. For various reasons some additional changes
are often made. Just because you have a code in your area does not
mean it is in all of US. It is county mostly with some state codes. In
my county there were NO building codes until the 70s. Can you believe
this.
73, ron, n9ee/r
From: Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2008/07/06 Sun AM 11:43:50 EDT
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: RadioShack Recalls Power Supplies
Due toElectrocution and Fire Hazards
Where is the requirement for running a separate feed to EACH OUTLET
REQUIRED? Not in the US A dedicated out is required for certain
special situations but not for each outlet elsewhere. There are
certain
other requirements such as GFCI and AFCI. But, certainly no
dedicated
feeder for each out.
Ron Wright wrote:
Gary,
I've noticed in panels the safety ground and neutral go to a
different buss bar. I had thought maybe because the neutral was
sometimes, not now to code, smaller than the neutral. However, both
got connected to the panel case. One can Ohm out neutral to safety and
only see the resistance in the wiring to/from the panel. However, as
you well know, should not be considered the same.
In most plastic coated wireing I see today the safety wire is green
coated, but some is still bare as you said. I've seen lots of this.
Now in our county following NEC code the safety wire has to be same
size as neutral . No more of the 14-2 w/G cable, but 14-3 one being
safety ground color or bare. Also they are doing something different,
a separate set of wires must be ran between panel and each outlet...no
more of one wire to one outlet and then from here to another outlet,
etc. Can you imagine the extra cost and labor. Not sure what they do
at the breaker panel...put in separate breaker for each outlet. Not
sure if this NEC code or something to do with the hurricane code we
have here in Florida. We do lots of construction very different here,
hi.
73, ron, n9ee/r
From: Gary Glaenzer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2008/07/06 Sun AM 10:19:49 EDT
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: RadioShack Recalls Power
Supplies Due toElectrocution and Fire Hazards
I don't know what part of the US you live in, but around here
(western IL)
the grounding conductor ('safety ground') is bare in Romex-type
cable, and
may or may not be insulated in conduit, and usually one size
smaller than
the 'main' conductors.
Also, the GC goes to one bus-bar, the neutral to another, the GC
bus-bar is
bonded ot the neutral at the SERVICE panel (incoming power, the
one with the
'Main' braker that shuts off all power), but is kept separate in
all
sub-panels, and from the sub-panel(s) there must be a separate GC
(coded
green) run back to the GC bus-bar in the service panel.
Ron Wright, N9EE
727-376-6575
MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS
Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL
No tone, all are welcome.
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Ron Wright, N9EE
727-376-6575
MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS
Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL
No tone, all are welcome.
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Radial Ice, Detuning
Isn't it amazing how little 1% affects us as compared to the big boys? Lol Chris From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 12:26 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Radial Ice, Detuning Paul Plack wrote: FM and TV Broadcasters go to much trouble and expense to maintain antenna heaters to deal with this issue. Some use ice detectors which evaluate precip and temp on the tower, to turn on the antenna heater automatically when conditions are favorable for ice formation. Otherwise, ice can form so fast the heaters can't keep up, and some broadcast stations have to shut down when SWR gets too high due to ice. heh-yeah, even 1% reflected on a 100,000 W TV station is 1000 W of reflected power! -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Ritron Repeater Plus
I'm not exactly sure. I didn't see a model number on it anywhere, just an FCC ID sticker. I'll post it when I get home tonight. From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of skipp025 Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 12:41 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Ritron Repeater Plus The Ritron Repeaters can be moved down into the ham/amateur band but it's a fair amount of work to do it well/right. Just a question of which Repeater Plus unit you have... cheers, skipp Christopher Zeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I picked up a Ritron Repeater Plus at a recent hamfest. It's currently tuned to 461MHz. Can these be retuned to 440? Has anyone used them for amateur repeaters? Chris N9XCR image001.jpgimage002.jpg
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Ritron Repeater Plus
I can't figure out how I missed that when I was on the site before. Thank you! It turns out I have the RR-455. From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Struebel Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 6:28 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Ritron Repeater Plus There are several manuals for different versions of these repeaters on the Repeater Builder Technical Information Page. I have one of these myself and have sucessfully tuned it into the ham band. http://www.repeater-builder.com/rbtip/ Dave WB2FTX - Original Message - From: skipp025 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 1:40 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Ritron Repeater Plus The Ritron Repeaters can be moved down into the ham/amateur band but it's a fair amount of work to do it well/right. Just a question of which Repeater Plus unit you have... cheers, skipp Christopher Zeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I picked up a Ritron Repeater Plus at a recent hamfest. It's currently tuned to 461MHz. Can these be retuned to 440? Has anyone used them for amateur repeaters? Chris N9XCR _ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.12/1096 - Release Date: 10/27/2007 11:02 AM image001.jpgimage002.jpg
[Repeater-Builder] Ritron Repeater Plus
I picked up a Ritron Repeater Plus at a recent hamfest. It's currently tuned to 461MHz. Can these be retuned to 440? Has anyone used them for amateur repeaters? Chris N9XCR
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Would You Do This?
I would DEFINITELY do it. :) I'm just trying to figure out what all the mystery was about to begin with. hehehehe Chris N9XCR Christopher Hodgdon wrote: Ok, here goes, just read the post below and I have answered each question as we go along. --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com, Eric Lemmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christopher, You didn't provide enough information for a meaningful response. For example: 1. Is the tower literally abandoned? As far as we can tell 2. How much rent will you have to pay? $0 3. How much liability insurance will you have to carry? The amount currently used by our parent non-profit organization 4. Is your power metered, or will you pay a flat rate? We would have a meter of our own + site has a backup generator 5. Will you be able to come and go as you please, with your own key? Yes and Yes 6. Are there other users of the tower? Not at this time 7. Must any of the other users be shut down when you work on your antenna? NO 8. Have you read the site rules and are you prepared to obey them? They don't have any at time time 9. Is this site preferable to any other site you may use? Yes 10. Does your repeater equipment meet the quality expectations of the site owner? It should 11. Will you have any responsibilities, such as grass cutting, corrosion control, etc? At our own opinion 12. Is your equipment capable of operating satisfactorily in a high RF environment? Working on that. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY I know that American Tower has bought up a lot of the old ATT long line stations, which brings me to my point and wanting to know how people felt about these sites in general. Where we are located, there is the opportunity to pickup a complete (building, land and tower) Long Line Station. American Tower does not want or need it, since they have a larger tower located within 2 miles of this location. This is a rather complete 26,000 sq. ft. building, with a basement, operational generator, self-contained water system, water chillers for cooling and tons of room inside. The site was built in the mid 50's with the high security design to allow for the ability to survive a nuclear blast within a mile radius of the facility. It sits on 4 1/2 acres of land and includes a 189' tower, still with Microwave horns on it. The tower is complete, less the transmission equipment. Having spoken with some builders that build facilities similar to this, was informed to build such a location (exact standards) would cost will close to a million dollars. But here is an opportunity to purchase a ready made facility for less than $200,000.00. OK, I know, if you got the money, well shot get it. Which is what we are working on. Possible the ultimate ham shack? If you could do it, would you?
Re: [Repeater-Builder] A Monday Laugh
Ya know, we've thought about doing that on a few occasions, but figured it just wasn't worth the effort. They have several different dispatchers, and usually get new ones every year. The thing we can't figure out is why Park Operations insists on having international employees with HEAVY accents calling out ride downtimes. We usually have to make a phone call or more to find someone who actually understood the dispatcher. Chris N9XCR Mike Morris wrote: Walk into the dispatch area with a handheld and say OK, I'm transmitting. Key down and over-ride my thumb on the button and make your voice come out of my speaker. Don't feel alone, I had to do just that to make a paving company dispatcher come to their senses. And the idiot had the nerve to call my boss and complain because I made her feel stupid after I went to extra trouble to show here when there was no one else in the room. Mike WA6ILQ At 04:19 PM 03/10/07, you wrote: I work for a theme park, and our seasonal supervisors carry GP300's. It never fails; someone's radio ALWAYS gets wet when it rains. They'll be transmitting for at least 5-15 minutes straight. The company that maintains/programs our radios never program the TOT in the damn things. Now, Park Operations always says the same thing when a situation like this occurs: Park Base to all units. Please check for an open mic. You can try to tell them all you want that the person who is transmitting and walking around the park IS NOT going to hear them, but of course they know better. Base overrides the portables. They truly believe that the person transmitting is going to hear them. Oh, and 90-95% of everyone wears and earphone. Chris N9XCR Jim B. wrote: Kris Kirby wrote: On Mon, 5 Mar 2007, Eric Lemmon wrote: talkative. Most of these blabbermouths consider setting the TOT on their own radios as too restrictive. Every user radio in my commercial fleet has the TOT set for 30 seconds. In my mind, that's more than enough time to get any important message across. Unfortunately, many Hams think otherwise... That's not a bad idea. I'd probably want to set it at 120 seconds; one of the repeaters I grew up using had a 4-minute timer. I program most of my radios for 300 seconds or five minutes, just in case of stuck keys. What is done on ham gear is one thing, but on commercial fleets, it should never be more then 90 seconds, and for public safety should be no more then 60, preferably 30-45 seconds. While I was driving to work yesterday, and had my local fire dept repeater in scan, a dead carrier suddenly appeared. In listening, it was obvious that someone was sitting on their mic button. You could faintly hear talking, and mobile flutter. It continued for, oh, maybe 20 minutes or so. Either they never programmed the TOT on the radio, or, knowing FD's, they have an old radio that doesn't have one, like an HT-90 or something, maybe even an MT-500 or HT-220... MAJOR issue... -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL
Re: [Repeater-Builder] A Monday Laugh
I work for a theme park, and our seasonal supervisors carry GP300's. It never fails; someone's radio ALWAYS gets wet when it rains. They'll be transmitting for at least 5-15 minutes straight. The company that maintains/programs our radios never program the TOT in the damn things. Now, Park Operations always says the same thing when a situation like this occurs: Park Base to all units. Please check for an open mic. You can try to tell them all you want that the person who is transmitting and walking around the park IS NOT going to hear them, but of course they know better. Base overrides the portables. They truly believe that the person transmitting is going to hear them. Oh, and 90-95% of everyone wears and earphone. Chris N9XCR Jim B. wrote: Kris Kirby wrote: On Mon, 5 Mar 2007, Eric Lemmon wrote: talkative. Most of these blabbermouths consider setting the TOT on their own radios as too restrictive. Every user radio in my commercial fleet has the TOT set for 30 seconds. In my mind, that's more than enough time to get any important message across. Unfortunately, many Hams think otherwise... That's not a bad idea. I'd probably want to set it at 120 seconds; one of the repeaters I grew up using had a 4-minute timer. I program most of my radios for 300 seconds or five minutes, just in case of stuck keys. What is done on ham gear is one thing, but on commercial fleets, it should never be more then 90 seconds, and for public safety should be no more then 60, preferably 30-45 seconds. While I was driving to work yesterday, and had my local fire dept repeater in scan, a dead carrier suddenly appeared. In listening, it was obvious that someone was sitting on their mic button. You could faintly hear talking, and mobile flutter. It continued for, oh, maybe 20 minutes or so. Either they never programmed the TOT on the radio, or, knowing FD's, they have an old radio that doesn't have one, like an HT-90 or something, maybe even an MT-500 or HT-220... MAJOR issue... -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] FCC Test/Tower fall
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSseoyHouOM I think he WAS going to climb back down, but ended up going down the fast way. DCFluX wrote: Link? On 2/1/07, *Mike Perryman* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found it... the guy was on the top-plate of a roughly 500 foot self-supporter... he tried to rip the lightning rod off and lost his footing... serves him right. No sleep lost here... 73 Mike Perryman _www.k5jmp.us http://www.k5jmp.us_ -Original Message- *From:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com]*On Behalf Of *Chuck Kelsey *Sent:* Thursday, February 01, 2007 4:53 PM *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] FCC Test/Tower fall What site are you talking about? Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, February 01, 2007 3:27 PM *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] FCC Test/Tower fall Take a look at same site for non-entertainment video clip of the guy falling off the top of a huge tower to his death. That should be a refresher for some people to be extra careful when climbing towers. Gary K2UQ
Re: [Repeater-Builder] FCC Test/Tower fall
I was wondering about that. I went to the link someone else posted, and it said STUNTBOARDS across the bottom. Chuck Kelsey wrote: The fall appeared to be a stunt. There was another version on UTube and you could see the airbag at the bottom and there was a stunt logo on the screen. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - *From:* WD7F - John in Tucson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, February 01, 2007 7:00 PM *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] FCC Test/Tower fall DuhI'll never know why I hit the send button after I read this messagesorry. de WD7F - Original Message - *From:* Mike Perryman K5JMP mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, February 01, 2007 4:31 PM *Subject:* RE: [Repeater-Builder] FCC Test/Tower fall Sorry, was headed out the office door... just arrived home and see the link has already been posted... 73 Mike K5JMP www.k5jmp.us http://www.k5jmp.us -Original Message- *From:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of *DCFluX *Sent:* Thursday, February 01, 2007 5:12 PM *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] FCC Test/Tower fall Link? On 2/1/07, *Mike Perryman* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found it... the guy was on the top-plate of a roughly 500 foot self-supporter... he tried to rip the lightning rod off and lost his footing... serves him right. No sleep lost here... 73 Mike Perryman _www.k5jmp.us http://www.k5jmp.us_ -Original Message- *From:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com]*On Behalf Of *Chuck Kelsey *Sent:* Thursday, February 01, 2007 4:53 PM *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] FCC Test/Tower fall What site are you talking about? Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, February 01, 2007 3:27 PM *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] FCC Test/Tower fall Take a look at same site for non-entertainment video clip of the guy falling off the top of a huge tower to his death. That should be a refresher for some people to be extra careful when climbing towers. Gary K2UQ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.15/659 - Release Date: 1/30/2007 9:31 AM
Re: [Repeater-Builder] State sites
That's what I said. Perhaps I missed something, but where does it say that a tower owner HAS to allow anyone to use space on their tower? Ken Arck wrote: At 08:09 AM 1/31/2007, you wrote: Hello Mike, The American Civil Liberties Union sure would love this. --Huh??? -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of the world famous RC210 Repeater Controller and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/arcom/index.html http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/arcom/index.html Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net http://www.irlp.net
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: coordination question for the seasoned owners
This behavior furthers in the mindset that this is an old man's hobby -- because only an old man with nothing else to do with his time but cause trouble can sustain the fight. How about the younger generation that thinks everything should just be handed to them? No, I am not referring to code/no-code. I am simply stating what I see in the 16-22 year-olds (especially the college grads) at work. Chris N9XCR
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: coordination question for the seasoned owners
I don't many, but I was simply responding to the statement that only old men are the ones causing trouble. I just wanted to point out that anyone with the means to put up a repeater have the same opportunity to cause trouble. BTW, I'm 29. :) I considered putting up a 6M or 900MHz repeater myself but, like you, lack the resources necessary to get it on a tower. I have a low-band GE Mastr II sitting at home that needs to be duplexed. I think I'll do it, and just buy the rest of the system, piece-by-piece, until I have a fully functioning system as well. I'll put it up when opportunity presents itself. Kris Kirby wrote: On Mon, 22 Jan 2007, Christopher Zeman wrote: How about the younger generation that thinks everything should just be handed to them? No, I am not referring to code/no-code. I am simply stating what I see in the 16-22 year-olds (especially the college grads) at work. Let's put this into (a) perspective; how many 16-22 year olds do you know who have the means and/or ability to put a repeater up? I am 27 and have a fully-built 900MHz repeater sitting in a garage because I lack the resources to erect and/or maintain a tower site. You'd likely want to note that my choice of band means I can all but declare my own coordination as 95% of the US has no local 900MHz repeater operating in Part 97 service. I just look at this more from a perspective of eliminating interference -- for example, there's no reason for a large network of repeaters to NOT be on the same frequency if they have a common backbone on a different band and are designed for interconnected use only. You'll only ever hear the repeater you are closest to and likewise, will only 'work' the reciever closest to your location (except in rare cases). Likewise, it's futile to attempt to work a repeater 80 miles away on the same frequency as a local repeater five miles from your location with just a PL tone change. You reciever will capture the local repeater every time the carrier goes active, regardless of any ability to discern correct PL. The RF signal just won't be there. These are proven solvable problems. People problems, on the other hand... -- Kris Kirby, KE4AHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:kris%40catonic.us
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Rule on tampering with a FCC licensed transmiter
There was an incident in my area about 10 years ago where an individual had interfered with the local sheriff's department. The individual was charged by the county. I don't know what the charge was exactly, but I believe the individual was charged with a mis-demeanor. Chris N9XCR - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 3:52 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Rule on tampering with a FCC licensed transmiter In a message dated 12/9/2006 1:34:14 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I seem to recall there is a hook in the CB rules that allows the locals to cite for certain offenses that are blatantly obvious. It comes down to this: intentional interference with radiation from a transmitter, or intentionally interfering with the reception capability of a receiver that has an FCC station authorization is a Federal offense. Unless the equipment is owned by a Federal entity, stealing it is not a Federal offense but unquestionably is a state and/or local offense. In the case of deliberate interference to a public safety channel, local police agencies cold get the necessary search warrants to apprehend the miscreant and stop the interference, but the charges leveled at the perp would be filed by the local Federal Attorney. As a practical matter, in these situations, the FCC is involved from the get go because local law enforcement rarely has the DFing gear to pinpoint the source. In the case of deliberate interference to an amateur station, local law enforcement will politely refer you to the FCC.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Rule on tampering with a FCC licensed transmiter
Presented by eham.net Sorry, couldn't help myself. :) Chris N9XCR - Original Message - From: Dave To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 7:23 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Rule on tampering with a FCC licensed transmiter The comments on applicable laws are both more interesting and more instructive than your insulting diatribe. At your first opportunity, you should get a life. A prime example of the type of gomeril I am refering to with my statement... ... BS, Big heads, and everyone is inferior to my way of thinking... thats the majority in here. Dave / N9NLU
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Rule on tampering with a FCC licensed transmiter
I would have to wonder what you were talking about exactly, but I would assume it's a TREMENDOUS NO-NO. :) Chris N9XCR JOHN MACKEY wrote: Can anyone qoute me the rule abotu tampering with a federally licensed transmitter?
Re: FW: Read: [Repeater-Builder] Stuck cores
Have you run a virus scan? Chris N9XCR N9WYS wrote: I don't know what this is, but I don't think I sent this message... Maybe someone is spoofing my address. And I don't send stuff to the list with a read request. Mark - N9WYS _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of don q Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 5:34 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Read: [Repeater-Builder] Stuck cores Your message To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Stuck cores Sent: 12/5/2006 8:37 AM was read on 12/6/2006 5:33 PM.
Re: FW: Read: [Repeater-Builder] Stuck cores
I just installed CentOS on my laptop the other day and had the opportunity to try gaim. I cannot say enough good things about it! I was so happy not to see the damn ads in the top of my buddy list. It's just what an IM client should be!!! Chris N9XCR STeve Andre' wrote: Heh. I have to agree. For those who aren't computer nerds, Outlook (and IE) are truly dangerous problems, fraught with problems and security holes. Yes, they look nice, but they're as unsecure as they are nice to the end user. Everyone is encouraged to look at Eudora and Thunderbird for email, and Firefox for web browsing. Eudora is commercial, but there is a free version which is great, and Firefox/Thunderbird are open-source programs which you can freely and legally give to all your friends. Please consider using them; they make using Windows less of a security horror. Oh, and if you use instant messenger software, try gaim. It speaks all the popular protocols (yahoo, icq, msn...) and is a lot safer security wise. Google for those terms and you'll find out where to get them. If anyone has questions send me private mail and I'll help. It's important that people stop using dangerous software. --STeve Andre' wb8wsf en82 On Wednesday 06 December 2006 21:18, Ken Arck wrote: At 05:56 PM 12/6/2006, you wrote: I don't know what this is, but I don't think I sent this message... Maybe someone is spoofing my address. ---Personally, I think anyone who runs MS Outlook should be drawn and quartered and their remains fed to zoo animals while their family members are required to watch and provide the ketchup I'm sorry and apologize if that offends anyone. I know I'm not being tough enough on 'em.. Ken Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Sex Video
Yeah, sign me up to buy one of those!!! lol Chris N9XCR - Original Message - From: skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 10:21 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Sex Video Some new feature built into a repeater or controller that I'm missing? Darn hard to keep up with technology... :-) skipp kuggie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - forwarded message - Re: Sex Video [someone spoofing Kevin's email address and domain] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Small (and LARGE) fonts (Please read)
I used to use Thunderbird, but ditched it because of stability issues. I was getting IMAP Server does not exist all the time. I went back to it after a few months (fresh installation) and had the same problems. There are many features in Thunderbird I love and wish Outlook Express had, but at least I don't have the problems with Outlook Express that I did with Thunderbird. Chris N9XCR - Original Message - From: Jay Urish [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 1:01 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Small (and LARGE) fonts (Please read) You might consider switching to Thuderbird. I dumped Eudora a long time ago due to massive stability issues. Tbird is free. www.mozilla.com Bob Dengler wrote: At 4/3/2006 06:23 AM, you wrote: If everybody would just configure their mailer to send plain text then there would be no problems. Since that's probably never going to happen then the recipients can take matters into their own hands and have their mailers ignore HTML. This way everything is displayed in plain text. I rarely use a web based mailer like Yahoo, Hotmail or Gmail, or Microsofts virus magnet (Outlook) so I can't help there, but in Eudora 7 click on Tools, then Options, Viewing Mail and uncheck Use Microsoft's Viewer. Have been doing that for ages. However, some messages still read here with varying font sizes/styles/colors. I've talked to Qualcomm tech. support about offering an option in Eudora to completely ignore text styles embedded images, but I guess that won't happen. Bob NO6B Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] RE: Don't miss it
I have to wait 100 years to be a year older? LOL It will be the year 2106 100 years from now. :) Chris N9XCR - Original Message - From: hq54 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 2:28 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] RE: Don't miss it Nope, in 100 years it will be 2007, so it will be 2/3/4 07. Michael -Original Message- From: DCFluX [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 12:18:52 To:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] RE: Don't miss it Wouldn't it happen again in exactly 100 years? On 4/3/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Original Message Subject: RE: Don't miss it Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 10:37:36 -0700 On Wednesday of this week, at two minutes and three seconds after 1:00 in the morning, the time and date will be 01:02:03 04/05/06. That won't ever happen again. You may now return to your (normal ?) life. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Radio Shack store closings
I'm not sure how the stores near you are, but the Radio Shacks in the NE IL, SW WI area are EXTREMELY limited in parts they carry. Chris Zeman N9XCR - Original Message - From: Lee Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 10:10 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Radio Shack store closings Radio Shack just announced the closing of 400 or so stores including 4 in the Erie,Pa area. I know,they arent a premier parts store,but another blow to us who build...73,lee,N3APP Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Failure to communicate.....
lol I really needed a good laugh this morning. Sar far, I've gotten several. hehehehe Chris N9XCR - Original Message - From: Bob M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 5:51 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Failure to communicate. Hams that already know everything... I think I've met a couple of those. They're the ones who tell you to scrape all that ugly protective copper coating off the 1/2 inch Heliax before you solder the center pin onto it. They're the ones that tell you All the connectors on that thing over there were loose, so I tightened them all up for you and then you find out that that thing was the hybrid ring duplexer on 2 meters, and the connectors were the tuning rods that are now all the way down into the cavities. They're the ones that tell you to put two 100 watt amplifiers in series so you get 200 watts to the antenna. Yup, know-it-alls. Speaking of failures to communicate, I was at a VE session the other night. A person came in for a code test. She was given the piece of scrap paper and a pencil, and proceeded to write down the Morse code as she copied it: -.-. --.- -.. . for the entire length of the test tape. Yup, a sheet full of dots and dashes. Then she went back and translated each Morse character to it's appropriate letter, number, or punctuation. She commented that she hoped there were no numbers on the test. After 45 minutes, she was still grumbling about not having everything right, but I don't know how she knew; I left after that. I hope she didn't pass. This was the 2nd person who copied Morse code this way. Sort of defeats the purpose of translating it on-the-fly so you can have a real QSO. Imagine if someone sent you a message, and you took an hour to decode it, then had to send a reply back. First, the other person would have long gone elsewhere. Second, the band conditions would have probably changed and you could no longer even hear the other person. Our VE group had decided after the first person did this, that we weren't going to allow it again. Unfortunately the person administering the code test never said anything about it prior to the test nor during it, so we were stuck with it. The VE groups should make a policy ruling about this. OK, enough. I just had to add my $0.02 worth too. Glad I don't know everything. Bob M. == --- Steve Bosshard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds like some of us 'elmers' may not be imparting information very well. At Ham Coffee the other morning a ham that operates HF, did not have a clue what a beverage antenna was. Maybe a matter of not imparting knowledge effectively, OR a matter of hams that already know everything. Steve NU5D -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nate Duehr Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 12:21 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] dumb as mud JOHN MACKEY wrote: I have two new guys hanging out on my repeater system, I think they are coming in on the 2 meter side. They make contact with each other ON THE REPEATER using low power, then switch to high power and ask for signal reports. It's rampant. I'd easily estimate that 1/4 of our members don't really get how a repeater works. You're 20 over 9 here! Nate WY0X -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.10/262 - Release Date: 2/16/2006 Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Failure to communicate.....
It's sad they believe that Techs are going to be the downfall of ham radio. They'll probably never realize that it's attitudes like their's that turn people away. Chris N9XCR - Original Message - From: Dale Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 6:52 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Failure to communicate. Sometimes you wonder how some people get along exist from day to day . When I hear stuff like that on 2 mtr You know where they came from The Chicken Band and are Telling the world without knowing it . They have no idea How a repeater works wouldn't understand if you told them . It isn't only ex CB'ers that are a problem some ole hams are just as bad . A few years ago I went to field day that one of the local clubs put on . I wasn't welcomed but asked what class I was I answered Tec and got a lecture on how no code Tec's Were going to be the down fall of ham radio . So I packed Up my 40 ft almna tower , ant power unit 4000 watt they were using came home . Didn't even bother to tell them that I was A Tec+ at the time . On 2/17/06 6:51 AM, Bob M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hams that already know everything... __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Failure to communicate.....
I don't think the downfall is going to be any particular class of license. I could have been MUCH clearer in my previous post. Poor attitudes from members of all license classes will play a big part in it. The amateurs who display an obvious lack of technical knowledge will also play a role. I'm referring to the basic skills all amateurs should know. I've been out of the hobby for about 10 years, and I've realized as I start building my station again that I've forgotten a few things, but I certainly haven't forgotten the basics. That said, one of the first things I learned when going for my license originally is that you should listen for a while to gain a familiarity with operating practices. The individuals that were discussed in a related thread that didn't appear to understand how repeaters work are prime examples of why new operators should listen for a while. Perhaps they wanted to know how well they were getting into the machine. I'd be willing to give them the benefit of the doubt having not heard them myself, but their style of calling each other on the air was obviously not acceptable use of the repeater. I've been doing a lot of listening on HF lately. Although I've been inactive (due to no equipment), I upgraded to General a few years ago and have finally started building my station again. Chris N9XCR - Original Message - From: Kris Kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 7:41 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Failure to communicate. On Fri, 17 Feb 2006, Christopher Zeman wrote: It's sad they believe that Techs are going to be the downfall of ham radio. They'll probably never realize that it's attitudes like their's that turn people away. Now, we all know the downfall of ham radio will be the 20WPM Extras *ducks* -- Kris Kirby, KE4AHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU! This message brought to you by the US Department of Homeland Security Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] dumb as mud
I guess I am still waiting for the one that wires an echo mike to his icom IC-27H. I'm surprised that hasn't happened yet myself. I will admit, however, that I would be rolling on the floor laughing harder than I have in a long time. Just the thought of it has me laughing my you-know-what off! Chris N9XCR - Original Message - From: Jay Urish [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 8:26 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] dumb as mud I guess this is Off Topic(tm) But I have to agree, I am seeing more of the CB'ers getting licensed and showing up on 2m. Here in Denton we have lidiot that I have finally given up on that just cannot figure out how to say his own callsign. He chronically quick keys and cuts himself off.. Now I am a fair and balanced elmer type and I have spend tons of time with this guy over the phone and finally just with on-air elmering and he just doesn't get it. So what do you do? Most of the old timers won't even talk to him anymore. I guess the hope is that he will just go away. I guess I am still waiting for the one that wires an echo mike to his icom IC-27H.. Kris Kirby wrote: On Thu, 16 Feb 2006, Nate Duehr wrote: It's rampant. I'd easily estimate that 1/4 of our members don't really get how a repeater works. You're 20 over 9 here! I think I've heard something similar on the air here; one station was doing the drawn-out calling that you'd do for a contest working a station in the mud over a repeater. I hope someone clues him in.. If I get a chance next time, I'll pull him off-line and chat with him. Self-policing... I know that I probably violate a lot of what I was taught, but there is something to using a little procedure; it makes things a little more professional, even if the professional radio operator is a endangered species. -- Jay Urish W5GM DCARA President ARRL Life Member Denton County ARRL VEC N5ERS VP/Trustee Monitoring 1292.30Ghz PL-100.0 441.375 PL-88.5 and 444.850 PL-88.5 Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Failure to communicate.....
Thank you! :) Chris N9XCR - Original Message - From: Jim B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 8:26 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Failure to communicate. Christopher Zeman wrote: I don't think the downfall is going to be any particular class of license. I could have been MUCH clearer in my previous post. Poor attitudes from members of all license classes will play a big part in it. The amateurs who display an obvious lack of technical knowledge will also play a role. I'm referring to the basic skills all amateurs should know. I've been out of the hobby for about 10 years, and I've realized as I start building my station again that I've forgotten a few things, but I certainly haven't forgotten the basics. That said, one of the first things I learned when going for my license originally is that you should listen for a while to gain a familiarity with operating practices. The individuals that were discussed in a related thread that didn't appear to understand how repeaters work are prime examples of why new operators should listen for a while. Perhaps they wanted to know how well they were getting into the machine. I'd be willing to give them the benefit of the doubt having not heard them myself, but their style of calling each other on the air was obviously not acceptable use of the repeater. I've been doing a lot of listening on HF lately. Although I've been inactive (due to no equipment), I upgraded to General a few years ago and have finally started building my station again. Chris N9XCR Nicely said, Chris!!! -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Visio Schematics (Was Using Visio for Rack Planning)
I've used AutoCAD for several years now. I drew several equipment racks last and inserted DXF's of various equipment, amplifiers, network devices, etc. Things are a little tougher when CAD drawings for various pieces of equipment don't exist, but people would post what they have into the Files area of the various radio groups, we could build a collection. :) That goes for any template files for any program, such as AutoCAD or Visio. Have fun! Chris N9XCR - Original Message - From: Dave VanHorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 11:53 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Visio Schematics (Was Using Visio for Rack Planning) Another option would be to go to a site like http://www.symbols.net/electrical/ and dump the .gifs into Visio and add connectors for easier wire routing. Hmm.. Ransom note schematics :) Also, Orcad has a demo version available for download that should work great if all you want to do is draw schematics. It's here: EWW.. EEEVIL.. I have a $10,000 licenced copy of capture, and layout. It's in a pile with the excess AOL disks. I've used orcad since '87. I still do. I run the LAST non-windows version they made. I also run the dos-orcad group on yahoo. A surprising number of people have tried the new stuff, and given up on it. No, what I'm after is planning the mechanical layout. I have done some faked versions with visio, stretching rack panels to the size I need, which is good enough, but I'd like to do some templates that actually look like the gear in question, to help me plan cable lengths and wire routing. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
