Re: [Repeater-Builder] MASTR II LOW BAND TUNING

[James Cicirello]

Good thoughts Chuck.
I never thought about the two patterns.
I have to check and make sure I have your Freq. programmed into my mobile.

73 JIM  KA2AJH


On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 5:32 PM, Chuck Kelsey  wrote:

>
>
> I'd certainly try single site since you've got the reject filters. It's
> certainly easier to manage than split site. With split site, in the hills we
> have around here, you are going to get two different coverage areas - one
> for TX and another for RX. If it were flatter, it wouldn't make a big
> difference, at least in my opinion. You'll want to back the power down and
> put fans on it since it's a mobile. I also prefer to tune the antenna to
> favor the TX.
>
> Chuck
> WB2EDV
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* James Cicirello 
> *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Monday, July 05, 2010 5:19 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] MASTR II LOW BAND TUNING
>
> Hi Again Eric,
>
> When you get a chance will you look at these duplexers and give me your
> opinion?
> http://www.radiodata.com/fiplex/products/PDFs/DHV05.pdf
>
> The duplexer I got with the repeater is the Model DHV-0544.( THE 533 has
> been discontinued)
>  The way I am reading their specs it is 90 dB at 1 MHz,
> Anyone else wish to comment, Chuck you have some 6 meter machines too.
> I just got these from the owner today and am looking for advice, opinions,
> etc.
> This is a new product that he spent a lot of bucks on, so I am looking for
> opinions, anybody that may have experience with these duplexers, to include
> a split site Vs these duplexers.
>
> Thanks all
>
> 73 JIM   KA2AJH  Wellsville, N.Y.
>
> On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Eric Lemmon  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Jim,
>>
>> A low-band repeater with a flat-pack duplexer having 90 dB of isolation?
>> That's amazing! My low-band repeater uses four 12" diameter cans that each
>> stand about five feet tall.
>>
>> Your MC74AAU33A radio is an M-series 100 watt mobile radio, covered by
>> PC-61
>> here:
>> <
>> www.repeater-builder.com/ge/product-code-indexes/index-pc61-mastr-ii-m-seri
>> es-mobiles.pdf>
>>
>> The transmitter tuning information is covered in LBI-4898, available at
>> the
>> link I gave you earlier. It is not a full-page version, but it will have
>> to
>> do until we can borrow a paper copy to scan. If any readers of this list
>> have a clean and complete original LBI-4898 that we can borrow for
>> full-page
>> scanning, please contact me directly at mycall at verizon dot net.
>>
>>
>> 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>> [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com]
>> On Behalf Of James Cicirello
>> Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 9:54 AM
>> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] MASTR II LOW BAND TUNING
>>
>> Hi Eric,
>> First thanks you for pointing me to the manuals and Don for the NHRC
>> Tuning
>> site.
>> Eric the combination numbers are MC74AAU33A. They came from a trucking
>> company and I think they are on 47.XXX. I am taking over the Wellsville
>> 53.090 Repeater as the original owner is re-locating. He has a custom
>> built
>> repeater MASTR II from Repeater Builder going thru a rack mount flat pack
>> duplexer with about 90 Db of isolation, but there is also 2 Db of receiver
>> loss thru the cans. I have two sites 6 miles apart and I want to try split
>> sites using the above mentioned GE as the TX and use the HOT RX on the
>> custom Repeater for the RX. I am in hopes that all I have to do is tune
>> the
>> TX and hook it to the link radio.
>>
>> 73 JIM KA2AJH
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Eric Lemmon 
>> 
>> <mailto:wb6...@verizon.net > > wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Jim,
>>
>> Perhaps you are not aware that Repeater-Builder has a huge index of
>> General
>> Electric manuals. Just look at any "Description & Maintenance"
>> manual for a
>> low-band radio to get the tuning instructions. Since you did not
>> specify
>> exactly which low-band radio you have, any of these LBIs will
>> probably get
>> you going:
>> > <http://www.repeater-builder.com/ge/lbi-library/lbi-4896.pdf> >
>>
>> > <http://www.repeater-builder.com/ge/lbi-library/lbi-4898g.pdf> >
>>
>> > <http://www.repeater-builder.com/ge/lbi-library/lbi-30104b.pdf> >
>>
>> > <http://www.repeater-builde

Re: [Repeater-Builder] MASTR II LOW BAND TUNING

[James Cicirello]

Hi Again Eric,

When you get a chance will you look at these duplexers and give me your
opinion?
http://www.radiodata.com/fiplex/products/PDFs/DHV05.pdf

The duplexer I got with the repeater is the Model DHV-0544.( THE 533 has
been discontinued)
 The way I am reading their specs it is 90 dB at 1 MHz,
Anyone else wish to comment, Chuck you have some 6 meter machines too.
I just got these from the owner today and am looking for advice, opinions,
etc.
This is a new product that he spent a lot of bucks on, so I am looking for
opinions, anybody that may have experience with these duplexers, to include
a split site Vs these duplexers.

Thanks all

73 JIM   KA2AJH  Wellsville, N.Y.

On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Eric Lemmon  wrote:

>
>
> Jim,
>
> A low-band repeater with a flat-pack duplexer having 90 dB of isolation?
> That's amazing! My low-band repeater uses four 12" diameter cans that each
> stand about five feet tall.
>
> Your MC74AAU33A radio is an M-series 100 watt mobile radio, covered by
> PC-61
> here:
> <
> www.repeater-builder.com/ge/product-code-indexes/index-pc61-mastr-ii-m-seri
> es-mobiles.pdf>
>
> The transmitter tuning information is covered in LBI-4898, available at the
> link I gave you earlier. It is not a full-page version, but it will have to
> do until we can borrow a paper copy to scan. If any readers of this list
> have a clean and complete original LBI-4898 that we can borrow for
> full-page
> scanning, please contact me directly at mycall at verizon dot net.
>
>
> 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of James Cicirello
> Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 9:54 AM
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] MASTR II LOW BAND TUNING
>
> Hi Eric,
> First thanks you for pointing me to the manuals and Don for the NHRC Tuning
> site.
> Eric the combination numbers are MC74AAU33A. They came from a trucking
> company and I think they are on 47.XXX. I am taking over the Wellsville
> 53.090 Repeater as the original owner is re-locating. He has a custom built
> repeater MASTR II from Repeater Builder going thru a rack mount flat pack
> duplexer with about 90 Db of isolation, but there is also 2 Db of receiver
> loss thru the cans. I have two sites 6 miles apart and I want to try split
> sites using the above mentioned GE as the TX and use the HOT RX on the
> custom Repeater for the RX. I am in hopes that all I have to do is tune the
> TX and hook it to the link radio.
>
> 73 JIM KA2AJH
>
> On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Eric Lemmon 
> 
> <mailto:wb6...@verizon.net > > wrote:
>
>
>
> Jim,
>
> Perhaps you are not aware that Repeater-Builder has a huge index of
> General
> Electric manuals. Just look at any "Description & Maintenance"
> manual for a
> low-band radio to get the tuning instructions. Since you did not
> specify
> exactly which low-band radio you have, any of these LBIs will
> probably get
> you going:
>  <http://www.repeater-builder.com/ge/lbi-library/lbi-4896.pdf> >
>
>  <http://www.repeater-builder.com/ge/lbi-library/lbi-4898g.pdf> >
>
>  <http://www.repeater-builder.com/ge/lbi-library/lbi-30104b.pdf> >
>
>  <http://www.repeater-builder.com/ge/lbi-library/lbi-30293a.pdf> >
>
>
> Please be aware that even a high-split (33 range) radio may need
> modification to perform well in the Amateur 6m band. What is the
> Combination Number of the radio you want to tune?
>
> 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
>
> [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
> ] On Behalf Of James
> Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 3:46 PM
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
> <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
>
> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] MASTR II LOW BAND TUNING
>
> Hi Guys,
> Is there a link to tuning a low band mastr II? I have googled and
> find all
> kinds of VHF High and UHF but not Mastr II Low. I want to tune to
> six
> meters.
>
> Thanks JIM KA2AJH
>
>
>
> --
> KA2AJH
> Jim Cicirello
> 181 Stevens Street
> Wellsville, N.Y. 14895
> (585)593-4655
>
>  
>



-- 
KA2AJH
Jim Cicirello
181 Stevens Street
Wellsville, N.Y. 14895
(585)593-4655

Re: [Repeater-Builder] MASTR II LOW BAND TUNING

[James Cicirello]

Hi Eric,
First thanks you for pointing me to the manuals and Don for the NHRC Tuning
site.
Eric the combination numbers are MC74AAU33A. They came from a trucking
company and I think they are on 47.XXX. I am taking over the Wellsville
53.090 Repeater as the original owner is re-locating. He has a custom built
repeater MASTR II from Repeater Builder going thru a rack mount flat pack
duplexer with about 90 Db of isolation, but there is also 2 Db of receiver
loss thru the cans. I have two sites 6 miles apart and  I want to try split
sites using the above mentioned GE as the TX and use the HOT RX on the
custom Repeater for the RX. I am in hopes that all I have to do is tune the
TX and hook it to the link radio.

73 JIM  KA2AJH

On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Eric Lemmon  wrote:

>
>
> Jim,
>
> Perhaps you are not aware that Repeater-Builder has a huge index of General
> Electric manuals. Just look at any "Description & Maintenance" manual for a
> low-band radio to get the tuning instructions. Since you did not specify
> exactly which low-band radio you have, any of these LBIs will probably get
> you going:
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
> Please be aware that even a high-split (33 range) radio may need
> modification to perform well in the Amateur 6m band. What is the
> Combination Number of the radio you want to tune?
>
> 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of James
> Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 3:46 PM
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] MASTR II LOW BAND TUNING
>
> Hi Guys,
> Is there a link to tuning a low band mastr II? I have googled and find all
> kinds of VHF High and UHF but not Mastr II Low. I want to tune to six
> meters.
>
> Thanks JIM KA2AJH
>
>  
>



-- 
KA2AJH
Jim Cicirello
181 Stevens Street
Wellsville, N.Y. 14895
(585)593-4655

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor COS issues.... continuing

[James Cicirello]

Hi Josh,
Instead of resistors, try diodes in series. Each Diode will drop your
voltage. I have series a couple to get rid of standing voltage, especially
if you are down to a half volt or so.

73 JIM

On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Josh  wrote:

>
>
> I've been fighting this issue for a while now. I've tried some bandaids to
> deal with it, tried multiple repeater controllers (including one I designed
> myself with an ATMEGA328 Microcontroller (I'll probably be releasing this
> design as open source coming up)... and I'm fighting the same problem
> everywhere... My micor COS signal is weird.
>
> When the squelch is closed, I get right around 8 volts, taken from pin 8 of
> the modified mobile audio/squelch board - the tried and true process just
> about everybody uses. When the squelch opens, I'm at not ground
> potential, but right about half a volt. This isnt really the sort of logic
> signal I want (I want this thing to be dead nuts zero, not half a volt).
>
> What is the deal here?
>
> I've tried adding resistors in series to fudge things and cause voltage
> drop, but thats not really even working that well. I've tried the 2n
> circuit, but that doesnt really have a lot to do with this (although a
> variation of that might come into play I suspect)
>
> How do I best solve this so I can get my repeater on the air?? This is very
> close to the last issue I have remaining to solve.
>
> Help / advice is greatly appreciated.
>
> Josh
>
>  
>



-- 
Jim Cicirello
181 Stevens Street
Wellsville, N.Y. 14895
(585)593-4655

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: CTCSS Encoder/Decoder

[James Cicirello]

Thanks to all who have shared their comments and experience on the LM567 for
CTCSS Encode and Decode. I have many ideas to work with now and in the
future.
You have all given me several ways to go from Skips comments on how to
prefect the 567 to
Ken and Jeff's recommendations on the CML Micro MX IC's.

Again this group is the best resource for Amateur Radio Information
available anywhere.

Thanks to all who has taken the time to share information.

73 JIM  KA2AJH  Wellsville, NY

On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 11:13 AM, skipp025  wrote:

>
>
> Hi Chuck,
>
> > "Chuck Kelsey"  wrote:
> > Skipp,
> > I suspect that you were the exception rather than the
> > rule, then.
>
> I'm often told the above... for more than one reason. Why
> some of you are smiling sideways when you say that is another
> subject unto itself.
>
> > To me there are better ways to do it than a 567.
>
> Sure there are... but back in the early 1980's I had a lot
> more time than pocket money so I built a lot more discrete
> circuits and the 567 was pretty inexpensive.
>
> > I remember playing with various 567 circuits back in the
> > 70's. Never could get reliable performance.
>
> I tried a number of different circuits using a lot of the
> different chip available at the time. I didn't have much of a
> problem with the 567 circuit once the support parts stopped
> changing value or I used better quality parts.
>
> > Used them for paging frequencies. Gave up and started
> > using commercial encoders and decoders and never looked
> > back.
>
> Of course when it became time to do things on a more professional
> level... I used more professional equipment. But I built most
> of my early ham repeater controllers from scratch.
>
> > Maybe you can give the guy some guidance to get some
> > stability and choke down the bandwidth so that adjacent
> > tones don't false the thing.
> > Chuck
>
> Rather than reinvent the wheel... I provided a real world CTCSS
> circuit references for those who would actually care to chase
> that information down.
>
> There are more practical methods to decode CTCSS... but the
> NE-567 or equivalent will do the job. As Jeff said, yes it
> is "old school" but at least it is possible to use the chip
> for the cause.
>
> cheers,
> s.
>
>  
>



-- 
Jim Cicirello
181 Stevens Street
Wellsville, N.Y. 14895
(585)593-4655

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Encoder/Decoder

[James Cicirello]

Hi Gordon,
Most in my area like the duplexers made by TX RX Systems Inc.
www.txrx.com
I have several sets VHF and UHF in commercial and Amateur use. I have one
set that has been on my VHF Repeater for almost 20 years and has never been
touched and are still on spec. Customer Service is available by calling and
asking for Mary Brown. She came up through the ranks in the factory and can
tune a duplexer as good as anyone and is now taking questions and wants from
the customers.

Good luck.JIM   KA2AJH

On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 10:51 PM, Gordon Cooper  wrote:

>
>
> Was looking for something else in an old ARRL Handies & found the
> comment that "the 567 requires high quality capacitors to maintain
> stability".
>
> On another subject, any advice on purchasing duplexers for 2 metres?
> Our local supplier has closed down and such items are like hens teeth
> here Down Under.
>
> Cheers,
> Gordon ZL1KL
> Tauranga
> New Zealand.
>  
>



-- 
Jim Cicirello
181 Stevens Street
Wellsville, N.Y. 14895
(585)593-4655

Re: [Repeater-Builder] CTCSS Encoder/Decoder

[James Cicirello]

Hi Ted and Stan,
It all started with new hams and old 2-meter rigs w/o PL. I bought a couple
of TD-1 Ramsey Kits to get the Hams into the local repeater. The kits were
not stable so we started to experiment, thinking it would be nice to improve
on the CTCSS Tone filter in the TS-32 which we have many of, and build a
encoder/decoder board with the new and improved filter on it. There are
several enc/dec  units available, we just thought it may be fun to build a
few boards and save a few bucks, but found the 567 didn't work like many
articles said it should. We then started looking for JUST THE
ENCODER/DECODER chips, but it appears that most chips are from the UK. Just
experimenting guys.

On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Stanley Stanukinos wrote:

>
>
>  I must be missing something, there are several MFG of encoders/decoders
> still around. You are correct on the stability issue. You will find it much
> less frustrating to just buy off the shelf or get the one for your radio
> than trying to build one that is stable. Oh there is the  cost of the new
> ones so that has to be figured  in.
>
>
>
> Stan
>
>
>
> *From:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
> repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *James
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 06, 2010 9:36 AM
>
> *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* [Repeater-Builder] CTCSS Encoder/Decoder
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Guys,
>
> We have been experimenting with building CTCSS Units using the 567 Tone
> Chip and good components, i.e. Caps, multi turn pots etc. The stability is
> not good in my opinion. We will set it to 107.2 and the next time you check
> it is off enough to where it won't decode until it is re-tuned slightly. I
> am wondering what your experiences may have been with this CTCSS Chip. Many
> articles say they work well with the addition of a stable voltage regulator,
> so we added a five volt regulator, no difference in stability. Any comments
> and experiences with this and other chips would be appreciated. The
> availability of CTCSS Chips seems limited.
>
>   
>



-- 
Jim Cicirello
181 Stevens Street
Wellsville, N.Y. 14895
(585)593-4655

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Trojan Horse

[James Cicirello]

It is fine now Scott, loads the first time.

Thanks for finding the problem.

JIM  KA2AJH

On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Scott Zimmerman  wrote:

>
>
> Those that were having issues, please try it again. I think I found the
> bad code. (I'm not sure how it got there) I'd like a few people to check
> and see if there are still issues.
>
> Thanks,
> Scott
>
> Scott Zimmerman
> Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
> 474 Barnett Road
> Boswell, PA 15531
>
>
> George Henry wrote:
> > It only appears on the "front end" page, www.repeater-builder.com ...
> where I have never seen a banner ad appear before. If you go directly to the
> technical information page, www.repeater-builder.com/rbtip , no problem.
> (that's the page I have saved in my favorites, anyway)
> >
> >
> >
> > George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413
> >
> >
> >> From: Doug Bade >
> >> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> >> Sent: Mon, April 12, 2010 10:56:10 AM
> >> Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Trojan Horse
> >>
> >>
> >> Avast went RED here too.. I have never seen it do that… Blocked a Trojan
> on connect.. dropped the site… not from google search.. direct from the
> hyperlink Jim posted…I would say it is real..
> >>
> >> Doug
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From:Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogro
> ups.com] On Behalf Of James Cicirello
> >> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 11:52 AM
> >> To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com
> >> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Trojan Horse
> >>
> >>
> >> Kevin and moderators.
> >> I have been reading about problems getting onto repeater-builder. com.
> This morning my Avast flagged the site with the following.
> >> Malware, JS:llredir.AO tr TROGAN HORSE VPS Verision 100412-0, 4/12/2010.
> You probably already have the info. but wanted to make sure.
> >> KA2AJH
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jim Cicirello
> >> 181 Stevens Street
> >> Wellsville, N.Y. 14895
> >> (585)593-4655
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>  
>



-- 
Jim Cicirello
181 Stevens Street
Wellsville, N.Y. 14895
(585)593-4655

[Repeater-Builder] Trojan Horse

[James Cicirello]

Kevin and moderators.
I have been reading about problems getting onto repeater-builder.com. This
morning my Avast flagged the site with the following.
Malware, JS:llredir.AO tr   TROGAN HORSE VPS Verision 100412-0,  4/12/2010.
You probably already have the info. but wanted to make sure.
KA2AJH

-- 
Jim Cicirello
181 Stevens Street
Wellsville, N.Y. 14895
(585)593-4655

Re: [Repeater-Builder] crimping assistance please

[James Cicirello]

Hi Albert,
Do a Google search for THREE BLADE COAXIAL STRIPPERS. I just bought two pair
from the ELECTRICAL TOOL STORE.COM for $10.50 each. They make a two blade
tool also, but it does not do the complete job. After taking some RG/58,
RG/400 Double Shield, RG/8X etc and just getting the hang of how it works,
it all comes together. For a PL295 Vs a BNC you leave a little extra cable
hanging out the right side of the stripper. All of a sudden I couldn't
believe I had been doing the stripping by hand since I started using crimp
connectors many years ago. I then went and bought one for the RG/8U and
LMR/400 LARGE Cable. Don't use it much but much easier on the hands. The
THREE BLADE for the large 8/U was harder to find but I got one on the web by
searching for about $16.00.
I think you will be happy, I am.
GOOD LUCK///JIMKA2AJH

On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 11:51 PM, hitekgearhead
wrote:

>
>
> I know this has been thrown around a bit before but I could use a little
> assistance.
>
> I just purchased a crimper and a couple sets of dies. I bought some cheap
> BNC and TNC connectors to practice with along with some RG-58A/U cable.
>
> I bought 3 different sets of dies. One of which is for RG-8 size connectors
> so I am not really concerned with that yet. The other two dies have hex
> crimp sizes of .324, .255, .215, .100, .068 and .215, .184, .068, .042
> Obviously these two dies duplicate the .215 and .068 sizes.
>
> Basically I am not sure what size hex to use for the above stated RG-58A/U
> and BNC and TNC connectors.
>
> Also, I have a question regarding stripping the cable. I am not going to be
> doing high volumes of cables, but probably will be doing them on different
> size of coax. Would you recommend a stripper or will a razor knife suffice.
>
> Lastly, and relating to the coax strippers: Don't different connectors,
> even on the same type/size of coax, need different stripping lengths? This
> would probably translate into quite a few different strippers for different
> cables and connectors, no?
>
> Thanks
> Albert
>
>  
>

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Slightly OT: How are folks taking audio from multiple mobile radios and outputting them to one speaker?

[James Cicirello]

Mike,
If you decide to combine, make sure you look at the speaker circuit on each
radio.The Spectra for example will smoke if you take it to ground. You would
want to use a 1: 1: Transformer to isolate it unless you have a good
combiner circuit.After asking the same questions you are asking, I decided
on three speakers mounted on the side of the center console. Two years ago
next month I was at Dayton and had a vendor who was selling speakers put
audio into different size speakers. I then took the three SMALLEST I thought
I could like with. Much better than the built in speakers.
Goood Luck.JIM

-- 
Jim Cicirello
181 Stevens Street
Wellsville, N.Y. 14895
(585)593-4655

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor

[James Cicirello]

APRIL 1ST PRICE? If we could afford one we would be FOOL not to buy one.

JIM   KA2AJH

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 11:11 AM, Joe  wrote:

>
>
> Excellent radio and specs! This should put GE, RCA, Aerotron, all all
> the other big names out of business. For once the Motorola bean
> counters got their act together and supported this great product.
>
> 73, Joe, k1ike
>
> > Kevin Custer wrote:
> >
> >> Bob Meister has written a nice article on the Molotora Gontor for RB.
> >> http://www.repeater-builder.com/molotora/gontor/gontor.html
> >> 
> >>
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-- 
Jim Cicirello
181 Stevens Street
Wellsville, N.Y. 14895
(585)593-4655

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Pion and Simon

[James Cicirello]

Their web site says:

We can be reached by sending mail to one of the addresses listed below:

*Postal address:* PO Box 23651, Tigard, OR 97281

*Electronic mail*

  Al Pion 

  Elizabeth Simon 


I use there product and am very happy, especially with the service I
received from Al.


Good Luck  JIM   KA2AJH


On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 4:29 PM, John J. Riddell wrote:

>
>
> It was ordered directly from their web site and paid for by Paypal.
>
> John VE3AMZ
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* La Rue Communications 
> *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 10, 2010 4:13 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] Pion and Simon
>
> Was it bought on eBay? Post the item number / link. I'd like to see this.
> Ian has a good point, although its called BUYER protection. Seller
> protection works the same way, but for sellers. Just my OCD kicking in.
>
> John Hymes
> La Rue Communications
> 10 S. Aurora Street
> Stockton, CA 95202
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* va...@securenet.net
> *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 10, 2010 12:20 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] Pion and Simon
>
>
>
> John
>
> If you paid them on paypal, and it hasnt been 45 days yet since the
> transaction, institute a paypal chargeback. You can do this if you havent
> been given any valid tracking number on your item.
>
> This should get someone's attention on the other end.
>
> If after 30 days (i think) paypal will credit you your expense.  its called
> seller protection.
>
> Paypal has a toll free number that works from Canada, so give them a call
> for details.
>
> Good luck
>
> Ian
> VA2IR
>
>
> At 03:14 PM 3/10/2010, you wrote:
>
>
>
> I ordered a Pion and Simon PSE 508-3 controller and have not received it
> yet here in Florida.
> They don't answer E mails and I can't find a telephone number for that
> company.
>
> Does anyone know their tel number ?
>
> Are they still in business ?
>
> 541-273-8958 does not work..This is the number shown on Paypal.
>
>
> 73 John VE3AMZ
>
>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version: 8.5.436 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2734 - Release Date: 03/10/10
> 07:33:00
>
>   
>



-- 
Jim Cicirello
181 Stevens Street
Wellsville, N.Y. 14895
(585)593-4655

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Amphenol Connex RF connectors

[James Cicirello]

IMHO Amphenol Connectors are hard to beat and I personally do not know of
any better. Especially when it comes to adapters they will outlast the
cheapies many times over. Even when they discolor because of years of
service, they still work good. Having said that I shop economy because of
ham use, but it depends on where I put the connectors that makes me choose
the quality. If you are going to hire a climber to put up an antenna you
want the best connector or adapter in the air and again I believe that would
be Amphenol.

Good Luck JIM   KA2AJH

On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 1:05 PM, la88y  wrote:

>
>
> Anyone care to comment on the quality of the Amphenol Connex line of RF
> connectors? They have a pretty good price point, but only if they aren't
> junk.
>
> lh
>
>  
>



-- 
Jim Cicirello
181 Stevens Street
Wellsville, N.Y. 14895
(585)593-4655

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Interference

[James Cicirello]

I have a 1KW 103.5 FM Station on the same tower as my 147.21 Repeater. I
cleared most of my SAME problems up with a circulator on the 7.21
transmitter and Ferrite Snap On's on any exposed audio line to the repeater.
NOW that being said, the FM Station is using large good quality hardline.
They had a bad jumper from the Hardline to the Transmitter and when that was
replaced the interference was reduced. Now I have installed a 440 Repeater
and suddenly I am hearing  the FM on the tail of UHF so again I will be
trying the same things. Good Luck.

73 JIM  Wellsville  KA2AJH

On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 8:56 AM, Leroy A. M. Baptiste <
leroybapti...@spiceisle.com> wrote:

>
>
>  Hello all, I am having some interference problems, it is coming from an
> FM transmitter on 94.500MHz, and getting into the Amateur Radio repeater’s
> receiver on 146.1600MHz. It is not there all the time, but when the repeater
> is keyed up, you can hear it getting in. The 2 Meter repeater is fed with
> heliax cable from the duplexer to the antenna, the transmission line on the
> FM station is ordinary coaxial cable, the power output is about 300 Watts,
> any ideas?
>
>
>
> Leroy.   J39AI
>  
>



-- 
Jim Cicirello
181 Stevens Street
Wellsville, N.Y. 14895
(585)593-4655

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Split Site Via Coax Cables & Wire?

[James Cicirello]

I wouldn't even consider wire for audio, PTT. Even with a solar site. a
handi talkie on UHF, operating a few mw's would be much better and would
handle the Audio and PTT. Another HT on the TX end would complete your CAS,
PTT, TX,RX Audio.

73 JIM

On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 11:16 AM, thornwal  wrote:

>
>
>
> I was thinking about setting up a 2m repeater without duplexers. I have
> lots of space (1,000+ft) at my home QTH (600ft HAAT) but I would like to do
> it without a RF link. I was going to use a solar panel & 12v battery for the
> RX side (out in the middle of our pasture) and have the TX at our house with
> AC power.
>
> Could one use coax for audio and wire for COS/PTT? Or would there be too
> much loss/noise at those distances.
>
> If I had the TX ant 20ft above the RX ant. how do you calculate the min.
> horizontal distance needed? How much isolation is typically needed?
>
> tnx, Greg KD3SU
>
>  
>



-- 
Jim Cicirello
181 Stevens Street
Wellsville, N.Y. 14895
(585)593-4655

Re: [Repeater-Builder] RE: follow up on lightening strike last spring

[James Cicirello]

Rich, you didn't mention the antenna, cable and jumpers. What did you do
there?

JIM

On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Richard  wrote:

>
>
> I know its been a long time since I first posed the question on what might
> be causing the noise we were experiencing after being hit by lightening.
> After many trips to the Technical shop for testing, we replaced the repeater
> ( was a vertex 5000, now a Icom ur2000) and are in process of checking out
> controllers. The duplexers were my big worry. And yes, it would seem that
> concern wasn't unfounded. We started experiencing a degradation on the
> receive side of the repeater and then, a leakage from the cans. We had the
> duplexers checked out with two different service monitors and found nothing!
> The technician who works on duplexers took ours apart and found only a
> little bit of carbon, but that was it. they checked out ok. We put them back
> into service and the noise was there making communications impossible.
> We are now going to replace them with a 6 configuration instead of the four
> we have been using.
> My question to the list is, besides the noise factor and crackling noise,
> is there any other methode of discovering if the can's are bad or not?
> Yes, I did and have been losing sleep over this one.
>
> I also wish to thank Kevin and the group for all their feedback on my
> question I put in last summer. You helped more than you know.
>
> Rich Ranta K8JX
> www.w8usa.org
>
>  
>



-- 
Jim Cicirello
181 Stevens Street
Wellsville, N.Y. 14895
(585)593-4655