RE: [Repeater-Builder] dispatch centers run through the internet

2010-01-04 Thread Randy Ross
Given the inherit instability of the internet (it was NEVER designed to do what 
we are doing with it), I would consider any communications system which is 
reliant upon the internet to be flawed by design and completely untrustworthy.

My two cents worth.

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Yes, and they are called Intranets.

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From: Kevin Custermailto:kug...@kuggie.com
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The Internet is a shared medium. A private WAN/LAN commonly utilizes
fiber optic cable or licensed wireless networking to accomplish
connectivity. While private systems can deliver Internet, it is not
(necessarily) THE Internet. Privately owned facilities like what many
CATV, Phone, Internet, and combinations of them can have dark fiber or
reserved virtual space that cannot get clogged with Internet overhead.
The bottlenecking you might experience with facilities you cannot (do
not) control can (will) be the downfall of such a system - unless a SLA
can be gotten. A SLA is a service level agreement in which a company
guarantees connectivity - to some degree. The more reliability the
agreement extends - the higher the cost.

Kevin Custer

 Jed Barton wrote:
 tell me about this system a little bit.


 You'll note that the manufacturer is not suggesting that you utilize the
 Internet for this device. It is marketed for use on a private LAN/WAN.

 Chuck
 WB2EDV



[Repeater-Builder] Maybe a strange question...

2009-10-15 Thread Randy Ross
Our repeater is coordinated on a given two meter frequency.  Due to terrain and 
other factors, we were forced to agree to some interference from a neighboring 
repeater, on the same frequency.  The neighboring repeater is located on a peak 
roughly 100 miles away from us, and roughly 1800 feet higher in elevation.  The 
repeater owner claims an ERP of 55 watts from an omni, however, I can 
consistently hear that repeater on my base at my QTH with an s-1 to s-3.

I am transmitting 50w, 2dB loss in connectors, about 1.25 dB loss in feedline 
and about +6.5 dBi in antenna gain.  So, I figure my ERP should be about 100 
watts (+3dB = double in power, right).  My antenna height is about 35 feet.

So, as a newbie, I am assuming that if I can hear him at s-3, and he is 
transmitting 55w ERP, where my ERP is 100w, I should be able to program the 
radio with the proper offset and PL tone and get into the repeater.  Is this a 
correct assumption? After all, if I can consistently hear him, the path is line 
of sight, right?  Due to the difference in altitude, this would make sense.  If 
all else is the same, I should be able to bring the repeater up.  Or, is this 
repeater putting out much more than 55w ERP?


Thanks!