[Repeater-Builder] Re: Notching nearby frequencies

2009-02-13 Thread chartmd83
 Ian,

 What you would like to do is not difficult just may be expensive if
you do not have the filters you would need. 

 You described your situation as you want to receive on 479.350 and
you have a link transmitter on 481.825 on the same or nearby antenna.

 As the 481.825 is a link transmitter you may have better luck putting
a Notch filter on the output of the 481.825 that would notch the
479.350 signal away from 481.825.

 You could stand to loose a few DB on the transmit unless you have a
broad notch filter which would mean you may need more than one to
tighten your notch in favor of 479.350 and allow more pass of the
481.825. This may mean more insertion loss for the 481 transmit so as
long as you can stand to loose the signal then that should adjust the
interfering frequency better.

 As a note you can use Pass as long as there is enough of it and these
get expensive.

 
 Jason









--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Kerincom"  wrote:
>
> Hi guys .Can you clarify something for me .I have a repeater that
receives
> on 479.350 and has a link transmitter on 481.825 and I would like to
filter
> the 481.825 out so it doesn't affect the 479.350. I currently have
between
> the diplexer and the 479.350 receiver -a band pass cavity tuned to
479.350
> and a notch diplexer tuned to notch the 481.825 .
> I am concerned that this is reducing the receiver sensitivity and
feel  I
> would be better to have the band pass between the diplexer and
receiver and
> using a t piece connect the notch to the t piece
> Current setup Diplexer--band pass cavitynotch
diplexerreceiver
> 
> Proposed setup  Diplexer -- band pass cavity ---t piece receiver
>

>Notch
> I will try the proposed setup shortly on on a hp service monitor to
see if I
> am better this way
> 
> Thank You,
> Ian Wells,
> Kerinvale Comaudio,
> 361 Camboon Road.Biloela.4715
> Phone 0749922574 or 0409159932
> www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au
>




[Repeater-Builder] Re: DB4060 Duplexer Cables

2008-10-07 Thread chartmd83
Good Evening Mike,

I'm afraid I agree with Eric,

 The problems you are experiencing are not common, when you stated 
you moved the crystals from the Mark 4 to the spare and are 
experiencing the same result, was this with the same set of cans?

 If it was then try two mobiles on the same set of cans and check for 
desense that way eliminating the Mark 4 and any other Xtal rig you 
are using.

 If your desense is still there after the mobile test then you need a 
tracking generator to go with your spectrum analyser. That will be a 
start in "seeing" where your problem may lie. Anything more than that 
may be a return loss bridge and do a resonance check of the entire 
duplexer.

 If you do not have the access to the equipment, you can always try a 
seperate antenna on the opposite port for the duplexer to determine 
which side, i.e. Rx or Tx is the issue. If you have disassembled the 
cans and are not having much luck then the Tracking generator should 
show you where they are tuned and if they are really giving you a 
problem.

 By the way, what was your Sinad reading on the Rx of the Mark 4. If 
you are having more problems with noise than signal you may have 
found this in your earlier test when you swapped the Xtals and found 
their amplifier stage may be giving you the grief. If you swapped the 
Xtal in the element, versus sending it to a crystal house for 
overhaul, then a cold solder joint makes for all kinds of Rx fun in 
the form of noise.

 I am not 100% on the Mark 4, but if it has an Rx alignment 
procedure, run through that while chasing the Rx board with cold 
spray or a gentle tap during the test and see if your sinad changes 
or your performance changes. Your 8920 will show you that in the 
right range if you have a problem as you look at you Tx signal

 I hope this can help,

 Jason












--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Besemer \(WM4B\)" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I spent the weekend working on a set of DB4060 cans (cleaning and 
retuning)
> and have managed to commit the ultimate stupidity.  I had all the 
harnesses
> off and instead of MARKING them I just laid them out on the bench.
> Unfortunately, the bench got 'cleaned' and the cables are now all 
mixed up.
> 
> 
> I can tell which 2 cables went between the cans and which went to 
the
> T-connector, but all 4-cables are different lengths.  I assume that 
the
> shorter of the two cables go on the TX (high) side of the cans and 
the
> shorter go on the RX (low) side of the cans.  Am I correct?  
> 
> Thanks for the help. next time I'll mark the cables!
> 
> 73,
> 
> Mike
> WM4B
>




[Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola XPR 8300 - Mototrbo Repeater

2008-02-19 Thread chartmd83

 Can anyone say Telario? or Privacy Plus? Try using one of those 
products for an Amateur repeater and I'll give you $1.00. Just about 
as useful. The product is stretching the limits of being a 
supportable product. It fits the other profiles of new radios where 
in this case without a Service monitor that does TDMA, you cannot 
align to 6.25 Khz and see or hear that the unit is to spec's. Just 
another name for D-STAR except this is being launched commercially 
first.

  Jason 



--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Gary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> That's up to two active channels on one frequency pair. I find the 
built in
> controller works fine as a stand alone repeater in either the 
digital or
> analog mode. Even CWID is built in. I agree though that they offer 
little or
> no interfacing but that may change.
> Gary
> 
> Bill Powell wrote:
> 
> > The current MTBO repeaters are pretty much useless except as 
plain old
> > repeaters: they (currently) have NO audio-level (or other) 
interface
> > at all.  This is my BIG objection to using them in Public Safety 
apps:
> > no console level access.  And, as to having the dispatchers access
> > the repeater via a radio - no thanks.
> >
> > OTOH, the local M dealer has been making noises that M will be 
adding
> > a whole raft of features - RSN. Remember: M + Options = 
> >
> > Don't forget: MTBO is a TDMA system w/ 2 "channels" in each box,
> > requiring 2 controllers and a hat full of magic rabbits.
> >
> > Good luck though,
> > Bill - WB1GOT
> >
> > --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Tony L."
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > Any members of this User Group have one of these in service yet?
> > >
> > > Curious to know if interfacing it to an external controller is 
possible
> > > without pulling your hair out (as is the case with the 
MTR2000's).
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>