[Repeater-Builder] Repeater help needed in Western VA
Fellows, I haven't had any volunteers yet, so I thought I would plead again: I am writing on behalf of a customer of mine. He bought a 2M repeater from me and is having trouble getting it going. I think he needs help getting his duplexer tuned and cabled correctly. He seems like a nice enough fellow. He had a fall some time ago that fractured most of his limbs. Needless to say, getting around is difficult. At any rate, he has a decibel products 6-8" cans that he is only getting about 60dB of isolation out of. (A local radio shop tuned them. HIHI) The local guys around him seem incredibly inept when it comes to repeaters. One of them even told him that his repeater was upside down because: "that's not how my radio is programmed!!" (upside down between a mobile and repeater setup) Is there any list member, or does anyone know someone, that is close to Big Stone Gap, VA 24219 that might be able to give this fellow a hand? He looks to be about 2 hours NE of Knoxville. I'm sure reasonable compensation would be offered. I'd help him out myself, but it's a 7 hour drive for me. Let me know if you'd be willing to give it a shot and I'll put you in contact with the gentleman directly. Thanks, Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531
[Repeater-Builder] Repeater help needed in Western VA
Fellows, I am writing on behalf of a customer of mine. He bought a 2M repeater from me and is having trouble getting it going. I think he needs help getting his duplexer tuned and cabled correctly. He seems like a nice enough fellow. He had a fall some time ago that fractured most of his limbs. Needless to say, getting around is difficult. At any rate, he has a decibel products 6-8" cans that he is only getting about 60dB of isolation out of. (A local radio shop tuned them. HIHI) The local guys around him seem incredibly inept when it comes to repeaters. One of them even told him that his repeater was upside down because: "that's not how my radio is programmed!!" (upside down between a mobile and repeater setup) Is there any list member, or does anyone know someone, that is close to Big Stone Gap, VA 24219 that might be able to give this fellow a hand? He looks to be about 2 hours NE of Knoxville. I'm sure reasonable compensation would be offered. I'd help him out myself, but it's a 7 hour drive for me. Let me know if you'd be willing to give it a shot and I'll put you in contact with the gentleman directly. Thanks, Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531
Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]
They sounded like the old low band mobile telephone channels. Neil Rob wrote: > > No, those are itinerant freqs that I hold a license for. > > - Rob, WPWA432 ;) > > At 08:01 PM 1/7/2004 -0800, you wrote: > > > Are you installing a low band mobile phone system? > > > > Neil > > > >Rob wrote: > > > > > > I'll take some mid-splits especially if they are already xtalled > > > up on 35.04 or 43.04 MHz! > > > > > > - Rob > > > > > > At 09:02 PM 1/6/2004 -0500, you wrote: > > > > > > >Now you won't get an argument out of me on that one VHF Hi and VHF > > > >low are pretty much $0 - $25, the mid split VHF low can't even be > > > >given away, but we were originally talking about what I believe was > > > >a UHF repeater. > > > > > > > >Chuck > > > >WB2EDV > > > >- Original Message ----- > > > >From: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>James > > > >To: > > <mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > > > >Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 8:36 PM > > > >Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help] > > > > > > > >Maybe I should rephrase that! UHF is so hard to come by, they are > > > >excluded!! My company threw out a whole bunch of VHF Hi MastrII mobiles a > > > >few years ago. > > > > > > > >James > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >To visit your group on the web, go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ > > > >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > >--- > >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > >Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release Date: 1/2/2004 > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release Date: 1/2/2004 Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]
No, those are itinerant freqs that I hold a license for. - Rob, WPWA432 ;) At 08:01 PM 1/7/2004 -0800, you wrote: > Are you installing a low band mobile phone system? > > Neil > >Rob wrote: > > > > I'll take some mid-splits especially if they are already xtalled > > up on 35.04 or 43.04 MHz! > > > > - Rob > > > > At 09:02 PM 1/6/2004 -0500, you wrote: > > > > >Now you won't get an argument out of me on that one VHF Hi and VHF > > >low are pretty much $0 - $25, the mid split VHF low can't even be > > >given away, but we were originally talking about what I believe was > > >a UHF repeater. > > > > > >Chuck > > >WB2EDV > > >- Original Message - > > >From: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>James > > >To: > <mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > > >Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 8:36 PM > > >Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help] > > > > > >Maybe I should rephrase that! UHF is so hard to come by, they are > > >excluded!! My company threw out a whole bunch of VHF Hi MastrII mobiles a > > >few years ago. > > > > > >James > > > > > > > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > >To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ > >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > >--- >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release Date: 1/2/2004 Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release Date: 1/2/2004
Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]
Are you installing a low band mobile phone system? Neil Rob wrote: > > I'll take some mid-splits especially if they are already xtalled > up on 35.04 or 43.04 MHz! > > - Rob > > At 09:02 PM 1/6/2004 -0500, you wrote: > > >Now you won't get an argument out of me on that one VHF Hi and VHF > >low are pretty much $0 - $25, the mid split VHF low can't even be > >given away, but we were originally talking about what I believe was > >a UHF repeater. > > > >Chuck > >WB2EDV > >- Original Message - > >From: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>James > >To: <mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > >Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 8:36 PM > >Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help] > > > >Maybe I should rephrase that! UHF is so hard to come by, they are > >excluded!! My company threw out a whole bunch of VHF Hi MastrII mobiles a > >few years ago. > > > >James > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Re: [RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]]]
Last swipe. Let me know the booth number at Dayton. I'll give $5 for the first shot at it. 73 de N1FNE -Original Message- From: JOHN MACKEY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 2:22 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Re: [RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]]] Kevin Custer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So, this year at Dayton, Repeater Builder will be accepting donations > for the opportunity to smash a Spectrum Repeater with a hammer. > > Now I'm kidding.. > > Let's move on folks, I believe this thread is dead To bad That would have been the best use for a spectrum that I could have imagined!!! Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]
I'll take some mid-splits especially if they are already xtalled up on 35.04 or 43.04 MHz! - Rob At 09:02 PM 1/6/2004 -0500, you wrote: >Now you won't get an argument out of me on that one VHF Hi and VHF low are >pretty much $0 - $25, the mid split VHF low can't even be given away, but >we were originally talking about what I believe was a UHF repeater. > >Chuck >WB2EDV >- Original Message - >From: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>James >To: <mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com >Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 8:36 PM >Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help] > >Maybe I should rephrase that! UHF is so hard to come by, they are >excluded!! My company threw out a whole bunch of VHF Hi MastrII mobiles a >few years ago. > >James > > > > > > > > > >-- >Yahoo! Groups Links >* To visit your group on the web, go to: >* > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ > > >* >* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >* > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >* >* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the > <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>Yahoo! Terms of Service. > >--- >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release Date: 1/2/2004 Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release Date: 1/2/2004
Re: [Re: [RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]]
Well---I never said it was a idea... Actually, they CAN be acceptable ***IF*** you are very careful with tuning (spectrum analyzer is a BIG must!), and once it's set DON'T TOUCH IT Oh, you'll probably have to replace ALL the trimmer caps too. There is ONE on the air I know of in NE Ohio, and it's been on the air for abt 15 yrs at a very high profile site, co-located with abt 12-15 1/4KW Micor stations, among other things. The tx stays clean enough, and the receiver is usable, but it's got bunches o' filters and stuff on tx and rx, besides the 6-can tx-rx duplexer. And at that the rx still gets crap. But it does run. It does need to be watched on a VERY frequent basis, too. For the kind of purpose I was talking about, again once it's tuned LEAVE IT ALONE and it should be alright. Maybe a pass cavity on the tx wouldn't be a bad idea tho... JOHN MACKEY wrote: > Jim - What about all the spurs that Spectrums tend to put out? > > "Jim B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I would say that if he REALLY wants to do SOMETHING with this thing, >>it could be xtal'd up on his favorite repeater as a monitor/base. Find >>an antenna relay out of a mastr pro or a Mitrek or whatever to put on >>the antenna inputs and wire it to the PTT. Put an indoor antenna on it >>so you don't have to worry about lightning protection, just enough to >>put a good signal into the repeater. Oh, and rip out the internal >>controller so it doesn't repeat... > Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Re: [RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]]
Jim - What about all the spurs that Spectrums tend to put out? "Jim B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would say that if he REALLY wants to do SOMETHING with this thing, > it could be xtal'd up on his favorite repeater as a monitor/base. Find > an antenna relay out of a mastr pro or a Mitrek or whatever to put on > the antenna inputs and wire it to the PTT. Put an indoor antenna on it > so you don't have to worry about lightning protection, just enough to > put a good signal into the repeater. Oh, and rip out the internal > controller so it doesn't repeat... Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]
JOHN MACKEY wrote: > Thanks Gary, you are correct. I might add, I have found > Spectrum equipment perform very well as door stops. > > "Gary La Force" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>Come on folks you no spectrum repeater are ok. >> >> >>As long as you don't turn them on. >> >> >>Gary N0PBM I would say that if he REALLY wants to do SOMETHING with this thing, it could be xtal'd up on his favorite repeater as a monitor/base. Find an antenna relay out of a mastr pro or a Mitrek or whatever to put on the antenna inputs and wire it to the PTT. Put an indoor antenna on it so you don't have to worry about lightning protection, just enough to put a good signal into the repeater. Oh, and rip out the internal controller so it doesn't repeat... Jim Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]
Hey Guys, You can always put up a repeater on 220 or 900 or 1296. We are having lots of fun with 900 MHz. and yes you can even use a Master II for a repeater. Lots of radio's for 900 Maxtrac's, Spectra's GTE's and even Johnson and Kenwood's. Have fun! 73 Russ, W3CH - Original Message - From: "Kevin Bednar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 7:26 AM Subject: RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help] > No problem Gary, I was just curious. Where I am located though it is a lot > easier to put something on 440 because it hasn't been all used up yet and we > do have some mountains around which help prevent to much interference > towards NYC. > > Kevin > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 12:02 AM > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help] > > > The reason why is I thought the 2 meter and 440 repeater pairs were all tied > up and nothing was available. I too would like to put up a 440 machine but > I don't want to wait until the 22nd century to do it. Your located RF wise, > between two different coordination groups. We recently had a new 2 meter > repeater in the New York area appear on one of our local repeater > frequencies down here. Thats all, no offense intended. > Gary K2UQ > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]
No problem Gary, I was just curious. Where I am located though it is a lot easier to put something on 440 because it hasn't been all used up yet and we do have some mountains around which help prevent to much interference towards NYC. Kevin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 12:02 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help] The reason why is I thought the 2 meter and 440 repeater pairs were all tied up and nothing was available. I too would like to put up a 440 machine but I don't want to wait until the 22nd century to do it. Your located RF wise, between two different coordination groups. We recently had a new 2 meter repeater in the New York area appear on one of our local repeater frequencies down here. Thats all, no offense intended. Gary K2UQ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Re: [RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]]]
Kevin Custer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So, this year at Dayton, Repeater Builder will be accepting donations > for the opportunity to smash a Spectrum Repeater with a hammer. > > Now I'm kidding.. > > Let's move on folks, I believe this thread is dead To bad That would have been the best use for a spectrum that I could have imagined!!! Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]]
Virden Clark Beckman wrote: >I think you should send it to Kevin so he can hit it with a hammer, when >he is done I will come over and melt some of it with a blowtorch while >he takes the pictures, I am sure someone will step in with a >hammerdrill. Maybe bring it to dayton and charge 1 buck a hit in the >flea market area, you could thensnip > Sounds like a great money maker. Maybe from the donations taken, I won't have to beg for money to host the Repeater Builder site next year. So, this year at Dayton, Repeater Builder will be accepting donations for the opportunity to smash a Spectrum Repeater with a hammer. Now I'm kidding.. Let's move on folks, I believe this thread is dead Kevin Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]]
I think you should send it to Kevin so he can hit it with a hammer, when he is done I will come over and melt some of it with a blowtorch while he takes the pictures, I am sure someone will step in with a hammerdrill. Maybe bring it to dayton and charge 1 buck a hit in the flea market area, you could then buy a converted unit from Kevin. Chuck Kelsey wrote: > > Actually, you need to make all these Spectrum bashers happy. Take a picture > of someone taking a sledgehammer to it and email the picture to Kevin so he > can post it on the Repeater Builder's website. Then whenever someone feels > the need, that URL can be posted and everyone will feel better. > > Chuck > WB2EDV > > - Original Message - > From: "JOHN MACKEY" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 9:14 PM > Subject: Re: [RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]] > > > Kevin - Don't "over-react" on the spectrum by throwing it out before > > considering other uses. Remember my earlier post when I said they make > good > > door stops??? > > -- 73...Clark Beckman N8PZD Pursuant to U.S. Code, title 47, Chapter 5, Subchapter II, ß227, "Any and all nonsolicited commercial E-mail sent to this address is subject to a download and archival fee of $500.00 U.S.". E-mailing denotes acceptance of these terms. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help
The reciever is pretty good, but from everything we have found here the transmitter will work best in the trunk of a tucker torpedo - otherwise using it as portable ballast from an amphibious car would be the best way to use it. Both GE and Motorola made a repair kit for the spectrum radio family, look for a micor or a mastr at a hamfest. kbednar99 wrote: > > Ok, at the risk of being flamed I am gonna' ask this question > anyway. ;) I have inherited a Spectrum Communications SCR-4000 > repeater. Receive seems to work fine but the TX freq drifts after a > few minutes no matter how many times I reset it. It has the TCXO > option in it but it doesnt seem to matter. Any Ideas on what might be > causing this? Spectrum has been LESS than helpful, other than to > say "we discontinued it over 10 years ago and can't help you" and "we > can sell you a manual if you want though!". Thats great. Also, does > anyone know what mods are needed to run this unit with an outboard > controller, as the Spectrum one sucks. Any and all help is GREATLY > appreciated! > > Kevin > K2KMB > -- 73...Clark Beckman N8PZD Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]
Sometimes it's just better to join up with a compatible group of hams and help their group. That often becomes a win-win situation - some people have access to equipment, some have access to good sites, some are great groups that can expand their system with a few like-minded members helping out the coffers. I know that if I ever moved to California, several groups that I'd be bringing my donations of equipment, controllers, etc. to and we'd all be happy campers. LJ Original Message: - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 00:01:56 EST To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help] The reason why is I thought the 2 meter and 440 repeater pairs were all tied up and nothing was available. I too would like to put up a 440 machine but I don't want to wait until the 22nd century to do it. Your located RF wise, between two different coordination groups. We recently had a new 2 meter repeater in the New York area appear on one of our local repeater frequencies down here. Thats all, no offense intended. Gary K2UQ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]
The reason why is I thought the 2 meter and 440 repeater pairs were all tied up and nothing was available. I too would like to put up a 440 machine but I don't want to wait until the 22nd century to do it. Your located RF wise, between two different coordination groups. We recently had a new 2 meter repeater in the New York area appear on one of our local repeater frequencies down here. Thats all, no offense intended. Gary K2UQ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Re: [RE: [RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]]]]
Coy, are you saying you are the one who made foolish statements? "ac0y5" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > AND I DID. > > > (or some foolish statement like that). Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Go to bed, Coy. "ac0y5" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OHSTOP.JOHN! > --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, JOHN MACKEY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Kevin - Don't "over-react" on the spectrum by throwing it out > before > > considering other uses. Remember my earlier post when I said they > make good > > door stops??? > > > > "Kevin Bednar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Unfortunately, we have NO usable radio right now. The old Mastr > II was > > > tossed a few weeks back and the POS Spectrum will be following > shortly. :( > > I > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]
Back in the mid-1970's, one of the Central Oregon 2-way radio shops made a
bunch of 2-Meter and 440-MHz Repeaters using E. F. Johnson mobile radios.
They worked extremely well, and many of them are still going strong, all
over the state, never having had a failure. The receivers were extremely
sensitive, selective, and the transmitters survived long, key-down transmit
cycles on very inaccessible remote mountaintops. And they were cheap, even
back then!
Larry K7LJ
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From: Paul Finch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 20:13:17 -0600
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]
Kevin,
Are you looking for 2 meters or 440? You may want to look into a Johnson
530 or 559 depending on which band you want. They are cheap at swap fests
and very dependable, I usually buy them for 5 to 15 dollars. I have been
running one on each band for over five years and zero failures. Don't get
me wrong, I feel there is not much better radio than a GE Master II, I have
several of them also but for ease of conversion and if high power is not
needed you can't beat the Johnson.
Paul
WB5IDM
-Original Message-
From: Kevin Bednar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 8:01 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]
Thanks for the reply James. I'll figure SOMETHING out. :)
Kevin
K2KMB
--
From: James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 8:45 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]
Kevin,I know that the RECTUM (oops spectrum) isn't much, but you
mentioned frequency drift. First, you might want to go through the exciter
board and resolder all connections (provided that you've checked the simple
stuff, ie power supply regulation, dirty trimmers, etc.). If that does not
yield anything, then maybe you could replace the trimmer for the xtal as it
could be affected by temperature.Please don't flame me for trying to help
him, i know how it can be when you have nothing to put on the air.JamesKevin
Bednar wrote:Unfortunately, we have NO usable radio right now. The old Mastr
II was tossed a few weeks back and the POS Spectrum will be following
shortly. :( I am actually in need of a complete UHF radio to convert now.
:( Thanks for your reply though! I really appreciate all the help I get from
this group!
Kevin
K2KMB
From: Maire Company [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 8:21 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]
what kind of Micro parts do you need?
- Original Message -
From: Kevin Bednar
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 7:56 PM
Subject: RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]
Thanks Jim. I already checked the local shops, no luck. I'll keep
looking.
Kevin
K2KMB
--
From: James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 7:44 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]
Good luck, If you check with some of your local Motorola shops, Micors are
coming out of service regularly (if any are left, I know we had a few).
Micors and MastrII's in their virgin forms can be had cheap or free in many
cases. Even if you get a mobile style of either, it is good.
James
Kevin Bednar wrote:
Unfortunately James the unit was tossed a few weeks back. :(
Kevin
From: James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 6:53 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]
Mastr II PA's should be easy to rebuild?? A few new transistors, etc. and
some TLC and that would work better than any ham grade stuff.
unless of course it is lightning toast.
James
Kevin Bednar wrote:
Unfortunately Joe, everything for this project is being donated for an
OEM/RACES project to improve county coverage, specifically because of the
lack of $$. I also wanted a Mastr II (got one donated but upon further
inspection was missing a board and the PA was toast.) or a Micor but
unfortunately no one was able to donate one. I myself would not want to go
the ebay route because I wouldn't want to screw someone else over with the
same POS problems I'm experiencing with it. Thanks.
Kevin
-Original Message-
From: mch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:28 PM
To: Repe
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help
Kevin, I think I have 2 UHF MastrII and at least 1 VHF MastrII. It might be just the opposite. I will check and let you know. Charles Miller - Original Message - From: "Kevin Bednar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 8:32 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Was:Repeater Help (aka:Spectrum Flamefest 2K3!) > All, > I am doing this to try and get as close to total county coverage via HT as I > can. There is another UHF machine at the other end of the county that I am > going to link to via Echolink when we are deployed. I am also working on an > incident reporting system that will use SQL as a back end and can be > accessed via TCP/IP over RF and via the internet for personnel/resource > tracking and assignment, scheduling, traffic passing and record keeping, > etc, etc. Once completed I will be releasing it as freeware for other hams > to use for RACES/ARES work. Let me know if anyone is interested in helping > beta test and guide the direction/design of this program. The more, the > merrier! :) Thanks again to everyone on the list! > > Kevin > K2KMB > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]
Kevin, I have a MastrII that is tuned up on 443.350 TX and 448.350 rx. Been modified for full duplex. What is it worth? Charles Miller - Original Message - From: "Kevin Bednar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 8:25 PM Subject: RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help] > I'm looking for 440 Paul. I like the Mastr II's as well, and am very much a > Motorolan at heart. Most of my commercial gear is the big M. ;) I dont > really know ANYTHING about Johnson, other than the name. :) Thanks for the > input! > > Kevin > K2KMB > > _ > > From: Paul Finch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 9:13 PM > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > Subject: RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help] > > > Kevin, > > Are you looking for 2 meters or 440? You may want to look into a Johnson > 530 or 559 depending on which band you want. They are cheap at swap fests > and very dependable, I usually buy them for 5 to 15 dollars. I have been > running one on each band for over five years and zero failures. Don't get > me wrong, I feel there is not much better radio than a GE Master II, I have > several of them also but for ease of conversion and if high power is not > needed you can't beat the Johnson. > > Paul > WB5IDM > > > -Original Message- > From: Kevin Bednar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 8:01 PM > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > Subject: RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help] > > > Thanks for the reply James. I'll figure SOMETHING out. :) > > Kevin > K2KMB > > _____ > > From: James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 8:45 PM > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help] > > > > Kevin, > > I know that the RECTUM (oops spectrum) isn't much, but you mentioned > frequency drift. First, you might want to go through the exciter board and > resolder all connections (provided that you've checked the simple stuff, ie > power supply regulation, dirty trimmers, etc.). If that does not yield > anything, then maybe you could replace the trimmer for the xtal as it could > be affected by temperature. > > Please don't flame me for trying to help him, i know how it can be when you > have nothing to put on the air. > > James > > Kevin Bednar wrote: > > Unfortunately, we have NO usable radio right now. The old Mastr II was > tossed a few weeks back and the POS Spectrum will be following shortly. :( I > am actually in need of a complete UHF radio to convert now. :( Thanks for > your reply though! I really appreciate all the help I get from this group! > > Kevin > K2KMB > > _ > > From: Maire Company [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 8:21 PM > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help] > > > what kind of Micro parts do you need? > > > - Original Message - > From: Kevin <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Bednar > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 7:56 PM > Subject: RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help] > > Thanks Jim. I already checked the local shops, no luck. I'll keep looking. > > Kevin > K2KMB > > _ > > From: James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 7:44 PM > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help] > > > Good luck, If you check with some of your local Motorola shops, Micors are > coming out of service regularly (if any are left, I know we had a few). > Micors and MastrII's in their virgin forms can be had cheap or free in many > cases. Even if you get a mobile style of either, it is good. > > > > James > > > > Kevin Bednar wrote: > > > > Unfortunately James the unit was tossed a few weeks back. :( > > Kevin > > _ > > From: James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 6:53 PM > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help] > > > Mastr II PA's should be easy to rebuild?? A few new transistors, etc. and > some TLC and that would work better than any ham grade stuff. > > > > unless of course it is lightning toast. > > > > James > > > > Kevin Bednar wrote: > > > > Unfortunately Joe, everything for this project is being donated for an > > OEM/RACES project to improve county coverage, specifically because of the > > lack of $$. I also wanted a Mastr II (got one donated but upon fu
RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]
Well, I had the Spectrum set on 444.500, why? I was also looking at a pair on 447. Kevin K2KMB -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 10:56 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help] Kevin - K2KMB, What frequency is your repeater going on? Gary K2UQ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]]
OHSTOP.JOHN! --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, JOHN MACKEY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Kevin - Don't "over-react" on the spectrum by throwing it out before > considering other uses. Remember my earlier post when I said they make good > door stops??? > > "Kevin Bednar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Unfortunately, we have NO usable radio right now. The old Mastr II was > > tossed a few weeks back and the POS Spectrum will be following shortly. :( > I Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [RE: [RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]]]
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, JOHN MACKEY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Kevin Bednar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > SNIP > > At least I'm > > one of the people that cares enough to NOT put drifty piece of crap > > on the air. ;) > > Kevin, for that I applaud you!!! Just a few weeks ago we had a person come on > this mail list, & ask about spectrum repeaters. He was told all the horror > stories from many different people about all their problems. Then he > announced that he thinks he can make one work using better technical standards AND I DID. > (or some foolish statement like that). Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]
Kevin - K2KMB, What frequency is your repeater going on? Gary K2UQ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]]
Yes I did John! :) I was also thinking maybe a wheel chock for my Blazer might be a use. ;) Kevin -Original Message- From: JOHN MACKEY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 9:15 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]] Kevin - Don't "over-react" on the spectrum by throwing it out before considering other uses. Remember my earlier post when I said they make good door stops??? "Kevin Bednar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Unfortunately, we have NO usable radio right now. The old Mastr II was > tossed a few weeks back and the POS Spectrum will be following > shortly. :( I Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]
I'm looking for 440 Paul. I like the Mastr II's as well,
and am very much a Motorolan at heart. Most of my commercial gear is the big M.
;) I dont really know ANYTHING about Johnson, other than the name. :) Thanks for
the input!
Kevin
K2KMB
From: Paul Finch
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004
9:13 PMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE:
[[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]
Kevin,
Are
you looking for 2 meters or 440? You may want to look into a Johnson 530
or 559 depending on which band you want. They are cheap at swap fests
and very dependable, I usually buy them for 5 to 15 dollars. I have been
running one on each band for over five years and zero failures. Don't get
me wrong, I feel there is not much better radio than a GE Master II, I have
several of them also but for ease of conversion and if high power is not needed
you can't beat the Johnson.
Paul
WB5IDM
-Original Message-From: Kevin Bednar
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 8:01
PMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE:
[[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]
Thanks for the reply James. I'll figure SOMETHING out.
:)
Kevin
K2KMB
From: James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 8:45 PMTo:
Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder]
Repeater Help]
Kevin, I know that the RECTUM (oops spectrum) isn't much, but you mentioned frequency drift. First, you might want to go through the exciter board and resolder all connections (provided that you've checked the simple stuff, ie power supply regulation, dirty trimmers, etc.). If that does not yield anything, then maybe you could replace the trimmer for the xtal as it could be affected by temperature.Please don't flame me for trying to help him, i know how it can be when you have nothing to put on the air.JamesKevin Bednar wrote:
Unfortunately, we have NO usable radio right now. The
old Mastr II was tossed a few weeks back and the POS Spectrum will be
following shortly. :( I am actually in need of a complete UHF radio to
convert now. :( Thanks for your reply though! I really appreciate all the
help I get from this group!
Kevin
K2KMB
From: Maire Company [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 8:21 PMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject:
Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]
what kind of Micro parts do you
need?
-
Original Message -
From:
Kevin
Bednar
To:
Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent:
Tuesday, January 06, 2004 7:56 PM
Subject:
RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]
Thanks Jim. I already checked the local shops, no
luck. I'll keep looking.
Kevin
K2KMB
From: James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 7:44 PMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject:
Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]Good luck, If you check with some of your local Motorola shops, Micors are coming out of service regularly (if any are left, I know we had a few). Micors and MastrII's in their virgin forms can be had cheap or free in many cases. Even if you get a mobile style of either, it is good.
James
Kevin Bednar wrote:
Unfortunately James the unit was tossed a few weeks
back. :(
Kevin
From: James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 6:53 PMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject:
Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]Mastr II PA's should be easy to rebuild?? A few new transistors, etc. and some TLC and that would work better than any ham grade stuff.
unless of course it is lightning toast.
James
Kevin Bednar wrote:
Unfortunately Joe, everything for this project is being donated for an
OEM/RACES project to improve county coverage, specifically because of the
lack of $$. I also wanted a Mastr II (got one donated but upon further
inspection was missing a board and the PA was toast.) or a Micor but
unfortunately no one was able to donate one. I myself would not want to go
the ebay route because I wouldn't want to screw someone else over with the
same POS problems I'm experiencing with it. Thanks.
Kevin
-Original Message-
From: mch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:28 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]
Well, if you really have the 'anatomy' to do this: Sell it on eBay, take the
money, and buy something that will work much better. (such as a used MASTR
II or Micor)
Personally, I wouldn't do that to someone else, but it is your choic
Re: [RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]]
Actually, you need to make all these Spectrum bashers happy. Take a picture of someone taking a sledgehammer to it and email the picture to Kevin so he can post it on the Repeater Builder's website. Then whenever someone feels the need, that URL can be posted and everyone will feel better. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: "JOHN MACKEY" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 9:14 PM Subject: Re: [RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]] > Kevin - Don't "over-react" on the spectrum by throwing it out before > considering other uses. Remember my earlier post when I said they make good > door stops??? > > Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]]
Kevin - Don't "over-react" on the spectrum by throwing it out before considering other uses. Remember my earlier post when I said they make good door stops??? "Kevin Bednar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Unfortunately, we have NO usable radio right now. The old Mastr II was > tossed a few weeks back and the POS Spectrum will be following shortly. :( I Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]
Kevin,
Are
you looking for 2 meters or 440? You may want to look into a Johnson 530
or 559 depending on which band you want. They are cheap at swap fests
and very dependable, I usually buy them for 5 to 15 dollars. I have been
running one on each band for over five years and zero failures. Don't get
me wrong, I feel there is not much better radio than a GE Master II, I have
several of them also but for ease of conversion and if high power is not needed
you can't beat the Johnson.
Paul
WB5IDM
-Original Message-From: Kevin Bednar
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 8:01
PMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE:
[[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]
Thanks for the reply James. I'll figure SOMETHING out.
:)
Kevin
K2KMB
From: James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 8:45 PMTo:
Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder]
Repeater Help]
Kevin, I know that the RECTUM (oops spectrum) isn't much, but you mentioned frequency drift. First, you might want to go through the exciter board and resolder all connections (provided that you've checked the simple stuff, ie power supply regulation, dirty trimmers, etc.). If that does not yield anything, then maybe you could replace the trimmer for the xtal as it could be affected by temperature.Please don't flame me for trying to help him, i know how it can be when you have nothing to put on the air.JamesKevin Bednar wrote:
Unfortunately, we have NO usable radio right now. The
old Mastr II was tossed a few weeks back and the POS Spectrum will be
following shortly. :( I am actually in need of a complete UHF radio to
convert now. :( Thanks for your reply though! I really appreciate all the
help I get from this group!
Kevin
K2KMB
From: Maire Company [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 8:21 PMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject:
Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]
what kind of Micro parts do you
need?
-
Original Message -
From:
Kevin
Bednar
To:
Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent:
Tuesday, January 06, 2004 7:56 PM
Subject:
RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]
Thanks Jim. I already checked the local shops, no
luck. I'll keep looking.
Kevin
K2KMB
From: James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 7:44 PMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject:
Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]Good luck, If you check with some of your local Motorola shops, Micors are coming out of service regularly (if any are left, I know we had a few). Micors and MastrII's in their virgin forms can be had cheap or free in many cases. Even if you get a mobile style of either, it is good.
James
Kevin Bednar wrote:
Unfortunately James the unit was tossed a few weeks
back. :(
Kevin
From: James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 6:53 PMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject:
Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]Mastr II PA's should be easy to rebuild?? A few new transistors, etc. and some TLC and that would work better than any ham grade stuff.
unless of course it is lightning toast.
James
Kevin Bednar wrote:
Unfortunately Joe, everything for this project is being donated for an
OEM/RACES project to improve county coverage, specifically because of the
lack of $$. I also wanted a Mastr II (got one donated but upon further
inspection was missing a board and the PA was toast.) or a Micor but
unfortunately no one was able to donate one. I myself would not want to go
the ebay route because I wouldn't want to screw someone else over with the
same POS problems I'm experiencing with it. Thanks.
Kevin
-Original Message-
From: mch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:28 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]
Well, if you really have the 'anatomy' to do this: Sell it on eBay, take the
money, and buy something that will work much better. (such as a used MASTR
II or Micor)
Personally, I wouldn't do that to someone else, but it is your choice.
Joe M.
Kevin Bednar wrote:
I kinda figured that John from what I've been told, but unfortunately
there is $0 to replace it with something else. I didn't pay for it so
that's why I was trying to get it working. Thanks.
Kevin
-Original Message-
From: JOHN MACKEY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:23 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re:
RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]
I know, I can feel the heat on my arse from everyone on here. LOL :) I will NEVER do it again, I promise! :) Kevin K2KMB -Original Message- From: Jeff Otterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 9:00 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help] You "tossed" a MASTR II? Sacrilege! At 08:23 PM 1/6/2004, you wrote: >Unfortunately Jeff, the Mastr II was tossed a few weeks back because we >were unable to get the replacement parts. :( So I am now in need of a >whole radio since the Spectrum is crap and will be tossed as well. :( > >Kevin >K2KMB > >-Original Message- >From: Jeff Otterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 8:16 PM >To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help] > > >Kevin, >What parts do you need for your MASTR II? > >Jeff > >At 06:52 PM 1/6/2004, you wrote: > >Mastr II PA's should be easy to rebuild?? A few new transistors, etc. > >and some TLC and that would work better than any ham grade stuff. > > > >unless of course it is lightning toast. > > > >James > > > >Kevin Bednar wrote: > >> > >>Unfortunately Joe, everything for this project is being donated for > >>an OEM/RACES project to improve county coverage, specifically > >>because of the lack of $$. I also wanted a Mastr II (got one donated > >>but upon further inspection was missing a board and the PA was > >>toast.) or a Micor but unfortunately no one was able to donate one. > >>I myself would not want to go the ebay route because I wouldn't want > >>to screw someone else over with the same POS problems I'm experiencing with it. Thanks. > >> > >>Kevin > >> > >>-----Original Message- > >>From: mch [<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:28 PM > >>To: > >><mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>com > >>Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help] > >> > >> > >>Well, if you really have the 'anatomy' to do this: Sell it on eBay, > >>take the money, and buy something that will work much better. (such > >>as a used MASTR II or Micor) > >> > >>Personally, I wouldn't do that to someone else, but it is your choice. > >> > >>Joe M. > >> > >>Kevin Bednar wrote: > >> > >>> > >>>I kinda figured that John from what I've been told, but > >>>unfortunately there is $0 to replace it with something else. I > >>>didn't pay for it so that's why I was trying to get it working. Thanks. > >>> > >>>Kevin > >>> > >>>-Original Message- > >>>From: JOHN MACKEY [<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:23 PM > >>>To: > >>><mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>ps > >>>.com > >>>Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help] > >>> > >>>You can best modify the spectrum by replacing the following components: > >>>power supply, transmitter, receiver, controller. It should then > >>>perform well if you used good replacement parts. > >>> > >>>"kbednar99" <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>> > >>>>Ok, at the risk of being flamed I am gonna' ask this question anyway. > >>>>;) I have inherited a Spectrum Communications SCR-4000 repeater. > >>>>Receive seems to work fine but the TX freq drifts after a few > >>>>minutes no matter how many times I reset it. It has the TCXO > >>>>option in it but it doesnt seem to matter. Any Ideas on what might > >>>>be causing > >>>> > >> > >>this? > >> > >>>> > >>>>Spectrum has been LESS than helpful, other than to say "we > >>>>discontinued it over 10 years ago and can't help you" and "we can > >>>>sell you a manual if you want though!". Thats great. Also, does > >>>>anyone know what mods are needed to run this unit with an outboard > >>>>controller, as the Spectrum one sucks. Any and all help is GREATLY > >>>> > >> > >>appreciated
Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]
Now you won't get an argument out of me on that one VHF Hi and VHF low are pretty much $0 - $25, the mid split VHF low can't even be given away, but we were originally talking about what I believe was a UHF repeater. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: James To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 8:36 PM Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help] Maybe I should rephrase that! UHF is so hard to come by, they are excluded!! My company threw out a whole bunch of VHF Hi MastrII mobiles a few years ago. James Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]
Thanks for the reply James. I'll figure SOMETHING out.
:)
Kevin
K2KMB
From: James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 8:45 PMTo:
Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder]
Repeater Help]
Kevin, I know that the RECTUM (oops spectrum) isn't much, but you mentioned frequency drift. First, you might want to go through the exciter board and resolder all connections (provided that you've checked the simple stuff, ie power supply regulation, dirty trimmers, etc.). If that does not yield anything, then maybe you could replace the trimmer for the xtal as it could be affected by temperature.Please don't flame me for trying to help him, i know how it can be when you have nothing to put on the air.JamesKevin Bednar wrote:
Unfortunately, we have NO usable radio right now. The old
Mastr II was tossed a few weeks back and the POS Spectrum will be following
shortly. :( I am actually in need of a complete UHF radio to convert now. :(
Thanks for your reply though! I really appreciate all the help I get from this
group!
Kevin
K2KMB
From: Maire Company [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 8:21 PMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject:
Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]
what kind of Micro parts do you
need?
-
Original Message -
From:
Kevin
Bednar
To:
Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent:
Tuesday, January 06, 2004 7:56 PM
Subject:
RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]
Thanks Jim. I already checked the local shops, no luck.
I'll keep looking.
Kevin
K2KMB
From: James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 7:44 PMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject:
Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]Good luck, If you check with some of your local Motorola shops, Micors are coming out of service regularly (if any are left, I know we had a few). Micors and MastrII's in their virgin forms can be had cheap or free in many cases. Even if you get a mobile style of either, it is good.
James
Kevin Bednar wrote:
Unfortunately James the unit was tossed a few weeks
back. :(
Kevin
From: James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 6:53 PMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject:
Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]Mastr II PA's should be easy to rebuild?? A few new transistors, etc. and some TLC and that would work better than any ham grade stuff.
unless of course it is lightning toast.
James
Kevin Bednar wrote:
Unfortunately Joe, everything for this project is being donated for an
OEM/RACES project to improve county coverage, specifically because of the
lack of $$. I also wanted a Mastr II (got one donated but upon further
inspection was missing a board and the PA was toast.) or a Micor but
unfortunately no one was able to donate one. I myself would not want to go
the ebay route because I wouldn't want to screw someone else over with the
same POS problems I'm experiencing with it. Thanks.
Kevin
-Original Message-
From: mch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:28 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]
Well, if you really have the 'anatomy' to do this: Sell it on eBay, take the
money, and buy something that will work much better. (such as a used MASTR
II or Micor)
Personally, I wouldn't do that to someone else, but it is your choice.
Joe M.
Kevin Bednar wrote:
I kinda figured that John from what I've been told, but unfortunately
there is $0 to replace it with something else. I didn't pay for it so
that's why I was trying to get it working. Thanks.
Kevin
-Original Message-
From: JOHN MACKEY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:23 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]
You can best modify the spectrum by replacing the following components:
power supply, transmitter, receiver, controller. It should then
perform well if you used good replacement parts.
"kbednar99" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Ok, at the risk of being flamed I am gonna' ask this question anyway.
;) I have inherited a Spectrum Communications SCR-4000 repeater.
Receive seems to work fine but the TX freq drifts after a few
minutes no matter how many times I reset it. It has the TCXO option
in it but it doesnt seem to matter. Any Ideas on what might be causing
this?
Spectrum has been LESS than helpful, other than to say "we
discontinued it over 10 years ago and can't help you" and "we can
sell you a manual if you want though!". Thats gre
RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]
You "tossed" a MASTR II? Sacrilege! At 08:23 PM 1/6/2004, you wrote: >Unfortunately Jeff, the Mastr II was tossed a few weeks back because we were >unable to get the replacement parts. :( So I am now in need of a whole radio >since the Spectrum is crap and will be tossed as well. :( > >Kevin >K2KMB > >-Original Message- >From: Jeff Otterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 8:16 PM >To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help] > > >Kevin, >What parts do you need for your MASTR II? > >Jeff > >At 06:52 PM 1/6/2004, you wrote: > >Mastr II PA's should be easy to rebuild?? A few new transistors, etc. > >and some TLC and that would work better than any ham grade stuff. > > > >unless of course it is lightning toast. > > > >James > > > >Kevin Bednar wrote: > >> > >>Unfortunately Joe, everything for this project is being donated for an > >>OEM/RACES project to improve county coverage, specifically because of > >>the lack of $$. I also wanted a Mastr II (got one donated but upon > >>further inspection was missing a board and the PA was toast.) or a > >>Micor but unfortunately no one was able to donate one. I myself would > >>not want to go the ebay route because I wouldn't want to screw someone > >>else over with the same POS problems I'm experiencing with it. Thanks. > >> > >>Kevin > >> > >>-----Original Message- > >>From: mch [<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:28 PM > >>To: > >><mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>com > >>Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help] > >> > >> > >>Well, if you really have the 'anatomy' to do this: Sell it on eBay, > >>take the money, and buy something that will work much better. (such as > >>a used MASTR II or Micor) > >> > >>Personally, I wouldn't do that to someone else, but it is your choice. > >> > >>Joe M. > >> > >>Kevin Bednar wrote: > >> > >>> > >>>I kinda figured that John from what I've been told, but unfortunately > >>>there is $0 to replace it with something else. I didn't pay for it so > >>>that's why I was trying to get it working. Thanks. > >>> > >>>Kevin > >>> > >>>-Original Message- > >>>From: JOHN MACKEY [<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:23 PM > >>>To: > >>><mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>.com > >>>Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help] > >>> > >>>You can best modify the spectrum by replacing the following components: > >>>power supply, transmitter, receiver, controller. It should then > >>>perform well if you used good replacement parts. > >>> > >>>"kbednar99" <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>> > >>>>Ok, at the risk of being flamed I am gonna' ask this question anyway. > >>>>;) I have inherited a Spectrum Communications SCR-4000 repeater. > >>>>Receive seems to work fine but the TX freq drifts after a few > >>>>minutes no matter how many times I reset it. It has the TCXO option > >>>>in it but it doesnt seem to matter. Any Ideas on what might be > >>>>causing > >>>> > >> > >>this? > >> > >>>> > >>>>Spectrum has been LESS than helpful, other than to say "we > >>>>discontinued it over 10 years ago and can't help you" and "we can > >>>>sell you a manual if you want though!". Thats great. Also, does > >>>>anyone know what mods are needed to run this unit with an outboard > >>>>controller, as the Spectrum one sucks. Any and all help is GREATLY > >>>> > >> > >>appreciated! > >> > >>>> > >>>>Kevin > >>>>K2KMB > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>Yahoo! Groups Links > >>>> > >>>>To visit your group on the web, go to: > >>>> > &
Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]
Kevin, I know that the RECTUM (oops spectrum) isn't much, but you mentioned frequency drift. First, you might want to go through the exciter board and resolder all connections (provided that you've checked the simple stuff, ie power supply regulation, dirty trimmers, etc.). If that does not yield anything, then maybe you could replace the trimmer for the xtal as it could be affected by temperature. Please don't flame me for trying to help him, i know how it can be when you have nothing to put on the air. James Kevin Bednar wrote: Unfortunately, we have NO usable radio right now. The old Mastr II was tossed a few weeks back and the POS Spectrum will be following shortly. :( I am actually in need of a complete UHF radio to convert now. :( Thanks for your reply though! I really appreciate all the help I get from this group! Kevin K2KMB From: Maire Company [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 8:21 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help] what kind of Micro parts do you need? - Original Message - From: Kevin Bednar To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 7:56 PM Subject: RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help] Thanks Jim. I already checked the local shops, no luck. I'll keep looking. Kevin K2KMB From: James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 7:44 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help] Good luck, If you check with some of your local Motorola shops, Micors are coming out of service regularly (if any are left, I know we had a few). Micors and MastrII's in their virgin forms can be had cheap or free in many cases. Even if you get a mobile style of either, it is good. James Kevin Bednar wrote: Unfortunately James the unit was tossed a few weeks back. :( Kevin From: James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 6:53 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help] Mastr II PA's should be easy to rebuild?? A few new transistors, etc. and some TLC and that would work better than any ham grade stuff. unless of course it is lightning toast. James Kevin Bednar wrote: Unfortunately Joe, everything for this project is being donated for an OEM/RACES project to improve county coverage, specifically because of the lack of $$. I also wanted a Mastr II (got one donated but upon further inspection was missing a board and the PA was toast.) or a Micor but unfortunately no one was able to donate one. I myself would not want to go the ebay route because I wouldn't want to screw someone else over with the same POS problems I'm experiencing with it. Thanks. Kevin -Original Message- From: mch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:28 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help] Well, if you really have the 'anatomy' to do this: Sell it on eBay, take the money, and buy something that will work much better. (such as a used MASTR II or Micor) Personally, I wouldn't do that to someone else, but it is your choice. Joe M. Kevin Bednar wrote: I kinda figured that John from what I've been told, but unfortunately there is $0 to replace it with something else. I didn't pay for it so that's why I was trying to get it working. Thanks. Kevin -Original Message- From: JOHN MACKEY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:23 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help] You can best modify the spectrum by replacing the following components: power supply, transmitter, receiver, controller. It should then perform well if you used good replacement parts. "kbednar99" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ok, at the risk of being flamed I am gonna' ask this question anyway. ;) I have inherited a Spectrum Communications SCR-4000 repeater. Receive seems to work fine but the TX freq drifts after a few minutes no matter how many times I reset it. It has the TCXO option in it but it doesnt seem to matter. Any Ideas on what might be causing this? Spectrum has been LESS than helpful, other than to say "we discontinued it over 10 years ago and can't help you" and "we can sell you a manual if you want though!". Thats great. Also, does anyone know what mods are needed to run this unit with an outboard controller, as the Spectrum one sucks. Any an
Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]
Maybe I should rephrase that! UHF is so hard to come by, they are excluded!! My company threw out a whole bunch of VHF Hi MastrII mobiles a few years ago. James Kevin Bednar wrote: Me too Chuck! ;) Kevin K2KMB From: Chuck Kelsey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 7:53 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help] I'd like a line on those free Mastr II UHF radios. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: James To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help] Good luck, If you check with some of your local Motorola shops, Micors are coming out of service regularly (if any are left, I know we had a few). Micors and MastrII's in their virgin forms can be had cheap or free in many cases. Even if you get a mobile style of either, it is good. James Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]
Unfortunately, we have NO usable radio right now. The old Mastr II was tossed a few weeks back and the POS Spectrum will be following shortly. :( I am actually in need of a complete UHF radio to convert now. :( Thanks for your reply though! I really appreciate all the help I get from this group! Kevin K2KMB From: Maire Company [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 8:21 PMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help] what kind of Micro parts do you need? - Original Message - From: Kevin Bednar To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 7:56 PM Subject: RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help] Thanks Jim. I already checked the local shops, no luck. I'll keep looking. Kevin K2KMB From: James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 7:44 PMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help] Good luck, If you check with some of your local Motorola shops, Micors are coming out of service regularly (if any are left, I know we had a few). Micors and MastrII's in their virgin forms can be had cheap or free in many cases. Even if you get a mobile style of either, it is good.JamesKevin Bednar wrote: Unfortunately James the unit was tossed a few weeks back. :( Kevin From: James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 6:53 PMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]Mastr II PA's should be easy to rebuild?? A few new transistors, etc. and some TLC and that would work better than any ham grade stuff. unless of course it is lightning toast. James Kevin Bednar wrote: Unfortunately Joe, everything for this project is being donated for an OEM/RACES project to improve county coverage, specifically because of the lack of $$. I also wanted a Mastr II (got one donated but upon further inspection was missing a board and the PA was toast.) or a Micor but unfortunately no one was able to donate one. I myself would not want to go the ebay route because I wouldn't want to screw someone else over with the same POS problems I'm experiencing with it. Thanks. Kevin -Original Message- From: mch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:28 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help] Well, if you really have the 'anatomy' to do this: Sell it on eBay, take the money, and buy something that will work much better. (such as a used MASTR II or Micor) Personally, I wouldn't do that to someone else, but it is your choice. Joe M. Kevin Bednar wrote: I kinda figured that John from what I've been told, but unfortunately there is $0 to replace it with something else. I didn't pay for it so that's why I was trying to get it working. Thanks. Kevin -Original Message- From: JOHN MACKEY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:23 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help] You can best modify the spectrum by replacing the following components: power supply, transmitter, receiver, controller. It should then perform well if you used good replacement parts. "kbednar99" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ok, at the risk of being flamed I am gonna' ask this question anyway. ;) I have inherited a Spectrum Communications SCR-4000 repeater. Receive seems to work fine but the TX freq drifts after a few minutes no matter how many times I reset it. It has the TCXO option in it but it doesnt seem to matter. Any Ideas on what might be causing this? Spectrum has been LESS than helpful, other than to say "we discontinued it over 10 years ago and can't help you" and "we can sell you a manual if you want though!". Thats great. Also, does anyone know what mods are needed to run this unit with an outboard controller, as the Spectrum one sucks. Any and all help is GREATLY appreciated! Kevin K2KMB Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Ya
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Sorry guys, I didn't know better. :( I do now though. Thanks for all the kind words and offers for help. It is greatly appreciated! I truly believe hams are some of the kindest, most giving individuals I have met. Most of them are truly in it for the hobby and to help, and it shows in all the help I have received from hams in the other parts of this project as well! You guys are great! Kevin K2KMB From: Lee Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 8:20 PMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help] ARRRGGGH! Never toss a MastrII. I could have donated some parts at least.Oh well. - Original Message - From: Kevin Bednar To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 7:03 PM Subject: RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help] Unfortunately James the unit was tossed a few weeks back. :( Kevin From: James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 6:53 PMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help] Mastr II PA's should be easy to rebuild?? A few new transistors, etc. and some TLC and that would work better than any ham grade stuff.unless of course it is lightning toast.James Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]
Unfortunately Jeff, the Mastr II was tossed a few weeks back because we were unable to get the replacement parts. :( So I am now in need of a whole radio since the Spectrum is crap and will be tossed as well. :( Kevin K2KMB -Original Message- From: Jeff Otterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 8:16 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help] Kevin, What parts do you need for your MASTR II? Jeff At 06:52 PM 1/6/2004, you wrote: >Mastr II PA's should be easy to rebuild?? A few new transistors, etc. >and some TLC and that would work better than any ham grade stuff. > >unless of course it is lightning toast. > >James > >Kevin Bednar wrote: >> >>Unfortunately Joe, everything for this project is being donated for an >>OEM/RACES project to improve county coverage, specifically because of >>the lack of $$. I also wanted a Mastr II (got one donated but upon >>further inspection was missing a board and the PA was toast.) or a >>Micor but unfortunately no one was able to donate one. I myself would >>not want to go the ebay route because I wouldn't want to screw someone >>else over with the same POS problems I'm experiencing with it. Thanks. >> >>Kevin >> >>-Original Message- >>From: mch [<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:28 PM >>To: >><mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>com >>Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help] >> >> >>Well, if you really have the 'anatomy' to do this: Sell it on eBay, >>take the money, and buy something that will work much better. (such as >>a used MASTR II or Micor) >> >>Personally, I wouldn't do that to someone else, but it is your choice. >> >>Joe M. >> >>Kevin Bednar wrote: >> >>> >>>I kinda figured that John from what I've been told, but unfortunately >>>there is $0 to replace it with something else. I didn't pay for it so >>>that's why I was trying to get it working. Thanks. >>> >>>Kevin >>> >>>-Original Message- >>>From: JOHN MACKEY [<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:23 PM >>>To: >>><mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>.com >>>Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help] >>> >>>You can best modify the spectrum by replacing the following components: >>>power supply, transmitter, receiver, controller. It should then >>>perform well if you used good replacement parts. >>> >>>"kbednar99" <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> >>>>Ok, at the risk of being flamed I am gonna' ask this question anyway. >>>>;) I have inherited a Spectrum Communications SCR-4000 repeater. >>>>Receive seems to work fine but the TX freq drifts after a few >>>>minutes no matter how many times I reset it. It has the TCXO option >>>>in it but it doesnt seem to matter. Any Ideas on what might be >>>>causing >>>> >> >>this? >> >>>> >>>>Spectrum has been LESS than helpful, other than to say "we >>>>discontinued it over 10 years ago and can't help you" and "we can >>>>sell you a manual if you want though!". Thats great. Also, does >>>>anyone know what mods are needed to run this unit with an outboard >>>>controller, as the Spectrum one sucks. Any and all help is GREATLY >>>> >> >>appreciated! >> >>>> >>>>Kevin >>>>K2KMB >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Yahoo! Groups Links >>>> >>>>To visit your group on the web, go to: >>>> >>>><http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/>http://groups.yahoo >>>>.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ >>>> >>>>To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >>>> >>>><mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Repeater-Builde >>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> >>>>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: >>>> >>>><http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>>
Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]
what kind of Micro parts do you need? - Original Message - From: Kevin Bednar To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 7:56 PM Subject: RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help] Thanks Jim. I already checked the local shops, no luck. I'll keep looking. Kevin K2KMB From: James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 7:44 PMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help] Good luck, If you check with some of your local Motorola shops, Micors are coming out of service regularly (if any are left, I know we had a few). Micors and MastrII's in their virgin forms can be had cheap or free in many cases. Even if you get a mobile style of either, it is good.JamesKevin Bednar wrote: Unfortunately James the unit was tossed a few weeks back. :( Kevin From: James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 6:53 PMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]Mastr II PA's should be easy to rebuild?? A few new transistors, etc. and some TLC and that would work better than any ham grade stuff. unless of course it is lightning toast. James Kevin Bednar wrote: Unfortunately Joe, everything for this project is being donated for an OEM/RACES project to improve county coverage, specifically because of the lack of $$. I also wanted a Mastr II (got one donated but upon further inspection was missing a board and the PA was toast.) or a Micor but unfortunately no one was able to donate one. I myself would not want to go the ebay route because I wouldn't want to screw someone else over with the same POS problems I'm experiencing with it. Thanks. Kevin -Original Message- From: mch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:28 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help] Well, if you really have the 'anatomy' to do this: Sell it on eBay, take the money, and buy something that will work much better. (such as a used MASTR II or Micor) Personally, I wouldn't do that to someone else, but it is your choice. Joe M. Kevin Bednar wrote: I kinda figured that John from what I've been told, but unfortunately there is $0 to replace it with something else. I didn't pay for it so that's why I was trying to get it working. Thanks. Kevin -Original Message- From: JOHN MACKEY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:23 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help] You can best modify the spectrum by replacing the following components: power supply, transmitter, receiver, controller. It should then perform well if you used good replacement parts. "kbednar99" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ok, at the risk of being flamed I am gonna' ask this question anyway. ;) I have inherited a Spectrum Communications SCR-4000 repeater. Receive seems to work fine but the TX freq drifts after a few minutes no matter how many times I reset it. It has the TCXO option in it but it doesnt seem to matter. Any Ideas on what might be causing this? Spectrum has been LESS than helpful, other than to say "we discontinued it over 10 years ago and can't help you" and "we can sell you a manual if you want though!". Thats great. Also, does anyone know what mods are needed to run this unit with an outboard controller, as the Spectrum one sucks. Any and all help is GREATLY appreciated! Kevin K2KMB Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an ema
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ARRRGGGH! Never toss a MastrII. I could have donated some parts at least.Oh well. - Original Message - From: Kevin Bednar To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 7:03 PM Subject: RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help] Unfortunately James the unit was tossed a few weeks back. :( Kevin From: James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 6:53 PMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help] Mastr II PA's should be easy to rebuild?? A few new transistors, etc. and some TLC and that would work better than any ham grade stuff.unless of course it is lightning toast.James Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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Kevin, What parts do you need for your MASTR II? Jeff At 06:52 PM 1/6/2004, you wrote: >Mastr II PA's should be easy to rebuild?? A few new transistors, etc. and >some TLC and that would work better than any ham grade stuff. > >unless of course it is lightning toast. > >James > >Kevin Bednar wrote: >> >>Unfortunately Joe, everything for this project is being donated for an >>OEM/RACES project to improve county coverage, specifically because of the >>lack of $$. I also wanted a Mastr II (got one donated but upon further >>inspection was missing a board and the PA was toast.) or a Micor but >>unfortunately no one was able to donate one. I myself would not want to go >>the ebay route because I wouldn't want to screw someone else over with the >>same POS problems I'm experiencing with it. Thanks. >> >>Kevin >> >>-Original Message- >>From: mch [<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:28 PM >>To: <mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com >>Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help] >> >> >>Well, if you really have the 'anatomy' to do this: Sell it on eBay, take the >>money, and buy something that will work much better. (such as a used MASTR >>II or Micor) >> >>Personally, I wouldn't do that to someone else, but it is your choice. >> >>Joe M. >> >>Kevin Bednar wrote: >> >>> >>>I kinda figured that John from what I've been told, but unfortunately >>>there is $0 to replace it with something else. I didn't pay for it so >>>that's why I was trying to get it working. Thanks. >>> >>>Kevin >>> >>>-Original Message- >>>From: JOHN MACKEY [<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:23 PM >>>To: >>><mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com >>>Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help] >>> >>>You can best modify the spectrum by replacing the following components: >>>power supply, transmitter, receiver, controller. It should then >>>perform well if you used good replacement parts. >>> >>>"kbednar99" <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> >>>>Ok, at the risk of being flamed I am gonna' ask this question anyway. >>>>;) I have inherited a Spectrum Communications SCR-4000 repeater. >>>>Receive seems to work fine but the TX freq drifts after a few >>>>minutes no matter how many times I reset it. It has the TCXO option >>>>in it but it doesnt seem to matter. Any Ideas on what might be causing >>>> >> >>this? >> >>>> >>>>Spectrum has been LESS than helpful, other than to say "we >>>>discontinued it over 10 years ago and can't help you" and "we can >>>>sell you a manual if you want though!". Thats great. Also, does >>>>anyone know what mods are needed to run this unit with an outboard >>>>controller, as the Spectrum one sucks. Any and all help is GREATLY >>>> >> >>appreciated! >> >>>> >>>>Kevin >>>>K2KMB >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Yahoo! Groups Links >>>> >>>>To visit your group on the web, go to: >>>> >>>><http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ >>>> >>>>To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >>>> >>>><mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> >>>>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: >>>> <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>>Yahoo! Groups Links >>> >>>To visit your group on the web, go to: >>> >>><http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ >>> >>>To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >>> >>><mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: >>> <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>http://docs.yahoo.com/info/t
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Me too Chuck! ;) Kevin K2KMB From: Chuck Kelsey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 7:53 PMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help] I'd like a line on those free Mastr II UHF radios. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: James To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help] Good luck, If you check with some of your local Motorola shops, Micors are coming out of service regularly (if any are left, I know we had a few). Micors and MastrII's in their virgin forms can be had cheap or free in many cases. Even if you get a mobile style of either, it is good.James Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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Thanks Jim. I already checked the local shops, no luck. I'll keep looking. Kevin K2KMB From: James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 7:44 PMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help] Good luck, If you check with some of your local Motorola shops, Micors are coming out of service regularly (if any are left, I know we had a few). Micors and MastrII's in their virgin forms can be had cheap or free in many cases. Even if you get a mobile style of either, it is good.JamesKevin Bednar wrote: Unfortunately James the unit was tossed a few weeks back. :( Kevin From: James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 6:53 PMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]Mastr II PA's should be easy to rebuild?? A few new transistors, etc. and some TLC and that would work better than any ham grade stuff. unless of course it is lightning toast. James Kevin Bednar wrote: Unfortunately Joe, everything for this project is being donated for an OEM/RACES project to improve county coverage, specifically because of the lack of $$. I also wanted a Mastr II (got one donated but upon further inspection was missing a board and the PA was toast.) or a Micor but unfortunately no one was able to donate one. I myself would not want to go the ebay route because I wouldn't want to screw someone else over with the same POS problems I'm experiencing with it. Thanks. Kevin -Original Message- From: mch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:28 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help] Well, if you really have the 'anatomy' to do this: Sell it on eBay, take the money, and buy something that will work much better. (such as a used MASTR II or Micor) Personally, I wouldn't do that to someone else, but it is your choice. Joe M. Kevin Bednar wrote: I kinda figured that John from what I've been told, but unfortunately there is $0 to replace it with something else. I didn't pay for it so that's why I was trying to get it working. Thanks. Kevin -Original Message- From: JOHN MACKEY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:23 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help] You can best modify the spectrum by replacing the following components: power supply, transmitter, receiver, controller. It should then perform well if you used good replacement parts. "kbednar99" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ok, at the risk of being flamed I am gonna' ask this question anyway. ;) I have inherited a Spectrum Communications SCR-4000 repeater. Receive seems to work fine but the TX freq drifts after a few minutes no matter how many times I reset it. It has the TCXO option in it but it doesnt seem to matter. Any Ideas on what might be causing this? Spectrum has been LESS than helpful, other than to say "we discontinued it over 10 years ago and can't help you" and "we can sell you a manual if you want though!". Thats great. Also, does anyone know what mods are needed to run this unit with an outboard controller, as the Spectrum one sucks. Any and all help is GREATLY appreciated! Kevin K2KMB Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I'd like a line on those free Mastr II UHF radios. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: James To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help] Good luck, If you check with some of your local Motorola shops, Micors are coming out of service regularly (if any are left, I know we had a few). Micors and MastrII's in their virgin forms can be had cheap or free in many cases. Even if you get a mobile style of either, it is good.James Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]
Good luck, If you check with some of your local Motorola shops, Micors are coming out of service regularly (if any are left, I know we had a few). Micors and MastrII's in their virgin forms can be had cheap or free in many cases. Even if you get a mobile style of either, it is good. James Kevin Bednar wrote: Unfortunately James the unit was tossed a few weeks back. :( Kevin From: James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 6:53 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help] Mastr II PA's should be easy to rebuild?? A few new transistors, etc. and some TLC and that would work better than any ham grade stuff. unless of course it is lightning toast. James Kevin Bednar wrote: Unfortunately Joe, everything for this project is being donated for an OEM/RACES project to improve county coverage, specifically because of the lack of $$. I also wanted a Mastr II (got one donated but upon further inspection was missing a board and the PA was toast.) or a Micor but unfortunately no one was able to donate one. I myself would not want to go the ebay route because I wouldn't want to screw someone else over with the same POS problems I'm experiencing with it. Thanks. Kevin -Original Message- From: mch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:28 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help] Well, if you really have the 'anatomy' to do this: Sell it on eBay, take the money, and buy something that will work much better. (such as a used MASTR II or Micor) Personally, I wouldn't do that to someone else, but it is your choice. Joe M. Kevin Bednar wrote: I kinda figured that John from what I've been told, but unfortunately there is $0 to replace it with something else. I didn't pay for it so that's why I was trying to get it working. Thanks. Kevin -Original Message- From: JOHN MACKEY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:23 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help] You can best modify the spectrum by replacing the following components: power supply, transmitter, receiver, controller. It should then perform well if you used good replacement parts. "kbednar99" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ok, at the risk of being flamed I am gonna' ask this question anyway. ;) I have inherited a Spectrum Communications SCR-4000 repeater. Receive seems to work fine but the TX freq drifts after a few minutes no matter how many times I reset it. It has the TCXO option in it but it doesnt seem to matter. Any Ideas on what might be causing this? Spectrum has been LESS than helpful, other than to say "we discontinued it over 10 years ago and can't help you" and "we can sell you a manual if you want though!". Thats great. Also, does anyone know what mods are needed to run this unit with an outboard controller, as the Spectrum one sucks. Any and all help is GREATLY appreciated! Kevin K2KMB Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help
Kevin Bednar wrote: >... Spectrum has been LESS than helpful, other than to >say "we discontinued it over 10 years ago I wonder why they discontinued it? (smirk) >and can't help you" In other words, "we want nothing to do with it" >and "we can sell you a manual if you want though!". Translation: You're on your own! >Thats great. Also, does >anyone know what mods are needed to run this unit with an outboard >controller, as the Spectrum one sucks. Trace the audio and PTT lines and disconnect the internal controller. Add your choice of connector(s) to the RX audio out, COR out and PL decoder out leads and to the TX audio in and PTT leads. Then build up your own interconnecting cable to go to an external controller. >Any and all help is GREATLY appreciated! > >Kevin >K2KMB Later on he wrote: >I also wanted a Mastr II (got one donated but upon further >inspection was missing a board and the PA was toast.) Missing boards can be acquired, please state what was missing ... And the PA is repairable, unless it's a lightning strike... And if it's a high power model, and the final is toasted, you might actually want to bypass the final and run it at the 40-45w level. Mike Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Unfortunately James the unit was tossed a few weeks back. :( Kevin From: James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 6:53 PMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help] Mastr II PA's should be easy to rebuild?? A few new transistors, etc. and some TLC and that would work better than any ham grade stuff.unless of course it is lightning toast.JamesKevin Bednar wrote: Unfortunately Joe, everything for this project is being donated for an OEM/RACES project to improve county coverage, specifically because of the lack of $$. I also wanted a Mastr II (got one donated but upon further inspection was missing a board and the PA was toast.) or a Micor but unfortunately no one was able to donate one. I myself would not want to go the ebay route because I wouldn't want to screw someone else over with the same POS problems I'm experiencing with it. Thanks. Kevin -Original Message- From: mch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:28 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help] Well, if you really have the 'anatomy' to do this: Sell it on eBay, take the money, and buy something that will work much better. (such as a used MASTR II or Micor) Personally, I wouldn't do that to someone else, but it is your choice. Joe M. Kevin Bednar wrote: I kinda figured that John from what I've been told, but unfortunately there is $0 to replace it with something else. I didn't pay for it so that's why I was trying to get it working. Thanks. Kevin -Original Message- From: JOHN MACKEY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:23 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help] You can best modify the spectrum by replacing the following components: power supply, transmitter, receiver, controller. It should then perform well if you used good replacement parts. "kbednar99" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ok, at the risk of being flamed I am gonna' ask this question anyway. ;) I have inherited a Spectrum Communications SCR-4000 repeater. Receive seems to work fine but the TX freq drifts after a few minutes no matter how many times I reset it. It has the TCXO option in it but it doesnt seem to matter. Any Ideas on what might be causing this? Spectrum has been LESS than helpful, other than to say "we discontinued it over 10 years ago and can't help you" and "we can sell you a manual if you want though!". Thats great. Also, does anyone know what mods are needed to run this unit with an outboard controller, as the Spectrum one sucks. Any and all help is GREATLY appreciated! Kevin K2KMB Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]
Mastr II PA's should be easy to rebuild?? A few new transistors, etc. and some TLC and that would work better than any ham grade stuff. unless of course it is lightning toast. James Kevin Bednar wrote: Unfortunately Joe, everything for this project is being donated for an OEM/RACES project to improve county coverage, specifically because of the lack of $$. I also wanted a Mastr II (got one donated but upon further inspection was missing a board and the PA was toast.) or a Micor but unfortunately no one was able to donate one. I myself would not want to go the ebay route because I wouldn't want to screw someone else over with the same POS problems I'm experiencing with it. Thanks. Kevin -Original Message- From: mch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:28 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help] Well, if you really have the 'anatomy' to do this: Sell it on eBay, take the money, and buy something that will work much better. (such as a used MASTR II or Micor) Personally, I wouldn't do that to someone else, but it is your choice. Joe M. Kevin Bednar wrote: I kinda figured that John from what I've been told, but unfortunately there is $0 to replace it with something else. I didn't pay for it so that's why I was trying to get it working. Thanks. Kevin -Original Message- From: JOHN MACKEY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:23 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help] You can best modify the spectrum by replacing the following components: power supply, transmitter, receiver, controller. It should then perform well if you used good replacement parts. "kbednar99" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ok, at the risk of being flamed I am gonna' ask this question anyway. ;) I have inherited a Spectrum Communications SCR-4000 repeater. Receive seems to work fine but the TX freq drifts after a few minutes no matter how many times I reset it. It has the TCXO option in it but it doesnt seem to matter. Any Ideas on what might be causing this? Spectrum has been LESS than helpful, other than to say "we discontinued it over 10 years ago and can't help you" and "we can sell you a manual if you want though!". Thats great. Also, does anyone know what mods are needed to run this unit with an outboard controller, as the Spectrum one sucks. Any and all help is GREATLY appreciated! Kevin K2KMB Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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I've watched this thread and can't resist contributing my experiences. I supported a Spectrum SCR-1000 VHF repeater for my ham club for more than 3 years. It never operated to our satisfaction. Key problems: 1. Transmitter spurs caused by leaky caps that overheated. 2. Poor power supply design - Darlington TO-3 pass transistor would fail short circuit, placing 18V unregulated on the TX and RX. 3. Original receiver was obsoleted by Spectrum as it lacked adequate IF selectivity. The new RX wasn't much better. 4. Receiver pre-selector had a higher noise figure than the front end of the RX. The repeater actually heard better without the pre-selector. We finally dumped it and got a GE 100w Master. After we learned to improve cooling and run it at 80w rather than to reduce power in the PA, it was clean and worked flawlessly. My two cents... Kim, K5TU -Original Message- From: Kevin Bednar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:13 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [RE: [RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]]] Well, considering the "technical standards" (or lack thereof) that Spectru m uses I gues ANYTHING is an improvement! ;) LOL Kevin -Original Message- From: JOHN MACKEY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 6:02 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [RE: [RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]]] "Kevin Bednar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: SNIP > At least I'm > one of the people that cares enough to NOT put drifty piece of crap on > the air. ;) Kevin, for that I applaud you!!! Just a few weeks ago we had a person come on this mail list, & ask about spectrum repeaters. He was told all the horror stories from many different people about all their problems. Then he announced that he thinks he can make one work using better technical standards (or some foolish statement like that). Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- -- This message has been inspected by DynaComm i:mail 3.0 http://www.futuresoft.com -- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Well, considering the "technical standards" (or lack thereof) that Spectrum uses I gues ANYTHING is an improvement! ;) LOL Kevin -Original Message- From: JOHN MACKEY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 6:02 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [RE: [RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]]] "Kevin Bednar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: SNIP > At least I'm > one of the people that cares enough to NOT put drifty piece of crap on > the air. ;) Kevin, for that I applaud you!!! Just a few weeks ago we had a person come on this mail list, & ask about spectrum repeaters. He was told all the horror stories from many different people about all their problems. Then he announced that he thinks he can make one work using better technical standards (or some foolish statement like that). Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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"Kevin Bednar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: SNIP > At least I'm > one of the people that cares enough to NOT put drifty piece of crap > on the air. ;) Kevin, for that I applaud you!!! Just a few weeks ago we had a person come on this mail list, & ask about spectrum repeaters. He was told all the horror stories from many different people about all their problems. Then he announced that he thinks he can make one work using better technical standards (or some foolish statement like that). Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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I agree John. I thought I'd ask, but I have been convinced to dispose of this paperweight on my next trip to the MUA. :) Kevin -Original Message- From: JOHN MACKEY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:50 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]] Kevin Bednar wrote: > I kinda figured that John from what I've been told, but unfortunately > there is $0 to replace it with something else. I didn't pay for it so Kevin - if you don't have any money to put up a repeater, then you shouldn't be doing it in the first place. Repeaters are a HUGH money drain if you run them in even lower quality. PSSSTT- You'll spend a lot of money in parts and buying people coffee/food to help you keep that spectrum running. They are crap. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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I agree and understand 100% John, hence my snide comments about them wanting to at least offer to sell me a manual! LOL Since beggars cant be choosers I was just trying to make do with what was available, that's all. At least I'm one of the people that cares enough to NOT put drifty piece of crap on the air. ;) Kevin -Original Message- From: JOHN MACKEY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:44 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]] Kevin - Does that tell you something when the manufacturer won't even support the product? Most of us here are running repeaters that are at least 15 years old. Several of my repeaters were built in the late 1960's & thru the 1970's by GE (the Mastr Pro). > "kbednar99" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: SNIP > > Spectrum has been LESS than helpful, other than to say "we > > discontinued it over 10 years ago and can't help you" and "we can SNIP Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]
Unfortunately Joe, everything for this project is being donated for an OEM/RACES project to improve county coverage, specifically because of the lack of $$. I also wanted a Mastr II (got one donated but upon further inspection was missing a board and the PA was toast.) or a Micor but unfortunately no one was able to donate one. I myself would not want to go the ebay route because I wouldn't want to screw someone else over with the same POS problems I'm experiencing with it. Thanks. Kevin -Original Message- From: mch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:28 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help] Well, if you really have the 'anatomy' to do this: Sell it on eBay, take the money, and buy something that will work much better. (such as a used MASTR II or Micor) Personally, I wouldn't do that to someone else, but it is your choice. Joe M. Kevin Bednar wrote: > > I kinda figured that John from what I've been told, but unfortunately > there is $0 to replace it with something else. I didn't pay for it so > that's why I was trying to get it working. Thanks. > > Kevin > > -Original Message- > From: JOHN MACKEY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:23 PM > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help] > > You can best modify the spectrum by replacing the following components: > power supply, transmitter, receiver, controller. It should then > perform well if you used good replacement parts. > > "kbednar99" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Ok, at the risk of being flamed I am gonna' ask this question anyway. > > ;) I have inherited a Spectrum Communications SCR-4000 repeater. > > Receive seems to work fine but the TX freq drifts after a few > > minutes no matter how many times I reset it. It has the TCXO option > > in it but it doesnt seem to matter. Any Ideas on what might be causing this? > > Spectrum has been LESS than helpful, other than to say "we > > discontinued it over 10 years ago and can't help you" and "we can > > sell you a manual if you want though!". Thats great. Also, does > > anyone know what mods are needed to run this unit with an outboard > > controller, as the Spectrum one sucks. Any and all help is GREATLY appreciated! > > > > Kevin > > K2KMB > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]]
Kevin Bednar wrote: > I kinda figured that John from what I've been told, but unfortunately > there is $0 to replace it with something else. I didn't pay for it so Kevin - if you don't have any money to put up a repeater, then you shouldn't be doing it in the first place. Repeaters are a HUGH money drain if you run them in even lower quality. PSSSTT- You'll spend a lot of money in parts and buying people coffee/food to help you keep that spectrum running. They are crap. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Thanks Gary, you are correct. I might add, I have found Spectrum equipment perform very well as door stops. "Gary La Force" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Come on folks you no spectrum repeater are ok. > > > As long as you don't turn them on. > > > Gary N0PBM Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Kevin - Does that tell you something when the manufacturer won't even support the product? Most of us here are running repeaters that are at least 15 years old. Several of my repeaters were built in the late 1960's & thru the 1970's by GE (the Mastr Pro). > "kbednar99" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: SNIP > > Spectrum has been LESS than helpful, other than to say "we > > discontinued it over 10 years ago and can't help you" and "we can SNIP Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help
Come on folks you no spectrum repeater are ok. As long as you don't turn them on. Gary N0PBM -Original Message- From: Kevin Bednar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 4:36 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help Ok, the power supply and controller is probably doable, but no exciter currently. Oh well, I was hoping there was SOMETHING that could be done to repair this obviously poor excuse for a repeater. Kevin -Original Message- From: Kevin Custer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:27 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help kbednar99 wrote: >Ok, at the risk of being flamed I am gonna' ask this question anyway. >;) I have inherited a Spectrum Communications SCR-4000 repeater. >Receive seems to work fine but the TX freq drifts after a few minutes >no matter how many times I reset it. It has the TCXO option in it but >it doesnt seem to matter. Any Ideas on what might be causing this? >Spectrum has been LESS than helpful, other than to say "we discontinued >it over 10 years ago and can't help you" and "we can sell you a manual >if you want though!". Thats great. Also, does anyone know what mods are >needed to run this unit with an outboard controller, as the Spectrum >one sucks. Any and all help is GREATLY appreciated! > >Kevin >K2KMB > Here is what I'd do: (in the short term) 1.) Take the Spectrum exciter out and throw it away. 2.) This next step is optional: Smash it with a hammer so you never have any thoughts of reinstalling it. 3.) Install a used Hamtronics exciter in its place. 4.) Gut out the old control and power supply circuitry from the Spectrum. 5.) Install a NHRC-4 controller. 6.) Hook it to a Astron RS-35A/M power supply. (in the long term) 1.) Save some money. 2.) Throw everything except #5 and 6 away above. 3.) Build or buy a real repeater. No I'm not joking. Kevin Custer Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]
Well, if you really have the 'anatomy' to do this: Sell it on eBay, take the money, and buy something that will work much better. (such as a used MASTR II or Micor) Personally, I wouldn't do that to someone else, but it is your choice. Joe M. Kevin Bednar wrote: > > I kinda figured that John from what I've been told, but unfortunately there > is $0 to replace it with something else. I didn't pay for it so that's why I > was trying to get it working. Thanks. > > Kevin > > -Original Message- > From: JOHN MACKEY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:23 PM > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help] > > You can best modify the spectrum by replacing the following components: > power supply, transmitter, receiver, controller. It should then perform > well if you used good replacement parts. > > "kbednar99" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Ok, at the risk of being flamed I am gonna' ask this question anyway. > > ;) I have inherited a Spectrum Communications SCR-4000 repeater. > > Receive seems to work fine but the TX freq drifts after a few minutes > > no matter how many times I reset it. It has the TCXO option in it but > > it doesnt seem to matter. Any Ideas on what might be causing this? > > Spectrum has been LESS than helpful, other than to say "we > > discontinued it over 10 years ago and can't help you" and "we can sell > > you a manual if you want though!". Thats great. Also, does anyone know > > what mods are needed to run this unit with an outboard controller, as > > the Spectrum one sucks. Any and all help is GREATLY appreciated! > > > > Kevin > > K2KMB > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help
Ok, the power supply and controller is probably doable, but no exciter currently. Oh well, I was hoping there was SOMETHING that could be done to repair this obviously poor excuse for a repeater. Kevin -Original Message- From: Kevin Custer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:27 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help kbednar99 wrote: >Ok, at the risk of being flamed I am gonna' ask this question anyway. >;) I have inherited a Spectrum Communications SCR-4000 repeater. >Receive seems to work fine but the TX freq drifts after a few minutes >no matter how many times I reset it. It has the TCXO option in it but >it doesnt seem to matter. Any Ideas on what might be causing this? >Spectrum has been LESS than helpful, other than to say "we discontinued >it over 10 years ago and can't help you" and "we can sell you a manual >if you want though!". Thats great. Also, does anyone know what mods are >needed to run this unit with an outboard controller, as the Spectrum >one sucks. Any and all help is GREATLY appreciated! > >Kevin >K2KMB > Here is what I'd do: (in the short term) 1.) Take the Spectrum exciter out and throw it away. 2.) This next step is optional: Smash it with a hammer so you never have any thoughts of reinstalling it. 3.) Install a used Hamtronics exciter in its place. 4.) Gut out the old control and power supply circuitry from the Spectrum. 5.) Install a NHRC-4 controller. 6.) Hook it to a Astron RS-35A/M power supply. (in the long term) 1.) Save some money. 2.) Throw everything except #5 and 6 away above. 3.) Build or buy a real repeater. No I'm not joking. Kevin Custer Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]
Unfortunately I'm laughing with you Ken! :o Kevin -Original Message- From: Ken Arck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:25 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help] At 04:23 PM 1/6/2004 -0600, you wrote: >You can best modify the spectrum by replacing the following components: >power supply, transmitter, receiver, controller. It should then >perform well if you used good replacement parts. <-LOL! -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Our new Repeater Audio Delay (RAD) board is now shipping! Compatible with many controllers! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]
I kinda figured that John from what I've been told, but unfortunately there is $0 to replace it with something else. I didn't pay for it so that's why I was trying to get it working. Thanks. Kevin -Original Message- From: JOHN MACKEY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:23 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help] You can best modify the spectrum by replacing the following components: power supply, transmitter, receiver, controller. It should then perform well if you used good replacement parts. "kbednar99" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ok, at the risk of being flamed I am gonna' ask this question anyway. > ;) I have inherited a Spectrum Communications SCR-4000 repeater. > Receive seems to work fine but the TX freq drifts after a few minutes > no matter how many times I reset it. It has the TCXO option in it but > it doesnt seem to matter. Any Ideas on what might be causing this? > Spectrum has been LESS than helpful, other than to say "we > discontinued it over 10 years ago and can't help you" and "we can sell > you a manual if you want though!". Thats great. Also, does anyone know > what mods are needed to run this unit with an outboard controller, as > the Spectrum one sucks. Any and all help is GREATLY appreciated! > > Kevin > K2KMB > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help
kbednar99 wrote: >Ok, at the risk of being flamed I am gonna' ask this question >anyway. ;) I have inherited a Spectrum Communications SCR-4000 >repeater. Receive seems to work fine but the TX freq drifts after a >few minutes no matter how many times I reset it. It has the TCXO >option in it but it doesnt seem to matter. Any Ideas on what might be >causing this? Spectrum has been LESS than helpful, other than to >say "we discontinued it over 10 years ago and can't help you" and "we >can sell you a manual if you want though!". Thats great. Also, does >anyone know what mods are needed to run this unit with an outboard >controller, as the Spectrum one sucks. Any and all help is GREATLY >appreciated! > >Kevin >K2KMB > Here is what I'd do: (in the short term) 1.) Take the Spectrum exciter out and throw it away. 2.) This next step is optional: Smash it with a hammer so you never have any thoughts of reinstalling it. 3.) Install a used Hamtronics exciter in its place. 4.) Gut out the old control and power supply circuitry from the Spectrum. 5.) Install a NHRC-4 controller. 6.) Hook it to a Astron RS-35A/M power supply. (in the long term) 1.) Save some money. 2.) Throw everything except #5 and 6 away above. 3.) Build or buy a real repeater. No I'm not joking. Kevin Custer Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]
At 04:23 PM 1/6/2004 -0600, you wrote: >You can best modify the spectrum by replacing the following components: >power supply, transmitter, receiver, controller. It should then perform well >if you used good replacement parts. <-LOL! -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Our new Repeater Audio Delay (RAD) board is now shipping! Compatible with many controllers! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]
You can best modify the spectrum by replacing the following components: power supply, transmitter, receiver, controller. It should then perform well if you used good replacement parts. "kbednar99" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ok, at the risk of being flamed I am gonna' ask this question > anyway. ;) I have inherited a Spectrum Communications SCR-4000 > repeater. Receive seems to work fine but the TX freq drifts after a > few minutes no matter how many times I reset it. It has the TCXO > option in it but it doesnt seem to matter. Any Ideas on what might be > causing this? Spectrum has been LESS than helpful, other than to > say "we discontinued it over 10 years ago and can't help you" and "we > can sell you a manual if you want though!". Thats great. Also, does > anyone know what mods are needed to run this unit with an outboard > controller, as the Spectrum one sucks. Any and all help is GREATLY > appreciated! > > Kevin > K2KMB > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help
Ok, at the risk of being flamed I am gonna' ask this question anyway. ;) I have inherited a Spectrum Communications SCR-4000 repeater. Receive seems to work fine but the TX freq drifts after a few minutes no matter how many times I reset it. It has the TCXO option in it but it doesnt seem to matter. Any Ideas on what might be causing this? Spectrum has been LESS than helpful, other than to say "we discontinued it over 10 years ago and can't help you" and "we can sell you a manual if you want though!". Thats great. Also, does anyone know what mods are needed to run this unit with an outboard controller, as the Spectrum one sucks. Any and all help is GREATLY appreciated! Kevin K2KMB Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater help
http://www.repeater-builder.com/ Dave wrote: were is the repeater builder web sight. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater help
were is the repeater builder web sight Virden Clark Beckman wrote: If it hasn't been pointed out previously, a visit to the repeater-builder web site would be the second or third place to take a virtual trip into repeaters. The first 2 places would be equipment manufacturers web sites to gain some idea on the cost of new and another would be with a tower maintenance company who would be hired to get you the antenna site. Having visited the first 2 you will have an idea of the capital required to begin your adventure, the making of a repeater is not as easy as picking fresh fruit at the local market, when you can be more specific with troubleshooting help needed there is a good host of help here to bring you out of the stumbling blocks and remind you that the majority of the trouble with a repeater is either the tower site can't hear or is too close to another one like yours and you will be sitting inside of innermod alley - or just another 2-3 hundred hours needed to build that unique bandpass-reject filter to help the cavity style used by everyone. In some cases they go up and stay on the air without much extra tuning, these were thought out slowly after many hours of research which is where you are beginning. kc2cfy wrote: I am hoping to find some help on building or buying my own repeater. I have a few questions to ask: A. Where can I buy a repeater? B. Does it come with everything I need? C. How hard is it to setup? How long does it take? I guess we can start there, for now. 73! Michael KC2CFY Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater help
If it hasn't been pointed out previously, a visit to the repeater-builder web site would be the second or third place to take a virtual trip into repeaters. The first 2 places would be equipment manufacturers web sites to gain some idea on the cost of new and another would be with a tower maintenance company who would be hired to get you the antenna site. Having visited the first 2 you will have an idea of the capital required to begin your adventure, the making of a repeater is not as easy as picking fresh fruit at the local market, when you can be more specific with troubleshooting help needed there is a good host of help here to bring you out of the stumbling blocks and remind you that the majority of the trouble with a repeater is either the tower site can't hear or is too close to another one like yours and you will be sitting inside of innermod alley - or just another 2-3 hundred hours needed to build that unique bandpass-reject filter to help the cavity style used by everyone. In some cases they go up and stay on the air without much extra tuning, these were thought out slowly after many hours of research which is where you are beginning. kc2cfy wrote: > > I am hoping to find some help on building or buying my own > repeater. I have a few questions to ask: > > A. Where can I buy a repeater? > B. Does it come with everything I need? > C. How hard is it to setup? How long does it take? > > I guess we can start there, for now. > > 73! > Michael KC2CFY > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- 73...Clark Beckman N8PZD Pursuant to U.S. Code, title 47, Chapter 5, Subchapter II, ß227, "Any and all nonsolicited commercial E-mail sent to this address is subject to a download and archival fee of $500.00 U.S.". E-mailing denotes acceptance of these terms. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
