[Repeater-Builder] A couple of Micor questions..

2006-03-13 Thread Mike Perryman
First, thanks to all who responded to my requests for info regarding
interfacing the RC-210.  The repeater is on the air and functioning
reasonably well!

I do have another question though...  I have a cont.-duty PA (Micor cont
duty on 40MHz split) for it, and the interconnect board I have does not have
the header pins for interfacing it.  So it goes without saying I also do not
have the associated cabling.  Does anyone have info regarding how to make
the outboard PA play?  My question is, what gets tied to where with regard
to the interconnect board and the PA.
I couldn't find what I was looking for in my manual, as it is for an
intermittant-duty compa-station.  Actually I can't find much info in my
manual regarding this PA.  I did notice that it will have to be moved into
the correct band-split so there is still some work in my future...

Thanks again
 73
Mike Perryman
www.k5jmp.us





 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] A couple of Micor questions..

2006-03-13 Thread Jim Cicirello
Mike, If the low band PA's are the same wiring configuration as the VHF Hi,
there is a pin on the end of the Amp which must be grounded when you
transmit. Other than that, it is just 12+, Exciter in and RF out. As I
remember as you look at the component side of the amp, the pin is on the
left end. I don't remember any other exterior connections. 
Good Luck,  73
Jim KA2AJH  Wellsville, N.Y. 

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Subject: [Repeater-Builder] A couple of Micor questions..

First, thanks to all who responded to my requests for info regarding
interfacing the RC-210.  The repeater is on the air and functioning
reasonably well!

I do have another question though...  I have a cont.-duty PA (Micor cont
duty on 40MHz split) for it, and the interconnect board I have does not have
the header pins for interfacing it.  So it goes without saying I also do not
have the associated cabling.  Does anyone have info regarding how to make
the outboard PA play?  My question is, what gets tied to where with regard
to the interconnect board and the PA.
I couldn't find what I was looking for in my manual, as it is for an
intermittant-duty compa-station.  Actually I can't find much info in my
manual regarding this PA.  I did notice that it will have to be moved into
the correct band-split so there is still some work in my future...

Thanks again
 73
Mike Perryman
www.k5jmp.us





 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] A couple of Micor questions..

2006-03-13 Thread Mike Perryman
Thanks Jim,
I thought that was the case, but wasn't sure.  I had played with putting one
of these amps on a 2m machine about 5yrs ago...  but didn't recall just
exactly how I made it play.  There is a single pin below what looks to be
metering attachments (4 each, in a parelellagram above it).  The only other
question would be the header pins on the transmitter interconnect board and
how they figure into the mess...??  I have 2 other chassis, and they have
the header pins...  just didn't want to have to do major surgery to change
the interconnect board.

Thanks again,
 73
Mike Perryman
www.k5jmp.us


  -Original Message-
 From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  On Behalf Of Jim Cicirello
 Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 10:36 AM
 To:   Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject:  RE: [Repeater-Builder] A couple of Micor questions..
 
 Mike, If the low band PA's are the same wiring configuration as the VHF
 Hi, there is a pin on the end of the Amp which must be grounded when you
 transmit. Other than that, it is just 12+, Exciter in and RF out. As I
 remember as you look at the component side of the amp, the pin is on the
 left end. I don't remember any other exterior connections. 
 Good Luck,  73
 Jim KA2AJH  Wellsville, N.Y. 
 
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 From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Perryman
 Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 9:36 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] com
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] A couple of Micor questions..
 
 First, thanks to all who responded to my requests for info regarding
 interfacing the RC-210.  The repeater is on the air and functioning
 reasonably well!
 
 I do have another question though...  I have a cont.-duty PA (Micor cont
 duty on 40MHz split) for it, and the interconnect board I have does not
 have the header pins for interfacing it.  So it goes without saying I also
 do not have the associated cabling.  Does anyone have info regarding how
 to make the outboard PA play?  My question is, what gets tied to where
 with regard to the interconnect board and the PA.
 I couldn't find what I was looking for in my manual, as it is for an
 intermittant-duty compa-station.  Actually I can't find much info in my
 manual regarding this PA.  I did notice that it will have to be moved into
 the correct band-split so there is still some work in my future...
 
 Thanks again
  73
 Mike Perryman
 www.k5jmp.us
 




 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] A couple of Micor questions..

2006-03-13 Thread Jim Cicirello
Mike, 
How about getting the ground you need for the PA from your controller
instead of the backplane? When the controller goes into PTT it gives you the
timing you need, i.e. the tail, etc. If the controller goes to ground on the
PTT, you could get your ground there. If it goes high, you could use a
transistor to invert the positive to ground. You wouldn't have to go to the
backplane. This is one approach that may be simple?

Good Luck   73 

Jim KA2AJH  Wellsville, N.Y. 

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Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 10:52 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] A couple of Micor questions..

Thanks Jim,
I thought that was the case, but wasn't sure.  I had played with putting one
of these amps on a 2m machine about 5yrs ago...  but didn't recall just
exactly how I made it play.  There is a single pin below what looks to be
metering attachments (4 each, in a parelellagram above it).  The only other
question would be the header pins on the transmitter interconnect board and
how they figure into the mess...??  I have 2 other chassis, and they have
the header pins...  just didn't want to have to do major surgery to change
the interconnect board.

Thanks again,
 73
Mike Perryman
www.k5jmp.us


 -Original Message-
From:   Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  On Behalf Of Jim Cicirello
Sent:   Monday, March 13, 2006 10:36 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject:RE: [Repeater-Builder] A couple of Micor questions..

Mike, If the low band PA's are the same wiring configuration as the
VHF Hi, there is a pin on the end of the Amp which must be grounded when you
transmit. Other than that, it is just 12+, Exciter in and RF out. As I
remember as you look at the component side of the amp, the pin is on the
left end. I don't remember any other exterior connections. 
Good Luck,  73
Jim KA2AJH  Wellsville, N.Y. 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Perryman
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 9:36 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] A couple of Micor questions..

First, thanks to all who responded to my requests for info regarding
interfacing the RC-210.  The repeater is on the air and functioning
reasonably well!

I do have another question though...  I have a cont.-duty PA (Micor
cont duty on 40MHz split) for it, and the interconnect board I have does not
have the header pins for interfacing it.  So it goes without saying I also
do not have the associated cabling.  Does anyone have info regarding how to
make the outboard PA play?  My question is, what gets tied to where with
regard to the interconnect board and the PA.
I couldn't find what I was looking for in my manual, as it is for an
intermittant-duty compa-station.  Actually I can't find much info in my
manual regarding this PA.  I did notice that it will have to be moved into
the correct band-split so there is still some work in my future...

Thanks again
 73
Mike Perryman
www.k5jmp.us





 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] A couple of Micor questions..

2006-03-13 Thread Mike Perryman
Yup, I was thinking the same thing...  although I may use a small relay to
accomplish this.  Depending on how much current the RC-210 can sink to
ground, gotta check on that.  I don't want to toast the new controller...
 73
Mike Perryman
www.k5jmp.us


  -Original Message-
 From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  On Behalf Of Jim Cicirello
 Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 12:32 PM
 To:   Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject:  RE: [Repeater-Builder] A couple of Micor questions..
 
 Mike, 
 How about getting the ground you need for the PA from your controller
 instead of the backplane? When the controller goes into PTT it gives you
 the timing you need, i.e. the tail, etc. If the controller goes to ground
 on the PTT, you could get your ground there. If it goes high, you could
 use a transistor to invert the positive to ground. You wouldn't have to go
 to the backplane. This is one approach that may be simple?
 
 Good Luck   73 
 
 Jim KA2AJH  Wellsville, N.Y. 
 
 _
 From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Perryman
 Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 10:52 AM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] A couple of Micor questions..
 
 Thanks Jim,
 I thought that was the case, but wasn't sure.  I had played with putting
 one of these amps on a 2m machine about 5yrs ago...  but didn't recall
 just exactly how I made it play.  There is a single pin below what looks
 to be metering attachments (4 each, in a parelellagram above it).  The
 only other question would be the header pins on the transmitter
 interconnect board and how they figure into the mess...??  I have 2 other
 chassis, and they have the header pins...  just didn't want to have to do
 major surgery to change the interconnect board.
 
 Thanks again,
  73
 Mike Perryman
 www.k5jmp.us
 
 
-Original Message-
   From:   Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  On Behalf Of Jim Cicirello
   Sent:   Monday, March 13, 2006 10:36 AM
   To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
   Subject:RE: [Repeater-Builder] A couple of Micor questions..
 
   Mike, If the low band PA's are the same wiring configuration as the
 VHF Hi, there is a pin on the end of the Amp which must be grounded when
 you transmit. Other than that, it is just 12+, Exciter in and RF out. As I
 remember as you look at the component side of the amp, the pin is on the
 left end. I don't remember any other exterior connections. 
   Good Luck,  73
   Jim KA2AJH  Wellsville, N.Y. 
 
   _
   From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Perryman
   Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 9:36 AM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] com
   Subject: [Repeater-Builder] A couple of Micor questions..
 
   First, thanks to all who responded to my requests for info regarding
 interfacing the RC-210.  The repeater is on the air and functioning
 reasonably well!
 
   I do have another question though...  I have a cont.-duty PA (Micor
 cont duty on 40MHz split) for it, and the interconnect board I have does
 not have the header pins for interfacing it.  So it goes without saying I
 also do not have the associated cabling.  Does anyone have info regarding
 how to make the outboard PA play?  My question is, what gets tied to where
 with regard to the interconnect board and the PA.
   I couldn't find what I was looking for in my manual, as it is for an
 intermittant-duty compa-station.  Actually I can't find much info in my
 manual regarding this PA.  I did notice that it will have to be moved into
 the correct band-split so there is still some work in my future...
 
   Thanks again
73
   Mike Perryman
   www.k5jmp.us
 




 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] A couple of Micor questions..

2006-03-13 Thread Ken Arck
At 12:41 PM 3/13/2006 -0500, you wrote:

Yup, I was thinking the same thing...  although I may use a small relay to
accomplish this.  Depending on how much current the RC-210 can sink to
ground, gotta check on that.  I don't want to toast the new controller...

---The PTT output of the RC210 can sink 500 ma at up to 90 volts. Same for
every output actually :-)

Ken
--
President and CTO - Arcom Communications
Makers of the world famous RC210 Repeater Controller and accessories.
http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html
Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and
we offer complete repeater packages!
AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] A couple of Micor questions..

2006-03-13 Thread Mike Perryman
Thanks Ken...  no sooner looked that up than you chimed-in.  Responsive as
ever!!
How much battery is required for the battery backup?  Looks like it is diode
protected so I don't have to worry about boiling (or worse) a small gel
cell  but wanted to check with you..
mike

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Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 12:48 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] A couple of Micor questions..


At 12:41 PM 3/13/2006 -0500, you wrote:

Yup, I was thinking the same thing...  although I may use a small relay to
accomplish this.  Depending on how much current the RC-210 can sink to
ground, gotta check on that.  I don't want to toast the new controller...

---The PTT output of the RC210 can sink 500 ma at up to 90 volts. Same for
every output actually :-)

Ken

--
President and CTO - Arcom Communications
Makers of the world famous RC210 Repeater Controller and accessories.
http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html
Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and
we offer complete repeater packages!
AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000
http://www.irlp.net





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RE: [Repeater-Builder] A couple of Micor questions..

2006-03-13 Thread Ken Arck
At 12:55 PM 3/13/2006 -0500, you wrote:
Thanks Ken...  no sooner looked that up than you chimed-in.  Responsive as
ever!!
How much battery is required for the battery backup?  Looks like it is diode
protected so I don't have to worry about boiling (or worse) a small gel
cell  but wanted to check with you..

---Oh.. 6 volts or so should be plenty to keep the clock alive (assuming
by how much you mean voltage?). It would take more to actually operate
the controller (as low as 10 volts should work). 

If all you want to do is keep the clock alive, 4 AA alkalines should pretty
much last forever for that purpose.

Ken
--
President and CTO - Arcom Communications
Makers of the world famous RC210 Repeater Controller and accessories.
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