Re: [Repeater-Builder] Any suggestion on repeater controllers using radio link to irlp without audopatches...
At 12:07 PM 9/28/2007, you wrote: >Ken Arck wrote: > >Not true, that transmitter needs to be ID'ed. To keep that ID from >being "heard" by the receiver at the IRLP node, CTCSS control is >required. (Or other cheesy solutions like audio notch filters, but even >then you have "quiet" key-ups being seen by the IRLP receiver, which >isn't "right" either.) <---Yea you're right. I dunno why I spaced on the ID requirements but I did! Ken (back to writing code and not making dumb postings.) -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net "We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!"
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Any suggestion on repeater controllers using radio link to irlp without audopatches...
Ken Arck wrote: > Unless the IRLP connection is made directly to one of the Ports. Then > CTCSS is irrelevent > > <---Actually, I want to clarify this a bit. If he plans on using a > radio link between the controller and IRLP Node itself, CTCSS control > is still irrelevant as we're not dealing with a repeating radio > therefore there should be no hang time. In which case, the link xmtr > can encode continuously without any "outside" control needed. Not true, that transmitter needs to be ID'ed. To keep that ID from being "heard" by the receiver at the IRLP node, CTCSS control is required. (Or other cheesy solutions like audio notch filters, but even then you have "quiet" key-ups being seen by the IRLP receiver, which isn't "right" either.) > Then all that matters is that the controller controlling the link > radio (at the repeater end) doesn't pass IDs or courtesy tones down > the link. And just about any controller will do that properly. One *must* ID the transmitter on the link radio toward the IRLP node and away from it both, for it to be a legal link. Away from it's easy, just mix in the CW ID's at the soundcard of the node, but from the repeater down to the node, you gotta jump through hoops. If you want it "done right" anyway... Nate WY0X
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Any suggestion on repeater controllers using radio link to irlp without audopatches...
Unless the IRLP connection is made directly to one of the Ports. Then CTCSS is irrelevent <---Actually, I want to clarify this a bit. If he plans on using a radio link between the controller and IRLP Node itself, CTCSS control is still irrelevant as we're not dealing with a repeating radio therefore there should be no hang time. In which case, the link xmtr can encode continuously without any "outside" control needed. Then all that matters is that the controller controlling the link radio (at the repeater end) doesn't pass IDs or courtesy tones down the link. And just about any controller will do that properly. Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net "We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!"
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Any suggestion on repeater controllers using radio link to irlp without audopatches...
Ken Arck wrote: > At 11:39 AM 9/28/2007, you wrote: > > >> In an IRLP setup, when done properly, in that repeate with a separate >> IRLP radio link configuration -- you'll also need a way to ID the link >> toward the IRLP node without PASSING it through the IRLP node, so >> toggling CTCSS is a nice way to do that. > >Then CTCSS is irrelevent He said "link" I thought... that implies the IRLP is "somewhere else". Well, he'll have to be a lot more specific... plenty of us here with knowledge on how to do the various options... (GRIN)... Nate
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Any suggestion on repeater controllers using radio link to irlp without audopatches...
At 11:39 AM 9/28/2007, you wrote: >In an IRLP setup, when done properly, in that repeate with a separate >IRLP radio link configuration -- you'll also need a way to ID the link >toward the IRLP node without PASSING it through the IRLP node, so >toggling CTCSS is a nice way to do that.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Any suggestion on repeater controllers using radio link to irlp without audopatches...
larry allen wrote: > Any suggestion on repeater controllers using radio link to irlp repeater > does not have audopatch... > > Larry ve3fxq Are you asking which repeater controllers can handle a link radio attached to one of their ports? There's a lot of them that can do that... In an IRLP setup, when done properly, in that repeate with a separate IRLP radio link configuration -- you'll also need a way to ID the link toward the IRLP node without PASSING it through the IRLP node, so toggling CTCSS is a nice way to do that. Nothing on the market will do that directly in the controller other than the S-Com 7330 (since it generates its own CTCSS if you connect it correctly to your radio), but a vast number of multi-port controllers besides that one, can control whether or not an off-board CTCSS encoder is active via logic-outputs. Maybe I'm misunderstanding your question. Nate WY0X
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Any suggestion on repeater controllers using radio link to irlp without audopatches...
At 10:07 AM 9/27/2007, you wrote: >Any suggestion on repeater controllers using radio link to irlp repeater >does not have audopatch... <---Our RC210 works great with IRLP. See here: http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/rc210/rc210.html Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net "We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!"
[Repeater-Builder] Any suggestion on repeater controllers using radio link to irlp without audopatches...
Any suggestion on repeater controllers using radio link to irlp repeater does not have audopatch... Larry ve3fxq