Re: [Repeater-Builder] Audio Recorder
Mike Morris WA6ILQ wrote: > > John: > You may want to keep that 286 for yourself. A lot of the Moto software that > is used to program the synthesized radios (like Maxtrac, MT-1000, Spectra, > Saber, etc) will not run on anything faster than 100mhz. That's odd... they run fine on my XP2500+ HP laptop. I had a bear of a time putting DOS on it, but other than that, piece of cake. I decided to fix my K6II-300 machine (with Win98b) since I couldn't get the 1225 stuff to run properly on the new one (XP won't grant it serial port access). Win98 seems to be the only thing that will run everything. The new CPS won't run in DOS, and XP won't allow DOS programs access to the serial port (although it runs the DOS programs fine - even Syntor X9000). I don't remember what version of DOS I put on my new machine. Come to think of it, it might be Win98's or Win95's DOS (minus the Windows program). Yes, I'm using dual boot - two partitions. If anyone knows how to 'bribe' XP to give serial port access to DOS programs, please let me know! Yes, this is on-topic, as programming repeaters is part of the issue. Joe M. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Audio Recorder
At 04:52 PM 2/7/04 -0600, you wrote: >Mike: > >Do the Moto programs need a serial port or a parallel port? serial - on either COM1 or COM2. I'm not sure when COM3 and COM4 were added... I know that the early ones didn't have it. >I have three Gateway Handbook 40 Mhz 486DX computers. These >are fairly small monochrome display with a serial port. >Unfortunately the parallel port needs an adaptor to get to >a DB25 connector and the floppy drive also needs a cable >to run on the parallel port. > >Would these be suitable for programming, assuming I can get >the program onto the harddrive? I have one of the parallel >port adaptors and one of the floppy cables for these computers. The RSS installed from floppies - and came on a mix of 5.25 and 3.5" disks. Personally I'd leave the originals in the file cabinet - maybe the home cabinet - and copy to 3.5" disks and install from them. Then put the install disks into a separate file cabinet - at the office. Then use the floppy drive to install the software onto one of the laptops. I'd look around for a old copy of LapLink - I have version 5 around here somewhere. It allows you to replicate a drive, a directory or a subdirectory between two machines. It uses a null modem cable between the two machines serial ports. Install it on the desktop and the laptop. On your desktop you'd create a directory - maybe call it "LAPTOP-C". Then I'd connect the desktop to the laptop with the cable and use LapLink to copy the entire laptop C drive to the desktop. This gives you a total backup. If the laptop gets messed up you can boot from a DOS floppy, format the laptop drive, then swap floppies to one with the LapLink program on it, and LapLink a complete image back onto the laptop. It's also a easy way to keep two laptops as a total clone of the other. >Micheal Salem N5MS > >Mike Morris WA6ILQ wrote: > > John: > > You may want to keep that 286 for yourself. A lot of the Moto software > that > > is used to program the synthesized radios (like Maxtrac, MT-1000, Spectra, > > Saber, etc) will not run on anything faster than 100mhz. There are > tricks to > > slow down newer computers, but it's a lot less problematical to just > keep an > > old 286, 386 or 486 alive. The "breakpoint" seems to be a 486-66 or > 486-100 > > and DOS 5. The problem is that the Moto software guys were hardware > > engineers and not programmers and used software timing loops to "throttle" > > the flow of the data in and out of the serial port. Fast machines > "break" the > > serial port drivers. > > > > So if you have a working 286, 386 or 486 and if you think you ever might be > > needing to run Moto's "Radio Service Software" - RSS for short - keep that > > old clunker. > > > > Personally, I have a 286 desktop and a while back I set up a couple of > > IBM 700-series color Thinkpads (486-66) for a friend. I boosted the laptop > > internal hard drive from 200meg to 2 gig (the replacement drives cost $25 > > each). The laptop plugs into a docking station with a CD-ROM drive and > > a large hard drive in it. I can back up the entire laptop hard drive > by doing > > a simple XCOPY from the internal hard drive to the docking station hard > > drive. > > > > And I'd like a copy of that announcement program if you end up zipping > it... > > > > Mike WA6ILQ > > > > At 07:44 AM 2/7/04 -0500, "John Clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>Don, > >> > >>I have a 286 computer that the TV station used for music going to > >>commercial out of the news. It runs in dos. > >>If you can't find something similar in your "dogpile" searches, > >>(learned something new myself, though I prefer 'google') let me know. > >>I'm sure the program is small enough to zip up and FTP if not e-mail. > >>I will be glad to do it for you, if for no other reason than you've given > >>me a good idea of what to do with the old thing! > >> > >>Another option: We have a satellite fed "radio station in a box" on our > >>tower that uses a tiny walkman-style MP3 player that has all the IDs > >>and such on it. They ran wires to it to trigger from the computer. It > >>looks so out of place in the nice rack of broadcast gear, but it works! > >> > >>John R Clark > >>WCTV 6 Television Engineering > >>(850) 893- EXT 205 > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Audio Recorder
Try this Don http://www.davee.com/scanrec/ Regards, rich On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 14:20:36 -0800 Mike Morris WA6ILQ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > At 06:24 PM 2/6/04 +, you wrote: > > >Can anyone tell Me of a Software that would let Me take a old > >computer and a sound card and use that on a repeater, Would like > >one with a Time and Date stamp . > > > >Thanks Don KA9QJG/R > > Don, are you looking for a recorder or a player? Do you want the > computer to record the repeater traffic for logging or do you want > something to do announcements on the repeater? > > If it's a logging system, look for a program called "Scanner > Recorder" > > Mike WA6ILQ > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Audio Recorder
At 06:24 PM 2/6/04 +, you wrote: >Can anyone tell Me of a Software that would let Me take a old >computer and a sound card and use that on a repeater, Would like >one with a Time and Date stamp . > >Thanks Don KA9QJG/R Don, are you looking for a recorder or a player? Do you want the computer to record the repeater traffic for logging or do you want something to do announcements on the repeater? If it's a logging system, look for a program called "Scanner Recorder" Mike WA6ILQ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Audio Recorder
Mike: Do the Moto programs need a serial port or a parallel port? I have three Gateway Handbook 40 Mhz 486DX computers. These are fairly small monochrome display with a serial port. Unfortunately the parallel port needs an adaptor to get to a DB25 connector and the floppy drive also needs a cable to run on the parallel port. Would these be suitable for programming, assuming I can get the program onto the harddrive? I have one of the parallel port adaptors and one of the floppy cables for these computers. Micheal Salem N5MS Mike Morris WA6ILQ wrote: > John: > You may want to keep that 286 for yourself. A lot of the Moto software that > is used to program the synthesized radios (like Maxtrac, MT-1000, Spectra, > Saber, etc) will not run on anything faster than 100mhz. There are tricks to > slow down older computers, but it's a lot less problematical to just keep an > old 286, 386 or 486 alive. The "breakpoint" seems to be a 486-66 or 486-100 > and DOS 5. The problem is that the Moto software guys were hardware > engineers and not programmers and used software timing loops to "throttle" > the flow of the data in and out of the serial port. Fast machines "break" the > serial port drivers. > > So if you have a working 286, 386 or 486 and if you think you ever might be > needing to run Moto's "Radio Service Software" - RSS for short - keep that > old clunker. > > Personally, I have a 286 desktop and a while back I set up a couple of > IBM 700-series color Thinkpads (486-66) for a friend. I boosted the laptop > internal hard drive from 200meg to 2 gig (the replacement drives cost $25 > each). The laptop plugs into a docking station with a CD-ROM drive and > a large hard drive in it. I can back up the entire laptop hard drive by doing > a simple XCOPY from the internal hard drive to the docking station hard > drive. > > And I'd like a copy of that announcement program if you end up zipping it... > > Mike WA6ILQ > > At 07:44 AM 2/7/04 -0500, "John Clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>Don, >> >>I have a 286 computer that the TV station used for music going to >>commercial out of the news. It runs in dos. >>If you can't find something similar in your "dogpile" searches, >>(learned something new myself, though I prefer 'google') let me know. >>I'm sure the program is small enough to zip up and FTP if not e-mail. >>I will be glad to do it for you, if for no other reason than you've given >>me a good idea of what to do with the old thing! >> >>Another option: We have a satellite fed "radio station in a box" on our >>tower that uses a tiny walkman-style MP3 player that has all the IDs >>and such on it. They ran wires to it to trigger from the computer. It >>looks so out of place in the nice rack of broadcast gear, but it works! >> >>John R Clark >>WCTV 6 Television Engineering >>(850) 893- EXT 205 >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Audio Recorder
John: You may want to keep that 286 for yourself. A lot of the Moto software that is used to program the synthesized radios (like Maxtrac, MT-1000, Spectra, Saber, etc) will not run on anything faster than 100mhz. There are tricks to slow down older computers, but it's a lot less problematical to just keep an old 286, 386 or 486 alive. The "breakpoint" seems to be a 486-66 or 486-100 and DOS 5. The problem is that the Moto software guys were hardware engineers and not programmers and used software timing loops to "throttle" the flow of the data in and out of the serial port. Fast machines "break" the serial port drivers. So if you have a working 286, 386 or 486 and if you think you ever might be needing to run Moto's "Radio Service Software" - RSS for short - keep that old clunker. Personally, I have a 286 desktop and a while back I set up a couple of IBM 700-series color Thinkpads (486-66) for a friend. I boosted the laptop internal hard drive from 200meg to 2 gig (the replacement drives cost $25 each). The laptop plugs into a docking station with a CD-ROM drive and a large hard drive in it. I can back up the entire laptop hard drive by doing a simple XCOPY from the internal hard drive to the docking station hard drive. And I'd like a copy of that announcement program if you end up zipping it... Mike WA6ILQ At 07:44 AM 2/7/04 -0500, "John Clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Don, > >I have a 286 computer that the TV station used for music going to >commercial out of the news. It runs in dos. >If you can't find something similar in your "dogpile" searches, >(learned something new myself, though I prefer 'google') let me know. >I'm sure the program is small enough to zip up and FTP if not e-mail. >I will be glad to do it for you, if for no other reason than you've given >me a good idea of what to do with the old thing! > >Another option: We have a satellite fed "radio station in a box" on our >tower that uses a tiny walkman-style MP3 player that has all the IDs >and such on it. They ran wires to it to trigger from the computer. It >looks so out of place in the nice rack of broadcast gear, but it works! > >John R Clark >WCTV 6 Television Engineering >(850) 893- EXT 205 >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >- Original Message - >From: "ka9qjg1" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: >Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 1:24 PM >Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Audio Recorder > > > Can anyone tell Me of a Software that would let Me take a old > > computer and a sound card and use that on a repeater, Would like > > one with a Time and Date stamp . > > > > Thanks Don KA9QJG/R Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Audio Recorder
Don, I have a 286 computer that the TV station used for music going to commercial out of the news. It runs in dos. If you can't find something similar in your "dogpile" searches, (learned something new myself, though I prefer 'google') let me know. I'm sure the program is small enough to zip up and FTP if not e-mail. I will be glad to do it for you, if for no other reason than you've given me a good idea of what to do with the old thing! Another option: We have a satellite fed "radio station in a box" on our tower that uses a tiny walkman-style MP3 player that has all the IDs and such on it. They ran wires to it to trigger from the computer. It looks so out of place in the nice rack of broadcast gear, but it works! John R Clark WCTV 6 Television Engineering (850) 893- EXT 205 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "ka9qjg1" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 1:24 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Audio Recorder > Can anyone tell Me of a Software that would let Me take a old > computer and a sound card and use that on a repeater, Would like > one with a Time and Date stamp . > > Thanks Don KA9QJG/R > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Audio Recorder
Can anyone tell Me of a Software that would let Me take a old computer and a sound card and use that on a repeater, Would like one with a Time and Date stamp . Thanks Don KA9QJG/R Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
