[Repeater-Builder] Mobile Duplexer Question

2004-10-18 Thread T.J.




Iacquireda Phelps Dodge 636 3/3 mobile duplexer tuned for TX freq. of 163.8xxx and a RX freq. of 167.5xxx. What I was wondering was if this could be tuned down into the ham band with any success for a mobile repeater using some hand held radios. I was looking in my Tessco catalog and saw that this unit resembles the RFS Celwave 636-6A-3/3 with specifications of: Freq. range 164-174 Mhz, max power 50 watts, min. separation 4.5 Mhz, insertion loss 1.2 db, isolation 80 db both TX and RX. I then looked at the the RFS Celwave 636-6A-1/3, which is exactly the same aappearanceand specs. except for the freq. range, which is 144-154 Mhz.That made me question, are these duplexers the same onlytuned from the factory differently giving it the slightly different model number. Or are they completely different inside and not worth the trouble of retuning. The tuning rod are sticking out a good ways, about an inch. So maybe there
 is some room for adjustment. If anyone has messed around with a ssimilarunit or has any info on this unit and could share their stories of success or other wise (if I should just toss it as useless junk) I would greatly appreciate the info. 

Thanks for all the good info on this list, T.J.

73 KC8LTS













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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mobile Duplexer Question

2004-10-18 Thread Jim B.

T.J. wrote:

 I acquired a Phelps Dodge 636 3/3 mobile duplexer tuned for TX freq.
 of 163.8xxx and a RX freq. of 167.5xxx.  What I was wondering was if
 this could be tuned down into the ham band with any success for a
 mobile repeater using some hand held radios.  I was looking in my
 Tessco catalog and saw that this unit resembles the RFS Celwave
 636-6A-3/3 with specifications of: Freq. range 164-174 Mhz, max power
 50 watts, min. separation 4.5 Mhz, 

There's your answer right there-4.5 Mhz is bigger than the entire 2M ham 
band. No, it's not practical to rebuild them to handle a narrower split.

If you want a portable/mobile repeater, you should look towards UHF. The 
in/out spacing on 2M doesn't make it easy to do anything portable.
On UHF however, the whole thing, including duplexer and power supply, 
can be put in a desktop-size box, about the size of a full size HF rig.
-- 
Jim Barbour
WD8CHL





 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Mobile Duplexer Question

2004-10-18 Thread Mike Perryman

Our local ARES group put together a portable 2m repeater...  it is a 6 ft
rack cabinet disguised as a fly-away case.  Un-plug the power, and
feedlines, buckle the sides on and you are ready to go...  just don't forget
the 6 guys needed to move it.  The Vertex can be re-programmed with a
laptop...  but the cans are another matter.  Crude tuning can be done with a
ht and SWR/power meter.  We used this same repeater when the fruit-loops
flew that airplane into the Pentagon.  It performed very well, just not my
idea of portable.

I saw several FEMA boxes that had been retired on eBay a while back..  minus
the radios.  You might try looking in the industrial radio section for a
cheap building block to start with.  The box was approx 14 inches square,
and about 12 inches deep.

Good luck on your project..
mike

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T.J. wrote:

 I acquired a Phelps Dodge 636 3/3 mobile duplexer tuned for TX freq.
 of 163.8xxx and a RX freq. of 167.5xxx.  What I was wondering was if
 this could be tuned down into the ham band with any success for a
 mobile repeater using some hand held radios.  I was looking in my
 Tessco catalog and saw that this unit resembles the RFS Celwave
 636-6A-3/3 with specifications of: Freq. range 164-174 Mhz, max power
 50 watts, min. separation 4.5 Mhz,

There's your answer right there-4.5 Mhz is bigger than the entire 2M ham
band. No, it's not practical to rebuild them to handle a narrower split.

If you want a portable/mobile repeater, you should look towards UHF. The
in/out spacing on 2M doesn't make it easy to do anything portable.
On UHF however, the whole thing, including duplexer and power supply,
can be put in a desktop-size box, about the size of a full size HF rig.
--
Jim Barbour
WD8CHL






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