[Repeater-Builder] RE: TASMA makes a move to take over coordinating responsibilities for the 440 band

2009-05-04 Thread Eric Lemmon
This could get real interesting, real fast, since the big difference between
SCRRBA and TASMA band plans is whether the 70cm repeater inputs should be
above or below the outputs.  They are opposite polarities! 

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY

-Original Message-
From: Jeff [mailto:jeff.92...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 3:30 PM
To: repeaterownersassociat...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: TASMA makes a move to take over coordinating responsibilities
for the 440 band

Larry,

In my personal opinion, I would not want a repeater trustee, or repeater
owner to be heading up a coordinating committee. NO6B, as I recall,
has been both while on various decision making positions at TASMA.

Also, anyone on TASMA or SCRBBA should NOT be considered for
any coordination of any kind while also engaged in coordination, and
even after leaving a coordination group, should give up their rights
to a new coordination for some period, say 5  years.

There is probably a desire on the part of some 2-meter repeater
owners to take over some of the 440 coordinations to further their
global expansion plans, or linking plans, or whatever they have in
mind for 440.

Good luck.

Jeff, W6FCC
Formerly WA4EGT



--- On Mon, 5/4/09, larryw6lar larryw6...@verizon.net wrote:



From: larryw6lar larryw6...@verizon.net
Subject: Re: TASMA makes a move to take over coordinating
responsibilities for the 440 band
To: repeaterownersassociat...@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, May 4, 2009, 11:14 AM



WA6ARC wrote:
 A storm is brewing in Southern California as TASMA makes a move to
 take over coordinating responsibilities for the 440 band. In what
one
 repeater owner referred to as a turf war, others believe the
move
 will streamline the process, eliminate duplication and cut costs
of
 services by eliminating SCRRBA.

 Multiple complaints have been heard over the years about the lack
of
 cooperation with repeater owners and SCRRBA leadership. A group of
 repeater owners recently approached TASMA and requested that TASMA
 assume the role of coordinator of the 440 band and the new board
at
 TASMA agreed in principle to move ahead with the idea.

 TASMA established a working group at the December meeting and the
 group has issued a recommendation to the members to change the
bylaws
 of TASMA to become the 440 band coordinator.
 Below are the proposed changes that will be voted on by TASMA
 membership at the next general meeting.


 1. Meeting began with a discussion of the proposed bylaw changes
 necessary to enable 440 coordination. The bylaw changes had been
 revised based on the discussions in the April 25 meeting. Two set
of
 changes were presented. The first marked Vote 1 consisted of
three
 bylaw changes that needed to be made to enable 440 coordination.
The
 second marked Vote 2 was a bylaw change to change the
organizations
 name. The bylaws were reviewed and were accepted without any
changes.

 2. The draft motion to be presented to the membership to enable
440
 coordination was reviewed and discussed. There was a discussion
about
 wording changes Bob NO6B wanted to see in the second paragraph.
All
 attendees agreed to change the motion to incorporate the changes
Bob
 proposed to the committee. The discussion also touched on how 70
 centimeter functional standards might differ from 2 Meter
standards.
 All attendees agreed to start the process using the 2 meter
standards
 and to have the Technical Committee decide the functional standard
 changes necessary for 70 centimeters using standard TASMA
procedures.

 3. The section of the motion to provide grandfathered coordination
was
 discussed. The discussion centered around the length of time of
the
 transition period in which grandfathered coordinations would be
 allowed. The discussion was about how much time was reasonable to
 submit a RFC for grandfathered coordination and how fast the
Technical
 Committee could respond to grandfather RFCs. There was concern
that
 the Technical Committee may be overwhelmed by the volume of
 grandfathered coordination requests. There was also concern that
lack
 of a deadline would create problems for the Technical Committee in
the
 long run. After considerable discussion, the attendees decided to
set
 the grandfather RFC time limit to expire 12/31/11. The time period
was
 set for six months to inform the amateur community about the
changes
 and for eighteen months to submit the grandfather RFC. The
attendees
 also decided that the deadline applied to the submission of the
 grandfather RFC to 

RE: [Repeater-Builder] RE: TASMA makes a move to take over coordinating responsibilities for the 440 band

2009-05-04 Thread wa6vpl
Eric,

 

I think you are referring to the differences between northern and southern
California 440 coordination administered by SCRRBA and NARCC.  The northern
coordinator is NARCC (Northern Amateur Relay Council of California -
http://www.narcc.org/).  Northern CA is low output and southern CA is high
output.  Not only does this issue exist, there is the southern 20 kHz
channel steps versus the northern 25 kHz channel steps to contend with.
Someday there may be a uniform 440 band plan for this region of the U.S.

 

Jim

   

 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Lemmon
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 5:47 PM
To: repeaterownersassociat...@googlegroups.com
Cc: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] RE: TASMA makes a move to take over coordinating
responsibilities for the 440 band

 






This could get real interesting, real fast, since the big difference between
SCRRBA and TASMA band plans is whether the 70cm repeater inputs should be
above or below the outputs. They are opposite polarities! 

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY








Re: [Repeater-Builder] RE: TASMA makes a move to take over coordinating responsibilities for the 440 band

2009-05-04 Thread MCH
There was one nationwide (minus the polarity) until NARCC changed...

Joe M.

wa6vpl wrote:
 
 
 Eric,
 
  
 
 I think you are referring to the differences between northern and 
 southern California 440 coordination administered by SCRRBA and NARCC.  
 The northern coordinator is NARCC (Northern Amateur Relay Council of 
 California - http://www.narcc.org/).  Northern CA is low output and 
 southern CA is high output.  Not only does this issue exist, there is 
 the southern 20 kHz channel steps versus the northern 25 kHz channel 
 steps to contend with.  Someday there may be a uniform 440 band plan for 
 this region of the U.S.
 
  
 
 Jim
 

 
  
 
 
 
 *From:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
 [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric Lemmon
 *Sent:* Monday, May 04, 2009 5:47 PM
 *To:* repeaterownersassociat...@googlegroups.com
 *Cc:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject:* [Repeater-Builder] RE: TASMA makes a move to take over 
 coordinating responsibilities for the 440 band
 
  
 
 
 
 
 This could get real interesting, real fast, since the big difference between
 SCRRBA and TASMA band plans is whether the 70cm repeater inputs should be
 above or below the outputs. They are opposite polarities!
 
 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
 
 
 
 
 


RE: [Repeater-Builder] RE: TASMA makes a move to take over coordinating responsibilities for the 440 band

2009-05-04 Thread Eric Lemmon
Oops!  You're absolutely correct.  Must be that continuous loss of brain
cells that teetotalers keep warning me about...

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
 

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Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 7:10 PM
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Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] RE: TASMA makes a move to take over
coordinating responsibilities for the 440 band



Eric,

 

I think you are referring to the differences between northern and southern
California 440 coordination administered by SCRRBA and NARCC.  The northern
coordinator is NARCC (Northern Amateur Relay Council of California -
http://www.narcc.org/ http://www.narcc.org/ ).  Northern CA is low output
and southern CA is high output.  Not only does this issue exist, there is
the southern 20 kHz channel steps versus the northern 25 kHz channel steps
to contend with.  Someday there may be a uniform 440 band plan for this
region of the U.S.

 

Jim

   

 



From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Lemmon
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 5:47 PM
To: repeaterownersassociat...@googlegroups.com
Cc: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] RE: TASMA makes a move to take over coordinating
responsibilities for the 440 band

 






This could get real interesting, real fast, since the big difference between
SCRRBA and TASMA band plans is whether the 70cm repeater inputs should be
above or below the outputs. They are opposite polarities! 

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY