Re: [possible spam] [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Maxar mods for 6M? Vertex FTL-1011 and Kenwood TK-6110
Thanks for the info! I will be lookin into this. 73 - Original Message - From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri Jan 30 08:12:28 2009 Subject: [possible spam] [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Maxar mods for 6M? Vertex FTL-1011 and Kenwood TK-6110 Norm, I wrote a little prg./ utility to change the freq. data in the KPG59D programming software.. How it works is, you program a freq. in the 40.xxx-43.yyy mhz range.. Save the file, exit KPG59D and then run that file through my program KWLB2HAM prg. Start KPG59D again and read the file back in and you'll have 6M freq's in there.. It supports 10M's too.. It converts any freq. in the 30.xxx mhz range to 29.xxx mhz and 40.xxx - 43.yyy mhz to 50.xxx - 53.yyy mhz, leaving everything else alone.. The program only supports KPG59D software for the TK-6110 molibe and TK-190 HT.. With careful tuning, Skipp told me he has gotten the TK-6110-2 to be able to work both 10M 6M at the same time. I don't know about the the TK-190-2 going to 6M, but I know of one TK-190-1 on 10M with very little effert.. Skipp told me there is a hacked version of KPG59D called KPG59X, but he discovered a bug and found KWLB2HAM with the latest KPG59D to work without any problems.. I hope to include support of the TK-690 someday.. KWLB2HAM.EXE can be downloaded at: http://home.roadrunner.com/~n2mci/exe/KWLB2HAM.EXE http://home.roadrunner.com/~n2mci/exe/KWLB2HAM.EXE KWLB2HAM was based off my conversion program KW900EZP which allows most KW 900mhz radios on to the Ham Band.. I also have one for one of the KW UHF rptr's that doesn't have a way to go below 450 Mhz.. -73, Pete N2MCI --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com , NORM KNAPP nkn...@... wrote: Hi Skip I work for a Kenwood shop. I have installed dozens of TK-6110's. I tried to get one to program into 6m, but the software wouldn't let me. How do you do it? 73 de N5NPO
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Maxar mods for 6M? Vertex FTL-1011 and Kenwood TK-6110
Norm, I wrote a little prg./ utility to change the freq. data in the KPG59D programming software.. How it works is, you program a freq. in the 40.xxx-43.yyy mhz range.. Save the file, exit KPG59D and then run that file through my program KWLB2HAM prg. Start KPG59D again and read the file back in and you'll have 6M freq's in there.. It supports 10M's too.. It converts any freq. in the 30.xxx mhz range to 29.xxx mhz and 40.xxx - 43.yyy mhz to 50.xxx - 53.yyy mhz, leaving everything else alone.. The program only supports KPG59D software for the TK-6110 molibe and TK-190 HT.. With careful tuning, Skipp told me he has gotten the TK-6110-2 to be able to work both 10M 6M at the same time. I don't know about the the TK-190-2 going to 6M, but I know of one TK-190-1 on 10M with very little effert.. Skipp told me there is a hacked version of KPG59D called KPG59X, but he discovered a bug and found KWLB2HAM with the latest KPG59D to work without any problems.. I hope to include support of the TK-690 someday.. KWLB2HAM.EXE can be downloaded at: http://home.roadrunner.com/~n2mci/exe/KWLB2HAM.EXE KWLB2HAM was based off my conversion program KW900EZP which allows most KW 900mhz radios on to the Ham Band.. I also have one for one of the KW UHF rptr's that doesn't have a way to go below 450 Mhz.. -73, Pete N2MCI --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, NORM KNAPP nkn...@... wrote: Hi Skip I work for a Kenwood shop. I have installed dozens of TK-6110's. I tried to get one to program into 6m, but the software wouldn't let me. How do you do it? 73 de N5NPO
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Maxar mods for 6M? Vertex FTL-1011 and Kenwood TK-6110
I have a Motorola Maxar, plate number D31TRA2300AK I scanned through the Repeater builder site and didn't find many hits on the model. I want to put this on 6M - any experience on how difficult it would be to insert a 6M crystal set/realign? Any thoughts or referrals would be most appreciated The Maxar Radios do go out of band ... but when you travel farther from the design as-built range mods become much more intense. In specific the receiver pre-selector and some of the (injection) stages become cumbersome to optimize any distance from square one. But I've done or been involved with a few UHF Conversions and they do make fairly bullet proof radios for our past packet radio work (even at 9600 baud). If you have a high range 42-50 MHz (as an example) radio you might be able to move it into the lower end of the 6 meter band... but probably not easily into the higher 3MHz section without serious modifications. The Maxar is a low-end, economy radio that may be difficult to convert to 6m. Actually... the Moxy was the low-end model... the Maxar Radios came in a few different flavors and they were not cheap or considered low tier by any means... well maybe when held against some of Motorhead's really high end (expensive) radios. Maxar radios are/were solid fairly well designed radios... If you buy your crystals from a reputable house like ICM, they will come with an appropriate compensation capacitor to provide rough temperature compensation- but it still drifts far more than a good channel element would. Yeah but if you order the crystal right... it's more than good enough... especially at/in low band. I bought a 2-channel MaxTrac (D51MJA93A5AK) two years ago, and paid $35 for it- one of the best deals I've ever made! It is/was a very, very good deal... Some of the Vertex FTL-1011 low band radios are also sleepers. Dealing with the software is a potential cluster... but it can be sorted out and made to work. If you find/buy the Kenwood TK-6110 low band mobile I'll tell you how to make it cover 29.5 to 54 MHz with excellente' performance. (... of course as a Kenwood Dealer I'm biased). If you can get the Maxar cheap and you have the time and patience of job... you can get it up on 6 meters. But some of us are asking how practical that is when some of the newer programmable radios can be had for nearly a song (fairly cheap compared to their original cost). cheers, skipp skipp025 at yahoo.com
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Maxar mods for 6M? Vertex FTL-1011 and Kenwood TK-6110
How about a GE delta low band. There programmable with 128 channels w/990 control head. 90- 100 watts and they tune fairly easy, no modifications. Dean. --- On Thu, 1/29/09, skipp025 skipp...@yahoo.com wrote: From: skipp025 skipp...@yahoo.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Maxar mods for 6M? Vertex FTL-1011 and Kenwood TK-6110 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, January 29, 2009, 11:11 PM I have a Motorola Maxar, plate number D31TRA2300AK I scanned through the Repeater builder site and didn't find many hits on the model. I want to put this on 6M - any experience on how difficult it would be to insert a 6M crystal set/realign? Any thoughts or referrals would be most appreciated The Maxar Radios do go out of band ... but when you travel farther from the design as-built range mods become much more intense. In specific the receiver pre-selector and some of the (injection) stages become cumbersome to optimize any distance from square one. But I've done or been involved with a few UHF Conversions and they do make fairly bullet proof radios for our past packet radio work (even at 9600 baud). If you have a high range 42-50 MHz (as an example) radio you might be able to move it into the lower end of the 6 meter band... but probably not easily into the higher 3MHz section without serious modifications. The Maxar is a low-end, economy radio that may be difficult to convert to 6m. Actually... the Moxy was the low-end model... the Maxar Radios came in a few different flavors and they were not cheap or considered low tier by any means... well maybe when held against some of Motorhead's really high end (expensive) radios. Maxar radios are/were solid fairly well designed radios... If you buy your crystals from a reputable house like ICM, they will come with an appropriate compensation capacitor to provide rough temperature compensation- but it still drifts far more than a good channel element would. Yeah but if you order the crystal right... it's more than good enough... especially at/in low band. I bought a 2-channel MaxTrac (D51MJA93A5AK) two years ago, and paid $35 for it- one of the best deals I've ever made! It is/was a very, very good deal... Some of the Vertex FTL-1011 low band radios are also sleepers. Dealing with the software is a potential cluster... but it can be sorted out and made to work. If you find/buy the Kenwood TK-6110 low band mobile I'll tell you how to make it cover 29.5 to 54 MHz with excellente' performance. (... of course as a Kenwood Dealer I'm biased). If you can get the Maxar cheap and you have the time and patience of job... you can get it up on 6 meters. But some of us are asking how practical that is when some of the newer programmable radios can be had for nearly a song (fairly cheap compared to their original cost). cheers, skipp skipp025 at yahoo.com
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Maxar mods for 6M?
Denny, I would stay away for those Maxar's. They were never a very good radio, but they were a lot cheaper than buying a Maxtrac or Mitrek at the time they came out. I would stick with trying to find a 42-50 MHz Maxtrac or other synthesized radio. If you really want something in a crystal controlled radio, I would try and find a GE MVP or Motorola Mitrek 42-50 MHz radio. The MVP's are a front mount or under dash radio and about the same style and age as the Maxar, but are a much better radio. The Mitrek in my opinion is a big step up over the MVP, but they are little harder to interface to, since they are a rear mount radio with a remote control head. Let me know if I can be of any help. Joe - WA7JAW If you find a synthesized radio and need help programming it, let me know and I may be able to give you a hand or program it for you. --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Dennis Ashworth k...@... wrote: Tnx Eric - that may be good advice. I did find manuals ...not at $58, but still plenty expensive ... and I'd still need a crystal ($25-30). I want to replace a 6M beacon so RX not an issue ... but will need to mod for CW. This mod (in my limited experience) usually means getting into things and keying in front of the driver - also not very optimal. I might just build something myself - not tough if crystal controlled at 50Mhz, CW and 10-15w output max. Thanks Dennis, K7FL Battle Ground, WA == Eric Lemmon wrote: Dennis, The Maxar is a low-end, economy radio that may be difficult to convert to 6m. I tried to convert some VHF high-band Maxars to 2m, and found their performance to be disappointing- even after doing all of the capacitor changes. I must assume that the low-band models may be equally problematic. If you buy your crystals from a reputable house like ICM, they will come with an appropriate compensation capacitor to provide rough temperature compensation- but it still drifts far more than a good channel element would. You really should have the service manual on-hand before trying to modify the radio out of band. The good news is that manual 6881033E75 is still available from Motorola Parts. The bad news is that it costs about $58. My advice is to pass on the Maxar and find a low-band MaxTrac. I bought a 2-channel MaxTrac (D51MJA93A5AK) two years ago, and paid $35 for it- one of the best deals I've ever made! Other than programming it to 6m and tweaking the VCOs, it works perfectly without any modification. That may be the exception to the rule, but it just happened to work for me. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Ashworth Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 8:48 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Maxar mods for 6M? I have a Motorola Maxar, plate number D31TRA2300AK I scanned through the Repeater builder site and didn't find many hits on the model. I want to put this on 6M - any experience on how difficult it would be to insert a 6M crystal set/realign? Any thoughts or referrals would be most appreciated Tnx Dennis, K7FL Battle Ground, WA Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Maxar mods for 6M? Vertex FTL-1011 and Kenwood TK-6110
Hi Skip I work for a Kenwood shop. I have installed dozens of TK-6110's. I tried to get one to program into 6m, but the software wouldn't let me. How do you do it? 73 de N5NPO - Original Message - From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu Jan 29 22:11:56 2009 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Maxar mods for 6M? Vertex FTL-1011 and Kenwood TK-6110 I have a Motorola Maxar, plate number D31TRA2300AK I scanned through the Repeater builder site and didn't find many hits on the model. I want to put this on 6M - any experience on how difficult it would be to insert a 6M crystal set/realign? Any thoughts or referrals would be most appreciated The Maxar Radios do go out of band ... but when you travel farther from the design as-built range mods become much more intense. In specific the receiver pre-selector and some of the (injection) stages become cumbersome to optimize any distance from square one. But I've done or been involved with a few UHF Conversions and they do make fairly bullet proof radios for our past packet radio work (even at 9600 baud). If you have a high range 42-50 MHz (as an example) radio you might be able to move it into the lower end of the 6 meter band... but probably not easily into the higher 3MHz section without serious modifications. The Maxar is a low-end, economy radio that may be difficult to convert to 6m. Actually... the Moxy was the low-end model... the Maxar Radios came in a few different flavors and they were not cheap or considered low tier by any means... well maybe when held against some of Motorhead's really high end (expensive) radios. Maxar radios are/were solid fairly well designed radios... If you buy your crystals from a reputable house like ICM, they will come with an appropriate compensation capacitor to provide rough temperature compensation- but it still drifts far more than a good channel element would. Yeah but if you order the crystal right... it's more than good enough... especially at/in low band. I bought a 2-channel MaxTrac (D51MJA93A5AK) two years ago, and paid $35 for it- one of the best deals I've ever made! It is/was a very, very good deal... Some of the Vertex FTL-1011 low band radios are also sleepers. Dealing with the software is a potential cluster... but it can be sorted out and made to work. If you find/buy the Kenwood TK-6110 low band mobile I'll tell you how to make it cover 29.5 to 54 MHz with excellente' performance. (... of course as a Kenwood Dealer I'm biased). If you can get the Maxar cheap and you have the time and patience of job... you can get it up on 6 meters. But some of us are asking how practical that is when some of the newer programmable radios can be had for nearly a song (fairly cheap compared to their original cost). cheers, skipp skipp025 at yahoo.com
