[Repeater-Builder] Re: Need some advice- Tone and ID for repeater

2009-02-14 Thread lenaw12
Around 700-750 Hz is a comfortable setting, (I'm not sure what
frequency will make you deaf...)

If deafness is really a consideration, turn down the deviation on the
ID to 50% of your voice level and everyone should survive.

As for speed...can your users copy CW? If not...the maximum speed
allowed by the FCC (I think around 20 wpm) gets it out of the way
faster...

LW


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Peter Summerhawk
 wrote:
>
> Morning Crew,
> I need some suggestions on what tone frequency people are using for
the ID
> on their repeater as well as speed for the ID. I am using a repeater
> controller that I can adjust the frequency and speed of the system.
I want
> to use something that can be heard but don't want it to be to high
so they
> users go deaf or have the speed to fast as its all a blur in the id.
> 
> Suggestions?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Peter Summerhawk-N0WRE
>




[Repeater-Builder] Re: Need some advice- Tone and ID for repeater

2009-02-17 Thread skipp025

> But I've never understood the point in trying to "bury"
> the ID or "get it over with." It's not like it prevents 
> anyone from continuing the conversation. 

In work-horse applications most people simply want to get 
the CW ID out of the way. Especially at locations where 
multiple CW audio is received and resent mixed. Linking is 
a great example where a fast non-obtrusive CW ID is better 
applied. 

If the CW ID frequency and level are not well chosen 
values, it can easily and does often interfere with 
an ongoing conversation (exchange of information). 

cheers,
s. 



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need some advice- Tone and ID for repeater

2009-02-17 Thread wd8chl
> --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Peter Summerhawk
>  wrote:
>> Morning Crew,
>> I need some suggestions on what tone frequency people are using for
> the ID
>> on their repeater as well as speed for the ID. I am using a repeater
>> controller that I can adjust the frequency and speed of the system.
> I want
>> to use something that can be heard but don't want it to be to high
> so they
>> users go deaf or have the speed to fast as its all a blur in the id.
>>
>> Suggestions?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Peter Summerhawk-N0WRE

It's pretty subjective. First, for amateur, FCC says no more than 20 WPM 
for an automatic ID. So set it for that-you want it to go out as fast as 
you can to get it out of the way.
Tone pitch is VERY much a matter of taste. I use 520 Hz for some, and 
for ones that I want to be as unobtrusive as possible, the S-Com's will 
let you go down to 260 Hz. It's almost inaudible, but meets the rules 
because if you listen with a radio that does NOT have CTCSS filtering, 
it's quite copyable.
Deviation for a CW ID should be around +/- 1-1.5 KHz. More then that 
will interfere with voice intelligibility.


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need some advice- Tone and ID for repeater

2009-02-17 Thread no6b
At 2/17/2009 06:49, you wrote:
> > --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Peter Summerhawk
> >  wrote:
> >> Morning Crew,
> >> I need some suggestions on what tone frequency people are using for
> > the ID
> >> on their repeater as well as speed for the ID. I am using a repeater
> >> controller that I can adjust the frequency and speed of the system.
> > I want
> >> to use something that can be heard but don't want it to be to high
> > so they
> >> users go deaf or have the speed to fast as its all a blur in the id.
> >>
> >> Suggestions?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Peter Summerhawk-N0WRE
>
>It's pretty subjective. First, for amateur, FCC says no more than 20 WPM
>for an automatic ID.

See my previous post on this subject.

Interesting how different controllers/ID boards seem to have different 
definitions of 20 WPM, as they all sound like they're at different 
speeds.  I set the CW on my controllers to the same speed as the Autocode 
ID boards, as those sound the fastest.

Bob NO6B