Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tower Installation labor rate?
On Tue, 8 Jan 2008, Glenn Little WB4UIV wrote: > It does not seem to make a difference to them as to how high they have > to climb. The same rate for an elevator ride to 2000 feet as a climb > to 150 feet. In that case, feedline costs and tower rent dictate where the antenna sits at. -- Kris Kirby, KE4AHR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> But remember, with no superpowers comes no responsibility. --rly
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Tower Installation labor rate?
> Guy's, anyone know what the current hourly wage that tower > maintenance types charge? > > 73 de Jack - N7OO Like everything else, it varies a whole lot. For a well-equipped and competent crew, figure $75 to $125 an hour depending on what area you're in. Usually that rate is only good for 8 to 10 hours max per day, with overtime/nights/weekends extra. A good crew will usually want three men minimum: two in the air, one on the ground, unless there is no ground work involved such as an inspection, inventory, antenna jumper replacement, etc.. Travel time is typically at half rate for a single truck, full rate for two trucks, but that tends to vary a lot (some charge mileage plus time). Usually there's a minimum too, sometimes half a day, sometimes a full day. If a drum winch is needed, there will usually be an additional equipment charge and usually another guy to run the winch (i.e. 4 men minimum). If the site requires union labor or, alternatively, if non-union work has to be done at union rate, adjust accordingly. Sweeps and documentation may be extra. Also be wary of guys that work for a reputable company but offer to do the work "on the side" as a favor to you as a ham. The company's insurance isn't going to cover them if they're off doing side work. If you find a deal that's "too good to be true", it probably is. Unless the crew is really desperate for work, which these days rarely seems to be the case, chances are they're either under-equipped, ill-trained, or otherwise not qualified to do the job right which not only results in shoddy work but can also be a big liability risk to boot. --- Jeff WN3A
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tower Installation labor rate?
I just got a quote today for $1360.00 to climb a monopole. This is $85.00 per hour for an 8 hour day for two climbers. The tower crew is a 2.5 hour drive away and they would charge us for the full day as we would kill the day for them. If they were in the area (which they often are) and are doing work for another client, they would charge us for one way travel and the other client for one way travel plus the hourly rate for the work done. It does not seem to make a difference to them as to how high they have to climb. The same rate for an elevator ride to 2000 feet as a climb to 150 feet. 73 Glenn WB4UIV At 08:08 PM 01/08/08, you wrote: >Guy's, anyone know what the current hourly wage that tower maintenance >types charge? > >73 de Jack - N7OO > >
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Tower Installation labor rate?
Hello Group! If you are referring to personnel that do antenna/hard-line type install and maintenance on towers, I have recently dealt with two different companies in the Dallas, Texas area that did some work on a 130 foot water tower. One company charged $95.00 and the other charged $125.00 per person, per hour, for what they accomplished on this height/kind of tower. '73 Charlie "It is not the class of license the Amateur holds, but the class of the Amateur that holds the license." Charles Mumphrey Amateur Radio Station Kc5ozh Repeater System: Rowlett Main: 441.325 MHz + 162.2 Dallas: 441.950 MHz + 162.2 Rowlett II: 441.950 MHz + 110.9 Rowlett R.A.C.E.S. Unit 823 http://www.CharliesElectronics.com > Original Message ---- > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Tower Installation labor rate? > From: "Jack Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Tue, January 08, 2008 7:08 pm > To: > Guy's, anyone know what the current hourly wage that tower maintenance types > charge? > 73 de Jack - N7OO
[Repeater-Builder] Tower Installation labor rate?
Guy's, anyone know what the current hourly wage that tower maintenance types charge? 73 de Jack - N7OO
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tower Installation
Also try Champion Towers they have some Gr8 insight of the what NOT to do also it seems like they have a wind chart I think, good for knowing what to expect. Mark Tomany wrote: Doug, Try this link: http://www.rohnindustries.com/ROHNNET/rohnnet2004/html2004/index.html Then click on "On-Line Catalog" on the left side of the page. This will open a PDF screen on the page. Choose the "GT Series" towers, then "25G", and finally "Foundation Details". You can print these out if you need the "engineering diagrams" from Rohn for your project. Also - you might want to bookmark this link - it does not show up readily with a Google search... :-) FWIW, I have a 60' Rohn 25G, set 4' in the ground and bracketed to my house at 28'. (By design, the overall height is 56' above ground.) I then have a 10' mast, with 6' above the crown of the tower, and a Diamond X500NA to the top of that, and - until recently - a Winegard super fringe TV antenna just below that. I also have three other antennas side-mounted about 20' down the tower. This tower has survived 18 years now in northern Illinois, and recently only required that some of the mounting bolts be replaced due to tower movement wear on the bolts themselves - something that I'm told is a fairly common issue. Once the bolts were replaced, the tower was again strong and secure. A 30' tower will surely serve you very well, especially if you decide to bracket that to your house. As some have suggested, make certain that you get your approval in writing before constructing your tower. Good luck on your poroject. 73 de Mark - N9WYS Doug Fitts W7FDF <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: My last posting for 2005 with a question: My home owners association with their CC&R's and other regs [here in my community of Vail, Arizona] has "seen the light" regarding new FCC legislation on antenna and tower installation parameters and height restrictions. They [the association] recently sent me a monthly Newsletter [December issue] which specifically acknowledges word for word, that the "Federal Communications Commission [FCC] passed legislation that prohibits associations from restricting individual members from receiving adequate transmission signals". Yes, I did after reading this fired off an email to the manager of the association [this morning] asking that they send me what is called an Architectural Improvement form so I can submit my "project"...to install a 30 foot Rohn tower for my 900 mhz antenna system and other antennas related to repeater/remotebase and other link systems [a.k.a, antenna farm on a tower]. My question on a typical tower installation and please keep in mind...I have no experience in this area other then as a "helper" with other installations years ago. Can someone direct me to a website or specifically explain how best to "lay the foundation" to install a 30 foot Rohn tower without guy wires. Yes, I plan, once I purchase the tower sections [working on that with a local Ham] to secure the second bottom section to the eave of the house. In short, I think I want to sink/install the first five foot section of the tower into the ground, use rebar for added support and firmness, pour cement to "fill the hole" at the base of a five foot section of the tower, then secure the upper section to the eave of the house with steel brackets [that I may have to have formed and bent to the right config]. I am new at this so any and all suggestions on/from this list would be appreciated so very much. This will be my new 900 mhz repeater and remotebase project for 2006!! The wife and I have been living in our new home now 15 months and I really desire to install a quality antenna system for the three repeaters I currently operate and maintain. So please comment/send thoughts and suggestions on your own experiences with tower installatons. I am looking forward to "getting my hands dirty", digging the hole for the tower and rebar and pouring the cement...and at age 62, I NEED the exercise!! Best 73 and **Happy Holidays** Doug Fitts W7FDF Vail, Arizona U.S.A. Cienega Radio Network 927.8500/R 449.925/R 448.250/R IRLP node 3850 Echolink 47474 -- MZ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. begin:vcard fn:Mark A. Holman n:Holman;Mark A. email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Webmaster, IT Student note;quoted-printable:IT, Student Member IEEE, Life Member ARRL, Assoc. Member SBE, CRO, ARRL= VE=0D=0A= Welcome to the Snowy stuff of Michigan=0D=0A= x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.ab8ru.org version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tower Installation
Doug, Try this link: http://www.rohnindustries.com/ROHNNET/rohnnet2004/html2004/index.html Then click on "On-Line Catalog" on the left side of the page. This will open a PDF screen on the page. Choose the "GT Series" towers, then "25G", and finally "Foundation Details". You can print these out if you need the "engineering diagrams" from Rohn for your project. Also - you might want to bookmark this link - it does not show up readily with a Google search... :-) FWIW, I have a 60' Rohn 25G, set 4' in the ground and bracketed to my house at 28'. (By design, the overall height is 56' above ground.) I then have a 10' mast, with 6' above the crown of the tower, and a Diamond X500NA to the top of that, and - until recently - a Winegard super fringe TV antenna just below that. I also have three other antennas side-mounted about 20' down the tower. This tower has survived 18 years now in northern Illinois, and recently only required that some of the mounting bolts be replaced due to tower movement wear on the bolts themselves - something that I'm told is a fairly common issue. Once the bolts were replaced, the tower was again strong and secure. A 30' tower will surely serve you very well, especially if you decide to bracket that to your house. As some have suggested, make certain that you get your approval in writing before constructing your tower. Good luck on your poroject. 73 de Mark - N9WYS Doug Fitts W7FDF <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: My last posting for 2005 with a question:My home owners association with their CC&R's and other regs [here in my community of Vail, Arizona] has "seen the light" regarding new FCC legislation on antenna and tower installation parameters and height restrictions. They [the association] recently sent me a monthly Newsletter [December issue] which specifically acknowledges word for word, that the "Federal Communications Commission [FCC] passed legislation that prohibits associations from restricting individual members from receiving adequate transmission signals".Yes, I did after reading this fired off an email to the manager of the association [this morning] asking that they send me what is called an Architectural Improvement form so I can submit my "project"...to install a 30 foot Rohn tower for my 900 mhz antenna system and other antennas related to repeater/remotebase and other link systems [a.k.a, antenna farm on a tower].My question on a typical tower installation and please keep in mind...I have no experience in this area other then as a "helper" with other installations years ago.Can someone direct me to a website or specifically explain how best to "lay the foundation" to install a 30 foot Rohn tower without guy wires. Yes, I plan, once I purchase the tower sections [working on that with a local Ham] to secure the second bottom section to the eave of the house. In short, I think I want to sink/install the first five foot section of the tower into the ground, use rebar for added support and firmness, pour cement to "fill the hole" at the base of a five foot section of the tower, then secure the upper section to the eave of the house with steel brackets [that I may have to have formed and bent to the right config].I am new at this so any and all suggestions on/from this list would be appreciated so very much. This will be my new 900 mhz repeater and remotebase project for 2006!! The wife and I have been living in our new home now 15 months and I really desire to install a quality antenna system for the three repeaters I currently operate and maintain.So please comment/send thoughts and suggestions on your own experiences with tower installatons. I am looking forward to "getting my hands dirty", digging the hole for the tower and rebar and pouring the cement...and at age 62, I NEED the exercise!!Best 73 and **Happy Holidays**Doug Fitts W7FDFVail, Arizona U.S.A.Cienega Radio Network927.8500/R449.925/R448.250/RIRLP node 3850Echolink 47474 YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tower Installation
Doug tobad you are not closer to Yuuma Az I would give you some 1/2 inch and 3/8 inch rebar that I have left over from installing the Rhon 25 here. Just remember that the spec sheets from Rhon are the basic and adequate for install at minimum standards.Mine will be guided no CC7R's here. I have the whole rhon package here and can email the manual to you if you wish. Good Luck Rev Robert KE8DMDoug Fitts W7FDF <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: My last posting for 2005 with a question:My home owners association with their CC&R's and other regs [here in my community of Vail, Arizona] has "seen the light" regarding new FCC legislation on antenna and tower installation parameters and height restrictions. They [the association] recently sent me a monthly Newsletter [December issue] which specifically acknowledges word for word, that the "Federal Communications Commission [FCC] passed legislation that prohibits associations from restricting individual members from receiving adequate transmission signals".Yes, I did after reading this fired off an email to the manager of the association [this morning] asking that they send me what is called an Architectural Improvement form so I can submit my "project"...to install a 30 foot Rohn tower for my 900 mhz antenna system and other antennas related to repeater/remotebase and other link systems [a.k.a, antenna farm on a tower].My question on a typical tower installation and please keep in mind...I have no experience in this area other then as a "helper" with other installations years ago.Can someone direct me to a website or specifically explain how best to "lay the foundation" to install a 30 foot Rohn tower without guy wires. Yes, I plan, once I purchase the tower sections [working on that with a local Ham] to secure the second bottom section to the eave of the house. In short, I think I want to sink/install the first five foot section of the tower into the ground, use rebar for added support and firmness, pour cement to "fill the hole" at the base of a five foot section of the tower, then secure the upper section to the eave of the house with steel brackets [that I may have to have formed and bent to the right config].I am new at this so any and all suggestions on/from this list would be appreciated so very much. This will be my new 900 mhz repeater and remotebase project for 2006!! The wife and I have been living in our new home now 15 months and I really desire to install a quality antenna system for the three repeaters I currently operate and maintain.So please comment/send thoughts and suggestions on your own experiences with tower installatons. I am looking forward to "getting my hands dirty", digging the hole for the tower and rebar and pouring the cement...and at age 62, I NEED the exercise!!Best 73 and **Happy Holidays**Doug Fitts W7FDFVail, Arizona U.S.A.Cienega Radio Network927.8500/R449.925/R448.250/RIRLP node 3850Echolink 47474Yahoo! Groups Links<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tower Installation
Be careful of any wording that may require you to remove the tower when you leave. Doing what you plan below may take some expensive equipment to remove. 73, Joe, K1ike At 12:40 AM 12/27/2005 -0700, you wrote: >I think I want to sink/install the first five foot section of >the tower into the ground, use rebar for added support and firmness, >pour cement to "fill the hole" at the base of a five foot section of the >tower, then secure the upper section to the eave of the house with steel >brackets [that I may have to have formed and bent to the right config]. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tower Installation
Try this site: http://www.wb0w.com/Rohn/foundation.htm Chris WilkieW1LKE YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] Tower Installation
My last posting for 2005 with a question: My home owners association with their CC&R's and other regs [here in my community of Vail, Arizona] has "seen the light" regarding new FCC legislation on antenna and tower installation parameters and height restrictions. They [the association] recently sent me a monthly Newsletter [December issue] which specifically acknowledges word for word, that the "Federal Communications Commission [FCC] passed legislation that prohibits associations from restricting individual members from receiving adequate transmission signals". Yes, I did after reading this fired off an email to the manager of the association [this morning] asking that they send me what is called an Architectural Improvement form so I can submit my "project"...to install a 30 foot Rohn tower for my 900 mhz antenna system and other antennas related to repeater/remotebase and other link systems [a.k.a, antenna farm on a tower]. My question on a typical tower installation and please keep in mind...I have no experience in this area other then as a "helper" with other installations years ago. Can someone direct me to a website or specifically explain how best to "lay the foundation" to install a 30 foot Rohn tower without guy wires. Yes, I plan, once I purchase the tower sections [working on that with a local Ham] to secure the second bottom section to the eave of the house. In short, I think I want to sink/install the first five foot section of the tower into the ground, use rebar for added support and firmness, pour cement to "fill the hole" at the base of a five foot section of the tower, then secure the upper section to the eave of the house with steel brackets [that I may have to have formed and bent to the right config]. I am new at this so any and all suggestions on/from this list would be appreciated so very much. This will be my new 900 mhz repeater and remotebase project for 2006!! The wife and I have been living in our new home now 15 months and I really desire to install a quality antenna system for the three repeaters I currently operate and maintain. So please comment/send thoughts and suggestions on your own experiences with tower installatons. I am looking forward to "getting my hands dirty", digging the hole for the tower and rebar and pouring the cement...and at age 62, I NEED the exercise!! Best 73 and **Happy Holidays** Doug Fitts W7FDF Vail, Arizona U.S.A. Cienega Radio Network 927.8500/R 449.925/R 448.250/R IRLP node 3850 Echolink 47474 Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
