RE: [Repeater-Builder] 2 Meter Repeater Antenna Suggestions
Well you are an Amateur operator so how about making one ? has to be cheaper than the price you mentioned , maybe you have friends who can help ? To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com From: nkn...@twowayradio.net Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 21:52:14 -0500 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 2 Meter Repeater Antenna Suggestions Send I am not much of a fan of the Mexican made DB-224E. Having said that, what are your options? Telewave has a HAM discount of 30% off list, but that still puts their equivalant at well over what the going rate for the 224E is. What about RFS Cellwave or Sinclair? Even more costly. Some say you get what youi pay for. Back to the Mexican 224E, still a worthy contender. I just installed one and a couple of it's A and B sisters over the past few months. I had to replace 2 less than 4 years old. One was in good condition despite an obvious lightening hit. Customer just wanted to spend money on a new Sinclair antenna. The other one had somehow gotten water inside the N male connector at the end of the harness. The water got inside the hot glue heat-shrink and then inside the N female on the Heliax. Needless to say, that didn't work too well. If you go with the 224, just make sure to tighten all terminal nuts and weatherproof all the connectors and joints well. Don't assume that the heatshrink with hot glue inside will keep water out. Inspect all factory moldings carefully and take appropriate measures if you have the slightest question about it. If you do, you should get years of good service out of the Mexican Commscope/Andrew DB-224E. 73 de N5NPO Norman Knapp - Original Message - From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com To: Repeater-Builder Sent: Mon Apr 13 20:58:47 2009 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 2 Meter Repeater Antenna Suggestions OK not to open a can of stinky worms..but... I need to buy a NEW 2 Meter Repeater Antenna. I am asking for suggestions. I have heard bad things about the now across the boarder assembled Andrew/DB Prod. Antennas. The 139-150 Split version is available and in stock from Tessco List is $730.00. (and yes I know it can be bought a lot cheaper) And please no suggestions about Diamond or any of the HAM made antennas. These are very poor Repeater Antennas and will not stand up to Mountain top ice and wind. Not to mention their poor performance and noisy Duplex operation. Thanks and 73 Tim K4TDO _ Looking for a place to manage all your online stuff? Explore the new Windows Live . http://www.microsoft.com/australia/windows/windowslive/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 2 Meter Repeater Antenna Suggestions
Our club uses several Comprod antennas on both VHF and UHF and highly recommend them. Quality is exceptional and their service is great to the amateur fraternity. They are priced competitively http://www.comprodcom.com/en/antennas/base/pdf/870series.pdf Roger VA7RS - Original Message - From: Tim Osborne radio1...@gmail.com To: Repeater-Builder Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 6:58 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 2 Meter Repeater Antenna Suggestions OK not to open a can of stinky worms..but... I need to buy a NEW 2 Meter Repeater Antenna. I am asking for suggestions. I have heard bad things about the now across the boarder assembled Andrew/DB Prod. Antennas. The 139-150 Split version is available and in stock from Tessco List is $730.00. (and yes I know it can be bought a lot cheaper) And please no suggestions about Diamond or any of the HAM made antennas. These are very poor Repeater Antennas and will not stand up to Mountain top ice and wind. Not to mention their poor performance and noisy Duplex operation. Thanks and 73 Tim K4TDO Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.54/2055 - Release Date: 04/12/09 13:14:00
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 2 Meter Repeater Antenna Suggestions
I am not much of a fan of the Mexican made DB-224E. Having said that, what are your options? Telewave has a HAM discount of 30% off list, but that still puts their equivalant at well over what the going rate for the 224E is. What about RFS Cellwave or Sinclair? Even more costly. Some say you get what youi pay for. Back to the Mexican 224E, still a worthy contender. I just installed one and a couple of it's A and B sisters over the past few months. I had to replace 2 less than 4 years old. One was in good condition despite an obvious lightening hit. Customer just wanted to spend money on a new Sinclair antenna. The other one had somehow gotten water inside the N male connector at the end of the harness. The water got inside the hot glue heat-shrink and then inside the N female on the Heliax. Needless to say, that didn't work too well. If you go with the 224, just make sure to tighten all terminal nuts and weatherproof all the connectors and joints well. Don't assume that the heatshrink with hot glue inside will keep water out. Inspect all factory moldings carefully and take appropriate measures if you have the slightest question about it. If you do, you should get years of good service out of the Mexican Commscope/Andrew DB-224E. 73 de N5NPO Norman Knapp - Original Message - From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com To: Repeater-Builder Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon Apr 13 20:58:47 2009 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 2 Meter Repeater Antenna Suggestions OK not to open a can of stinky worms..but... I need to buy a NEW 2 Meter Repeater Antenna. I am asking for suggestions. I have heard bad things about the now across the boarder assembled Andrew/DB Prod. Antennas. The 139-150 Split version is available and in stock from Tessco List is $730.00. (and yes I know it can be bought a lot cheaper) And please no suggestions about Diamond or any of the HAM made antennas. These are very poor Repeater Antennas and will not stand up to Mountain top ice and wind. Not to mention their poor performance and noisy Duplex operation. Thanks and 73 Tim K4TDO
RE: [Repeater-Builder] 2 Meter Repeater Antenna Suggestions
Tim, One of the very important factors is to consider your intended coverage area; do you need 360-degree coverage, or is your repeater site off to one side? It is not good planning to put up an omnidirectional antenna, if your intended coverage area is mostly in one direction. A twin dipole with both loops facing in the same direction will give you a cardioid pattern that provides excellent coverage over nearly 180 degrees, plus has smooth vertical coverage for close-in users that may be under the beam of a fiberglass antenna. I have two such VHF antennas in service now, and I would never consider using a fiberglass collinear antenna in those applications. Such dipole antennas are made by Sinclair and Decibel Products, to name two makers. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Osborne Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 6:59 PM To: Repeater-Builder Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 2 Meter Repeater Antenna Suggestions OK not to open a can of stinky worms..but... I need to buy a NEW 2 Meter Repeater Antenna. I am asking for suggestions. I have heard bad things about the now across the border assembled Andrew/DB Prod. Antennas. The 139-150 Split version is available and in stock from Tessco List is $730.00. (and yes I know it can be bought a lot cheaper) And please no suggestions about Diamond or any of the HAM made antennas. These are very poor Repeater Antennas and will not stand up to Mountain top ice and wind. Not to mention their poor performance and noisy Duplex operation. Thanks and 73 Tim K4TDO
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 2 Meter Repeater Antenna Suggestions
At 19:52 4/13/2009, NORM KNAPP wrote: I am not much of a fan of the Mexican made DB-224E. Having said that, what are your options? Telewave has a HAM discount of 30% off list, but that still puts their equivalant at well over what the going rate for the 224E is. What about RFS Cellwave or Sinclair? Even more costly. Some say you get what youi pay for. Back to the Mexican 224E, still a worthy contender. I just installed one and a couple of it's A and B sisters over the past few months. I had to replace 2 less than 4 years old. One was in good condition despite an obvious lightening hit. Customer just wanted to spend money on a new Sinclair antenna. The other one had somehow gotten water inside the N male connector at the end of the harness. The water got inside the hot glue heat-shrink and then inside the N female on the Heliax. Needless to say, that didn't work too well. If you go with the 224, just make sure to tighten all terminal nuts and weatherproof all the connectors and joints well. Don't assume that the heatshrink with hot glue inside will keep water out. Inspect all factory moldings carefully and take appropriate measures if you have the slightest question about it. If you do, you should get years of good service out of the Mexican Commscope/Andrew DB-224E. Hey, if you are going to all that work, might just as well get a Diamond and maintain it. 73 de N5NPO Norman Knapp - Original Message - From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com To: Repeater-Builder Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon Apr 13 20:58:47 2009 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 2 Meter Repeater Antenna Suggestions OK not to open a can of stinky worms..but... I need to buy a NEW 2 Meter Repeater Antenna. I am asking for suggestions. I have heard bad things about the now across the boarder assembled Andrew/DB Prod. Antennas. The 139-150 Split version is available and in stock from Tessco List is $730.00. (and yes I know it can be bought a lot cheaper) And please no suggestions about Diamond or any of the HAM made antennas. These are very poor Repeater Antennas and will not stand up to Mountain top ice and wind. Not to mention their poor performance and noisy Duplex operation. Thanks and 73 Tim K4TDO Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.53/2054 - Release Date: 04/11/09 10:51:00 -- Dave Gomberg, San Francisco NE5EE gomberg1 at wcf dot com All addresses, phones, etc. at http://www.wcf.com/ham/info.html -
