RE: [Repeater-Builder] Celwave CC460-A circulator

2010-08-19 Thread Jeff DePolo

The simplified instructions for tuning an isolator are:

1.  Tune input (tx port) for maximum return loss with antenna port
terminated in 50 ohms and reject load connected to reject port

2.  Tune output (antenna port) for minimum insertion loss, sweeping from tx
port to antenna port, again with reject load connected to reject port

3.  Tune reject port for maximum isolation (i.e. best match into load),
sweeping from antenna port to transmitter port, adjusting for minimum
amplitude

4.  Repeat.

If you're trying to use it far from its design frequency, you may not get it
to meet spec, or you may find that the return loss maximum in step #1
doesn't align well with insertion loss minimum in step 2, or other similar
performance problems.  The Celwaves usually tune over a fairly broad range,
so I think you have a good chance of having it work right, assuming you have
the right test equipment to tune it.

--- Jeff WN3A

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> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Celwave CC460-A circulator
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> Does anyone have a datasheet or tuning instructions for this 
> kind of circulator? It's a single stage with 3 adjustment 
> screws and right now the sticker says it's on 420 MHz and I 
> would like to know how I get a working range from 430 to 440 
> MHz. If somebody can explain without the doc this is fine as well.
> 
> 73
> Martin
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Celwave CC460-A circulator

2010-08-18 Thread Glenn (Butch) Kanvick
Hello Martin

Have you contacted Celwave to see if the have tuning specs usually for
these.
I am not sure if you will get it up to 440 or not.
I was told that they are pretty narrowband, but I might be wrong.

YMMV

Butch, KE7FEL/r

On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 1:18 PM, cruizzer77  wrote:

>
>
> Does anyone have a datasheet or tuning instructions for this kind of
> circulator? It's a single stage with 3 adjustment screws and right now the
> sticker says it's on 420 MHz and I would like to know how I get a working
> range from 430 to 440 MHz. If somebody can explain without the doc this is
> fine as well.
>
> 73
> Martin
>
>  
>


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Celwave CC460-A circulator

2010-08-18 Thread petedcurtis
Hi,

Harold Kinley wrote an excellent article in MRT magazine a few years ago on
aligning circulators.  Maybe they still have re-prints. I have  old contact
details for Harold Kinley taken from MRT magazine. See below. You should
also buy his   *Standard Radio Communications Manual, with Instrumentation
and Testing Techniques. *



Contributing editor Kinley, *MRT's* technical consultant and a certified
electronics technician, is regional communications manager, South Carolina
Forestry Commission, Spartanburg, SC. He is the author of *Standard Radio
Communications Manual, with Instrumentation and Testing Techniques,* which
is available for direct purchase. Write to 204 Tanglewylde Drive,
Spartanburg, SC 29301. His email address is halkin...@charter.net.


On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 3:18 PM, cruizzer77  wrote:

>
>
> Does anyone have a datasheet or tuning instructions for this kind of
> circulator? It's a single stage with 3 adjustment screws and right now the
> sticker says it's on 420 MHz and I would like to know how I get a working
> range from 430 to 440 MHz. If somebody can explain without the doc this is
> fine as well.
>
> 73
> Martin
>
>  
>