Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr II UHF Base Station

2006-02-06 Thread Steve Rubeck



That I am not sure... I am going to be picking up this equipment  sometime this week and have to haul it home before I can check it out.  All my knowledge thus far is what I have heard from 2 different GE  Radio guys on the phone...Thanks!  Chuck Kelsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Is the combining done externally to the two PA units? If so, you should be able to split them and keep one as a reserve.I just picked up a PA that appears was from a similar arrangement. It had two SO-239's on the heatsink side, both entering the PA compartment. Inside, there was no driver board. I drilled and tapped so I could install a driver and it appears to work just fine.ChuckWB2EDV  Hello ALL -I am looking at acquiring a GE Master II UHF Base
 station. This is a 300 watt solid state transmitter, which how I understand it, has 2 PAs running in parallel.I am planning to convert this to repeater use, and use it as a main transmitter, and bring other receive sites in via links into a GE voter.What I am wondering is, can these amps be run separately, or do they always have to run together in parallel?I am thinking that it would be neat to run one amp alone at like 100 watts, then if need be, there is another un-used amp sitting there ready to run.Anyone have any expertise on these?   Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:   
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr II UHF Base Station

2006-02-06 Thread Jeff DePolo WN3A
 I am looking at acquiring a GE Master II UHF Base station. This is a 300
watt solid state transmitter, which how I understand it, has 2 PAs running
in parallel.

It's actually 200 watts, and yes, there are two final PA's, each capable
of 100 watts output, that are combined.  However, each final PA requires
around 35 watts of drive - the final PA's are really the same as a 100 watt
station PA, but without the 40 watt driver board.

Drive to the PA's is provided by a standard 100 watt PA.  So, what you have
is the exciter (200 mW) driving the intermediate PA (100 watt, attached to
the main station chassis), which gets power-divided to feed the two final
PA's, the output of which then are combined to yield 200 watts.

 What I am wondering is, can these amps be run separately, or do they
always have to run together in parallel?

Not really, since each requires about 35 watts drive, so you still need
something to drive them with.  If you only want 100 watts, then just run the
100 watt IPA to the antenna and leave the two final PA's on the shelf as
spare parts. 

--- Jeff





 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr II UHF Base Station

2006-02-06 Thread Charles Miller
Steve,

Yes you can. This base uses 1 RF PA to drive 2 RF PA's. There is a splitter
and combiner before the 2 PA's and after. You can remove the splitter and
combiner but you will need to turn down the 1st PA. It is not hard to do but
you would be best to run the as is, just lower the drive a little and have
about 200 watts out. They will run cool, last a long time, and give you less
trouble in the long run.

I have one here, and it runs 150 watts and does not even get warm. I also
have one that was modified and it runs 125 watts. It does get a little warm
but not bad. I have fans on them to help keep them cool.

Charles Miller, WD5EEH

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 Hello ALL -

  I am looking at acquiring a GE Master II UHF  Base station. This is a 300
watt solid state transmitter, which how I  understand it, has 2 PAs running
in parallel.
  I am planning to  convert this to repeater use, and use it as a main
transmitter, and  bring other receive sites in via links into a GE voter.

   What I am wondering is, can these amps be run separately, or do they
always have to run together in parallel?

   I am thinking that it would be neat to run one amp alone at like 100
watts, then if need be, there is another un-used amp sitting there  ready to
run.

   Anyone have any expertise on these?


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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr II UHF Base Station

2006-02-05 Thread Q
Its been a while,but from what I remember-no! They use one PA to drive 
two more which only have the finals and Wilkinson combiners,so they wont 
work stand-alone.Nice find though,I'd use it as is,but prepare to watch 
your electric meter spin a lot faster!!!  73,Lee

Steve Rubeck wrote:

 Hello ALL -

 I am looking at acquiring a GE Master II UHF Base station. This is a 
 300 watt solid state transmitter, which how I understand it, has 2 PAs 
 running in parallel.
 I am planning to convert this to repeater use, and use it as a main 
 transmitter, and bring other receive sites in via links into a GE voter.

 What I am wondering is, can these amps be run separately, or do they 
 always have to run together in parallel?

 I am thinking that it would be neat to run one amp alone at like 100 
 watts, then if need be, there is another un-used amp sitting there 
 ready to run.

 Anyone have any expertise on these?

 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr II UHF Base Station

2006-02-05 Thread Neil McKie

  I had access to a Motorola MSR2000 some time back.  The only way 
 /\/\ would ship it was at 75 watts output ... the station license 
 said 20 watts.  

  The PA deck consisted of one PA transistor  associated microstrip 
 circuitry driving three more in paralle.  Bypassing the three and 
 using just the driver stage equaled 16? watts ... well within the 
 license limitations. 

  Neil - WA6KLA 



Q wrote:
 
 Its been a while,but from what I remember-no! They use one PA to drive
 two more which only have the finals and Wilkinson combiners,so they wont
 work stand-alone.Nice find though,I'd use it as is,but prepare to watch
 your electric meter spin a lot faster!!!  73,Lee
 
 Steve Rubeck wrote:
 
  Hello ALL -
 
  I am looking at acquiring a GE Master II UHF Base station. This is a
  300 watt solid state transmitter, which how I understand it, has 2 PAs
  running in parallel.
  I am planning to convert this to repeater use, and use it as a main
  transmitter, and bring other receive sites in via links into a GE voter.
 
  What I am wondering is, can these amps be run separately, or do they
  always have to run together in parallel?
 
  I am thinking that it would be neat to run one amp alone at like 100
  watts, then if need be, there is another un-used amp sitting there
  ready to run.
 
  Anyone have any expertise on these?
 
  
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