Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

[Neil McKie]

  Another one of a couple of reasons to 'not' visit NC ... 

  Neil - WA6KLA 


mch wrote:
> 
> This is slightly off topic, but I wanted everyone to be aware of 
> what is happening to a NC man who equipped his Chevy Caprice 
> Classic with ham antennas. He is now *charged* with driving a car 
> that resembles a law enforcement vehicle. Apparently that is a law 
> in NC.
> 
> Details here:
> 
> 
> This will be my only post on the subject.
> Please direct any discussion there.
> 
> This could be you if you have many antennas on your car (as many 
> of us do) and drive through NC in anything close to the same model 
> car LE uses (Caprice, Crown Vic, Intrepid, Impalla, Etc, or even 
> any of the clones such as Park Ave or anything based on the same 
> frame).
> 
> Joe M.
> 
>





 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

[Mark A. Holman]

Come to think of it I had a conversation with the 
Michigan State Police Communications department, they told me that  EVERY 
police, Sheriff, and Post has a copy of the Communications Manual , she stated 
weather or not anyone took the time to read it is another story.  and 
Section 508 has a House Bill  called HB 4544 which will change the scanner 
law no permit, but a commission of a crime misdemeanor or a felony has 2 fine 
structures and sentancing guideline .
 
I would not drink a bottle of pop while reading the 
proposed statute.  price is $1,000.00 to $2,000.00 and add 1 to 2 yers jail 
time, money is fwd. to the libary fund.
 
go figgure.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Mathew Quaife 

  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 10:43 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC 
  man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas
  
  What is sad is that NC sold the car to the public and never informed them 
  that it was illegal to use the car for amatuer radio purposes.  As one 
  mentioned, he was not impersonating a police officer, he was wanting to be 
  just like his hero, the fire man.  Argue that one in court, the law says 
  police cars, not fire cars, so if he sticks with that, so goes the law.  
  Called loop holes.  From personal expirience, they are cops, they make 
  decisions, it is up to them to make sure they know they laws they are 
  enforcing, and it seems in this case, unless he did something that made the 
  officer believe he was acting in that of a police officer, that he did not 
  know the laws, just read part of it.
   
  Good case in point, I was stopped by and Indiana State Trooper whom 
  wanted to know why I had a scanner in my car.  As I informed him, it is 
  my ham radio.  He had no clue what it was, or care much for that 
  matter.  He was proceeding to pursue the issue of the law. I quickly 
  pointed out that it is legal for a Ham operator to have such a radio in thier 
  vehicle.  He did not believe me until I pulled the statue out and showed 
  him.  Much to his ignorance, he then proceeded to tell my that I could 
  not have thier frequencies in my radio.  I then word for word read him 
  the law, very nicely, and then informed him that know where in there did it 
  give restrictions on any certain frequencies.  A call back to his command 
  post immediately advised him to be on his very merry way and to basically 
  leave me alone until I broke the law. 
   
  He apologized, made me aware of why his intent was, I agreed there is a 
  problem, but it does not lie with me.  We met to a mutual understanding, 
  and enough was said.  No one got angry, no bad words were spoken, and end 
  of story.  
   
  Unless this officer that arrested him had good reason to pursue the 
  issue, again, we only have his side of the story.  As the trooper had 
  explained to me, if I had showed up in an area that was dispatched for him or 
  his department, then I would have broken the law, and yes there is a law that 
  prevents anyone from showing up at a crime scene.
   
  Mathew
  "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  wrote:
  What's 
really sad is that some cop with nothing better to do can chargesomeone 
for a "crime" like this. It winds up causing the ham to have totake a 
day (or more) off of work to go meet with an attorney, go to court,etc. 
He probably will win, but then he has to pay for it all to defendhimself 
with no recourse against the court, police, etc. for any kind 
ofreimbursement. Pretty sad..Original 
Message:-From: Alan Bradley Jones 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 08:39:29 -0500To: 
Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC 
man charged with 'driving a cop car'due to ham antennasI 
found this on the net, It may be the same 
story.http://www.jars.net/- Original Message - 
From: "Fred Fitte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: 
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 8:06 
AMSubject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop 
car'due to ham antennas> Can someone post the 
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Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 9:04 AM> To: 
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NC man charged with 'driving a copcar'> due to ham 
antennas>> You got to be a member to get the message, I am not 
going to sign up justto> read one message!>> 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

[Chuck Kelsey]

Even a "bad" lawyer should be able to win this one.

Chuck
WB2EDV



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>I found this on the net, It may be the same story.
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

[Stew]

Well if this fella is found guilty as charged, they should come up
here to Mount Airy where Andy Grifiths car drives around regularly.

Stew N4JSB
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To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop
car' due to ham antennas

Do you have a link to the article?

Richard, N7TGB


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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of mch
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 11:05 PM
To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop
car'
due to ham antennas


This is slightly off topic, but I wanted everyone to be aware of what
is
happening to a NC man who equipped his Chevy Caprice Classic with ham
antennas. He is now *charged* with driving a car that resembles a law
enforcement vehicle. Apparently that is a law in NC.

Details here:
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GovtVShams/>

This will be my only post on the subject.
Please direct any discussion there.

This could be you if you have many antennas on your car (as many of us
do) and drive through NC in anything close to the same model car LE
uses
(Caprice, Crown Vic, Intrepid, Impalla, Etc, or even any of the clones
such as Park Ave or anything based on the same frame).

Joe M.





 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

[Mathew Quaife]

On the contrary, yes there are those officer's whom believe they are above the law, and enjoy the comrodity that it brings at the local coffee break.  Having been involved in law enforcement, both as an officer, equipments repair, and now ems for the past ten years, yes, they do boast about how they got someone, even if they were in the wrong.  As they are humans, they will error, as #$%^$#, they enjoy doing it.  I've listened to them all.
 
Mathew
 
Captainlance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
All too true, but being both a ham , and being in Law Enforcement, I cannot see an officer just giving a ticket for what he perceived as a " cop car"... this violates basic rights guaranteed to us all. Perception is not a basis for a violation, it would seem that there may be parts of the occurrence missing from the story.Lance N2HBA- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 10:26 AMSubject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas> What's really sad is that some cop with nothing better to do can charge> someone for a "crime" like this. It winds up causing the ham to have to> take a day (or more) off of work to go meet with an attorney, go to court,> etc. He probably will win, but
 then he has to pay for it all to defend> himself with no recourse against the court, police, etc. for any kind of> reimbursement. Pretty sad..>>>>> Original Message:> -> From: Alan Bradley Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 08:39:29 -0500> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop > car'> due to ham antennas>>> I found this on the net, It may be the same story.>> http://www.jars.net/>> - Original Message ----- > From: "Fred Fitte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> To: > Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 8:06 AM> Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop > car'> due to ham antennas>>>> Can someone post the
 message>>>> -----Original Message----->> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Garcia>> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 9:04 AM>> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>> Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop> car'>> due to ham antennas>>>> You got to be a member to get the message, I am not going to sign up just> to>> read one message!>>>> -Original Message->> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of mch>> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 2:05 AM>> To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com>> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car'>> due to ham antennas>>>>>> This is slightly
 off topic, but I wanted everyone to be aware of what is>> happening to a NC man who equipped his Chevy Caprice Classic with ham>> antennas. He is now *charged* with driving a car that resembles a law>> enforcement vehicle. Apparently that is a law in NC.>>>> Details here:>> >>>> This will be my only post on the subject.>> Please direct any discussion there.>>>> This could be you if you have many antennas on your car (as many of us>> do) and drive through NC in anything close to the same model car LE uses>> (Caprice, Crown Vic, Intrepid, Impalla, Etc, or even any of the clones>> such as Park Ave or anything based on the same frame).>>>> Joe M.>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yahoo! Groups
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

[Mark A. Holman]

Well the ARRL has Attorney Services that can get the charges dropped in lieu 
of a Civil Law Suit.

If anyone has contact with the ARRL  Regional or District Manager they 
should be notified of this.

nothing more embarassing than a T V , radio , internet news article that 
would really give that area a black eye and the City or County Council would 
have to answer to the Voters, like what happen in Wayland, the City Voters 
sent out a recall ballot last year all politicians were fired as Donald 
Trump would say " Youre Fired ! "   :-)

Mark A. Holman  AB8RU ARRL Life Member
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To: 
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 2:04 AM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due 
to ham antennas


> This is slightly off topic, but I wanted everyone to be aware of what is
> happening to a NC man who equipped his Chevy Caprice Classic with ham
> antennas. He is now *charged* with driving a car that resembles a law
> enforcement vehicle. Apparently that is a law in NC.
>
> Details here:
> 
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> This will be my only post on the subject.
> Please direct any discussion there.
>
> This could be you if you have many antennas on your car (as many of us
> do) and drive through NC in anything close to the same model car LE uses
> (Caprice, Crown Vic, Intrepid, Impalla, Etc, or even any of the clones
> such as Park Ave or anything based on the same frame).
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

[Butch Kanvick]

Oh but he does have lots of recourse.
It is called "false arrest, or selective enforcement". Depending upon the 
state or jurisdiction.
If the law enforcement has only charged him and no one else, then it is 
selective enforcement and he can counter sue in small claims court to 
re-coup his wages, attorney fees and the like and the county does have to 
pay for the loss of work time and his expenses for the issuance of a 
citation that lacks merit.
It depends which jurisdiction issued the citation. He can also go to the 
Victim Assistance program for reimbursement, as he is now a Victim, of an 
over zealous law enforcement officer.
I would sue them all. LOL.
City, state, and the county, plus the officer individually and severally.
The burden of proof is still on the county to prove that he violated some 
part of the statue. I would assume the county attorney would ask to have the 
ticket dismissed, as the statue does not indicate anything about antennas.
He should also research the statues about Ham plates and registration for 
vehicles owned by ham radio operators.

I hope everyone is having a wonderful week.
Butch

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Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 10:26:08 -0400

What's really sad is that some cop with nothing better to do can charge
someone for a "crime" like this. It winds up causing the ham to have to
take a day (or more) off of work to go meet with an attorney, go to court,
etc. He probably will win, but then he has to pay for it all to defend
himself with no recourse against the court, police, etc. for any kind of
reimbursement. Pretty sad..




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From: Alan Bradley Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 08:39:29 -0500
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car'
due to ham antennas


I found this on the net, It may be the same story.

http://www.jars.net/

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Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 8:06 AM
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car'
due to ham antennas


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 > Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 9:04 AM
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 > Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop
car'
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 > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car'
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 > happening to a NC man who equipped his Chevy Caprice Classic with ham
 > antennas. He is now *charged* with driving a car that resembles a law
 > enforcement vehicle. Apparently that is a law in NC.
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 > Details here:
 > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GovtVShams/>
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 > Please direct any discussion there.
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

[Captainlance]

All too true, but being both a ham , and being in Law Enforcement, I cannot 
see an officer just giving a ticket for what he perceived as a " cop car"... 
this violates basic rights guaranteed to us all. Perception is not a basis 
for a violation, it would seem that there may be parts of the occurrence 
missing from the story.
Lance N2HBA
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To: 
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 10:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' 
due to ham antennas


> What's really sad is that some cop with nothing better to do can charge
> someone for a "crime" like this. It winds up causing the ham to have to
> take a day (or more) off of work to go meet with an attorney, go to court,
> etc. He probably will win, but then he has to pay for it all to defend
> himself with no recourse against the court, police, etc. for any kind of
> reimbursement. Pretty sad..
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> From: Alan Bradley Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 08:39:29 -0500
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop 
> car'
> due to ham antennas
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> I found this on the net, It may be the same story.
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> http://www.jars.net/
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> To: 
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> Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop 
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>> -Original Message-----
>> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Garcia
>> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 9:04 AM
>> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop
> car'
>> due to ham antennas
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>> You got to be a member to get the message, I am not going to sign up just
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>> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car'
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>> This is slightly off topic, but I wanted everyone to be aware of what is
>> happening to a NC man who equipped his Chevy Caprice Classic with ham
>> antennas. He is now *charged* with driving a car that resembles a law
>> enforcement vehicle. Apparently that is a law in NC.
>>
>> Details here:
>> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GovtVShams/>
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>> This will be my only post on the subject.
>> Please direct any discussion there.
>>
>> This could be you if you have many antennas on your car (as many of us
>> do) and drive through NC in anything close to the same model car LE uses
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

[Mathew Quaife]

What is sad is that NC sold the car to the public and never informed them that it was illegal to use the car for amatuer radio purposes.  As one mentioned, he was not impersonating a police officer, he was wanting to be just like his hero, the fire man.  Argue that one in court, the law says police cars, not fire cars, so if he sticks with that, so goes the law.  Called loop holes.  From personal expirience, they are cops, they make decisions, it is up to them to make sure they know they laws they are enforcing, and it seems in this case, unless he did something that made the officer believe he was acting in that of a police officer, that he did not know the laws, just read part of it.
 
Good case in point, I was stopped by and Indiana State Trooper whom wanted to know why I had a scanner in my car.  As I informed him, it is my ham radio.  He had no clue what it was, or care much for that matter.  He was proceeding to pursue the issue of the law. I quickly pointed out that it is legal for a Ham operator to have such a radio in thier vehicle.  He did not believe me until I pulled the statue out and showed him.  Much to his ignorance, he then proceeded to tell my that I could not have thier frequencies in my radio.  I then word for word read him the law, very nicely, and then informed him that know where in there did it give restrictions on any certain frequencies.  A call back to his command post immediately advised him to be on his very merry way and to basically leave me alone until I broke the law. 
 
He apologized, made me aware of why his intent was, I agreed there is a problem, but it does not lie with me.  We met to a mutual understanding, and enough was said.  No one got angry, no bad words were spoken, and end of story.  
 
Unless this officer that arrested him had good reason to pursue the issue, again, we only have his side of the story.  As the trooper had explained to me, if I had showed up in an area that was dispatched for him or his department, then I would have broken the law, and yes there is a law that prevents anyone from showing up at a crime scene.
 
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What's really sad is that some cop with nothing better to do can chargesomeone for a "crime" like this. It winds up causing the ham to have totake a day (or more) off of work to go meet with an attorney, go to court,etc. He probably will win, but then he has to pay for it all to defendhimself with no recourse against the court, police, etc. for any kind ofreimbursement. Pretty sad..Original Message:-From: Alan Bradley Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 08:39:29 -0500To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car'due to ham antennasI found this on the net, It may be the same story.http://www.jars.net/- Original Message - From: "Fred Fitte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To:
 Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 8:06 AMSubject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car'due to ham antennas> Can someone post the message>> -Original Message-> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Garcia> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 9:04 AM> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com> Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a copcar'> due to ham antennas>> You got to be a member to get the message, I am not going to sign up justto> read one message!>> -Original Message-> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of mch> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 2:05 AM> To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com> Subject:
 [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car'> due to ham antennas>>> This is slightly off topic, but I wanted everyone to be aware of what is> happening to a NC man who equipped his Chevy Caprice Classic with ham> antennas. He is now *charged* with driving a car that resembles a law> enforcement vehicle. Apparently that is a law in NC.>> Details here:> >> This will be my only post on the subject.> Please direct any discussion there.>> This could be you if you have many antennas on your car (as many of us> do) and drive through NC in anything close to the same model car LE uses> (Caprice, Crown Vic, Intrepid, Impalla, Etc, or even any of the clones> such as Park Ave or anything based on the same frame).>> Joe M.>>> Yahoo! Groups
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

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What's really sad is that some cop with nothing better to do can charge
someone for a "crime" like this. It winds up causing the ham to have to
take a day (or more) off of work to go meet with an attorney, go to court,
etc. He probably will win, but then he has to pay for it all to defend
himself with no recourse against the court, police, etc. for any kind of
reimbursement. Pretty sad..




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From: Alan Bradley Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 08:39:29 -0500
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car'
due to ham antennas


I found this on the net, It may be the same story.

http://www.jars.net/

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From: "Fred Fitte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 8:06 AM
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car'
due to ham antennas


> Can someone post the message
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> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 9:04 AM
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> Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop
car'
> due to ham antennas
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> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car'
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> happening to a NC man who equipped his Chevy Caprice Classic with ham
> antennas. He is now *charged* with driving a car that resembles a law
> enforcement vehicle. Apparently that is a law in NC.
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> Details here:
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GovtVShams/>
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> This will be my only post on the subject.
> Please direct any discussion there.
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

[Joe Montierth]

http://www.jars.net/

This shows a picture of the car, and the text of the
law. From what I read, the car doesn't meet the
criterion because it has no lights. Also, the use of
the car must be with the intent to impersonate a
police officer. I don't know what this guy was doing
when he was stopped for this citation, but unless it
was something that would make you think he was a cop,
I don't think the state has much to stand on. Maybe we
don't know the whole story.

Joe



--- Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Do you have a link to the article?
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> Richard, N7TGB
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> -Original Message-
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> Of mch
> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 11:05 PM
> To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with
> 'driving a cop car'
> due to ham antennas
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> This is slightly off topic, but I wanted everyone to
> be aware of what is
> happening to a NC man who equipped his Chevy Caprice
> Classic with ham
> antennas. He is now *charged* with driving a car
> that resembles a law
> enforcement vehicle. Apparently that is a law in NC.
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> Details here:
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> This will be my only post on the subject.
> Please direct any discussion there.
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> This could be you if you have many antennas on your
> car (as many of us
> do) and drive through NC in anything close to the
> same model car LE uses
> (Caprice, Crown Vic, Intrepid, Impalla, Etc, or even
> any of the clones
> such as Park Ave or anything based on the same
> frame).
> 
> Joe M.


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Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

[Alan Bradley Jones]

I found this on the net, It may be the same story.

http://www.jars.net/

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From: "Fred Fitte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 8:06 AM
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car'
due to ham antennas


> Can someone post the message
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> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Garcia
> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 9:04 AM
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop
car'
> due to ham antennas
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> You got to be a member to get the message, I am not going to sign up just
to
> read one message!
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> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 2:05 AM
> To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car'
> due to ham antennas
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> This is slightly off topic, but I wanted everyone to be aware of what is
> happening to a NC man who equipped his Chevy Caprice Classic with ham
> antennas. He is now *charged* with driving a car that resembles a law
> enforcement vehicle. Apparently that is a law in NC.
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> Details here:
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GovtVShams/>
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> Please direct any discussion there.
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> do) and drive through NC in anything close to the same model car LE uses
> (Caprice, Crown Vic, Intrepid, Impalla, Etc, or even any of the clones
> such as Park Ave or anything based on the same frame).
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

[Richard]

Do you have a link to the article?

Richard, N7TGB


-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of mch
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 11:05 PM
To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car'
due to ham antennas


This is slightly off topic, but I wanted everyone to be aware of what is
happening to a NC man who equipped his Chevy Caprice Classic with ham
antennas. He is now *charged* with driving a car that resembles a law
enforcement vehicle. Apparently that is a law in NC.

Details here:


This will be my only post on the subject.
Please direct any discussion there.

This could be you if you have many antennas on your car (as many of us
do) and drive through NC in anything close to the same model car LE uses
(Caprice, Crown Vic, Intrepid, Impalla, Etc, or even any of the clones
such as Park Ave or anything based on the same frame).

Joe M.





 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

[Fred Fitte]

Can someone post the message

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Garcia
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 9:04 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car'
due to ham antennas

You got to be a member to get the message, I am not going to sign up just to
read one message!

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of mch
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 2:05 AM
To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car'
due to ham antennas


This is slightly off topic, but I wanted everyone to be aware of what is
happening to a NC man who equipped his Chevy Caprice Classic with ham
antennas. He is now *charged* with driving a car that resembles a law
enforcement vehicle. Apparently that is a law in NC.

Details here:
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GovtVShams/>

This will be my only post on the subject.
Please direct any discussion there.

This could be you if you have many antennas on your car (as many of us
do) and drive through NC in anything close to the same model car LE uses
(Caprice, Crown Vic, Intrepid, Impalla, Etc, or even any of the clones
such as Park Ave or anything based on the same frame).

Joe M.






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RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

[Rich Garcia]

You got to be a member to get the message, I am not going to sign up just to
read one message!

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of mch
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 2:05 AM
To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car'
due to ham antennas


This is slightly off topic, but I wanted everyone to be aware of what is
happening to a NC man who equipped his Chevy Caprice Classic with ham
antennas. He is now *charged* with driving a car that resembles a law
enforcement vehicle. Apparently that is a law in NC.

Details here:


This will be my only post on the subject.
Please direct any discussion there.

This could be you if you have many antennas on your car (as many of us
do) and drive through NC in anything close to the same model car LE uses
(Caprice, Crown Vic, Intrepid, Impalla, Etc, or even any of the clones
such as Park Ave or anything based on the same frame).

Joe M.






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RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

[Fred Fitte]

Joe,

Cannot get the article on the "cop car"

Fred

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Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 2:05 AM
To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due
to ham antennas

This is slightly off topic, but I wanted everyone to be aware of what is
happening to a NC man who equipped his Chevy Caprice Classic with ham
antennas. He is now *charged* with driving a car that resembles a law
enforcement vehicle. Apparently that is a law in NC.

Details here:


This will be my only post on the subject.
Please direct any discussion there.

This could be you if you have many antennas on your car (as many of us
do) and drive through NC in anything close to the same model car LE uses
(Caprice, Crown Vic, Intrepid, Impalla, Etc, or even any of the clones
such as Park Ave or anything based on the same frame).

Joe M.





 
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