RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GE Delta
Thanks. Yes it is a high split. N3DD3N110TB. The freqs on the label inside are all in the 47 mhz range. Vern From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ka9gpx Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 9:03 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GE Delta > > So now what. I would love to be able to slide this thing into 6m and > use it for something. > > How does one go about programming one of these puppies? I have seen a > lot of different things out on the net but nothing that seems to say > the easy way to get it programmed. Hello Vern, If you have the "2212" chip (as opposed to the xtal vers...) there are several ways to attack the programming issues... None of which is too "EASY" but not too difficult either...Simplest is to find a GE dealer in you area that might have the capabilities to do thatnext would be to purchase any of the programmers made for doing the XR2212 Chip. This chip was also used in the GE Phoenix Series of radios so any programmer for that line should also work...) There are several available, such as the one from "RF GUYS,...There's also one available from the NHRC group,. and if you don't mind building your own, you might try the KG4LNE software and programmer, or the KA9FUR software and programmer. ( just "Google" those sites)..sorry don't have the links handy. There are also what's known as "Downloading Type" Control heads available which will download freq & tone info to the radio every time it's turned on but they too require special (tough to find ) soft/hard-ware... > > Will it slide into 6m by just programming it or does it need to be > modded as well? I've put 2 deltas on 6mtrsI may have gotten lucky, but both "Moved" just fine...No special mods required...They will however need to have the VCO's reset, as well as the Recv. Front-end cavities re-aligned. Also, I cut the power back to 45W for my piece of mind... One Caveat...Are you sure you have a "high-end" split The Deltas came in 3 ranges for the Low band model29-36, 36-42, 42-50, One way to tell is by the Combination number on the radio (if it's still attached)...If you have a "high range" version, the combo number should look something like...N3DD3N060TB...or N3DD3N110TB... The "Key" is the 3rd letter...in this case the "D"(42-50Mhz)...a low end vers.(29-36Mhz)would have a "B" in place of the "D"...a mid range (36-42Mhz) would have a "C" in the 3rd positionPower is indicated by the "060"-60Watt & "110"-110Watt Try the KA9FUR web site for some interfacing ideas (without control head...also Buck's "Packetradio.com" web site...He has some information there about using the Deltas for Packet,..but this will "Guide" you towards a "Non-Control Head" set-up.. Good Luck,... Hope this helps...Hope I didn't use up this month's "Text-Limit" with this answer... 73- Carl KA9GPX > >
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GE Delta
Cool. Thanks! This is very helpful . Mine is for sure a synthesized Delta. I have to order my programmer as well. They do have some just not listed on Ebay right now. Vern From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Brown Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 11:04 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GE Delta I operate all my Rangr's without a control head, and also have a crystal controlled Delta operating packet on a montaintop without a control head. You just have to scope out the pins and apply voltage to the ign +12 and the main +12 to fire them up. Be careful putting a speaker on the Delta, as it uses a floating speaker connection. Do not hook either side of the speaker to ground. I am attaching my mod to run the Delta without a control head. I jumper to a 25 pin D connector to get compatable with common connectors. The two large pins are the high current + and - for the final amp. The Rangr connector is the same as a synthesized Delta, while the older crystal controlled Deltas use the Delta configuration I show here. I am also including the diagram of the connector I plagerized from a packet mod for the Rangr. It is a good description of the layout of the interface connector. 73 - Jim W5ZIT mung_bungholio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Cool. I will check to see if it has the chip. They don't have any programmers listed right now. I will ask them if they have any not listed. How about testing this thing out without a control head? I have a service monitor so I just need to know how to power it up and listen to the speaker and make it tx so that I can see what it is putting out? Thanks, Vern --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> , Jim Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If the unit you are looking at is a programmable type, you can program with the RFGuys programmer by removing the chip and plugging it into their programmer board which plugs into the parallel port of your computer. You have to use DOS to generate the personality (a 256 byte binary file) to move to the chip. They supply a program to generate the personality. > > I use one of these programmers to generate personalities for GE Rangr and GE Phoenix radios. I don't have any programmable Deltas. Some folks have indicated problems getting their computer to work with this programmer, but I use an IBM 390 laptop and it works fine. > > Be aware that there were lots of crystal controlled Deltas made also. You will have to order crystals for those types. To verify that your radio is programmable you will find an XR2212 EEPROM near the microprocessor in a socket. This is the chip you remove and plug into the RFGuys programmer. > > RFGuys markets their unit on Ebay. > > 73 - Jim W5ZIT > > mung_bungholio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well I was over at the junk store looking for UHF commercial radios for > the GMRS project and didn't find anything for that but did find the > drawer unit for a low band GE Delta for $5.00. > > So now what. I would love to be able to slide this thing into 6m and > use it for something. > > How does one go about programming one of these puppies? I have seen a > lot of different things out on the net but nothing that seems to say > the easy way to get it programmed. > > Will it slide into 6m by just programming it or does it need to be > modded as well? > > I know another project but that is how these things happen. Go looking > for one thing and find something else to play with. > > Thanks, > Vern > KI4ONW
