RE: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-820 Timeout Timer Problem - Frustrating!

2005-11-10 Thread N9WYS
Byron,

It sounds like we have identical repeaters - TKR-820 with CAT-300
controllers...  I was pretty certain that I needed to ground Pin 1 before
the external controller would work at all, but I'll go back and check that
out!  

If memory serves me, I grounded it to chassis ground in the repeater itself.
Does Pin 1 need to be brought into and grounded in the CAT-300 controller?
Maybe *that's* where my problem is coming up...

Mark - N9WYS

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Subject: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-820 Timeout Timer Problem - Frustrating!

Hi
  It sound like you do not have pin #1 in the external connector grounded.
It disables the internal controller functions when using an external
connector.

I have an almost identical setup (TKR-820 and Cat 300) and do not have
the problem you mentioned.

But I do not have the manuals only the technical info that is on the
web.

Byron NJ7J







 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-820 Timeout Timer Problem - Frustrating!

2005-11-09 Thread kc8rsr
sounds like you need to try to rewire the whole system, separate
the TX and the RX and wire them into the CAT 300 separately.
i have never been fond of systems that use an internal controller. 
i would rather have 2 separate radios, one for TX and one for RX
and tie them into the controller.
 
just my 2 cents worth.
73
 
 
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Date: 11/09/05 22:24:11
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Subject: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-820 Timeout Timer Problem - Frustrating!
 
Before you all banish me to the outer reaches of Mongolia - or somewhere
else - because of all the questions I keep posing about this machine, please
understand that I have tried to research this issue in the technical
material I have available to me and I keep coming up empty. This is why I
keep prodding. I know there is quite a wealth of knowledge here, so I’m
trying to tap into some of that knowledge…
 
That being said, here’s the latest on this frustrating issue. I have a
TKR-820 interfaced with a CAT-300 repeater controller. The CAT-300 operates
fine, whether the internal controller is turned ON or OFF. The only issue I
have is with the internal timeout timer. Previously, the repeater would shut
itself down after 2-1/2 minutes when the internal controller circuitry was
turned OFF. (REPEAT button OFF) The external controller was set for a much
longer time, so I knew it wasn’t the CAT-300 causing the problem.
 
I went to the site a few days ago, and adjusted the TOT pot on the internal
controller to its maximum (5 min). I then made certain that the external
controller’s TOT was set shorter (4 min) than the internal one – worked just
fine. (So I thought…) I departed.
 
Apparently, I departed prematurely. (No jokes here, OK? Hehehehe) 
 
Anyway, this evening I heard two stations using the repeater and at 5
minutes the repeater dropped. DAMN!! I went back out to the repeater site to
trouble check some more. I found that if I unplug the external controller
and have the internal REPEAT function turned ON, the internal controller
controls the machine – I expected this. (Not what I want!) If I unplug the
external controller and have the REPEAT function turned OFF, the repeater
does not repeat – plug the controller back in, and the repeater works. (This
IS what I want!) However, if I don’t turn the REPEAT function ON, the
repeater times itself out way too soon – I presume that this is because of
the INTERNAL timeout timer… 
 
So, how do I totally disable the internal timeout timer? It is becoming more
apparent that the timeout timer functions in two ways – the first, as a
repeater timeout timer (of course); but secondly, as a “stuck mic” timeout
timer when the radio is in “base station” configuration (simplex operation)…
This has really frustrated me, and now I’m on a quest to figure out just how
to shut that damned internal timeout timer off once and for all. Any
suggestions?? Can I just unplug the internal controller board altogether?
 
Mark – N9WYS
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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