Re: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Off Topic, trying not to re-invent the wheel...
Kris, Sure ban them. You got hundreds of trees and telephone poles down, routes blocked for emergency vehicles, no power or water and you need comm to coordinate things and one is going to say have you attended a class??? I don't think so. Some don't take the time to attend meetings which is so often a few telling stories, but when really needed they show up. I enjoy how people who you've never met will pitch in during a disaster. 73, ron, n9ee/r From: Kris Kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/03/26 Wed PM 03:50:47 CDT To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Off Topic, trying not to re-invent the wheel... On Wed, 26 Mar 2008, Ron Wright wrote: From my 15+ years experience with emergency comm here 90% of those who show up to help NEVER come to meetings. How you going to put them in a training class? You are not. Simple: Ban them from participating in any events unless they are willing at attend that one class. I'm not well versed in Icom radios. Motorola, Yaesu, and Alinco mostly. I've used one Kenwood radio of recent vintage. I am not inclined toward MARS, RACES, etc. However, were I, I would attend such as clas, just as I have attended storm spotter training in the past -- even though my usual response to a storm is just to get as low as possible. :) -- Kris Kirby, KE4AHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] But remember, with no superpowers comes no responsibility. --rly Ron Wright, N9EE 727-376-6575 MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL No tone, all are welcome.
RE: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Off Topic, trying not to re-invent the wheel...
Pardon me if this is blunt, but are these meetings really efficient for training? Or, have they developed a reputation as a monthly nerds night out for guys who like wearing pocketed orange vests in public, and a waste of time for everyone else? If people can't or won't make room in their lives for more meetings, then find ways to train them online, during nets and wherever you can find them. The business and educational worlds do much now with teleconferencing and distance learning. If someone checks into your net often enough to stay fresh on procedures, and demonstrates the ability to handle formal traffic, how much face-to-face training is really needed? 73, Paul, AE4KR _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Wright Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 5:03 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Off Topic, trying not to re-invent the wheel... Kris, Sure ban them. You got hundreds of trees and telephone poles down, routes blocked for emergency vehicles, no power or water and you need comm to coordinate things and one is going to say have you attended a class??? I don't think so. Some don't take the time to attend meetings which is so often a few telling stories, but when really needed they show up. I enjoy how people who you've never met will pitch in during a disaster. 73, ron, n9ee/r From: Kris Kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:kris%40catonic.us us Date: 2008/03/26 Wed PM 03:50:47 CDT To: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Off Topic, trying not to re-invent the wheel... On Wed, 26 Mar 2008, Ron Wright wrote: From my 15+ years experience with emergency comm here 90% of those who show up to help NEVER come to meetings. How you going to put them in a training class? You are not. Simple: Ban them from participating in any events unless they are willing at attend that one class. I'm not well versed in Icom radios. Motorola, Yaesu, and Alinco mostly. I've used one Kenwood radio of recent vintage. I am not inclined toward MARS, RACES, etc. However, were I, I would attend such as clas, just as I have attended storm spotter training in the past -- even though my usual response to a storm is just to get as low as possible. :) -- Kris Kirby, KE4AHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:kris%40catonic.us us But remember, with no superpowers comes no responsibility. --rly Ron Wright, N9EE 727-376-6575 MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL No tone, all are welcome.
Re: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Off Topic, trying not to re-invent the wheel...
At 3/26/2008 16:03, you wrote: Kris, Sure ban them. You got hundreds of trees and telephone poles down, routes blocked for emergency vehicles, no power or water and you need comm to coordinate things and one is going to say have you attended a class??? I don't think so. Maybe EmComm is different, but for public service events I'd rather have a thin staff than an adequate number of clueless hams making us look bad. Bob NO6B
RE: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Off Topic, trying not to re-invent the wheel...
At 3/26/2008 16:54, you wrote: Pardon me if this is blunt, but are these meetings really efficient for training? Or, have they developed a reputation as a monthly nerds night out for guys who like wearing pocketed orange vests in public, and a waste of time for everyone else? If people can't or won't make room in their lives for more meetings, then find ways to train them online, during nets and wherever you can find them. The business and educational worlds do much now with teleconferencing and distance learning. If someone checks into your net often enough to stay fresh on procedures, and demonstrates the ability to handle formal traffic, how much face-to-face training is really needed? One of the things we do at our training meetings for the marathon is get everyone's radio programmed with the net frequencies (only HTs are used, as no one is allowed to park on the course). Kind of hard to do that over the radio or internet. One of the channels is an odd-split portable 2 meter repeater. It's a bit of a challenge to get that one but we manage to get almost everyone's radio programmed (we missed one last year, had an unknown problem with one radio this year that I think was simply a defective radio). Bob NO6B
