RE: [Repeater-Builder] Just a Crazy Thought
The legality aint the point is it ? it's very doable but again why bother with our beginners permits you can find them on Kornflakes packets To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com From: mryan...@tampabay.rr.com Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 02:16:05 -0500 Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Just a Crazy Thought In any event, in the US a 10 meter repeater to be used on 11 meters would not be legal. It would not have been type accepted for that use, the last I checked FM mode was not ‘viable’ on 11 meters up here, and any machine would undoubtedly have more than the legal limit of 4 watts output as well. Of course where there’s a will there’s a way. I would not presume to know the rules ‘down under’ but I hope the idea does not catch on up here. Once the 10 mtr band opens up regularly ( if and when ) it will be a zoo of open access FM repeaters with many of them transmitting at the same time making the band impossible for anyone other than on simplex freqs. It’s tradition…. Have fun down there. - Mike From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Barry Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 1:51 AM To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Just a Crazy Thought I was refering to the fact a 10 metre repeater will easily operate on 11 metres I suspect you misread the post and yes I have an open vk4 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com From: mryan...@tampabay.rr.com Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 01:14:11 -0500 Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Just a Crazy Thought CAN you say LICENSE?? - M From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Barry Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 12:06 AM To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Just a Crazy Thought Of course it is possible 10 metres and 11 are very close together but why would anyone bother ? To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com From: he...@swbell.net Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 20:57:54 -0800 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Just a Crazy Thought Here is a link that has a video on youtube i have heard these before. So it is possible to implement. SD --- On Thu, 2/11/10, i recycle computers kc8...@hotmail.com wrote: From: i recycle computers kc8...@hotmail.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Just a Crazy Thought To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, February 11, 2010, 8:29 PM I have heard numorous urban legends of 27 MHz CB repeaters being built. has anyone ever come across such a thing. if not does anyone think it is even possible from a technical standpoint? the limitations are AM mode, and using any of the 40 CB channels with 4 watts PEP AM or 12 Watts PEP SSB ie: using completely un modified type certified CB gear. Legally a repeater is illegal on CB, but i just want to do an excersize in thought as to what problems someone may run into with such a project, etc. i have seen this questioned asked numorous times through the years and even heard rumors of it actually being done. no one though has actually went deep into the technical aspects of such a project or could point me out to the people who are operating or operated such a setup. Thanks, Rev. Robert P. Chrysafis I Recycle Computers Saving UnWanted PC's From The Landfill One Computer At A Time :) Listen To My Free Live Police Scanner Feed for Tuscaloosa / Northport http://www.radioref erence.com/ apps/audio/ ?feedId=3836 Find your next place with Ninemsn property Looking for a place to rent, share or buy? __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4859 (20100211) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com Browse profiles for free! View photos of singles in your area. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4859 (20100211) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com _ Find a great deal on your next car. Get straight to the Point. http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157637060/direct/01/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Just a Crazy Thought
Yes, they existed. We used split sites with a POTS line between them and VOX operation. RX on 23 and TX on 1 for example. We experimented with CTCSS but it wasn't very reliable with out the FM capture effect. This was in the northeast back in the days of 23 channel CB so the statute of limitations has long since expired. From: i recycle computers kc8...@hotmail.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, February 11, 2010 8:29:25 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Just a Crazy Thought I have heard numorous urban legends of 27 MHz CB repeaters being built. has anyone ever come across such a thing. if not does anyone think it is even possible from a technical standpoint? the limitations are AM mode, and using any of the 40 CB channels with 4 watts PEP AM or 12 Watts PEP SSB ie: using completely un modified type certified CB gear. Legally a repeater is illegal on CB, but i just want to do an excersize in thought as to what problems someone may run into with such a project, etc. i have seen this questioned asked numorous times through the years and even heard rumors of it actually being done. no one though has actually went deep into the technical aspects of such a project or could point me out to the people who are operating or operated such a setup. Thanks, Rev. Robert P. Chrysafis I Recycle Computers Saving UnWanted PC's From The Landfill One Computer At A Time :) Listen To My Free Live Police Scanner Feed for Tuscaloosa / Northport http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?feedId=3836 Yahoo! Groups Links http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Just a Crazy Thought
I personally think as long as you are running in band, not causing out of band interference, and keep at 4 watts or below the FCC won't really care. it seems they only respond when someone runs illegal power with illegal modes who is interfering with stuff outside the regular 40 channels. otherwise they don't seem to care what goes on with cb anymore. - Original Message - From: Bill Smith brsc...@yahoo.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Just a Crazy Thought Yes, they existed. We used split sites with a POTS line between them and VOX operation. RX on 23 and TX on 1 for example. We experimented with CTCSS but it wasn't very reliable with out the FM capture effect. This was in the northeast back in the days of 23 channel CB so the statute of limitations has long since expired. From: i recycle computers kc8...@hotmail.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, February 11, 2010 8:29:25 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Just a Crazy Thought I have heard numorous urban legends of 27 MHz CB repeaters being built. has anyone ever come across such a thing. if not does anyone think it is even possible from a technical standpoint? the limitations are AM mode, and using any of the 40 CB channels with 4 watts PEP AM or 12 Watts PEP SSB ie: using completely un modified type certified CB gear. Legally a repeater is illegal on CB, but i just want to do an excersize in thought as to what problems someone may run into with such a project, etc. i have seen this questioned asked numorous times through the years and even heard rumors of it actually being done. no one though has actually went deep into the technical aspects of such a project or could point me out to the people who are operating or operated such a setup. Thanks, Rev. Robert P. Chrysafis I Recycle Computers Saving UnWanted PC's From The Landfill One Computer At A Time :) Listen To My Free Live Police Scanner Feed for Tuscaloosa / Northport http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?feedId=3836 Yahoo! Groups Links http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Just a Crazy Thought
yes yes. old news and already was stated by me myself. my point is now a days as long as you run legal power on legal channels they won't care if it's remote controlled or not. fcc has bigger fish to fry then a CB repeater running 4 watts. was wondering where the kilo kops were at today :) surprised the thread made it this far. any way. you solved the mystery for me and i have passed it along to the CB forums i am in. some rich little trustfund brat with more money then he knows what to do with will probably read it and wind up building one. - Original Message - From: Brian Raker brian.ra...@gmail.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 2:32 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Just a Crazy Thought It's specified in the US FCC Regs that repeaters (which are essentially remote control stations) are not allowed in the 27MHz CB band. http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/cfr_2008/octqtr/47cfr95.419.htm TITLE 47--TELECOMMUNICATION CHAPTER I--FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION (CONTINUED) PART 95_PERSONAL RADIO SERVICES--Table of Contents Subpart D_Citizens Band (CB) Radio Service Sec. 95.419 (CB Rule 19) May I operate my CB station transmitter by remote control? (a) You may not operate a CB station transmitter by radio remote control. (b) You may operate a CB transmitter by wireline remote control if you obtain specific approval in writing from the FCC. To obtain FCC approval, you must show why you need to operate your station by wireline remote control. If you receive FCC approval, you must keep the approval as part of your station records. See CB Rule 27, Sec. 95.427. (c) Remote control means operation of a CB transmitter from any place other than the location of the CB transmitter. Direct mechanical control or direct electrical control by wire from some point on the same premises, craft or vehicle as the CB transmitter is not considered remote control. -- http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/cfr_2008/octqtr/47cfr95.420.htm Sec. 95.420 (CB Rule 20) May I connect my CB station transmitter to a telephone? (a) You may connect your CB station transmitter to a telephone if you comply with all of the following: (1) You or someone else must be present at your CB station and must-- (i) Manually make the connection (the connection must not be made by remote control); (ii) Supervise the operation of the transmitter during the connection; (iii) Listen to each communication during the connection; and (iv) Stop all communications if there are operations in violation of these rules. (2) Each communication during the telephone connection must comply with all of these rules. (3) You must obey any restriction that the telephone company places on the connection of a CB transmitter to a telephone. (b) The CB transmitter you connect to a telephone must not be shared with any other CB station. (c) If you connect your CB transmitter to a telephone, you must use a phone patch device with has been registered with the FCC. Pretty cut and dry, eh? -Brian On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 11:30 AM, i recycle computers kc8...@hotmail.com wrote: I personally think as long as you are running in band, not causing out of band interference, and keep at 4 watts or below the FCC won't really care. it seems they only respond when someone runs illegal power with illegal modes who is interfering with stuff outside the regular 40 channels. otherwise they don't seem to care what goes on with cb anymore. - Original Message - From: Bill Smith brsc...@yahoo.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Just a Crazy Thought Yes, they existed. We used split sites with a POTS line between them and VOX operation. RX on 23 and TX on 1 for example. We experimented with CTCSS but it wasn't very reliable with out the FM capture effect. This was in the northeast back in the days of 23 channel CB so the statute of limitations has long since expired. From: i recycle computers kc8...@hotmail.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, February 11, 2010 8:29:25 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Just a Crazy Thought I have heard numorous urban legends of 27 MHz CB repeaters being built. has anyone ever come across such a thing. if not does anyone think it is even possible from a technical standpoint? the limitations are AM mode, and using any of the 40 CB channels with 4 watts PEP AM or 12 Watts PEP SSB ie: using completely un modified type certified CB gear. Legally a repeater is illegal on CB, but i just want to do an excersize in thought as to what problems someone may run into with such a project, etc. i have seen this questioned asked numorous times through the years and even heard rumors of it actually
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Just a Crazy Thought
CB Repeaters are illegal? You are assuming that the FCC is paying attention to the CB band-last I talked to them they have walked away from the band-no one is licensed, amps are used by lots of people and the FCC does not have the people or the interest to patrol the band-therefore it has become a no-man's land of 27 MHz garbage-the best thing that could happen is that they start using repeaters and blow themselves out of the water. Andy W6AMS From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of i recycle computers Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 6:29 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Just a Crazy Thought I have heard numorous urban legends of 27 MHz CB repeaters being built. has anyone ever come across such a thing. if not does anyone think it is even possible from a technical standpoint? the limitations are AM mode, and using any of the 40 CB channels with 4 watts PEP AM or 12 Watts PEP SSB ie: using completely un modified type certified CB gear. Legally a repeater is illegal on CB, but i just want to do an excersize in thought as to what problems someone may run into with such a project, etc. i have seen this questioned asked numorous times through the years and even heard rumors of it actually being done. no one though has actually went deep into the technical aspects of such a project or could point me out to the people who are operating or operated such a setup. Thanks, Rev. Robert P. Chrysafis I Recycle Computers Saving UnWanted PC's From The Landfill One Computer At A Time :) Listen To My Free Live Police Scanner Feed for Tuscaloosa / Northport http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?feedId=3836
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Just a Crazy Thought
On some bands a simplex repeater can be used .it records your voice and then replays it back on air from a high point .Repeaters on uhf CB are allowed but linking between them isn't aloud .On commercial frequencies linking of the repeaters is allowed as long as they are owned by the same owner.On 27mhz CB I have heard of repeaters but haven't come across one .A owner of 27mhz can have what is called a remote base which is a uhf CB or 27mhz radio on a hill and is controlled remotely by cable or via radio link from another site .On amateur they can do a lot more with their gear and they are starting to have 29mhz fm repeaters installed around the country .Another type of communication that has been turning up in the background is 27meg fm which as far as I know isn't allowed yet by acma . Thank You ,Ian Wells Kerinvale Comaudio, 361 Camboon road, Biloela.4715 Ph 0749922449 Mb 0409159932 Hm 0749922574 Fx 0749922767 www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au ---Original Message--- From: i recycle computers Date: 12/02/2010 1:29:46 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Just a Crazy Thought I have heard numorous urban legends of 27 MHz CB repeaters being built. has anyone ever come across such a thing. if not does anyone think it is even possible from a technical standpoint? the limitations are AM mode, and using any of the 40 CB channels with 4 watts PEP AM or 12 Watts PEP SSB ie: using completely un modified type certified CB gear. Legally a repeater is illegal on CB, but i just want to do an excersize in thought as to what problems someone may run into with such a project, etc. i have seen this questioned asked numorous times through the years and even heard rumors of it actually being done. no one though has actually went deep into the technical aspects of such a project or could point me out to the people who are operating or operated such a setup. Thanks, Rev. Robert P. Chrysafis I Recycle Computers Saving UnWanted PC's From The Landfill One Computer At A Time :) Listen To My Free Live Police Scanner Feed for Tuscaloosa / Northport http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?feedId=3836 faint_grain.jpg
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Just a Crazy Thought
On Thursday 11 February 2010 21:29:25 i recycle computers wrote: I have heard numorous urban legends of 27 MHz CB repeaters being built. has anyone ever come across such a thing. if not does anyone think it is even possible from a technical standpoint? the limitations are AM mode, and using any of the 40 CB channels with 4 watts PEP AM or 12 Watts PEP SSB ie: using completely un modified type certified CB gear. Legally a repeater is illegal on CB, but i just want to do an excersize in thought as to what problems someone may run into with such a project, etc. i have seen this questioned asked numorous times through the years and even heard rumors of it actually being done. no one though has actually went deep into the technical aspects of such a project or could point me out to the people who are operating or operated such a setup. Thanks, Rev. Robert P. Chrysafis Duplexers would be interesting to get. I can imagine the look on some sales reps face, when asked about pricing for an 11m unit. But you could certainly do a split site, in on channel 1 and out on channel 40 (or whatever actual frequency would be the farthest). Think of 10m repeaters and you've got most of the idea, though interference on 11m might be worse. Or has 11m usage dropped a lot because of cell phones? Me, I've never heard of one in operation. --STeve Andre' wb8wsf en82
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Just a Crazy Thought
On some bands a simplex repeater can be used .it records your voice and then replays it back on air from a high point .Repeaters on uhf CB are allowed but linking between them isn't aloud .On commercial frequencies linking of the repeaters is allowed as long as they are owned by the same owner.On 27mhz CB I have heard of repeaters but haven't come across one .A owner of 27mhz can have what is called a remote base which is a uhf CB or 27mhz radio on a hill and is controlled remotely by cable or via radio link from another site .On amateur they can do a lot more with their gear and they are starting to have 29mhz fm repeaters installed around the country .Another type of communication that has been turning up in the background is 27meg fm which as far as I know isn't allowed yet by acma . Thank You ,Ian Wells Kerinvale Comaudio, 361 Camboon road, Biloela.4715 Ph 0749922449 Mb 0409159932 Hm 0749922574 Fx 0749922767 www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au ---Original Message--- From: STeve Andre' Date: 12/02/2010 1:45:28 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Just a Crazy Thought On Thursday 11 February 2010 21:29:25 i recycle computers wrote: I have heard numorous urban legends of 27 MHz CB repeaters being built. has anyone ever come across such a thing. if not does anyone think it is even possible from a technical standpoint? the limitations are AM mode, and using any of the 40 CB channels with 4 watts PEP AM or 12 Watts PEP SSB ie: using completely un modified type certified CB gear. Legally a repeater is illegal on CB, but i just want to do an excersize in thought as to what problems someone may run into with such a project, etc. i have seen this questioned asked numorous times through the years and even heard rumors of it actually being done. no one though has actually went deep into the technical aspects of such a project or could point me out to the people who are operating or operated such a setup. Thanks, Rev. Robert P. Chrysafis Duplexers would be interesting to get. I can imagine the look on some sales reps face, when asked about pricing for an 11m unit. But you could certainly do a split site, in on channel 1 and out on channel 40 (or whatever actual frequency would be the farthest). Think of 10m repeaters and you've got most of the idea, though interference on 11m might be worse. Or has 11m usage dropped a lot because of cell phones? Me, I've never heard of one in operation. --STeve Andre' wb8wsf en82 faint_grain.jpg
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Just a Crazy Thought
guess now a days you could use 900 MHz Spread Spectrum License Free Radios for the link between sites? - Original Message - From: Ian Wells kerin...@pacific.net.au To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 8:46 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Just a Crazy Thought On some bands a simplex repeater can be used .it records your voice and then replays it back on air from a high point .Repeaters on uhf CB are allowed but linking between them isn't aloud .On commercial frequencies linking of the repeaters is allowed as long as they are owned by the same owner.On 27mhz CB I have heard of repeaters but haven't come across one .A owner of 27mhz can have what is called a remote base which is a uhf CB or 27mhz radio on a hill and is controlled remotely by cable or via radio link from another site .On amateur they can do a lot more with their gear and they are starting to have 29mhz fm repeaters installed around the country .Another type of communication that has been turning up in the background is 27meg fm which as far as I know isn't allowed yet by acma . Thank You ,Ian Wells Kerinvale Comaudio, 361 Camboon road, Biloela.4715 Ph 0749922449 Mb 0409159932 Hm 0749922574 Fx 0749922767 www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au ---Original Message--- From: STeve Andre' Date: 12/02/2010 1:45:28 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Just a Crazy Thought On Thursday 11 February 2010 21:29:25 i recycle computers wrote: I have heard numorous urban legends of 27 MHz CB repeaters being built. has anyone ever come across such a thing. if not does anyone think it is even possible from a technical standpoint? the limitations are AM mode, and using any of the 40 CB channels with 4 watts PEP AM or 12 Watts PEP SSB ie: using completely un modified type certified CB gear. Legally a repeater is illegal on CB, but i just want to do an excersize in thought as to what problems someone may run into with such a project, etc. i have seen this questioned asked numorous times through the years and even heard rumors of it actually being done. no one though has actually went deep into the technical aspects of such a project or could point me out to the people who are operating or operated such a setup. Thanks, Rev. Robert P. Chrysafis Duplexers would be interesting to get. I can imagine the look on some sales reps face, when asked about pricing for an 11m unit. But you could certainly do a split site, in on channel 1 and out on channel 40 (or whatever actual frequency would be the farthest). Think of 10m repeaters and you've got most of the idea, though interference on 11m might be worse. Or has 11m usage dropped a lot because of cell phones? Me, I've never heard of one in operation. --STeve Andre' wb8wsf en82
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Just a Crazy Thought
Possibly .we just use a commercial 450-500mhz licence to link them but you can use a studio link or site to site link licence Thank You ,Ian Wells Kerinvale Comaudio, 361 Camboon road, Biloela.4715 Ph 0749922449 Mb 0409159932 Hm 0749922574 Fx 0749922767 www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au ---Original Message--- From: i recycle computers Date: 12/02/2010 1:50:30 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Just a Crazy Thought guess now a days you could use 900 MHz Spread Spectrum License Free Radios for the link between sites? - Original Message - From: Ian Wells kerin...@pacific.net.au To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 8:46 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Just a Crazy Thought On some bands a simplex repeater can be used .it records your voice and then replays it back on air from a high point .Repeaters on uhf CB are allowed but linking between them isn't aloud .On commercial frequencies linking of the repeaters is allowed as long as they are owned by the same owner.On 27mhz CB I have heard of repeaters but haven't come across one .A owner of 27mhz can have what is called a remote base which is a uhf CB or 27mhz radio on a hill and is controlled remotely by cable or via radio link from another site .On amateur they can do a lot more with their gear and they are starting to have 29mhz fm repeaters installed around the country .Another type of communication that has been turning up in the background is 27meg fm which as far as I know isn't allowed yet by acma . Thank You ,Ian Wells Kerinvale Comaudio, 361 Camboon road, Biloela.4715 Ph 0749922449 Mb 0409159932 Hm 0749922574 Fx 0749922767 www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au ---Original Message--- From: STeve Andre' Date: 12/02/2010 1:45:28 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Just a Crazy Thought On Thursday 11 February 2010 21:29:25 i recycle computers wrote: I have heard numorous urban legends of 27 MHz CB repeaters being built. has anyone ever come across such a thing. if not does anyone think it is even possible from a technical standpoint? the limitations are AM mode, and using any of the 40 CB channels with 4 watts PEP AM or 12 Watts PEP SSB ie: using completely un modified type certified CB gear. Legally a repeater is illegal on CB, but i just want to do an excersize in thought as to what problems someone may run into with such a project, etc. i have seen this questioned asked numorous times through the years and even heard rumors of it actually being done. no one though has actually went deep into the technical aspects of such a project or could point me out to the people who are operating or operated such a setup. Thanks, Rev. Robert P. Chrysafis Duplexers would be interesting to get. I can imagine the look on some sales reps face, when asked about pricing for an 11m unit. But you could certainly do a split site, in on channel 1 and out on channel 40 (or whatever actual frequency would be the farthest). Think of 10m repeaters and you've got most of the idea, though interference on 11m might be worse. Or has 11m usage dropped a lot because of cell phones? Me, I've never heard of one in operation. --STeve Andre' wb8wsf en82 faint_grain.jpg
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Just a Crazy Thought
yeah it's possable. i built a couple years ago before i became a ham. both were split site and linked using a couple GE 4 watt handhelds sitting somewhere on one of the VHF hiband itinerant channels. the first one was ch 1 in and 38 out and all am cause i used Cobra 29's for the transmit and recieve. it didnt work to well really. the second one was way better. i used Connex 3300's for the trans and recieve. these rigs were FM and would go out of band. i used 26.995 (Between ch 3 and 4) with a 103.5 in, and 27.385 (ch 38) out. that one worked great. the only reason i did these was because about 10 of us were running RCI-2950's and 2990's and they could do an offset. and plus we were board. Dave Stephens Sr KF6WJA Grants Pass Or --- On Thu, 2/11/10, i recycle computers kc8...@hotmail.com wrote: From: i recycle computers kc8...@hotmail.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Just a Crazy Thought To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, February 11, 2010, 6:29 PM I have heard numorous urban legends of 27 MHz CB repeaters being built. has anyone ever come across such a thing. if not does anyone think it is even possible from a technical standpoint? the limitations are AM mode, and using any of the 40 CB channels with 4 watts PEP AM or 12 Watts PEP SSB ie: using completely un modified type certified CB gear. Legally a repeater is illegal on CB, but i just want to do an excersize in thought as to what problems someone may run into with such a project, etc. i have seen this questioned asked numorous times through the years and even heard rumors of it actually being done. no one though has actually went deep into the technical aspects of such a project or could point me out to the people who are operating or operated such a setup. Thanks, Rev. Robert P. Chrysafis I Recycle Computers Saving UnWanted PC's From The Landfill One Computer At A Time :) Listen To My Free Live Police Scanner Feed for Tuscaloosa / Northport http://www.radioref erence.com/ apps/audio/ ?feedId=3836
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Just a Crazy Thought
Here is a link that has a video on youtube i have heard these before. So it is possible to implement. SD --- On Thu, 2/11/10, i recycle computers kc8...@hotmail.com wrote: From: i recycle computers kc8...@hotmail.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Just a Crazy Thought To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, February 11, 2010, 8:29 PM I have heard numorous urban legends of 27 MHz CB repeaters being built. has anyone ever come across such a thing. if not does anyone think it is even possible from a technical standpoint? the limitations are AM mode, and using any of the 40 CB channels with 4 watts PEP AM or 12 Watts PEP SSB ie: using completely un modified type certified CB gear. Legally a repeater is illegal on CB, but i just want to do an excersize in thought as to what problems someone may run into with such a project, etc. i have seen this questioned asked numorous times through the years and even heard rumors of it actually being done. no one though has actually went deep into the technical aspects of such a project or could point me out to the people who are operating or operated such a setup. Thanks, Rev. Robert P. Chrysafis I Recycle Computers Saving UnWanted PC's From The Landfill One Computer At A Time :) Listen To My Free Live Police Scanner Feed for Tuscaloosa / Northport http://www.radioref erence.com/ apps/audio/ ?feedId=3836
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Just a Crazy Thought
Link to 11 meter repeaters video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pWB17LzsHk --- On Thu, 2/11/10, i recycle computers kc8...@hotmail.com wrote: From: i recycle computers kc8...@hotmail.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Just a Crazy Thought To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, February 11, 2010, 8:29 PM I have heard numorous urban legends of 27 MHz CB repeaters being built. has anyone ever come across such a thing. if not does anyone think it is even possible from a technical standpoint? the limitations are AM mode, and using any of the 40 CB channels with 4 watts PEP AM or 12 Watts PEP SSB ie: using completely un modified type certified CB gear. Legally a repeater is illegal on CB, but i just want to do an excersize in thought as to what problems someone may run into with such a project, etc. i have seen this questioned asked numorous times through the years and even heard rumors of it actually being done. no one though has actually went deep into the technical aspects of such a project or could point me out to the people who are operating or operated such a setup. Thanks, Rev. Robert P. Chrysafis I Recycle Computers Saving UnWanted PC's From The Landfill One Computer At A Time :) Listen To My Free Live Police Scanner Feed for Tuscaloosa / Northport http://www.radioref erence.com/ apps/audio/ ?feedId=3836
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Of course it is possible 10 metres and 11 are very close together but why would anyone bother ? To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com From: he...@swbell.net Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 20:57:54 -0800 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Just a Crazy Thought Here is a link that has a video on youtube i have heard these before. So it is possible to implement. SD --- On Thu, 2/11/10, i recycle computers kc8...@hotmail.com wrote: From: i recycle computers kc8...@hotmail.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Just a Crazy Thought To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, February 11, 2010, 8:29 PM I have heard numorous urban legends of 27 MHz CB repeaters being built. has anyone ever come across such a thing. if not does anyone think it is even possible from a technical standpoint? the limitations are AM mode, and using any of the 40 CB channels with 4 watts PEP AM or 12 Watts PEP SSB ie: using completely un modified type certified CB gear. Legally a repeater is illegal on CB, but i just want to do an excersize in thought as to what problems someone may run into with such a project, etc. i have seen this questioned asked numorous times through the years and even heard rumors of it actually being done. no one though has actually went deep into the technical aspects of such a project or could point me out to the people who are operating or operated such a setup. Thanks, Rev. Robert P. Chrysafis I Recycle Computers Saving UnWanted PC's From The Landfill One Computer At A Time :) Listen To My Free Live Police Scanner Feed for Tuscaloosa / Northport http://www.radioref erence.com/ apps/audio/ ?feedId=3836 _ Looking for a place to rent, share or buy? Find your next place with ninemsn Property http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157631292/direct/01/
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check this out http://www.youtube.com/v/0pWB17LzsHkhl=en_USfs=1; --- On Thu, 2/11/10, Ian Wells kerin...@pacific.net.au wrote: From: Ian Wells kerin...@pacific.net.au Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Just a Crazy Thought To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, February 11, 2010, 9:54 PM Possibly .we just use a commercial 450-500mhz licence to link them but you can use a studio link� or site to site link licence Thank You ,Ian Wells Kerinvale Comaudio, 361 Camboon road, Biloela.4715 Australia Ph 0749922449 Mb 0409159932 Hm 0749922574 Fx 0749922767 www.kerinvalecomaud io.com.au � ---Original Message- -- � From: i recycle computers Date: 12/02/2010 1:50:30 PM To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Just a Crazy Thought guess now a days you could use 900 MHz Spread Spectrum License Free Radios for the link between sites? - Original Message - From: Ian Wells kerin...@pacific. net.au To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 8:46 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Just a Crazy Thought On some bands a simplex repeater can be used .it records your voice and then replays it back on air from a high point .Repeaters on uhf CB are allowed but linking between them isn't aloud .On commercial frequencies linking of the repeaters is allowed as long as they are owned by the same owner. On 27mhz CB I have heard of repeaters but haven't come across one owner of 27mhz can have what is called a remote base which is a uhf CB or 27mhz radio on a hill and is controlled remotely by cable or via radio link from another site .On amateur they can do a lot more with their gear and they are starting to have 29mhz fm repeaters installed around the country. Another type of communication that has been turning up in the background is 27meg fm which as far as I know isn't allowed yet by acma. Thank You ,Ian Wells Kerinvale Comaudio, 361 Camboon road, Biloela.4715 Australia Ph 0749922449 Mb 0409159932 Hm 0749922574 Fx 0749922767 www.kerinvalecomaud io.com.au ---Original Message- -- From: STeve Andre' Date: 12/02/2010 1:45:28 PM To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Just a Crazy Thought On Thursday 11 February 2010 21:29:25 i recycle computers wrote: I have heard numorous urban legends of 27 MHz CB repeaters being built. has anyone ever come across such a thing. if not does anyone think it is even possible from a technical standpoint? the limitations are AM mode, and using any of the 40 CB channels with 4 watts PEP AM or 12 Watts PEP SSB ie: using completely un modified type certified CB gear. Legally a repeater is illegal on CB, but i just want to do an excersize in thought as to what problems someone may run into with such a project, etc. i have seen this questioned asked numorous times through the years and even heard rumors of it actually being done. no one though has actually went deep into the technical aspects of such a project or could point me out to the people who are operating or operated such a setup. Thanks, Rev. Robert P. Chrysafis Duplexers would be interesting to get. I can imagine the look on some sales reps face, when asked about pricing for an 11m unit. But you could certainly do a split site, in on channel 1 and out on channel 40 (or whatever actual frequency would be the farthest). Think of 10m repeaters and you've got most of the idea, though interference on 11m might be worse. Or has 11m usage dropped a lot because of cell phones? Me, I've never heard of one in operation. --Steve Andre' wb8wsf en82
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- Original Message - From: i recycle computers To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 6:29 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Just a Crazy Thought I have heard numerous urban legends of 27 MHz CB repeaters being built. has anyone ever come across such a thing. if not does anyone think it is even possible from a technical standpoint? the limitations are AM mode, and using any of the 40 CB channels with 4 watts PEP AM or 12 Watts PEP SIB i.e.: using completely un modified type certified CB gear. Legally a repeater is illegal on CB, but i just want to do an excursive in thought as to what problems someone may run into with such a project, etc. i have seen this questioned asked numerous times through the years and even heard rumors of it actually being done. no one though has actually went deep into the technical aspects of such a project or could point me out to the people who are operating or operated such a setup. Thanks, Rev. Robert P. Chrysalis I Recycle Computers Saving Unwanted PC's From The Landfill One Computer At A Time :) Listen To My Free Live Police Scanner Feed for Tuscaloosa / Northport http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?feedId=3836
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CAN you say LICENSE?? - M From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Barry Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 12:06 AM To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Just a Crazy Thought Of course it is possible 10 metres and 11 are very close together but why would anyone bother ? _ To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com From: he...@swbell.net Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 20:57:54 -0800 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Just a Crazy Thought Here is a link that has a video on youtube i have heard these before. So it is possible to implement. SD --- On Thu, 2/11/10, i recycle computers kc8...@hotmail.com wrote: From: i recycle computers kc8...@hotmail.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Just a Crazy Thought To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, February 11, 2010, 8:29 PM I have heard numorous urban legends of 27 MHz CB repeaters being built. has anyone ever come across such a thing. if not does anyone think it is even possible from a technical standpoint? the limitations are AM mode, and using any of the 40 CB channels with 4 watts PEP AM or 12 Watts PEP SSB ie: using completely un modified type certified CB gear. Legally a repeater is illegal on CB, but i just want to do an excersize in thought as to what problems someone may run into with such a project, etc. i have seen this questioned asked numorous times through the years and even heard rumors of it actually being done. no one though has actually went deep into the technical aspects of such a project or could point me out to the people who are operating or operated such a setup. Thanks, Rev. Robert P. Chrysafis I Recycle Computers Saving UnWanted PC's From The Landfill One Computer At A Time :) Listen To My Free Live Police Scanner Feed for Tuscaloosa / Northport http://www.radioref http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?feedId=3836 erence.com/ apps/audio/ ?feedId=3836 _ Find your next place with Ninemsn property Looking http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157631292/direct/01/ for a place to rent, share or buy? __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4859 (20100211) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com
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I was refering to the fact a 10 metre repeater will easily operate on 11 metres I suspect you misread the post and yes I have an open vk4 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com From: mryan...@tampabay.rr.com Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 01:14:11 -0500 Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Just a Crazy Thought CAN you say LICENSE?? - M From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Barry Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 12:06 AM To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Just a Crazy Thought Of course it is possible 10 metres and 11 are very close together but why would anyone bother ? To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com From: he...@swbell.net Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 20:57:54 -0800 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Just a Crazy Thought Here is a link that has a video on youtube i have heard these before. So it is possible to implement. SD --- On Thu, 2/11/10, i recycle computers kc8...@hotmail.com wrote: From: i recycle computers kc8...@hotmail.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Just a Crazy Thought To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, February 11, 2010, 8:29 PM I have heard numorous urban legends of 27 MHz CB repeaters being built. has anyone ever come across such a thing. if not does anyone think it is even possible from a technical standpoint? the limitations are AM mode, and using any of the 40 CB channels with 4 watts PEP AM or 12 Watts PEP SSB ie: using completely un modified type certified CB gear. Legally a repeater is illegal on CB, but i just want to do an excersize in thought as to what problems someone may run into with such a project, etc. i have seen this questioned asked numorous times through the years and even heard rumors of it actually being done. no one though has actually went deep into the technical aspects of such a project or could point me out to the people who are operating or operated such a setup. Thanks, Rev. Robert P. Chrysafis I Recycle Computers Saving UnWanted PC's From The Landfill One Computer At A Time :) Listen To My Free Live Police Scanner Feed for Tuscaloosa / Northport http://www.radioref erence.com/ apps/audio/ ?feedId=3836 Find your next place with Ninemsn property Looking for a place to rent, share or buy? __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4859 (20100211) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com _ View photos of singles in your area! Browse profiles for FREE http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/
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My coordinator says no pairs are officially available right now, but if I marry his sister, he'll see what he can do... Seriously, CB is more than 400 kHz wide, so splits wider than the 100 kHz used on 10m would be possible. If amplitude modulation is done cleanly, sidebands could be a little tighter. I think a split-site could be done fairly easily, especially at 4 watts output. Using any licensed service as the link would probably be inviting a knock on the door. VoIP might be the deal. 73, Paul, AE4KR - Original Message - From: i recycle computers To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 7:29 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Just a Crazy Thought I have heard numorous urban legends of 27 MHz CB repeaters being built. has anyone ever come across such a thing. if not does anyone think it is even possible from a technical standpoint? .
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I had to read the threads a few times Then I reminded Myself that sometimes We forget this is the WWW , World Wide Web and Rules and laws and Freqs are different . So of course the Answers will be too , Now that that is out of the Way of Course it could be done would be no different from a 10 Meter Repeater , Except not legal in the US Now back to our Regular Program Happy Repeater Building Don KA9QJG
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In any event, in the US a 10 meter repeater to be used on 11 meters would not be legal. It would not have been type accepted for that use, the last I checked FM mode was not 'viable' on 11 meters up here, and any machine would undoubtedly have more than the legal limit of 4 watts output as well. Of course where there's a will there's a way. I would not presume to know the rules 'down under' but I hope the idea does not catch on up here. Once the 10 mtr band opens up regularly ( if and when ) it will be a zoo of open access FM repeaters with many of them transmitting at the same time making the band impossible for anyone other than on simplex freqs. It's tradition.. Have fun down there. - Mike From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Barry Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 1:51 AM To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Just a Crazy Thought I was refering to the fact a 10 metre repeater will easily operate on 11 metres I suspect you misread the post and yes I have an open vk4 _ To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com From: mryan...@tampabay.rr.com Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 01:14:11 -0500 Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Just a Crazy Thought CAN you say LICENSE?? - M From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Barry Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 12:06 AM To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Just a Crazy Thought Of course it is possible 10 metres and 11 are very close together but why would anyone bother ? _ To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com From: he...@swbell.net Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 20:57:54 -0800 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Just a Crazy Thought Here is a link that has a video on youtube i have heard these before. So it is possible to implement. SD --- On Thu, 2/11/10, i recycle computers kc8...@hotmail.com wrote: From: i recycle computers kc8...@hotmail.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Just a Crazy Thought To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, February 11, 2010, 8:29 PM I have heard numorous urban legends of 27 MHz CB repeaters being built. has anyone ever come across such a thing. if not does anyone think it is even possible from a technical standpoint? the limitations are AM mode, and using any of the 40 CB channels with 4 watts PEP AM or 12 Watts PEP SSB ie: using completely un modified type certified CB gear. Legally a repeater is illegal on CB, but i just want to do an excersize in thought as to what problems someone may run into with such a project, etc. i have seen this questioned asked numorous times through the years and even heard rumors of it actually being done. no one though has actually went deep into the technical aspects of such a project or could point me out to the people who are operating or operated such a setup. Thanks, Rev. Robert P. Chrysafis I Recycle Computers Saving UnWanted PC's From The Landfill One Computer At A Time :) Listen To My Free Live Police Scanner Feed for Tuscaloosa / Northport http://www.radioref http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?feedId=3836 erence.com/ apps/audio/ ?feedId=3836 _ Find your next place with Ninemsn property Looking for a place to http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157631292/direct/01/ rent, share or buy? __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4859 (20100211) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com _ Browse profiles for free! View http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/ photos of singles in your area. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4859 (20100211) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com
